Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:44:50 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 06:54:41PM +, Camale�n wrote: (...) I must be more of a noob than I thought. Follow the points...what points? If you mean the debian.org and wiki URLs, they just point to the kernel.org site(s), dead end. I'm sure at the time Debian wiki article was written the kernel.org site has not been under attack, so... (here are the points) do you understand that kernel.org and related sites where down recently and by that reason you were pointing to a server that could not be reached or have not updated data? Of course. That's the message apt-get update gives. Yes :-) (and sorry if I sounded a bit rude on my last messages, I was aware of the current status for the kernel.org mirror because I tend to follow the news but it's normal that other people had no notice on this) If you are using squeeze, better change that URI.what one? Thn onenpointing to kernel.org mirror, of course. I assume the ftp.us.debian.org/debian mirror does this...no? I see no indication of this in the list. Thanks for the reply. Yes, squeeze-updates is handled by Debian official mirrors¹, so you can use that one. ¹http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.17.14.52...@gmail.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 02:52:59PM +, Camale�n wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:44:50 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 06:54:41PM +, Camale�n wrote: snip... Of course. That's the message apt-get update gives. Yes :-) (and sorry if I sounded a bit rude on my last messages, I was aware of the current status for the kernel.org mirror because I tend to follow the news but it's normal that other people had no notice on this) No problem. If you are using squeeze, better change that URI.what one? Thn onenpointing to kernel.org mirror, of course. I assume the ftp.us.debian.org/debian mirror does this...no? I see no indication of this in the list. Thanks for the reply. Yes, squeeze-updates is handled by Debian official mirrors¹, so you can use that one. ¹http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 Got it. Thanks again. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 06:54:41PM +, Camale�n wrote: On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:58:28 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 08:47:40PM +, Camale�n wrote: (...) E: Release file for http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/InRelease is expired (invalid since 34d 23h 23min 35s ) That's likely because the *.kernel.org servers have been down for over month... follow the points and you'll get the picture (→ if you are using squeeze, better change that URI). I must be more of a noob than I thought. Follow the points...what points? If you mean the debian.org and wiki URLs, they just point to the kernel.org site(s), dead end. I'm sure at the time Debian wiki article was written the kernel.org site has not been under attack, so... (here are the points) do you understand that kernel.org and related sites where down recently and by that reason you were pointing to a server that could not be reached or have not updated data? Of course. That's the message apt-get update gives. If you are using squeeze, better change that URI.what one? Thn onenpointing to kernel.org mirror, of course. I assume the ftp.us.debian.org/debian mirror does this...no? I see no indication of this in the list. Thanks for the reply. Running a search on squeeze repositories list yielded nothing useful. A complete list of Debian mirrors can be found here: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list.en.html -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:41:29PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Robert Holtzman wrote: I must be more of a noob than I thought. Follow the points...what points? If you mean the debian.org and wiki URLs, they just point to the kernel.org site(s), dead end. If you are using squeeze, better change that URI.what one? Running a search on squeeze repositories list yielded nothing useful. Since you are in the US you can use the US mirrors. For a complete list of mirrors see this reference: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list That's the one I was looking for. Don't know why the search didn't show it up. Maybe I went right by it and it didn't register. But to keep things simple let me propose these complete examples: For Squeeze: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze-updates main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze-updates main deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main That's pretty much what I've got with the addition of mirrors.kernel.org/debian which, of course is dead. Commenting this one out stops apt-get update from stalling. ..snip. The ftp.us.debian.org name is a list of round robin US mirrors. They are all sites that have full mirrors but all different independent sites. It has previously included kernel.org but not at this time while that site is down. With it down there is no way to get kernel updates unless the independent sites carry them, but where would they get them if not the kernel.org servers? Being a dynamic system the mirror admins keep that name updated with the current list of good working mirrors. If a mirror has problems it is quickly removed from the round robin list. Sometimes you might experience a transient glitch from a single mirror. Running 'update' again will round robin again and possibly get a different mirror (or possibly the same) and avoid the problem (or not). Try again if not. Usually transient problems are either cleared quickly or the name is dropped from the dns record in a few hours. And remember that Stable is stable but Sid is very unstable. For Testing Wheezy there is no -updates section at this time. The rationale being that Testing will get updates from Unstable very quickly and doesn't need a -updates similarly to not having needed volatile previously. You can see this from a practical perspective by browsing the repository, observing the available sections, but noting that squeeze-updates exists but wheezy-updates is not there. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/ Hope that helps! Sure does. Thanks. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Wayne Topa wrote, on 10/14/11 23:13: snip Oh? Let me try to make it a bit easier for you. 1. Install Apache2 and dwww packages. 2. Use dwww to bring up the Debian-Reference HTML Document. 3. For Packaging select Chapter 2. 4. In iceweasel key in Ctrl f 5. In the find box enter, for example, downgrade. 6. Click next for the next occurrence etc A fast way to search out terms using Linux Tools and Debian-Reference. Have a Great Day!! Wayne Or just install package debian-reference-en and there appears an entry Debian Reference in the Accessories section of the desktop menu (at least on Debian testing). Choosing this entry will start a web-browser opening the local reference html pages. The package also installes a text version of the reference /usr/share/doc/debian-reference-common/html/debian-reference.en.txt.gz. -- Best regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j7bh5d$7em$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 08:47:40PM +, Camale�n wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:54:52 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: [...] It was published in Release Notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats- new.en.html#stable-updates And also in the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates Except its no good for over a mnth. (From apt-get update: E: Release file for http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/InRelease is expired (invalid since 34d 23h 23min 35s ) That's likely because the *.kernel.org servers have been down for over month... follow the points and you'll get the picture (→ if you are using squeeze, better change that URI). I must be more of a noob than I thought. Follow the points...what points? If you mean the debian.org and wiki URLs, they just point to the kernel.org site(s), dead end. If you are using squeeze, better change that URI.what one? Running a search on squeeze repositories list yielded nothing useful. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Robert Holtzman wrote: I must be more of a noob than I thought. Follow the points...what points? If you mean the debian.org and wiki URLs, they just point to the kernel.org site(s), dead end. If you are using squeeze, better change that URI.what one? Running a search on squeeze repositories list yielded nothing useful. Since you are in the US you can use the US mirrors. For a complete list of mirrors see this reference: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list But to keep things simple let me propose these complete examples: For Squeeze: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze-updates main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze-updates main deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main For Wheezy currently Testing: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main Add contrib non-free to the main if you are inclined, you had them before. But since those are not officially part of Debian I did not include them in the above listings. You would need to opt-in for those yourself. The ftp.us.debian.org name is a list of round robin US mirrors. They are all sites that have full mirrors but all different independent sites. It has previously included kernel.org but not at this time while that site is down. Being a dynamic system the mirror admins keep that name updated with the current list of good working mirrors. If a mirror has problems it is quickly removed from the round robin list. Sometimes you might experience a transient glitch from a single mirror. Running 'update' again will round robin again and possibly get a different mirror (or possibly the same) and avoid the problem (or not). Try again if not. Usually transient problems are either cleared quickly or the name is dropped from the dns record in a few hours. And remember that Stable is stable but Sid is very unstable. For Testing Wheezy there is no -updates section at this time. The rationale being that Testing will get updates from Unstable very quickly and doesn't need a -updates similarly to not having needed volatile previously. You can see this from a practical perspective by browsing the repository, observing the available sections, but noting that squeeze-updates exists but wheezy-updates is not there. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/ Hope that helps! Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:58:28 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 08:47:40PM +, Camale�n wrote: (...) E: Release file for http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/InRelease is expired (invalid since 34d 23h 23min 35s ) That's likely because the *.kernel.org servers have been down for over month... follow the points and you'll get the picture (→ if you are using squeeze, better change that URI). I must be more of a noob than I thought. Follow the points...what points? If you mean the debian.org and wiki URLs, they just point to the kernel.org site(s), dead end. I'm sure at the time Debian wiki article was written the kernel.org site has not been under attack, so... (here are the points) do you understand that kernel.org and related sites where down recently and by that reason you were pointing to a server that could not be reached or have not updated data? If you are using squeeze, better change that URI.what one? The one pointing to kernel.org mirror, of course. Running a search on squeeze repositories list yielded nothing useful. A complete list of Debian mirrors can be found here: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list.en.html Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.15.18.54...@gmail.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Thu 13 Oct 2011 at 20:41:40 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm not making much sense of this apt-get output but it looks like it might be important: Sorry to include the whole output but there were errors shown in a few places. And also wondering what all the Hit/Ign Stuff is about. Hit: File found. No change in its timestamp. Ign: File ignored. No change in its content. [Snip] W: Failed to fetch http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/wheezy/volatile/non-free/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.227 80] Apt cannot find Wheezy on volatile. Why do you think volatile should have it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111014093730.GB3019@desktop
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: Harry Putnam wrote: First the sources.list: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free # deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free # deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main [...] Note: No volatile there. But you have volatile in the errors below. Recently added to apt is the ability to have additional files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory. Do you have additional files there? I think you must. And think that those files must have volatile listed in them. As I am sure you know volatile has changed names in Squeeze and is now wheezy-updates very confusingly similar to wheezy/updates. I am hoping you find the problem in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/something and will have your problem solved there. Your analyses was spot on. I think I even remember having put that there on the advice of some (no doubt, out of date) web page. I'm still getting the address wrong though. I looked up the announcement concerning volatile being closed down and even there did not really get the right syntax for sources.list Do you have the whole notation beginning with deb-[...]? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mxd3ki5o@newsguy.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: On Thu 13 Oct 2011 at 20:41:40 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm not making much sense of this apt-get output but it looks like it might be important: Sorry to include the whole output but there were errors shown in a few places. And also wondering what all the Hit/Ign Stuff is about. Hit: File found. No change in its timestamp. Ign: File ignored. No change in its content. [Snip] W: Failed to fetch http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/wheezy/volatile/non-free/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.227 80] Apt cannot find Wheezy on volatile. Why do you think volatile should have it? I actually had forgotten having put a file in source.list.d I got the idea off line, some now forgotten site apparently an outdated page since volatile no longer exists according to these: http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/2011/msg0.html http://www.debian.org/volatile/ I'm not sure I understand why they still have lists of mirrors and such on that very page. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipnrkhkc@newsguy.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Fri 14 Oct 2011 at 05:12:35 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: I actually had forgotten having put a file in source.list.d I got the idea off line, some now forgotten site apparently an outdated page since volatile no longer exists according to these: http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/2011/msg0.html http://www.debian.org/volatile/ I'm not sure I understand why they still have lists of mirrors and such on that very page. volatile still exists but only Lenny is on it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111014103135.GC3019@desktop
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Friday 14 October 2011 11:12:35 Harry Putnam wrote: I'm not sure I understand why they still have lists of mirrors and such on that very page. For the benefit of those of us still using volatile? Lenny uses volatile, and is going to be supported until early next year. You do need to check when looking up sources.list online which version it is intended for. I very much doubt that you found anywhere on line a recommendation to put volatile in a Wheezy sources.list. The best place to go for such things is the Debian.org site. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201110141213.50473.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 14 October 2011 11:12:35 Harry Putnam wrote: I'm not sure I understand why they still have lists of mirrors and such on that very page. For the benefit of those of us still using volatile? Lenny uses volatile, and is going to be supported until early next year. You do need to check when looking up sources.list online which version it is intended for. I very much doubt that you found anywhere on line a recommendation to put volatile in a Wheezy sources.list. You are right there... That was my own stroke of idiocy to edit in wheezy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y5wn6b6m@newsguy.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On 10/14/2011 07:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Lisilisi.re...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 14 October 2011 11:12:35 Harry Putnam wrote: I'm not sure I understand why they still have lists of mirrors and such on that very page. For the benefit of those of us still using volatile? Lenny uses volatile, and is going to be supported until early next year. You do need to check when looking up sources.list online which version it is intended for. I very much doubt that you found anywhere on line a recommendation to put volatile in a Wheezy sources.list. You are right there... That was my own stroke of idiocy to edit in wheezy. Harry Have you installed, and read, the debian-reference package yet. It can help you with some/most of your recent misunderstandings posts. HTH Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e984171.5090...@gmail.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com writes:
On 10/14/2011 07:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
Lisilisi.re...@gmail.com writes:
On Friday 14 October 2011 11:12:35 Harry Putnam wrote:
I'm not sure I understand why they still have lists of mirrors and such
on that very page.
For the benefit of those of us still using volatile? Lenny uses
volatile, and is going to be supported until early next year.
You do need to check when looking up sources.list online which
version it is intended for. I very much doubt that you found
anywhere on line a recommendation to put volatile in a Wheezy
sources.list.
You are right there... That was my own stroke of idiocy to edit in
wheezy.
Harry
Have you installed, and read, the debian-reference package yet. It
can help you with some/most of your recent misunderstandings posts.
Installed yes. Read no (only partially) ... as must be painfully
obvious.
But man that is an awful lot to pound through without experimenting
and asking questions.
Finding answers in that tomb can be a real time sink. Thinking up the
appropriate search strings is always a crap shoot at best.
For example, taking something I haven't yet posted about, but want to
know.
How to backup to an older version of Xorg.
The most likely thing I found so far in the reference manual is this:
match with pending action
~a{install,upgrade,downgrade,remove,purge,hold,keep}
And that took some reading and time.
So it is at least apparently possible to downgrade a package... but no
idea at all of actual syntax, further... not finding how I might
downgrade to a specific version.
It led me to believe that `downgrade' might be something aptitude
might know about. So now switching from 100s of lines of the debian
manual, to many many lines of `man aptitude'. But oops no `downgrade'
Well maybe in `man apt-get' switch to 100s of lines of `man
apt-get'... and yes... I hit pay dirt there.
So now I'm 40 or so minutes into it. And discover its something
almost totally obvious... but I didn't think of it.
But even then since I want to downgrade the Xorg server, now I have to
figure out what it is I apply the `aptitude install pkg=pkgversion'
too. So I'm still not home free and easing right up on 60 minutes of
pounding.
Could have probably gotten several direct answers with good info for
4, 5 separate questions in that amount of time, on this list.
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Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:59:47 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: (...) [...] Note: No volatile there. But you have volatile in the errors below. Recently added to apt is the ability to have additional files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory. Do you have additional files there? I think you must. And think that those files must have volatile listed in them. As I am sure you know volatile has changed names in Squeeze and is now wheezy-updates very confusingly similar to wheezy/updates. I am hoping you find the problem in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/something and will have your problem solved there. Your analyses was spot on. I think I even remember having put that there on the advice of some (no doubt, out of date) web page. I'm still getting the address wrong though. I looked up the announcement concerning volatile being closed down and even there did not really get the right syntax for sources.list Do you have the whole notation beginning with deb-[...]? It was published in Release Notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#stable-updates And also in the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates But that's for the stable branch, not sure if testing is a valid target for stable-updates. It does not make much sense to me, being testing a quasi-permanent moving target. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.14.14.49...@gmail.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On 10/14/2011 10:46 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
Wayne Topalinux...@gmail.com writes:
On 10/14/2011 07:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
Lisilisi.re...@gmail.com writes:
On Friday 14 October 2011 11:12:35 Harry Putnam wrote:
I'm not sure I understand why they still have lists of mirrors and such
on that very page.
For the benefit of those of us still using volatile? Lenny uses
volatile, and is going to be supported until early next year.
You do need to check when looking up sources.list online which
version it is intended for. I very much doubt that you found
anywhere on line a recommendation to put volatile in a Wheezy
sources.list.
You are right there... That was my own stroke of idiocy to edit in
wheezy.
Harry
Have you installed, and read, the debian-reference package yet. It
can help you with some/most of your recent misunderstandings posts.
Installed yes. Read no (only partially) ... as must be painfully
obvious.
But man that is an awful lot to pound through without experimenting
and asking questions.
Finding answers in that tomb can be a real time sink. Thinking up the
appropriate search strings is always a crap shoot at best.
For example, taking something I haven't yet posted about, but want to
know.
How to backup to an older version of Xorg.
Using the ncurses aptitude search (/) for the one you want to save and
put it on hold. Or move the package file to a backup folder of your
choosing.
The most likely thing I found so far in the reference manual is this:
match with pending action
~a{install,upgrade,downgrade,remove,purge,hold,keep}
And that took some reading and time.
Was the time spent reading that section, worth it? That's what most of
us had to do when aptitude was introduced a few years back. When I
started the tool was deselect and that you really HAD to read the man
page more then once. The ncurses aptitude is sooo much better.
So it is at least apparently possible to downgrade a package... but no
idea at all of actual syntax, further... not finding how I might
downgrade to a specific version.
It depends on if the version is in you archives or not.
if yes you can use dpkg -i /path-to-package/whole package name.deb,
which will install the package but not the dependices or
if not aptitude install packagename={version you want} and it will
install the package AND it's dependices.
It led me to believe that `downgrade' might be something aptitude
might know about. So now switching from 100s of lines of the debian
manual, to many many lines of `man aptitude'. But oops no `downgrade'
Well maybe in `man apt-get' switch to 100s of lines of `man
apt-get'... and yes... I hit pay dirt there.
Depending on how you did the initial installation, it may be for some,
a good Idea to try upgrading/downgrading and screwing up the system.
They can then reinstall and hopefully learn from their mistakes.
I don't upgrade/downgrade willy/nilly so I don't run into those
problems. I have a Stable, Testing, Wheezy and a Sid Partitions.
I run update/safe-upgrades one or twice a week on the Testing and Wheezy
partitions. Why do I do them both, well wheezy was upgraded from a
Squeeze net install and Testing from a Testing snapshot disk. Testing
doesn't have all the problems Wheezy has so I am (trying) to figure out
how/why they are different. Both of them also use some packages from Sid.
So now I'm 40 or so minutes into it. And discover its something
almost totally obvious... but I didn't think of it.
But even then since I want to downgrade the Xorg server, now I have to
figure out what it is I apply the `aptitude install pkg=pkgversion'
too. So I'm still not home free and easing right up on 60 minutes of
pounding.
Could have probably gotten several direct answers with good info for
4, 5 separate questions in that amount of time, on this list.
I'm sorry that the debian-reference is such a hard read for you but I
use it
so much to refresh my failing memory that I felt I should remind you about.
Give a man to fish, feed him for a day
Teach a man to fish, feed him for life
I used to teach Electronics/Programming many many moons ago.
HTH
Wayne
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Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: [...] It was published in Release Notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#stable-updates And also in the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates Except its no good for over a mnth. (From apt-get update: E: Release file for http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/InRelease is expired (invalid since 34d 23h 23min 35s ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vcrr4acz@newsguy.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com writes: [...] Give a man to fish, feed him for a day Teach a man to fish, feed him for life I used to teach Electronics/Programming many many moons ago. So in your case it was: Give a man a shock and stun him for life. ;) (Sorry couldn't resist..) Thanks for the helpful input. I guess I'm disgustingly lazy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r52f4a45@newsguy.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:54:52 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: [...] It was published in Release Notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats- new.en.html#stable-updates And also in the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates Except its no good for over a mnth. (From apt-get update: E: Release file for http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/InRelease is expired (invalid since 34d 23h 23min 35s ) That's likely because the *.kernel.org servers have been down for over month... follow the points and you'll get the picture (→ if you are using squeeze, better change that URI). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.14.20.47...@gmail.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
On 10/14/2011 04:00 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Wayne Topalinux...@gmail.com writes: [...] Give a man to fish, feed him for a day Teach a man to fish, feed him for life I used to teach Electronics/Programming many many moons ago. So in your case it was: Give a man a shock and stun him for life. ;) (Sorry couldn't resist..) Thanks for the helpful input. I guess I'm disgustingly lazy. Oh? Let me try to make it a bit easier for you. 1. Install Apache2 and dwww packages. 2. Use dwww to bring up the Debian-Reference HTML Document. 3. For Packaging select Chapter 2. 4. In iceweasel key in Ctrl f 5. In the find box enter, for example, downgrade. 6. Click next for the next occurrence etc A fast way to search out terms using Linux Tools and Debian-Reference. Have a Great Day!! Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e98a5f6.7000...@gmail.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for the helpful input. I guess I'm disgustingly lazy. Oh? Let me try to make it a bit easier for you. 1. Install Apache2 and dwww packages. 2. Use dwww to bring up the Debian-Reference HTML Document. 3. For Packaging select Chapter 2. 4. In iceweasel key in Ctrl f 5. In the find box enter, for example, downgrade. 6. Click next for the next occurrence etc No, wait I really meant that about thanking for the helpful input. But shut my lazy mouth if you didn't just nearly breath for me. But of course only outlined the exact method I used to locate the information. Only for me its Ctrl s because I use the nifty add-on firemacs. Allows me to edit stuff, and do search etc using emacs keybindings. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjmv2rl5@newsguy.com
Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.
Harry Putnam wrote: First the sources.list: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free # deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free # deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main Note: No volatile there. But you have volatile in the errors below. Err http://volatile.debian.org wheezy/volatile/non-free i386 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.227 80] W: Failed to fetch http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/wheezy/volatile/non-free/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.227 80] Recently added to apt is the ability to have additional files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory. Do you have additional files there? I think you must. And think that those files must have volatile listed in them. As I am sure you know volatile has changed names in Squeeze and is now wheezy-updates very confusingly similar to wheezy/updates. I am hoping you find the problem in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/something and will have your problem solved there. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
