Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Friday 23 January 2015 07:39:44 Darac Marjal did opine And Gene did reply: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:29:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Then what are the mousemask(), KEY_MOUSE and get_mouse() etc. all about? [cut] Wouldn't have the foggiest as the installer has never demonstrated to me that it knows about mice. You can tab cycle thru the options, and hit enter to do them. Not a huge fan of the 4 color ncurses screen obviously. That is what I got when I chose the graphical expert mode. Was I supposed to get something better? Thanks Darac. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501230748.47368.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 18:42:59 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 12:48:47 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 07:39:44 Darac Marjal did opine And Gene did reply: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:29:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Then what are the mousemask(), KEY_MOUSE and get_mouse() etc. all about? [cut] Wouldn't have the foggiest as the installer has never demonstrated to me that it knows about mice. You can tab cycle thru the options, and hit enter to do them. Not a huge fan of the 4 color ncurses screen obviously. That is what I got when I chose the graphical expert mode. Was I supposed to get something better? You chose the *graphical* mode? Sorry, that never even ocurred to me! It should have. My bad. No wonder I couldn't make head or tail of what you were saying! He says he chose the graphical GTK mode mode. What he describes is the non-graphical mode. Either he hit the wrong key or he has found a bug, Repeating and describing the steps he took would be good. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/23012015185739.5ebbb2b05...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Friday 23 January 2015 12:48:47 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 07:39:44 Darac Marjal did opine And Gene did reply: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:29:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Then what are the mousemask(), KEY_MOUSE and get_mouse() etc. all about? [cut] Wouldn't have the foggiest as the installer has never demonstrated to me that it knows about mice. You can tab cycle thru the options, and hit enter to do them. Not a huge fan of the 4 color ncurses screen obviously. That is what I got when I chose the graphical expert mode. Was I supposed to get something better? You chose the *graphical* mode? Sorry, that never even ocurred to me! It should have. My bad. No wonder I couldn't make head or tail of what you were saying! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501231842.59064.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Nor can you skip the partitioner and go straight to the format install pages. I swear can hear it chuckling as it bounces me back to do it wrong partitioner. Of course you can. If you're still having trouble, actual logs and/or screenshots would be useful. First, the survival of the log depends on the success of the install, no install=no logs even if I knew where they were kept. An option to save the logs on a DIFFERENT drive would be most helpful. And AFAIK, image attachments are not allowed by the server, so what good would it do me to take some pix and try to post them? That's what pastebins are for. Run a search if you have a useable computer. If not, you're hosed. ...snip... I am hosed. And downloading an arch based install as we speak. :) Thanks Bob. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150129.07019.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:29:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Then what are the mousemask(), KEY_MOUSE and get_mouse() etc. all about? [cut] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wheezy is installed
On 21/01/15 08:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2015 15:48:49 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: On 20/01/15 07:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. It should normally start up automatically - it's just possible that kdm didn't get installed? apt-get install kdm should fix it :) 2nd question: Since I am used to 10 workspaces, where is the workspace creator? Type workspace into the search Virtual Desktop should come up 3rd question, that speech synth is driving me nuts, so how do I shut that thing off? Speech synthesiser might be kmouth, I don't know because I haven't got it running. apt-get remove kmouth ? There is no doubt more, but I'm back on Lucid ATM. Hope this helps, all the best, AndyC Thanks for the reply AndyC, but it self-destructed when I tried to fix the alignment, so bad that blkid cannot find it. I am going to have to find some more patience before I tackle this again. probably not with wheezy. Cheers, Gene Heskett It doesn't take patience. It just takes using the installer correctly. You seem to be having immense difficulty with the user interface, which I found to quite easy to manage but people do have various notions of what is the best way to do things. Please note that a graphical desktop is NOT installed by default. You have to select it in the task selector. That is another sore point. I distinctly told it I wanted kde on the first attempt. I got gnome... One screen, no switchable workspaces. This is NOT windows folks, let it do what we tell it to do! The next install attempt never gave me a choice. Thats a gnome or hit the road jack IMO. There has not been a third attempt until such time as I can be assured it will just do what I want it to do. Or I get over this funkity mood I am in from the first 2 failures. Cheers, Gene Heskett Every Linux desktop has multiple workspaces (virtual screens). The difficulties you report having seem to be the result of your failure to read the options at each stage of the install. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c17341.2010...@torfree.net
Re: Butt in - Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015, Charlie wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:29:42 -0800 Don Armstrong sent: You can do it *exactly* the way I just posted pictures. I shouldn't butt in but, hey you clever man how did you take those shots.? Oh no. with a camera? With import foo.png; the installer was running in a virtual machine started with virt-installer. Otherwise, use a serial console, or a camera if you have to. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com Three little words. (In order of importance.) █ █ ▌ ▞▀▖▌ ▌▛▀▘ █ ▌ ▌ ▌▝▞ ▛▀ you █ ▀▀▘▝▀ ▘ ▀▀▘ █ -- hugh macleod Three Words -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123005734.gf21...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
Re: Butt in - Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:57:34 -0800 Don Armstrong sent: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015, Charlie wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:29:42 -0800 Don Armstrong sent: You can do it *exactly* the way I just posted pictures. I shouldn't butt in but, hey you clever man how did you take those shots.? Oh no. with a camera? With import foo.png; the installer was running in a virtual machine started with virt-installer. Otherwise, use a serial console, or a camera if you have to. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com Three little words. (In order of importance.) █ █ ▌ ▞▀▖▌ ▌▛▀▘ █ ▌ ▌ ▌▝▞ ▛▀ you █ ▀▀▘▝▀ ▘ ▀▀▘ █ -- hugh macleod Three Words Thank you, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** Our truest life is when we are in our dreams awake. .Henry David Thoreau *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123120732.50357c16@taogypsy
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. Nor can you skip the partitioner and go straight to the format install pages. I swear can hear it chuckling as it bounces me back to do it wrong partitioner. Of course you can. If you're still having trouble, actual logs and/or screenshots would be useful. First, the survival of the log depends on the success of the install, no install=no logs even if I knew where they were kept. An option to save the logs on a DIFFERENT drive would be most helpful. And AFAIK, image attachments are not allowed by the server, so what good would it do me to take some pix and try to post them? That's what pastebins are for. Run a search if you have a useable computer. If not, you're hosed. ...snip... -- Bob Holtzman Giant intergalactic brain-sucking hyperbacteria came to Earth to rape our women and create a race of mindless zombies. Look! It's working! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150122195043.ga11...@cox.net
Re: Wheezy is installed
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 06:53:33 Darac Marjal did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. If you want KDM, you need to dpkg-reconfigure kdm to make sure it's the preferred desktop-manager (you can only have one active at a time, even if others are uninstalled), then you need to stop the previous desktop-manager (service somedm stop) and start kdm (service kdm start). Be aware that stopping the old desktop-manager will kill your X session. If you just want to be able to login to KDE, most desktop managers can do that (that is, you don't NEED KDM for KDE; you may prefer it, though. YMMV). Once you have entered your username, before you enter your password, look for a session selection widget. In some DMs it'll be obvious, in some, you need to click your username or perhaps a cog or head icon. Once you've found it, select KDE as your desktop and THEN enter your password. Your selection *should* be remembered. 2nd question: Since I am used to 10 workspaces, where is the workspace creator? 3rd question, that speech synth is driving me nuts, so how do I shut that thing off? There is no doubt more, but I'm back on Lucid ATM. Thanks folks. Cheers, Gene Heskett It self-destructed when I tried to fix the miss-aligned partitions the you cannot bypass it partitioner created out of whole cloth. That was the 2nd wheezy install that blew up. Expert mode or not, there simply is no way to make it use the existing, correctly aligned disk. If there is a way, please advise. So I am back on Lucid LTS TFN. But its running out of support time. Thanks Darac. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501210729.26365.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Wheezy is installed
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: It self-destructed when I tried to fix the miss-aligned partitions the you cannot bypass it partitioner created out of whole cloth. Changing the partition layout underneath the installer is never going to work, unless you also move and resize the partitions or recreate them entirely. If there is a way, please advise. Instead of creating new paritions in the partitioner, you choose manual configuration, use the existing partitions, give the existing partitions mount points and mark them to be used, and if you've already formatted them, don't format them anew. If you're still having trouble, actual logs and/or screenshots would be useful. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com Junkies were all knitted together in a loose global macrame, the intercontinental freemasonry of narcotics. -- Bruce Sterling, _Holy Fire_ p257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150121182256.gz21...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 13:22:56 Don Armstrong did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: It self-destructed when I tried to fix the miss-aligned partitions the you cannot bypass it partitioner created out of whole cloth. Changing the partition layout underneath the installer is never going to work, unless you also move and resize the partitions or recreate them entirely. I didn't expect it to. If there is a way, please advise. Instead of creating new paritions in the partitioner, you choose manual configuration, use the existing partitions, give the existing partitions mount points and mark them to be used, and if you've already formatted them, don't format them anew. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. Nor can you skip the partitioner and go straight to the format install pages. I swear can hear it chuckling as it bounces me back to do it wrong partitioner. If you're still having trouble, actual logs and/or screenshots would be useful. First, the survival of the log depends on the success of the install, no install=no logs even if I knew where they were kept. An option to save the logs on a DIFFERENT drive would be most helpful. And AFAIK, image attachments are not allowed by the server, so what good would it do me to take some pix and try to post them? Here is an example of a slow disk, its the disk I use for amanda's virtual tapes. Disk /dev/sdd: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0005b800 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1 1 61022 490159183+ 83 Linux Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. /dev/sdd2 61023 121601 486600817+ 83 Linux Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary. So that disk, able to write if aligned at 110 to 120 Mb/sec, stumbles along at 50Mb/sec, slowing up the backup by 30+ minutes. That disk was partitioned by fdisk several years ago. It (fdisk) has since gotten smarter in that while it won't stop you from shooting yourself anyplace you choose, is at least smart enough to tell you you screwed up after the fact. But the smarts to stop it, have not made it into fdisk yet, at least not in the versions I can DL and install on a 10.04.4 LTS ubuntu. So I'm going to go out and carve some more mahogany, at least I can see progress there, and if I make a mistake, I can generally fix it, where everyone here is convinced the partitioner in the installer is just fine. Yes, it can install, but it cripples the disk its installed on if its a 4k/sector disk. I fail to see what is so difficult to understand here. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501211505.23240.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Wheezy is installed
On 20/01/15 07:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. It should normally start up automatically - it's just possible that kdm didn't get installed? apt-get install kdm should fix it :) 2nd question: Since I am used to 10 workspaces, where is the workspace creator? Type workspace into the search Virtual Desktop should come up 3rd question, that speech synth is driving me nuts, so how do I shut that thing off? Speech synthesiser might be kmouth, I don't know because I haven't got it running. apt-get remove kmouth ? There is no doubt more, but I'm back on Lucid ATM. Hope this helps, all the best, AndyC Thanks for the reply AndyC, but it self-destructed when I tried to fix the alignment, so bad that blkid cannot find it. I am going to have to find some more patience before I tackle this again. probably not with wheezy. Cheers, Gene Heskett It doesn't take patience. It just takes using the installer correctly. You seem to be having immense difficulty with the user interface, which I found to quite easy to manage but people do have various notions of what is the best way to do things. Please note that a graphical desktop is NOT installed by default. You have to select it in the task selector. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c010b1.7020...@torfree.net
Re: Wheezy is installed
Gary Dale wrote: Please note that a graphical desktop is NOT installed by default. You have to select it in the task selector. The Wheezy default desktop is GNOME. Gene is asking about KDE. If he didn't select the alternative desktop environment then KDE won't have been installed but will have GNOME by default. The alternative desktop selection is odd that it must happen up front. I wish it were part of tasksel instead. Someone may need to walk Gene through installing KDE. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 20:05:23 Gene Heskett wrote: Yes, it can install, Yes, it can. but it cripples the disk its installed on if its a 4k/sector disk. No it doesn't. I fail to see what is so difficult to understand here. It is you who refuses to understand. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501212324.33854.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. First, you partition the drive using fdisk or whatever you want: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/partitioner_works/partioner_00.png Then you reenter the paritioner, select the drive: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/partitioner_works/partioner_01.png Then you tell it that you don't want to do not use http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/partitioner_works/partioner_02.png but you want to use it as ext4 (or whatever): http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/partitioner_works/partioner_03.png http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/partitioner_works/partioner_04.png etc. Then set a mount point: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/partitioner_works/partioner_05.png Then write changes to disk: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/partitioner_works/partioner_06.png Then it'll format and install the base system: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/partitioner_works/partioner_08.png and then you're done. And AFAIK, image attachments are not allowed by the server, so what good would it do me to take some pix and try to post them? You can do it *exactly* the way I just posted pictures. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com She decided what she wished to happen and then assumed that reality would bend to her wishes. [...] Reality doesn't indulge wishes. -- Terry Goodkind _Phantom_ p133 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150121222942.gk1...@rzlab.ucr.edu
Re: Wheezy is installed
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:48:57 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 23:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. It should normally start up automatically - it's just possible that kdm didn't get installed? Gene seems to be complaining that he hasn't been offered a choice of dm. if kdm is the only dm installed he wouldn't be offered a choice, surely? Or have I misunderstood? Lisi When it worked, it was 100% gnome gdm I assume, which it is not now until I can figure out a way to bypass the broken partitioner. And I am not going to waste another 8-10 hours trying until someone tells me how to bypass it, and just format whats already setup. That speech thingy that reads everything on screen must be a gnomeish thing too, but that, while novel, only takes about 10 minutes to wear out its welcome. I purposely bypassed that on this install, and got it anyway. Thanks Lisi. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501201951.13170.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Wheezy is installed
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 15:48:49 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: On 20/01/15 07:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. It should normally start up automatically - it's just possible that kdm didn't get installed? apt-get install kdm should fix it :) 2nd question: Since I am used to 10 workspaces, where is the workspace creator? Type workspace into the search Virtual Desktop should come up 3rd question, that speech synth is driving me nuts, so how do I shut that thing off? Speech synthesiser might be kmouth, I don't know because I haven't got it running. apt-get remove kmouth ? There is no doubt more, but I'm back on Lucid ATM. Hope this helps, all the best, AndyC Thanks for the reply AndyC, but it self-destructed when I tried to fix the alignment, so bad that blkid cannot find it. I am going to have to find some more patience before I tackle this again. probably not with wheezy. Cheers, Gene Heskett It doesn't take patience. It just takes using the installer correctly. You seem to be having immense difficulty with the user interface, which I found to quite easy to manage but people do have various notions of what is the best way to do things. Please note that a graphical desktop is NOT installed by default. You have to select it in the task selector. That is another sore point. I distinctly told it I wanted kde on the first attempt. I got gnome... One screen, no switchable workspaces. This is NOT windows folks, let it do what we tell it to do! The next install attempt never gave me a choice. Thats a gnome or hit the road jack IMO. There has not been a third attempt until such time as I can be assured it will just do what I want it to do. Or I get over this funkity mood I am in from the first 2 failures. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501212027.09980.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Wheezy is installed
On 20/01/15 07:51 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:48:57 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 23:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. It should normally start up automatically - it's just possible that kdm didn't get installed? Gene seems to be complaining that he hasn't been offered a choice of dm. if kdm is the only dm installed he wouldn't be offered a choice, surely? Or have I misunderstood? Lisi When it worked, it was 100% gnome gdm I assume, which it is not now until I can figure out a way to bypass the broken partitioner. And I am not going to waste another 8-10 hours trying until someone tells me how to bypass it, and just format whats already setup. That speech thingy that reads everything on screen must be a gnomeish thing too, but that, while novel, only takes about 10 minutes to wear out its welcome. I purposely bypassed that on this install, and got it anyway. Thanks Lisi. Cheers, Gene Heskett Again, nothing is broken on the Debian side. Nor does an install 8-10 hours. Depending on the speed of your computer and Internet, 30 minutes to an hour usually does it. And most of that time you can be doing something else. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c08b42.4060...@torfree.net
Butt in - Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
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Re: Wheezy is installed - suggestions for how to partition. potentially
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 07:46:11PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. Thanks for the reply AndyC, but it self-destructed when I tried to fix the alignment, so bad that blkid cannot find it. I am going to have to find some more patience before I tackle this again. probably not with wheezy. Hi Gene, As you've found, there's various ways to install. An earlier message gave slightly the wrong impression - if I may, I'll correct myself before I carry on. There's an automated install - asks very few questions, installs GNOME as the desktop - pretty much requires a wired connection because there's no guarantee that wireless is supported out of the box so wired is safer to try. Preseeded so that as much as possible auto-configures without user input - so will default to DHCP, for example. The expert install allows you to single step through the install yourself: the crucial differnce is that it asks all the questions rather than skipping through some and allows you more fine-grained control. EITHER Set a 2M partition at the beginning of the disk as an empty partition: start your first partition after that. OR install parted udeb, make the partitions yourself and write them. Restart the install and the partitions you have made will be there. All the best, AndyC Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501201946.11146.ghesk...@wdtv.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150121213446.ga1...@galactic.demon.co.uk
Re: Wheezy is installed
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. If you want KDM, you need to dpkg-reconfigure kdm to make sure it's the preferred desktop-manager (you can only have one active at a time, even if others are uninstalled), then you need to stop the previous desktop-manager (service somedm stop) and start kdm (service kdm start). Be aware that stopping the old desktop-manager will kill your X session. If you just want to be able to login to KDE, most desktop managers can do that (that is, you don't NEED KDM for KDE; you may prefer it, though. YMMV). Once you have entered your username, before you enter your password, look for a session selection widget. In some DMs it'll be obvious, in some, you need to click your username or perhaps a cog or head icon. Once you've found it, select KDE as your desktop and THEN enter your password. Your selection *should* be remembered. 2nd question: Since I am used to 10 workspaces, where is the workspace creator? 3rd question, that speech synth is driving me nuts, so how do I shut that thing off? There is no doubt more, but I'm back on Lucid ATM. Thanks folks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501201817.06558.ghesk...@wdtv.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wheezy is installed
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. It should normally start up automatically - it's just possible that kdm didn't get installed? apt-get install kdm should fix it :) 2nd question: Since I am used to 10 workspaces, where is the workspace creator? Type workspace into the search Virtual Desktop should come up 3rd question, that speech synth is driving me nuts, so how do I shut that thing off? Speech synthesiser might be kmouth, I don't know because I haven't got it running. apt-get remove kmouth ? There is no doubt more, but I'm back on Lucid ATM. Hope this helps, all the best, AndyC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150120234420.ga2...@galactic.demon.co.uk
Re: Wheezy is installed
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. It should normally start up automatically - it's just possible that kdm didn't get installed? apt-get install kdm should fix it :) 2nd question: Since I am used to 10 workspaces, where is the workspace creator? Type workspace into the search Virtual Desktop should come up 3rd question, that speech synth is driving me nuts, so how do I shut that thing off? Speech synthesiser might be kmouth, I don't know because I haven't got it running. apt-get remove kmouth ? There is no doubt more, but I'm back on Lucid ATM. Hope this helps, all the best, AndyC Thanks for the reply AndyC, but it self-destructed when I tried to fix the alignment, so bad that blkid cannot find it. I am going to have to find some more patience before I tackle this again. probably not with wheezy. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501201946.11146.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Wheezy is installed
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 23:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts back in without being presented with a choice. It should normally start up automatically - it's just possible that kdm didn't get installed? Gene seems to be complaining that he hasn't been offered a choice of dm. if kdm is the only dm installed he wouldn't be offered a choice, surely? Or have I misunderstood? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501202348.57023.lisi.re...@gmail.com
