Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:41:52 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) I would try first to get an accurate temperature measure for the CPU (69° C is a bit high, even for a laptop, but not critical -that depends on the microprocessor type-). Are you able to get these values from BIOS? Just to make a comparison... 'sensors-detect' gets: Sorry, no sensors were detected. Either your sensors are not supported, or they are connected to an I2C or SMBus adapter that is not supported. See http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3 for further information. Did you read the suggested steps? http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3#Sensors-detectdoesntworkatall Mmm, does not look good. You can try to load the latest SystemRescueCD (a livecd) which has the latest version for lm-sensors package. If running sensors-detect there either works, then... dunno :-/ BIOS shows nothing of either fan or temperature. Ouch :-( The only temperature indicators are h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp 66000 h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/temp 5 It is not clear what these refer to. Thermal zones are points defined to ring the bell (getting an alarm and provide an event → i.e., activating or speeding up the fan) to avoid overheating, but provided that your ACPI detection is not very accurate, I won't take that values very seriously. 'fancontrol' is shown as part of the package lm-sensors. Yes :-( Lenny has only 2.6.26 kernel. I can try knoppix 6.2.1 which has a 2.6.32 kernel and see if it has a later lm-sensors. Lenny has version 3.0.2 and sid has 3.1.2, don't know if that will make much difference. no sensors-detect in knoppix 6.2.1 I'll see if there is a forum for lm-sensors Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i2ruuh$pb...@dough.gmane.org
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
hugo vanwoerkom wrote: hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:41:52 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) I would try first to get an accurate temperature measure for the CPU (69° C is a bit high, even for a laptop, but not critical -that depends on the microprocessor type-). Are you able to get these values from BIOS? Just to make a comparison... 'sensors-detect' gets: Sorry, no sensors were detected. Either your sensors are not supported, or they are connected to an I2C or SMBus adapter that is not supported. See http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3 for further information. Did you read the suggested steps? http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3#Sensors-detectdoesntworkatall Mmm, does not look good. You can try to load the latest SystemRescueCD (a livecd) which has the latest version for lm-sensors package. If running sensors-detect there either works, then... dunno :-/ BIOS shows nothing of either fan or temperature. Ouch :-( The only temperature indicators are h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp 66000 h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/temp 5 It is not clear what these refer to. Thermal zones are points defined to ring the bell (getting an alarm and provide an event → i.e., activating or speeding up the fan) to avoid overheating, but provided that your ACPI detection is not very accurate, I won't take that values very seriously. 'fancontrol' is shown as part of the package lm-sensors. Yes :-( Lenny has only 2.6.26 kernel. I can try knoppix 6.2.1 which has a 2.6.32 kernel and see if it has a later lm-sensors. Lenny has version 3.0.2 and sid has 3.1.2, don't know if that will make much difference. no sensors-detect in knoppix 6.2.1 I'll see if there is a forum for lm-sensors But look at this: h...@debian:~$ sensors -v sensors version 3.0.2 with libsensors version 3.0.2 h...@debian:~$ sensors acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1: +62.0°C (crit = +100.0°C) temp2: +46.0°C (crit = +70.0°C) Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i2rvse$tf...@dough.gmane.org
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:31:54 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: hugo vanwoerkom wrote: (...) no sensors-detect in knoppix 6.2.1 I'll see if there is a forum for lm-sensors But look at this: h...@debian:~$ sensors -v sensors version 3.0.2 with libsensors version 3.0.2 h...@debian:~$ sensors acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1: +62.0°C (crit = +100.0°C) temp2: +46.0°C (crit = +70.0°C) I'm afraid that is the virtual device, not the real one. If there are no more sensors detected (just the virtual), it's a bad sign :-( Sorry, I'm out of ideas. Laptops are very customized/closed devices, I'm afraid they come ready for Windows (you'll see there are lots of tools for controlling fan speed and temperature measuring _inside_ win). Also, manufacturer's tools to handle this are designed for Windows. I know there are some linux packages for specific laptops (Toshiba, HP...) that allow to control/customize the function keys and do other fancy things, maybe you can find something similar for Acer :-? A BIOS update can (sometimes) help, but don't do it unless you know for sure what are you doing :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.29.13.44...@gmail.com
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
On 7/28/10 8:19 AM, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps change. Hugo I don't know about controlling the fan manually outside of the bios or an Acer approved application, but I do know you can install some tools to stop the fan from being so noisy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7273893postcount=59 should still work with the latest Ubuntu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c5030a8.7020...@envygeeks.com
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
Jordon Bedwell wrote: On 7/28/10 8:19 AM, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps change. Hugo I don't know about controlling the fan manually outside of the bios or an Acer approved application, but I do know you can install some tools to stop the fan from being so noisy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7273893postcount=59 should still work with the latest Ubuntu. Thanks Jordon. I have acerfand installed but that only sets the fan to 'AUTO' or 'OFF' and is sort of pervasive, it keeps writing to syslog and it seems to be able to create a race condition. acerhdf does not compile and what it says in the readme does not seem true: ON: 'echo 1 /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/cdev0/cur_state' does nothing, it does not turn the fan on. But: 'cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp' does say 67000 Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i2pe13$t8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:19:02 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps change. I think lm-sensors includes a fancontrol package, but be careful if you want to manually set the fan speed, because this parameter should be automatically adjusted by ACPI and cpufreqd. Ideally, running acpi -V will display more info about your thermal zones and current temperature trip points. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.28.14.22...@gmail.com
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:19:02 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps change. I think lm-sensors includes a fancontrol package, but be careful if you want to manually set the fan speed, because this parameter should be automatically adjusted by ACPI and cpufreqd. Ideally, running acpi -V will display more info about your thermal zones and current temperature trip points. lm-sensors does not work on this laptop, 'sensors-detect' does not detect any sensors. 'acpi -v' reads; Battery 0: Charging, 0%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge., design capacity 4400 mAh AC Adapter 0: on-line Thermal 0: ok, 53.0 degrees C Thermal 1: ok, 69.0 degrees C Cooling 0: Processor 1 of 7 But I notice that /etc/rc2.d has 'S20fancontrol', I wonder what that does. I would just like to turn the fan on, since I never hear it. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i2pfh4$3h...@dough.gmane.org
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:19:02 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps change. I think lm-sensors includes a fancontrol package, but be careful if you want to manually set the fan speed, because this parameter should be automatically adjusted by ACPI and cpufreqd. Ideally, running acpi -V will display more info about your thermal zones and current temperature trip points. lm-sensors does not work on this laptop, 'sensors-detect' does not detect any sensors. 'acpi -v' reads; Battery 0: Charging, 0%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge., design capacity 4400 mAh AC Adapter 0: on-line Thermal 0: ok, 53.0 degrees C Thermal 1: ok, 69.0 degrees C Cooling 0: Processor 1 of 7 But I notice that /etc/rc2.d has 'S20fancontrol', I wonder what that does. I would just like to turn the fan on, since I never hear it. That is part of lm-sensors, won't work... :-( Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i2pghs$7a...@dough.gmane.org
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:40:23 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: I think lm-sensors includes a fancontrol package, but be careful if you want to manually set the fan speed, because this parameter should be automatically adjusted by ACPI and cpufreqd. Ideally, running acpi -V will display more info about your thermal zones and current temperature trip points. lm-sensors does not work on this laptop, 'sensors-detect' does not detect any sensors. Usually, sensors-detect gives you some tips for loading the right modules for your board and once you load them, starts working. 'acpi -v' reads; Battery 0: Charging, 0%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge., design capacity 4400 mAh AC Adapter 0: on-line Thermal 0: ok, 53.0 degrees C Thermal 1: ok, 69.0 degrees C Cooling 0: Processor 1 of 7 But I notice that /etc/rc2.d has 'S20fancontrol', I wonder what that does. I would just like to turn the fan on, since I never hear it. Maybe that fancontrol is the service provided by lm-sensors, but not sure :-? I would try first to get an accurate temperature measure for the CPU (69° C is a bit high, even for a laptop, but not critical -that depends on the microprocessor type-). Are you able to get these values from BIOS? Just to make a comparison... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.28.15.14...@gmail.com
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:40:23 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: I think lm-sensors includes a fancontrol package, but be careful if you want to manually set the fan speed, because this parameter should be automatically adjusted by ACPI and cpufreqd. Ideally, running acpi -V will display more info about your thermal zones and current temperature trip points. lm-sensors does not work on this laptop, 'sensors-detect' does not detect any sensors. Usually, sensors-detect gives you some tips for loading the right modules for your board and once you load them, starts working. 'acpi -v' reads; Battery 0: Charging, 0%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge., design capacity 4400 mAh AC Adapter 0: on-line Thermal 0: ok, 53.0 degrees C Thermal 1: ok, 69.0 degrees C Cooling 0: Processor 1 of 7 But I notice that /etc/rc2.d has 'S20fancontrol', I wonder what that does. I would just like to turn the fan on, since I never hear it. Maybe that fancontrol is the service provided by lm-sensors, but not sure :-? I would try first to get an accurate temperature measure for the CPU (69° C is a bit high, even for a laptop, but not critical -that depends on the microprocessor type-). Are you able to get these values from BIOS? Just to make a comparison... 'sensors-detect' gets: Sorry, no sensors were detected. Either your sensors are not supported, or they are connected to an I2C or SMBus adapter that is not supported. See http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3 for further information. BIOS shows nothing of either fan or temperature. The only temperature indicators are h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp 66000 h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/temp 5 It is not clear what these refer to. 'fancontrol' is shown as part of the package lm-sensors. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i2pj43$i0...@dough.gmane.org
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:41:52 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) I would try first to get an accurate temperature measure for the CPU (69° C is a bit high, even for a laptop, but not critical -that depends on the microprocessor type-). Are you able to get these values from BIOS? Just to make a comparison... 'sensors-detect' gets: Sorry, no sensors were detected. Either your sensors are not supported, or they are connected to an I2C or SMBus adapter that is not supported. See http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3 for further information. Did you read the suggested steps? http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3#Sensors-detectdoesntworkatall Mmm, does not look good. You can try to load the latest SystemRescueCD (a livecd) which has the latest version for lm-sensors package. If running sensors-detect there either works, then... dunno :-/ BIOS shows nothing of either fan or temperature. Ouch :-( The only temperature indicators are h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp 66000 h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/temp 5 It is not clear what these refer to. Thermal zones are points defined to ring the bell (getting an alarm and provide an event → i.e., activating or speeding up the fan) to avoid overheating, but provided that your ACPI detection is not very accurate, I won't take that values very seriously. 'fancontrol' is shown as part of the package lm-sensors. Yes :-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.28.16.59...@gmail.com
Re: controlling fanspeed - gnome lenny - acer laptop
Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:41:52 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) I would try first to get an accurate temperature measure for the CPU (69° C is a bit high, even for a laptop, but not critical -that depends on the microprocessor type-). Are you able to get these values from BIOS? Just to make a comparison... 'sensors-detect' gets: Sorry, no sensors were detected. Either your sensors are not supported, or they are connected to an I2C or SMBus adapter that is not supported. See http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3 for further information. Did you read the suggested steps? http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter3#Sensors-detectdoesntworkatall Mmm, does not look good. You can try to load the latest SystemRescueCD (a livecd) which has the latest version for lm-sensors package. If running sensors-detect there either works, then... dunno :-/ BIOS shows nothing of either fan or temperature. Ouch :-( The only temperature indicators are h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp 66000 h...@debian:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/temp 5 It is not clear what these refer to. Thermal zones are points defined to ring the bell (getting an alarm and provide an event → i.e., activating or speeding up the fan) to avoid overheating, but provided that your ACPI detection is not very accurate, I won't take that values very seriously. 'fancontrol' is shown as part of the package lm-sensors. Yes :-( Lenny has only 2.6.26 kernel. I can try knoppix 6.2.1 which has a 2.6.32 kernel and see if it has a later lm-sensors. Lenny has version 3.0.2 and sid has 3.1.2, don't know if that will make much difference. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i2pr8f$hg...@dough.gmane.org
