Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:56:11PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 On 04/04/2008, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just move all the $HOME stuff out of the way, and see what happens.  If
   you see that something important is gone, file movement is
   reversible :).
 
 Important stuff like .kde I knew not to touch, but the ones that I did
 not know about I asked here. Simply erasing things was not my only
 intention, I also wanted to learn more about the system, so I probably
 should have stated that.
 
 I still don't know what these are, if someone can enlighten me:
 
 ~/.mcop/

That's a kde thing. I think it has to do with interprocess
communication and control, where you can control running kde apps from
a command line. not sure though.

 ~/.wapi/ (from gooling this seems to be a Mac folder?!?)

looks like it might be a mono thing.

 ~/.crash_report_checksum
 ~/.crash_report_frames
 ~/.crash_report_preview

don't know *3

 ~/.dmrc (something to do with Compiz?)

has to do with desktop managers in general. Your *dm should create it
when you select a default session.


 ~/.esd_auth (it seems to be binary)

enlightened sound daemon. do you run esd? 


 ~/.ICEauthority

X Inter-Client-Exchange library authority file.

 ~/.msoprc

the only reference to msoprc I find points to this thread ;)

It's obviously the rc file for some program... 

I found most of these in just a few minutes of googling... But I
know that's often a matter of hitting just the right combinations.

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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-06 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 07/04/2008, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:56:11PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
   On 04/04/2008, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just move all the $HOME stuff out of the way, and see what happens.  If
 you see that something important is gone, file movement is
 reversible :).
  
   Important stuff like .kde I knew not to touch, but the ones that I did
   not know about I asked here. Simply erasing things was not my only
   intention, I also wanted to learn more about the system, so I probably
   should have stated that.
  
   I still don't know what these are, if someone can enlighten me:
  
   ~/.mcop/


 That's a kde thing. I think it has to do with interprocess
  communication and control, where you can control running kde apps from
  a command line. not sure though.


   ~/.wapi/ (from gooling this seems to be a Mac folder?!?)


 looks like it might be a mono thing.


   ~/.crash_report_checksum
   ~/.crash_report_frames
   ~/.crash_report_preview


 don't know *3


   ~/.dmrc (something to do with Compiz?)


 has to do with desktop managers in general. Your *dm should create it
  when you select a default session.



   ~/.esd_auth (it seems to be binary)


 enlightened sound daemon. do you run esd?


   ~/.ICEauthority

  X Inter-Client-Exchange library authority file.

   ~/.msoprc

  the only reference to msoprc I find points to this thread ;)

  It's obviously the rc file for some program...

  I found most of these in just a few minutes of googling... But I
  know that's often a matter of hitting just the right combinations.


Thanks. I assure you that I also did quite a bit of googling before
posting, that's why there were ~20 items and not ~80 items! But yes,
sometimes adding another keyword here or there makes all the
difference in the world. I've also learned to use google.com/linux?q=
instead of google.com/search?q= as the former filters out all
non-linux pages.

I will put up a page describing all the different files and folders
for the next archive digger.

Dotan Cohen

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-04 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:08:47 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:50:01AM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
  paragasu wrote:
  
   AFAIK,
   you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files.
   the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you
   can login
   just fine.
   
  
  One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to store all
  the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is just a
  bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise.
 
 Same goes for .sylpheed .sylpheed-claws and probably other mail clients.

My Sylpheed (currently 2.5.0beta1 on Sid, but I believe it's been like
this for a while) stores mail by default in ~/Mail, not
under ~/.sylpheed*, although there is some important stuff in the
latter location(s), most notably the addressbooks.

 Regards,
 Andrei

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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-04 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:34:26 +0200
Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 31/03/2008, paragasu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  AFAIK,
  you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files.
  the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you can
  login just fine.
 
 That's what I figured, but:
 
  be careful. ;)
 
 That's why I ask!

Just move all the $HOME stuff out of the way, and see what happens.  If
you see that something important is gone, file movement is
reversible :).

 Dotan Cohen

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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-04 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 04/04/2008, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just move all the $HOME stuff out of the way, and see what happens.  If
  you see that something important is gone, file movement is
  reversible :).

Important stuff like .kde I knew not to touch, but the ones that I did
not know about I asked here. Simply erasing things was not my only
intention, I also wanted to learn more about the system, so I probably
should have stated that.

I still don't know what these are, if someone can enlighten me:

~/.mcop/
~/.wapi/ (from gooling this seems to be a Mac folder?!?)
~/.crash_report_checksum
~/.crash_report_frames
~/.crash_report_preview
~/.dmrc (something to do with Compiz?)
~/.esd_auth (it seems to be binary)
~/.ICEauthority
~/.msoprc

Dotan Cohen

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-04 Thread Claudius Hubig
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:50:01AM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
 paragasu wrote:
 
  AFAIK,
  you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files.
  the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you
  can login
  just fine.
  
 
 One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to store all
 the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is just a
 bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise.

Same goes for .sylpheed .sylpheed-claws and probably other mail clients.

.claws-mail (what it is called in testing) actually only contains the
news messages and configuration files since it's possible to save
your real emails somewhere else.

Therefore, I wouldn't say that the same goes for Claws-Mail, too.

Greetings,

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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:37:25AM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:35:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 was heard to say:
  On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:45:16PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB)
   
... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P
   
   Can it be erased? I've no need to troubleshoot as I'm not experiencing
   any problems that I know about.
  
  Not a good idea to erase log files. Once you have checked that there are
  no important errors, you can : .xsession-errors (without the quotes)
  which will empty the file.
 
   AFAIK, xsession-errors will be truncated every time you restart your X
 session.

Then whoever has ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB) seems to have
a serious problem.

Also the : trick is probably a good habit to get into.

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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 00:23:16 +0300
Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Dotan,

 ~/.mozilla. I could imagine that there are those who use Firefox who
 might not know what mozilla is.

Even worse, Iceweasel stores its stuff in .mozilla/firefox.

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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:35:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
was heard to say:
 On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:45:16PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB)
  
   ... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P
  
  Can it be erased? I've no need to troubleshoot as I'm not experiencing
  any problems that I know about.
 
 Not a good idea to erase log files. Once you have checked that there are
 no important errors, you can : .xsession-errors (without the quotes)
 which will empty the file.

  AFAIK, xsession-errors will be truncated every time you restart your X
session.

  Daniel


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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-03-31 Thread Rich Healey
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Dotan Cohen wrote:
 I am cleaning our $HOME and I was wondering what these directories and
 files are:
 
 ~/.fullcircle/ (I know it is the mozilla feedback agent. I use Tbird
 and Firefox. Can I erase this anyway?)
 
 ~/.java/ (java is a system-wide app, no? Can I erase this? I use
 OpenOffice, which I know has a java dependency)
personal settings for java
 ~/.mcop/
 
 ~/.metacity/
 
 ~/.wapi/
 
 ~/.crash_report_checksum
 
 ~/.crash_report_frames
 
 ~/.crash_report_preview
 
 ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop__0
ll of these are the KDE process interaction server
 ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop_:0

 ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop__1

 ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop_:1

 ~/.dmrc
 
 ~/.esf_auth
 
 ~/.fishsrv.pl
The kde SMBFS frontend
 ~/.glivrc
 
 ~/.ICEauthority
 
 ~/.lpoptions
 
 ~/.msoprc
 
 ~/.odbc.ini
database settings
 ~/.rnd
random seed
 ~/.Xauthority
Settings for usermode creation of Xservers
 ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB)
... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P
 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Dotan Cohen
 
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 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


... you could probably just google themm..
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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-03-31 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Monday 31 March 2008 11:45, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 On 31/03/2008, Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB)
 
  ... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P

 Can it be erased? I've no need to troubleshoot as I'm not experiencing
 any problems that I know about.


Yes, kde is going to create a new one. But it may be worth to check what's in 
it before. And may be correct one or two problems.
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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-03-31 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 31/03/2008, Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   ~/.java/ (java is a system-wide app, no? Can I erase this? I use
   OpenOffice, which I know has a java dependency)

 personal settings for java

I do not remember ever setting personal settings for java, in fact, I
was unaware that any settings could be set.

   ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop__0

 ll of these are the KDE process interaction server

Thanks. I figured that they were KDE related because of the term DCOP
but I did not realize that there was need of an interactive server.


   ~/.fishsrv.pl

 The kde SMBFS frontend

Unusual, as I've never used samba

   ~/.odbc.ini

 database settings

I have no database. At least, no MySQL, Oracle, or other 'database'.
Maybe some programs use sqlite, but that shouldn't be related.

   ~/.rnd
  random seed

Thanks.

   ~/.Xauthority
  Settings for usermode creation of Xservers

Thanks.

  ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB)

 ... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P

Can it be erased? I've no need to troubleshoot as I'm not experiencing
any problems that I know about.

 ... you could probably just google themm..

Most of the files that aren't listed here I did google, but those that
had me confused I asked. I'm more of a lurker than a poster on this
list, and I know to STFW before consuming bandwidth. Thanks!

Dotan Cohen

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-03-31 Thread paragasu
AFAIK,
you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files.
the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you can
login
just fine.

be careful. ;)


Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-03-31 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 31/03/2008, paragasu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 AFAIK,
 you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files.
 the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you can
 login just fine.

That's what I figured, but:

 be careful. ;)

That's why I ask!

Dotan Cohen

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-03-31 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
paragasu wrote:

 AFAIK,
 you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files.
 the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you
 can login
 just fine.
 

One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to store all
the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is just a
bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise.

raju
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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:50:01AM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
 paragasu wrote:
 
  AFAIK,
  you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files.
  the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you
  can login
  just fine.
  
 
 One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to store all
 the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is just a
 bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise.

Same goes for .sylpheed .sylpheed-claws and probably other mail clients.

Regards,
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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-03-31 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 31/03/2008, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Same goes for .sylpheed .sylpheed-claws and probably other mail clients.

  Regards,
  Andrei

Although Thunderbird stores in ~/.thunderbird, Firefox stores in
~/.mozilla. I could imagine that there are those who use Firefox who
might not know what mozilla is.

Dotan Cohen

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


how to reset desktop env. config? (was: Re: What are these folders in home?)

2008-03-31 Thread H.S.

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

paragasu wrote:


AFAIK,
you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files.
the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you
can login
just fine.



One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to store all
the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is just a
bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise.

raju


I have encountered the soft reset situation many times: I wanted to 
start over with a particular desktop, KDE or Gnome. I usually do this:

1. log out from the window manager
2. kill all my files in /tmp
3. kill all relevant hidden directories in $HOME/ (e.g. .kde*, .gnome*, 
.gconf* and such).

4. Log in to the window manager. It starts configuration from scratch.

Now, I do not use Kmail, just Thunderbird and mutt. I know where they 
save their email. And now I learn that kmail saves its data in .kde. I 
hope a user using Kmail knows this. But then, the question is, what is 
the right way to start over using a desktop environment above? Is 
there a soft reset for window managers and desktop env.?


thanks,
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Re: how to reset desktop env. config? (was: Re: What are these folders in home?)

2008-03-31 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
H.S. wrote:
 But then, the question is, what is
 the right way to start over using a desktop environment above? Is
 there a soft reset for window managers and desktop env.?
 

AFAIK, such a soft reset does not exist for KDE 3.5.5 users. It would be
cool to have such a thing though.

I gave the kmail as an example. The situation is similar even if you are
using knode, korganizer etc., You loose the data along with configuration
files when the .kde/ is deleted.

hth
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Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-03-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:45:16PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
   ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB)
 
  ... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P
 
 Can it be erased? I've no need to troubleshoot as I'm not experiencing
 any problems that I know about.

Not a good idea to erase log files. Once you have checked that there are
no important errors, you can : .xsession-errors (without the quotes)
which will empty the file.

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