Re: Your friends...... whatever.
Some time around Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:44:35 +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: [AOL] . . . their clueful/clueless ratio is probably the lowest in the industry ;-). One word: WebTV. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your brain is actually a fabulously complex computer, which means that on Jan. 1, 2000, it will stop working and your body will flop around like a recently caught perch. (Dave Barry, slightly paraphrased.)
Re: Your friends...... whatever.
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Igor Grobman wrote: Some time around Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:37:55 +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: Isnt that a valid reason to filter out @hotmail.com, @lycos.com etc? I am the debian anti-spam person, and I don't like to blanketly filter on from: addresses. Hotmail or lycos do not have anything to do with spammers. Most of the time the spammers set their from address to an invalid hotmail address just because that's the service they know. However, there are more than a few people who use such email services legitimately. I would rather block the real providers of the spammers (those that give them access and/or relay for them) rather than block on the from: address which does not mean much with spammers. True.. I stand corrected. I just got too much spam that Thursday :) Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is aol.com . It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field has nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists. Right now, all aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I haven't had to do any of that lately). Heh... its funny really.. AOL has quite strict rules does it not? Correct me if I am wrong. I dont know about anyone else... But that sort of [EMAIL PROTECTED] really bugs me. Unfortunately, my spam filter wont catch stuff sent to the list.. :( I am trying my best to make sure debian lists do not get spam. You do a pretty good job... from what I have seen. I just meant the odd one or two like the one I referred to here. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - If NT is the answer, you didn't understand the question. (NOTE: Stolen sig) - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: Your friends...... whatever.
Some time around Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:44:35 +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Igor Grobman wrote: Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is aol.c om . It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field ha s nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists. Right now, all aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I haven't had to do any of that lately). Heh... its funny really.. AOL has quite strict rules does it not? Correct me if I am wrong. Yes they do, but they do have a huge customer base and it's very easy to sign on even for a newbie, plus their clueful/clueless ratio is probably the lowest in the industry ;-). That means that the spammers have no problem signing on with a new account as soon as they are kicked off, and that the chances of a relevant post to debian lists are very low. I haven't seen one in about 2 months. -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Your friends...... whatever.
Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some time around Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:44:35 +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Igor Grobman wrote: Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is aol.com . It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field ha s nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists. Right now, all aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I haven't had to do any of that lately). Heh... its funny really.. AOL has quite strict rules does it not? Correct me if I am wrong. Yes they do, but they do have a huge customer base and it's very easy to sign on even for a newbie, plus their clueful/clueless ratio is probably the lowest in the industry ;-). That means that the spammers have no problem signing on with a new account as soon as they are kicked off, and that the chances of a relevant post to debian lists are very low. I haven't seen one in about 2 months. In addition their software is proprietary from scratch. Rumor goes they wrote a complete OS for providing the service. This gives them 100% virus protection... (well nearly). And this is why their software only runs on Windows boxes, thus the signal to noise ratio is stunningly low, isn't it? Jens -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] KeyID: 2048/E451C639 1998/01/28 Print: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 Global War[m|n|p|r]ing? -- Peter G. Neumann (Comp.Risks 19.91)
Re: Your friends...... whatever.
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 01:56:57PM -0400, Igor Grobman wrote: I am the debian anti-spam person, (much deleted) Debian-user is amazingly spam free. I could tell that someone was doing something, but I had no idea who or what. Thanks, Igor Mike
Re: Your friends...... whatever.
Some time around Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:37:55 +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: Isnt that a valid reason to filter out @hotmail.com, @lycos.com etc? I am the debian anti-spam person, and I don't like to blanketly filter on from: addresses. Hotmail or lycos do not have anything to do with spammers. Most of the time the spammers set their from address to an invalid hotmail address just because that's the service they know. However, there are more than a few people who use such email services legitimately. I would rather block the real providers of the spammers (those that give them access and/or relay for them) rather than block on the from: address which does not mean much with spammers. Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is aol.com . It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field has nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists. Right now, all aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I haven't had to do any of that lately). I dont know about anyone else... But that sort of [EMAIL PROTECTED] really bugs me. Unfortunately, my spam filter wont catch stuff sent to the list.. :( I am trying my best to make sure debian lists do not get spam. -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Your friends...... whatever.
Isnt that a valid reason to filter out @hotmail.com, @lycos.com etc? I dont know about anyone else... But that sort of [EMAIL PROTECTED] really bugs me. Unfortunately, my spam filter wont catch stuff sent to the list.. :( Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 003 Dynamic linking error - Your mistake is now in every file - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: Your friends...... whatever.
On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: Isnt that a valid reason to filter out @hotmail.com, @lycos.com etc? I thought there already was such a filter... is it broken or something? -- Maarten
Re: Your friends...... whatever.
On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Maarten Bezemer wrote: On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: Isnt that a valid reason to filter out @hotmail.com, @lycos.com etc? I thought there already was such a filter... is it broken or something? Pass. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 00C Reserved for future mistakes by our developers - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
