Re: Win95 as a terminal

1998-03-25 Thread Bill Leach
The short answer is 'yes'.

One way would be to set up a ppp link on both the windoz box and the
linux box (easy on Linux, don't know about windoz).

Basically though, I would guess that if you can tell the Windoz dialer
to make a connection without it issuing modem command then it should
also be easy to do.

I suggest that you do some reading.  Take a look at the HOWTOs for
serial, ppp, and especially NET3.

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Re: Win95 as a terminal

1998-03-25 Thread Joost Kooij
On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Linux admin at alv wrote:

 Is there a better solution for using my Linux resources from Win 95 computer?
 Notice: no network card. Only null modem.

It's not proven, but I think that there's two ways to do this:  

- the hard way: make sure that the modems either have init strings passed
to them that put them in fixed link  (maybe there's a better name for
it?) mode or have it programmed in their cmos (if available.) Next, hack a
windows modem driver and cut out all the modem talk/response strings.
There's a driver somewhere on the net that has just that. 
AFAIK that is the only way to have a true (compatible :-) ) nullmodem
connection in windows. Linux doesn't care, it's even easier as you don't
have to write a chat script at all to massage the link before attemting to
start ppp on it.

- the easy way, which is also a nice hack: write a chatscript that doesn't
talk _to_ a modem, but instead talks _like_ a modem. Unset the timeout
while it waits for windows to start dialling. I'm not sure if it is
enough, but I think that basically echoing OK to everything windows says
is enough. Finally, echo CONNECT and start pppd.
You must wire the RTS and CTS lines correctly, so you'll be able to do
hardware handshaking (faster transfer than xon/xoff.) Also make sure that
the serial ports on both sides get the DCD signal, or else both computers
may think that the line is dropped. 

 Can I, for instance, use my dial-up internet connection thru Linux computer on
 Win 95?

Yes, just set windows to use the linux host as the gateway and configure
linux to route all packets. Maybe you want to setup ip-aliasing and
firewalling too, unless you have real ip numbers. 

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: Win95 as a terminal

1998-03-25 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Win95 supports a Direct Cable Connection as an Adapter when you go to network
properties. That said, I tried arduously to get this thing to work between two
Win95 laptops without success. I suspect that with the right configuration this
would work.

Bill Leach wrote:

 The short answer is 'yes'.

 One way would be to set up a ppp link on both the windoz box and the
 linux box (easy on Linux, don't know about windoz).

 Basically though, I would guess that if you can tell the Windoz dialer
 to make a connection without it issuing modem command then it should
 also be easy to do.

 I suggest that you do some reading.  Take a look at the HOWTOs for
 serial, ppp, and especially NET3.

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Re: Win95 as a terminal

1998-03-25 Thread Kevin Traas
You can also configure HyperTerminal to use the Direct to COMx devices.
This would make your Win95 a TTY device on the Linux box

If you're going this route, though, download HyperTerminal Private Edition
3.0 (from Hilgraeve?, tucows, etc.) and use that instead of the stock HT
that came with Win95.  ***Much*** better terminal (i.e. vt100) emulation.
(In the configuration, make sure to specify VT100 and not the default, Auto
detect.)

Incidently, this newer version also supports TCP/IP connections, so you can
use it as a telnet app.  (Which I do on days, like this one, that I'm forced
to use Win95)

Regards,
Kevin Traas


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From: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux admin at alv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Win95 as a terminal


Win95 supports a Direct Cable Connection as an Adapter when you go to
network
properties. That said, I tried arduously to get this thing to work between
two
Win95 laptops without success. I suspect that with the right configuration
this
would work.

Bill Leach wrote:

 The short answer is 'yes'.

 One way would be to set up a ppp link on both the windoz box and the
 linux box (easy on Linux, don't know about windoz).

 Basically though, I would guess that if you can tell the Windoz dialer
 to make a connection without it issuing modem command then it should
 also be easy to do.

 I suggest that you do some reading.  Take a look at the HOWTOs for
 serial, ppp, and especially NET3.



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