Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:35:41PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:54, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. Maybe, it would be wise to remove it from the proposed locations in the installer! Ah, good point. I've commented it out appropriately, it should no longer appear there (assuming choose-mirror doesn't do something crazy). Thanks for the idea - although it would have been better if you Cc:ed it to me or to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'm not subscribed to the -user list, I just happened to go looking. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. If you're using it now, please switch to a country-based DNS name such as ftp.us.debian.org, ftp.ca.debian.org, ftp.uk.debian.org, ... The list of those servers is at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list Does the same go for ../project/experimental? Yes. All normal mirrors that carry debian/ also have project/experimental. -- Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update - Problem solved.
On 12/3/07, Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were you getting the same thing from apt-get commands? I didn't try apt-get commands, actually. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:54, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. Maybe, it would be wise to remove it from the proposed locations in the installer! Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:35:41PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:54, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. Maybe, it would be wise to remove it from the proposed locations in the installer! Thierry The last installation I recall prompted for a mirror based on my location (Romania). It offered only Romanian mirrors, the first being ftp.ro.debian.org (the primary mirror for Romania). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 22:44, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:35:41PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:54, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. Maybe, it would be wise to remove it from the proposed locations in the installer! Thierry The last installation I recall prompted for a mirror based on my location (Romania). It offered only Romanian mirrors, the first being ftp.ro.debian.org (the primary mirror for Romania). Last install I did (yesterday) using a freshly downloaded netinstall iso proposed me, oupss no, had available, ftp.debian.org. I dont remember what it proposed me as a default, Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On 12/3/07, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We're going to be changing ftp.debian.org setup a bit... but first, a friendly reminder. OK, I got bitten and just checked my /etc/apt/sources.list, and noticed all my debian references were to ftp.debian.org. I beg penance. So I switched them all to ftp.us.debian.org, and did a sudo aptitude update yet I am getting a segmentation fault as the last line of that output. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable Release.gpg Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Translation-en_US Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable Release Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Sources/DiffIndex Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Packages Get:2 http://ftp.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free Translation-en_US Get:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Translation-en_US Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Sources Get:4 http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Translation-en_US Hit http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Packages Hit http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Sources Get:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing Release [68.5kB] Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing Release Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Translation-en_US Get:6 http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release [22.5kB] Get:7 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid Release [79.6kB] Get:8 http://debian-multimedia.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://debian-multimedia.org testing/main Translation-en_US Get:9 http://debian-multimedia.org testing Release [5561B] Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages/DiffIndex Get:10 http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Translation-en_US Get:11 http://deb.opera.com lenny Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://deb.opera.com lenny/non-free Translation-en_US Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Get:12 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Sources [1394kB] Hit http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Release Hit http://deb.opera.com lenny Release Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://debian-multimedia.org testing/main Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://deb.opera.com lenny/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Packages Hit http://debian-multimedia.org testing/main Sources/DiffIndex Get:13 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages [106kB] Ign http://deb.opera.com lenny/non-free Packages Hit http://deb.opera.com lenny/non-free Packages Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Packages Get:14 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Sources [13.8kB] Get:15 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/contrib Sources [25.4kB] Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Sources Get:16 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/non-free Sources [31.9kB] Get:17 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages [5103kB] Get:18 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Packages [83.6kB] Get:19 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Packages [105kB] Get:20 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Sources [1467kB] Get:21 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Sources [29.0kB] Get:22 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Sources [34.7kB] Fetched 8570kB in 44s (191kB/s) Segmentation faultsts... 95% I did it again just to be sure, and: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable Release.gpg Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Translation-en_US Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable Release Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Translation-en_US Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org testing Release Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Get:3 http://ftp.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.debian.org
Re: ftp.debian.org update - Problem solved.
On 12/3/07, David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously: OK, I got bitten and just checked my /etc/apt/sources.list, and noticed all my debian references were to ftp.debian.org. I beg penance. snip explanation and aptitude output. Found what I think is the issue. I still had a few ftp.debian.org lists in my /var/lib/apt/lists subdirectory, plus one reference to ftp.debian.org still unedited in /etc/apt/sources.list. I removed the ftp.debian.org* files in /var/lib/apt/lists, because I was getting the same segfault on all aptitude requests, even 'autoclean' and 'clean'. The segfault on 'sudo aptitude autoclean' went away when I removed the ftp.debian.org files, so I was on the right track. It just took a little extra inspection and removal of ftp.debian.org files in /var/lib/apt/lists - so bear this in mind when you update your chosen mirrors :). HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:33:52PM -0800, David Fox wrote: Fetched 23.8kB in 4s (5406B/s) Segmentation faultsts... 95% I'm going to clean /var/cache/apt/archives just in case. This is better: rm /var/cache/apt/*pkgcache.bin -- Chi usa software non libero avvelena anche te. Digli di smettere. Informatica=arsenico: minime dosi in rari casi patologici, altrimenti letale. Informatica=bomba: intelligente solo per gli stupidi che ci credono. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update - Problem solved.
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:52:33PM -0800, David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On 12/3/07, David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously: OK, I got bitten and just checked my /etc/apt/sources.list, and noticed all my debian references were to ftp.debian.org. I beg penance. snip explanation and aptitude output. Found what I think is the issue. I still had a few ftp.debian.org lists in my /var/lib/apt/lists subdirectory, plus one reference to ftp.debian.org still unedited in /etc/apt/sources.list. I removed the ftp.debian.org* files in /var/lib/apt/lists, because I was getting the same segfault on all aptitude requests, even 'autoclean' and 'clean'. The segfault on 'sudo aptitude autoclean' went away when I removed the ftp.debian.org files, so I was on the right track. It just took a little extra inspection and removal of ftp.debian.org files in /var/lib/apt/lists - so bear this in mind when you update your chosen mirrors :). Were you getting the same thing from apt-get commands? Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/03/07 13:52, Josip Rodin wrote: Hi, We're going to be changing ftp.debian.org setup a bit... but first, a friendly reminder. Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. ftp.debian.org is merely one of several servers that get updated from an internal Debian server. That address is presently located on a single server in the United States, and it still exists mainly for backwards compatibility. In the future, it may get services reduced, or shut down, or converted into a globally load-balanced name, or whatever. Please don't use it. If you're using it now, please switch to a country-based DNS name such as ftp.us.debian.org, ftp.ca.debian.org, ftp.uk.debian.org, ... The list of those servers is at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list Does the same go for ../project/experimental? Now, back to the current business. Because of local disk space issues, ftp.d.o has had intermittent problems over the past few months, and right now it's simply not able to update the debian archive. It's currently carrying a full mirror of oldstable, and a 'debian-typical' mirror (i386, amd64, source) of everything else (stable, testing, unstable). We'll have to reduce the size of its mirror of oldstable as well, so that it keeps enough free disk space to be able to update what it has. (Some time ago, we have contacted all registered mirrors rsyncing off that machine asking them to switch to a better place. All mirrors with reasonably responsive maintainers will not be affected; those who have ignored our advice might notice changes.) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVQFZS9HxQb37XmcRAh51AJ9wK1IL8hZdiROsS7m+n4hpyq3QCQCfcI1Z ymchhl1yZLbYwOVZOqStqhQ= =mzHJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 10:15:55PM -0500, steve wrote: is ftp.debian.org down?, cant update or install anything last couple hours... just get a timeout, but pings ok? ftp.debian.org is kept for historical reasons. You should switch to ftp.us.debian.org (I'm guessing you are in the US). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ftp.debian.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 10:15:55PM -0500, steve wrote: is ftp.debian.org down?, cant update or install anything last couple hours... just get a timeout, but pings ok? ftp.debian.org is kept for historical reasons. You should switch to ftp.us.debian.org (I'm guessing you are in the US). Regards, Andrei will do.thanks for the heads up, -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPN0wvcaLutW7oXQRAvHpAJ4xkZpQ8qojWrEs4sc0UvLWlSTpKwCfTi5z r1NcIOJnr5wwhZAf3td0iyE= =B2QX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 10:15:55PM -0500, steve wrote: is ftp.debian.org down?, cant update or install anything last couple hours... just get a timeout, but pings ok? From Chennai, India, I can confirm this. (And unfortunately, the mirror in Chennai, India - ftp.iitm.ac.in -, is also down at the moment. What a bad day!) Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 458, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org amd64 packages
Tanel Kokk wrote: Can somebody explain me, why screen packages on these sites differ by size? ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/screen/screen_4.0.2-4.1_amd64.deb size: 608816 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/pool/main/s/screen/screen_4.0.2-4.1_amd64.deb size: 599480 As I understand package with exactly the same name shouldn't differ. One of these sites Hacked? Tanel Mirror with debian-amd64 are from the past, and I guess, not updated. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org amd64 packages
Thierry Chatelet wrote: Mirror with debian-amd64 are from the past, and I guess, not updated. Thierry If so, then why ftp.debian.org's pool contains amd64 packages at all? Tanel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org amd64 packages
Tanel Kokk wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: Mirror with debian-amd64 are from the past, and I guess, not updated. Thierry If so, then why ftp.debian.org's pool contains amd64 packages at all? Tanel That's a good question, and also, I did not notice that the packages have exactly the same name, therefor they should be identical. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org amd64 packages
Thierry Chatelet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tanel Kokk wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: Mirror with debian-amd64 are from the past, and I guess, not updated. Thierry If so, then why ftp.debian.org's pool contains amd64 packages at all? Tanel That's a good question, and also, I did not notice that the packages have exactly the same name, therefor they should be identical. Thierry The explanation is simple. When amd64 was added to sid, all the packages were re-compiled. So they are not going to be the same. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org down?
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 09:26:35AM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote: I haven't been able to connect for at least 12 hours. Yes, it's down for power maintenance. See: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0112/msg02086.html -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org
Is ftp.debian.org down? is there a mailing list for the ftp admins? I do a mirror of slink and potato i386. Yes, it seems so. I've been unable to connect since last night. It's in the process of moving to a new server. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - Drive nail here ( ) to need a new monitor. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: ftp.debian.org
Lawrence Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is ftp.debian.org down? is there a mailing list for the ftp admins? I do a mirror of slink and potato i386. Yes, it seems so. I've been unable to connect since last night. -- Arcady Genkin I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood... - GsYDE
Re: ftp.debian.org
On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am perhaps asking this question in the wrong place, but here goes... I keep a local mirror of ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/hamm for my personal use. I noticed a few messages about some sort of reorganization of some of the mirror sites, and was wondering if this mirror path will remain valid after the release of 2.0 or am I going to wake up one day and find that the mirror program just deleted my files? Should I be using a different path for my mirror? I did notice that the mirror site at ftp.mi.us.debian.org uses a slightly different directory structure, and my mirror configuration won't work there without modifications. ftp.mi.us.debian.org follows the guidelines for 'official mirrors' which states the distribution should be found under /debian. So removing '/pub' (using /debian/dists/hamm) will retreive the same information from both ftp.mi.us.debian.org and ftp.debian.org. Dpk -- Dennis Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] | phone: 353.4844 Network Admin, College of Engineering, MSU | pager: 222.5875 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ftp.debian.org
Thanks for the info, Dennis. I'll change my config accordingly. Mike -Original Message- From: dpk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 7:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian User List Subject: Re: ftp.debian.org On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am perhaps asking this question in the wrong place, but here goes... I keep a local mirror of ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/hamm for my personal use. I noticed a few messages about some sort of reorganization of some of the mirror sites, and was wondering if this mirror path will remain valid after the release of 2.0 or am I going to wake up one day and find that the mirror program just deleted my files? Should I be using a different path for my mirror? I did notice that the mirror site at ftp.mi.us.debian.org uses a slightly different directory structure, and my mirror configuration won't work there without modifications. ftp.mi.us.debian.org follows the guidelines for 'official mirrors' which states the distribution should be found under /debian. So removing '/pub' (using /debian/dists/hamm) will retreive the same information from both ftp.mi.us.debian.org and ftp.debian.org. Dpk -- Dennis Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] | phone: 353.4844 Network Admin, College of Engineering, MSU | pager: 222.5875 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 08:13:18AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 00:49:16 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: [12:47am] [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet ftp.debian.org ftp Trying 130.207.7.21... Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. Escape character is '^]'. 220 santanni.cc.gatech.edu FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](4) Well, crap. What does your traceroute look like? Not sure how helpful this is since I'm in .AU 1 jay.hilink.com.au (203.63.216.17) 1.629 ms 1.381 ms 2.663 ms 2 minos.labyrinth.net.au (203.9.148.3) 3.673 ms 6.443 ms 5.366 ms 3 gw-auix.mel.labyrinth.net.au (198.32.194.13) 24.457 ms 9.567 ms 7.413 ms 4 serial11-0-0.cor1.mel.connect.com.au (203.63.115.226) 119.173 ms 266.088 ms 279.264 ms 5 fastethernet4-0-0.bdr1.mel.connect.com.au (203.8.183.46) 14.952 ms 24.72 ms 42.504 ms 6 Fddi1-0-1.lon6.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.49.81) 20.62 ms 9.761 ms 10.262 ms 7 Fddi0-0.lon-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.239.226) 14.034 ms 19.12 ms 17.417 ms 8 Atm5-1-0-1.pad-core1.Sydney.telstra.net (139.130.249.25) 40.18 ms 26.084 ms 24.988 ms 9 Fddi0-0.pad16.Sydney.telstra.net (139.130.249.235) 181.486 ms 251.859 ms 29.235 ms 10 205.174.74.185 (205.174.74.185) 297.444 ms 295.028 ms 286.688 ms 11 paloalto-cr18.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.125) 284.31 ms 286.268 ms 285.802 ms 12 paloalto-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.3.85) 291.096 ms 286.503 ms 292.924 ms 13 paloalto-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.2.198) 288.442 ms 284.813 ms 340.384 ms 14 atlanta1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.3.169) 362.742 ms 342.586 ms 366.634 ms 15 atlanta1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.169) 350.335 ms 350.417 ms 376.136 ms 16 atlanta2-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.150) 390.727 ms 379.038 ms 362.196 ms 17 atlanta2-cr99.bbnplanet.net (4.0.2.91) 373.947 ms 351.11 ms 346.913 ms 18 192.221.26.3 (192.221.26.3) 348.157 ms 353.959 ms 359.51 ms 19 130.207.251.2 (130.207.251.2) 351.301 ms 348.242 ms 360.905 ms 20 santanni.cc.gatech.edu (130.207.7.21) 354.945 ms 399.151 ms 356.654 ms ... and it's a day later. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 00:55:59 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Do either of these require reverse lookups on FTPs? I can't get in from home, which currently is not resolving on reverse lookups. I can get in from work, however. To answer my own question, both ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org refuse connections to sites which do not reverse lookup. Pity. :/ -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 00:55:59 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Do either of these require reverse lookups on FTPs? I can't get in from home, which currently is not resolving on reverse lookups. I can get in from work, however. To answer my own question, both ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org refuse connections to sites which do not reverse lookup. Pity. :/ I have turned off PARANOID for ftp... you should be able to get in now. Dpk -- Dennis Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] | phone: 353.4844 Network Admin, College of Engineering, MSU | pager: 222.5875 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:57:50 -0400 (EDT), dpk wrote: I have turned off PARANOID for ftp... you should be able to get in now. Thanks. Dunno why but some of the addresses for jps.net just don't reverse well, others do. *shrug* -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: Anyone know what is up with these two sites? ftp.debian.org appears to be refusing connections and ftp.us.debian.org looks like the daemon is there but inactive. :/ I just got into ftp.debian.org fine. us didn't work however. Cheers. -- Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.telmer.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:30:39 -0400 (EDT), Colin Telmer wrote: I just got into ftp.debian.org fine. us didn't work however. Cheers. From dselect: Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C) Connecting to ftp.debian.org... Failed to connect Retry connection at once [y]: From the CLI: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# telnet ftp.debian.org ftp Trying 130.207.7.21... Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. Escape character is '^]'. user anonymous Connection closed by foreign host. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# Ping, traceroute and mtr are look fine, though. :( -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 07:41:49AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: From the CLI: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# telnet ftp.debian.org ftp Trying 130.207.7.21... Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. Escape character is '^]'. user anonymous [12:47am] [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet ftp.debian.org ftp Trying 130.207.7.21... Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. Escape character is '^]'. 220 santanni.cc.gatech.edu FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](4) Thu Feb 12 17:00:23 EST 1998) ready. user anonymous 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. pass [EMAIL PROTECTED] 230- 230-Welcome to the Georgia Tech College of Computing FTP service. 230- 230-Access from yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au is being logged. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 00:49:16 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 07:41:49AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: From the CLI: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# telnet ftp.debian.org ftp Trying 130.207.7.21... Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. Escape character is '^]'. user anonymous [12:47am] [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet ftp.debian.org ftp Trying 130.207.7.21... Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. Escape character is '^]'. 220 santanni.cc.gatech.edu FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](4) Well, crap. What does your traceroute look like? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: Anyone know what is up with these two sites? ftp.debian.org appears to be refusing connections and ftp.us.debian.org looks like the daemon is there but inactive. :/ ftp.us.debian.org (debian.egr.msu.edu) had SCSI problems early today. An fsck did the job, and is now back in business! Thanks for your patience. Dennis -- Dennis Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] | phone: 353.4844 Network Admin, College of Engineering, MSU | pager: 222.5875 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, dpk wrote: ftp.us.debian.org (debian.egr.msu.edu) had SCSI problems early today. An fsck did the job, and is now back in business! Thanks for your patience. You know, I didn't even know we had an ftp.us.debian.org - could you possibly make the archive available via HTTP as well? Thanks, Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org mirroring at Sunsite
[ on European debian-mirrors ] Try: ftp.infomagic.com/pub/mirrors/linux/debian/dists/frozen/ Or in the Netherlands: ftp.nl.net/site/ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/ Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org mirroring at Sunsite
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Arunas Norvaisa wrote: Dear all, Does anybody of you know the reason why hamm/frozen is not mirrored at the mother-Sunsite and countless mirrors? It will be so much easier for European people to download the rought 300-350 MB of the distribution. Have wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this - no avail. It is on the UK sunsite. sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/debian(/dists/frozen) /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org status?
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Randy Edwards wrote: I finally got my Linux box back up after motherboard problems and so the first thing I wanted to do was to update my old copy of hamm. However, when I ran dselect to grab updates I find that the package lists from ftp.debian.org are mangled or bad and only list a few packages in them (for example, I don't think base is an obsolete package:-). Anyone know what's up with ftp.debian.org? Have the directories and/or status of hamm changed? Thanks in advance. Use frozen instead of unstable. This changed a few days ago. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org mirror
I always execute mirror -T blar blar blar to sync the timestamp before I do the actual mirror. Early this year, I lost 500MB because of timestamp difference. Timothy Phan wrote: Hi, I've been doing mirror of off the ftp.cdrom.com for a while now. Yesterday, I've just found out that this site was not up to today. So I started to mirror from the ftp.debian.org. I found out that there were a lot of files in the bo/ directory with difference in the timestamp. i.e. On my system, fileXYZ is at 3:00AM and on ftp.debian.org, the same would have 6:00AM. Most of them were about exactly 3 or 4 hours difference. The minutes, date and size were all the same. Anybody knows what is going? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftp.debian.org mirror
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] Timothy Phan wrote: : Hi, : : I've been doing mirror of off the ftp.cdrom.com for a while now. : Yesterday, I've just found out that this site was not up to today. : So I started to mirror from the ftp.debian.org. I found out that : there were a lot of files in the bo/ directory with difference in : the timestamp. i.e. On my system, fileXYZ is at 3:00AM and on : ftp.debian.org, the same would have 6:00AM. Most of them were about : exactly 3 or 4 hours difference. The minutes, date and size were all : the same. Anybody knows what is going? They are probably in different time zones. Run mirror once with -T, when you are switching source. Right, MartinS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftp.debian.org down?
George Bonser wrote: errr, make that 192.221.26.1 had too many IP addresses on this paper. On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote: My traceroute gets as far as gateway1.gatech.edu (208.153.128.135) and dies there. --- santanni.cc.gatech.edu ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 33% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 380.4/399.7/419.1 ms Yesterday we had some rough thunderstorms here in the metro Atlanta area (home of GA Tech and ftp.debian.org) I can see it now however, it lost 1 of 10 and min was 291 ms and max was 527 ms. At least ftp.debian.org is reachable. Right now, master.debian.org is down. -- Greg Vence | Debian GNU Linux KH2EA/4 | Diamond 2000 (7npw 4cpw) [EMAIL PROTECTED]| There is time for what's important -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftp.debian.org down?
My traceroute gets as far as gateway1.gatech.edu (208.153.128.135) and dies there. --- santanni.cc.gatech.edu ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 33% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 380.4/399.7/419.1 ms George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southwest Technology Development Institute New Mexico State University --- HP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ DBP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftp.debian.org down?
errr, make that 192.221.26.1 had too many IP addresses on this paper. On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote: My traceroute gets as far as gateway1.gatech.edu (208.153.128.135) and dies there. --- santanni.cc.gatech.edu ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 33% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 380.4/399.7/419.1 ms George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southwest Technology Development Institute New Mexico State University --- HP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ DBP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftp.debian.org down?
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote: getting no response from ftp.debian.org ... any estimated uptime? wildone# ping ftp.debian.org PING santanni.cc.gatech.edu (130.207.7.21): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 130.207.7.21: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=419.1 ms 64 bytes from 130.207.7.21: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=380.4 ms --- santanni.cc.gatech.edu ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 33% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 380.4/399.7/419.1 ms George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southwest Technology Development Institute New Mexico State University --- HP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ DBP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftp.debian.org
We recently decided to keep the master copy of the _entire_ WWW site on master.debian.org, rather than just a portion of it as previously. This meant that it would become very much larger. Rather than grow the mirror sites 300 MB, we moved it to its own separate directory. If you wish to mirror that directory, or a portion of it (which is probably more appropriate), you should be able to do so. Thanks Bruce
Re: ftp.debian.org
In article 9609200946.AA22964@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M.Dassen) writes: I maintain a mirror of ftp.debian.org for internal use (we've got several linux machines), however, the last several times I've started to run mirror its reported: compare directories (src 8356, dest 32957) I'm not too keen on letting 3/4 of the mirror get toasted, so I've killed the mirror before it could start its delete phase. After investigating a little, it seems that most of the missing files where in the WebPages hierarchy that is empty now. Is this the new policy or an accident or...? This is the new policy. Most FTP mirrors don't have any need for the webpages. I guess I don't mind the loss of the bug tracking system, I do mind this. These files have been available for a long time; so why was this changed overnight. (At least I didn't see any discussion.) Sven -- Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WWW : http://www.sax.de/~sr1/
Re: ftp.debian.org
I maintain a mirror of ftp.debian.org for internal use (we've got several linux machines), however, the last several times I've started to run mirror its reported: compare directories (src 8356, dest 32957) I'm not too keen on letting 3/4 of the mirror get toasted, so I've killed the mirror before it could start its delete phase. After investigating a little, it seems that most of the missing files where in the WebPages hierarchy that is empty now. Is this the new policy or an accident or...? This is the new policy. Most FTP mirrors don't have any need for the webpages. I guess I don't mind the loss of the bug tracking system, etc.. but the list archives were nice to have. You should still have the list archives in /debian/debian-lists (in mbox format instead of HTML). Hope this helps, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: ftp.debian.org
From: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone noticed that today ftp.debian.org is being particularly vicious about booting people from the server? Try debian.crosslink.net or one of the other mirrors. Ftp.debian.org is having some problems with running out of file descriptors, etc. We are working on the problem. Thanks Bruce
Re: ftp.debian.org problems
From: Martin Konold [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.) I do not hink it is a good idea to mount the /pub areas on a heavily used ftp server via nfs. (especially performace wise) This is currently done because of a hardware/driver problem. We'll get that resolved eventually. 2.) A lot of simple mirror scripts tend to delete the local copy of the files when they succed in connecting to the ftp server but find the directory empty. We suggest you use the same mirror script we use, and set it so that if more than 10% of files go away at once it won't delete them. We did have problems with debian.org - the system it was running on was taken away, and we had to put a system we never intended to be debian.org in its place. Our first priority now is to keep the mirror systems updated. Thanks Bruce
Re: ftp.debian.org problems
On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: We suggest you use the same mirror script we use, and set it so that if more than 10% of files go away at once it won't delete them. Which one do you use? Where to get it? 10% seems reasonable. We did have problems with debian.org - the system it was running on was taken away, and we had to put a system we never intended to be debian.org in its place. Our first priority now is to keep the mirror systems updated. Good point! Thanks for your tremendous work, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: ftp.debian.org problems
Martin Konold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: We suggest you use the same mirror script we use, and set it so that if more than 10% of files go away at once it won't delete them. Which one do you use? Where to get it? 10% seems reasonable. Isn't it the one in the Debian mirror package? -- Rob
Re: ftp.debian.org problems
The mirror system we use is in the Debian net/mirror-2.8-6.deb package. This is the well-known Perl mirror program. I think it requires Perl5 to run without great big memory leaks, but you should be able to take the debian source/net/mirror-2.8-6.tar.gz archive and move that to any platform that runs Perl. Thanks Bruce
Re: ftp.debian.org problems
Hallo Martin! } We suggest you use the same mirror script we use, and set it so that if } more than 10% of files go away at once it won't delete them. } }Which one do you use? Where to get it? 10% seems reasonable. It is the mirror program that is shipped with Debian, mirror 2.8 from Lee McLaughlin in Camebridge. As I told you, just ad a line similar to the following into your configuration file. max_delete_files=20% Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only / / proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth /
