Re: X stability issue
Hmmm it seems like I have found the root of the probelem. The HPT366 controller-driver in Linux. It seems to lock when triggering an interrupt call to the controller (under special conditions). Programs that tend to trigger this state are Netscape, Mozilla, Blender, CivCTP and so forth. I would like to thank for your replies - it's nice to know that I'm not the only one with a buggy system and that there is somebody working on it (Hedrik and Abit). Regards Sven Esbjerg
Re: X stability issue
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 01:51:39PM +0100, Vitux wrote: Sounds like a heat-related problem to me. Make sure the m'b is properly cooled, and fastened properly in the box. The temperature in the case is around 35°C and the CPU's are at 39°C - 40°C. I don't find that to be to much. To be honest I believe this to be a problem with the driver for the HPTA66 controller. I tried to test my HD's today and the computer immediately locked. Also when Mozilla runs i creates a lot of disk activity and that sometimes causes the computer to freeze. These thoughts are just guesses so feel free to comment. Regards Sven Esbjerg
Re: X stability issue
Sven Esbjerg wrote: to another workstation to kill X remotely. This time it's not enough. I have to reboot the machine to get some new output on the monitor. Now my questions are: Has anyone else experienced the same kind of instability? Does anyone know if this could be due to... - kernel instability? - X instability? - my hardware? - potato instability? The fact is that I really hate to reboot my machine - it feels like I'm running Windows. X is XFree86 version 3.3.6-6 (svga). Mboard is Abit BP6 (not OC'ed). Regards Sven Esbjerg Sounds like a heat-related problem to me. Make sure the m'b is properly cooled, and fastened properly in the box. hth Vitux -- Death comes to us in various guises, swiftly changing as a baby's mood... Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free Zone
Re: X stability issue
hi sven, i'm experiencing this kind of freezes, too. i also use kernel 2.2.14, but i'm not running debian (but suse) and use xfree 3.3.5. the programm that causes these freezes _seems_ to be netscape, but who knows for sure ... maybe because i own an abit board, too (it's a bx6) ... I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. I have a 2 month old potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a Matrox G400. The kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from hedrik). X freezes totally after a few days of use. Sometimes I'm able to go to a console and kill X as root other times it's necessary to log in from another workstation and kill X remotely - this is due to fact the my keyboard freezes too... Today it went really awfull. I wanted to try CivCTP on Linux to test the performance of my box. In the middle of the game everything freezes and I turn to another workstation to kill X remotely. This time it's not enough. I have to reboot the machine to get some new output on the monitor. Now my questions are: Has anyone else experienced the same kind of instability? Does anyone know if this could be due to... - kernel instability? - X instability? - my hardware? - potato instability? The fact is that I really hate to reboot my machine - it feels like I'm running Windows. X is XFree86 version 3.3.6-6 (svga). Mboard is Abit BP6 (not OC'ed). -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: X stability issue
I'm seeing this with netscape 4.72 (libc6 version), 2.2.14 and xserver-svga 3.3.6-6. If I bring up netscape, click on the location box and start to type, it will freeze every time. If I wait a few seconds after clicking on the box, the vertical cursor line will appear in the box and I can type without incident. On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 08:10:06PM +0100, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: hi sven, i'm experiencing this kind of freezes, too. i also use kernel 2.2.14, but i'm not running debian (but suse) and use xfree 3.3.5. the programm that causes these freezes _seems_ to be netscape, but who knows for sure ... maybe because i own an abit board, too (it's a bx6) ... I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. I have a 2 month old potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a Matrox G400. The kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from hedrik). X freezes totally after a few days of use. Sometimes I'm able to go to a console and kill X as root other times it's necessary to log in from another workstation and kill X remotely - this is due to fact the my keyboard freezes too... Today it went really awfull. I wanted to try CivCTP on Linux to test the performance of my box. In the middle of the game everything freezes and I turn to another workstation to kill X remotely. This time it's not enough. I have to reboot the machine to get some new output on the monitor. Now my questions are: Has anyone else experienced the same kind of instability? Does anyone know if this could be due to... - kernel instability? - X instability? - my hardware? - potato instability? The fact is that I really hate to reboot my machine - it feels like I'm running Windows. X is XFree86 version 3.3.6-6 (svga). Mboard is Abit BP6 (not OC'ed). -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY (RN2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nh QRP-L #1985 SOC #77http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: X stability issue
Sven Esbjerg writes: I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. Mine does. I have a 2 month old potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a Matrox G400. The kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from hedrik). Dual Pentium III, Tyan S1837UANG mb, 384MB RAM, Matrox G400, Adaptec 7896 UW2 SCSI, kernel compiled from kernel-source-2.2.14, xserver-svga 3.3.6-3. Sound locks up the filesystem, but I've had no problems with X. Current uptime is five days. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: X stability issue
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 07:58:34PM +0100, Sven Esbjerg wrote: Hi I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. I have a 2 month old potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a Matrox G400. The kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from hedrik). X freezes totally after a few days of use. I'm running quite similar setup to your and I haven't had any lockups after I flashed the BIOS. Before that I experienced crashes every now and then, even without OC'ing. Since the BIOS flash I haven't had any lockups, it's stable even if overclocked. My system is a potato :), with 2.2.14 kernel compiled from the original sources, Matrox Mystique 220, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dual-celeron and an Abit BP6. -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X stability issue
this is normal, netscape is trying to resolve some domain names during that point..and i guess because of its single-threadedness(?) that it freezes during resolution(found it when running an strace on the process) happens on every version of netscape/X i have used be it linux libc5 linux libc6, or irix nate On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Bob Nielsen wrote: nielse nielse I'm seeing this with netscape 4.72 (libc6 version), 2.2.14 and nielse xserver-svga 3.3.6-6. If I bring up netscape, click on the location nielse box and start to type, it will freeze every time. If I wait a few nielse seconds after clicking on the box, the vertical cursor line will appear nielse in the box and I can type without incident. nielse nielse nielse On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 08:10:06PM +0100, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: nielse hi sven, nielse nielse i'm experiencing this kind of freezes, too. nielse i also use kernel 2.2.14, but i'm not running debian (but suse) and use nielse xfree 3.3.5. nielse the programm that causes these freezes _seems_ to be netscape, but who nielse knows for sure ... nielse maybe because i own an abit board, too (it's a bx6) ... nielse nielse I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. I have a 2 month old nielse potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a Matrox G400. The nielse kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from hedrik). X freezes totally nielse after a few days of use. Sometimes I'm able to go to a console and kill X as nielse root other times it's necessary to log in from another workstation and kill X nielse remotely - this is due to fact the my keyboard freezes too... nielse Today it went really awfull. I wanted to try CivCTP on Linux to test the nielse performance of my box. In the middle of the game everything freezes and I turn nielse to another workstation to kill X remotely. This time it's not enough. I have to nielse reboot the machine to get some new output on the monitor. nielse nielse Now my questions are: nielse Has anyone else experienced the same kind of instability? nielse Does anyone know if this could be due to... nielse - kernel instability? nielse - X instability? nielse - my hardware? nielse - potato instability? nielse nielse The fact is that I really hate to reboot my machine - it feels like I'm running nielse Windows. nielse X is XFree86 version 3.3.6-6 (svga). Mboard is Abit BP6 (not OC'ed). nielse nielse nielse -- nielse Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! nielse -- nielse Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need. nielse nielse nielse -- nielse Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null nielse nielse nielse -- nielse Bob Nielsen, N7XY (RN2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] nielse Tucson, AZ DM42nh QRP-L #1985 SOC #77 http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen nielse nielse nielse nielse -- nielse Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null nielse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 1:08pm up 213 days, 1:40, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.04, 1.07
