Re: directly install RH packages using rpm instead of alien

2010-09-23 Thread T o n g
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:16:55 +, T o n g wrote:

 - There is a complicated installation script (think of being more
 complicated than VMWare), and rpm installation is just one of its single
 line.
 - The only dependencies of the sw is actually JRE, so I'm hope I would
 avoid the infamous RH dependency hell.

JFTA, I would rather not poke into the complicated installation script, 
so I bite the bullet and did the rpm installation...

And it turns out fine. 

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Re: directly install RH packages using rpm instead of alien

2010-09-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:16:55 +, T o n g wrote:

 We all know that,
 
 ,-
 | On Debian and derived systems it is recommended to use alien to |
 convert RPM packages into .deb format instead of bypassing the Debian |
 package management system by installing them directly with rpm. `-
 
 However, I'm wondering if it OK to install RH packages directly using
 rpm instead of going through alien convention.

(...)

Smart package manager¹ was developed having that in mind, but I think 
there is no direct (and clean) way to install rpm on deb systems (and 
viceversa), so, why not follow the alien path being the recommended 
one? :-?

¹ Does Smart's wide support for packaging systems mean I can install .rpm 
packages on my Debian system? Or .deb packages on my RPM-based system?
http://labix.org/smart/faq#head-15e431ff69330db0ad3f078e2139c58ba7b00a4b

Greetings,

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Re: directly install RH packages using rpm instead of alien

2010-09-22 Thread Berni Elbourn

T o n g wrote:
Hi, 

We all know that, 


,-
| On Debian and derived systems it is recommended to use alien to
| convert RPM packages into .deb format instead of bypassing the Debian
| package management system by installing them directly with rpm.
`-

However, I'm wondering if it OK to install RH packages directly using rpm 
instead of going through alien convention. 

The reason that I'm asking is that, 

- I'm installing a preparatory sw. It is only available in RH/Suse rpm 
packages. 
- There is a complicated installation script (think of being more 
complicated than VMWare), and rpm installation is just one of its single 
line.
- The only dependencies of the sw is actually JRE, so I'm hope I would 
avoid the infamous RH dependency hell.


But there is still one dependency there, and I don't know how to satisfy 
that. 


Do you have any similar experiences?

Thanks



Yes - don't do it. ;-)

Consider putting the application in a virtual machine, or asking the supplier 
for a proper Debian port?


Berni


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Re: directly install RH packages using rpm instead of alien

2010-09-22 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:16 PM, T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com wrote:
 However, I'm wondering if it OK to install RH packages directly using rpm
 instead of going through alien convention.
 Do you have any similar experiences?

Yes, one time my girlfriend put diesel  into our gasoline powered car.
I didn't think this was possible, but she managed to find a way.
Regardless of whether you can or cannot do the same with your car, I
would advise against it. The results were not pretty.

Best,
AM


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