Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-25 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:05:24 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 1/ At login screen, click the mouse button and wait for Florence to
 appears
 
 nothing happens then.
 
 2/ Then, after you login, run florence to get the keyboard
 
 as said above, florence runs fine withing a user session. but at the
 login window it will not appear with lines added to custom.conf and
 mouse 1-3 activating florence with the instructed options, or without.

Okay then. Let's review all the steps once more :-)

- You've got a /etc/gdm/custom.conf file with the following content:

[daemon]
Greeter=/usr/lib/gdmlogin 
GtkModulesList=gail:atk-bridge:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libkeymouselistener:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libdwellmouselistener
 
- You edited /etc/gdm/modules/AccessKeyMouseEvents, added the Florence 
lines and commented (#) the Mouse1Mouse3 for Gok, leaving the rest of 
the file intact.

- After that, you relogin, click the mouse buttons and nothing happens 
(virtual keyboard doesn't come up).

If so, I'd write a line to the Florence developer to inform him about 
this, because you did all the suggested steps and it seems to fail at some 
point :-?

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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-25 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay then. Let's review all the steps once more :-)

 - You've got a /etc/gdm/custom.conf file with the following content:

 [daemon]
 Greeter=/usr/lib/gdmlogin
 GtkModulesList=gail:atk-bridge:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libkeymouselistener:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libdwellmouselistener

~$ cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[daemon]

Greeter=/usr/lib/gdmlogin
GtkModulesList=gail:atk-bridge:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libkeymouselistener:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libdwellmouselistener


 - You edited /etc/gdm/modules/AccessKeyMouseEvents, added the Florence
 lines and commented (#) the Mouse1Mouse3 for Gok, leaving the rest of
 the file intact.

 - After that, you relogin, click the mouse buttons and nothing happens
 (virtual keyboard doesn't come up).

 If so, I'd write a line to the Florence developer to inform him about
 this, because you did all the suggested steps and it seems to fail at some
 point :-?

$ cat /etc/gdm/modules/AccessKeyMouseEvents



# AT Program - GOK (GNOME On-screen Keyboard)
#
# Include a gesture for both right and left mouse button, for both right
# and left handed users.
#
# hold right or left mouse button 3 times for 3 seconds each time.
# Mouse1 3 3000 1 /usr/bin/gok --login --access-method=directselection
# Mouse3 3 3000 1 /usr/bin/gok --login --access-method=directselection

...

# Start florence virtual keyboard by pressing any mouse button for 2 seconds
Mouse1 1 2000 1 /usr/bin/florence --focus --no-gnome
--use-config /usr/share/florence/florence.conf
Mouse2 1 2000 1 /usr/bin/florence --focus --no-gnome
--use-config /usr/share/florence/florence.conf
Mouse3 1 2000 1 /usr/bin/florence --focus --no-gnome
--use-config /usr/share/florence/florence.conf

AT program is commented out, as [1] requests to do. perhaps there is
something else that needs to be done for 0.4.7


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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-24 Thread Huang, Tao
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:25 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote:
 hmm... edited the two files as instructed but not only do i get no
 keyboard but a nice notifier telling me that my config is bad.

make sure you used correct syntax.

 along with that, gdm.conf in debian lenny is located in /etc/gdm/
 and there is a usr file for gdm under /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf

 shall i edit one, both?

/usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf is a example config file, edit the one in /etc/gdm.


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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-24 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:25:36 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Check if that helps:

 ***
 Using Florence with GDM
 http://florence.sourceforge.net/english/tips.html#gdm ***
 
 hmm... edited the two files as instructed but not only do i get no
 keyboard but a nice notifier telling me that my config is bad.

Check the systax of both files, as Tao suggested. 

Take special care while editing /etc/gdm/modules/AccessKeyMouseEvents 
because there are already some lines enabled for Gok (another virtual 
keyboard) that could be interfering with Florence. Do not delete these 
entries, just comment them (#).

 along with that, gdm.conf in debian lenny is located in /etc/gdm/ and
 there is a usr file for gdm under /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf
 
 shall i edit one, both?

No, you should only edit (or create, if not present):

/etc/gdm/custom.conf
/etc/gdm/modules/AccessKeyMouseEvents

Edit those files, check their syntax and review that there are no 
duplicated entries for Gok and Florence in the latter, relogin, press 
mouse button at least for 2 seconds to activate the virtual keyboard... 
and that should be all :-)

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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-24 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Check the systax of both files, as Tao suggested.

very little here for me to mess up. so im a bit stumped.

/etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[daemon]

Greeter=/usr/lib/gdmlogin
GtkModulesList=gail:atk-bridge:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libkeymouselistener:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libdwellmouselistener

DefaultSession=gnome.desktop

AddGtkModules=true

[security]

[xdmcp]

[gui]

[greeter]

GraphicalTheme=gnomeblack

GraphicalThemes=debian-greeter

Browser=false

[chooser]

[debug]

[servers]
==
/etc/gdm/modules/accesskeymouseevents

# AT Program - GOK (GNOME On-screen Keyboard)
#
# Include a gesture for both right and left mouse button, for both right
# and left handed users.
#
# hold right or left mouse button 3 times for 3 seconds each time.
# Mouse1 3 3000 1 /usr/bin/gok --login --access-method=directselection
# Mouse3 3 3000 1 /usr/bin/gok --login --access-method=directselection

# Also support Xinput switches
#
# Switch1 1 5000 0 /usr/bin/gok --login
--access-method=automaticscanning --scan-action=switch1
--select-action=switch1
# Switch2 3 50 3000 /usr/bin/gok --login
--access-method=inversescanning --scan-action=switch1
--select-action=switch2
# Switch3 3 1000 1 /usr/bin/gok --login
--access-method=automaticscanning --scan-action=switch3
--select-action=switch3

# Although most GOK users would want to use a mouse/switch button to start GOK,
# also include a keybinding for starting GOK with direct selection mode.
#
# Controlk  1 1000 1  /usr/bin/gok --login --access-method=directselection

# AT Program - ORCA
#
# press ctrl-s for 1 second to launch orca in speech mode
#
# Controls  1 1000 1  /usr/bin/orca -n -d main-window

# press ctrl-m for 1 second to launch orca in mag mode
#
# Controlm  1 1000 1  /usr/bin/orca -n -d main-window -d speech
-e magnifier

# press ctrl-o or ctrl-g for 1 second to launch orca in speech and mag mode
#
# Controlo  1 1000 1  /usr/bin/orca -n -d main-window -e magnifier
# Controlg  1 1000 1  /usr/bin/orca -n -d main-window -e magnifier

# Start florence virtual keyboard by pressing any mouse button for 2 seconds
Mouse1 1 2000 1 /usr/bin/florence --focus --no-gnome
--use-config /usr/share/florence/florence.conf
Mouse2 1 2000 1 /usr/bin/florence --focus --no-gnome
--use-config /usr/share/florence/florence.conf
Mouse3 1 2000 1 /usr/bin/florence --focus --no-gnome
--use-config /usr/share/florence/florence.conf


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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-24 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 07:50:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Check the systax of both files, as Tao suggested.
 
 very little here for me to mess up. so im a bit stumped.
 
 /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
  ^

As per the instructions, is not that file the one you have to edit but /
etc/gdm/custom.conf :-)

If it's not there, just create it and see how it goes.

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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-24 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 As per the instructions, is not that file the one you have to edit but /
 etc/gdm/custom.conf :-)
 If it's not there, just create it and see how it goes.

grrr..   ok, sorry about that. i no longer get the conf file warning anymore.
but nor do i get the keyboard.

ive noticed in the accesskey file im calling
/usr/bin/florence --focus --no-gnome --use-config
/usr/share/florence/florence.conf

but if i try to run that from the terminal i get

$ /usr/bin/florence --focus --no-gnome --use-config
/usr/share/florence/florence.conf
/usr/bin/florence: unrecognized option `--focus'
/usr/bin/florence - Florence is a simple virtual keyboard for Gnome.
Usage: /usr/bin/florence [OPTION]...
Options:
  -h, --help  display this help and exit
  -V, --version   output version information and exit
  -c, --configopen configuration window
  -d, --debug print debug information to stdout

Report bugs to f.agr...@gmail.com.
More informations at http://florence.sourceforge.net.


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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-24 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:29:10 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Camaleón wrote:

 As per the instructions, is not that file the one you have to edit but
 / etc/gdm/custom.conf :-)
 If it's not there, just create it and see how it goes.
 
 grrr..   ok, sorry about that. i no longer get the conf file warning
 anymore. 

Good :-)

 but nor do i get the keyboard.

Remember that at login screen you have to press any mouse button to 
activate the virtual keyboard. If you do not press any key, Florence does 
not become active.
 
 ive noticed in the accesskey file im calling /usr/bin/florence --focus
 --no-gnome --use-config /usr/share/florence/florence.conf

Mmm, I guess this line is used when the program is to be run from GDM. If 
you are inside a GNOME sessión, just run florence and the program 
should launch.

Just check that two things:

1/ At login screen, click the mouse button and wait for Florence to 
appears

2/ Then, after you login, run florence to get the keyboard

And report :-)

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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-24 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Remember that at login screen you have to press any mouse button to
 activate the virtual keyboard. If you do not press any key, Florence does
 not become active.

yah, i know that part ;)

 Mmm, I guess this line is used when the program is to be run from GDM. If
 you are inside a GNOME sessión, just run florence and the program
 should launch.

florence runs fine from comand line when logged in, just not with any
of those options.

 1/ At login screen, click the mouse button and wait for Florence to
 appears

nothing happens then.

 2/ Then, after you login, run florence to get the keyboard

as said above, florence runs fine withing a user session. but at the
login window it will not appear with lines added to custom.conf and
mouse 1-3 activating florence with the instructed options, or without.


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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-23 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:22:37 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:

 hello folks, i have a lenovo x61 tablet pc running lenny. its been
 working out fairly well along with the florence onscreen keyboard.
 
 the only place i cannot keep my computer in tablet mode is the x login
 screen. my question is how can i display an onscreen keyboard [florence
 or other] during the login process?

(...)

Check if that helps:

***
Using Florence with GDM
http://florence.sourceforge.net/english/tips.html#gdm
***

Greetings,

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Re: X login screen with onscreen keyboard

2010-06-23 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Check if that helps:

 ***
 Using Florence with GDM
 http://florence.sourceforge.net/english/tips.html#gdm
 ***

hmm... edited the two files as instructed but not only do i get no
keyboard but a nice notifier telling me that my config is bad.

along with that, gdm.conf in debian lenny is located in /etc/gdm/
and there is a usr file for gdm under /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf

shall i edit one, both?


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