Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
Le 14934ième jour après Epoch, Dotan Cohen écrivait: If it's running in a shell, then I agree that it is no bother (doesn't use any memory or CPU). However, if it is a GUI app who's window is still stuck on the screen, then something ought to be done to get rid of that window! xkill is your friend. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877hg53buz@fermat.tourde.home
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
xkill is your friend. or kill -9
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
Roman Khomasuridze wrote: xkill is your friend. or kill -9 But OP said he tried that and it did not help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ice4no$is...@dough.gmane.org
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
Hugo Vanwoerkom schreef: Roman Khomasuridze wrote: xkill is your friend. or kill -9 But OP said he tried that and it did not help. Try to kill the parent process. If it doesn't have a parent process, then it is unkillable. It uses no recourses, so usually it is not a problem. Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom schreef: Roman Khomasuridze wrote: xkill is your friend. or kill -9 But OP said he tried that and it did not help. Try to kill the parent process. If it doesn't have a parent process, then it is unkillable. It uses no recourses, so usually it is not a problem. But OP said that it had the CPU pegged, so indeed a reboot is the only way to solve this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ice7on$4h...@dough.gmane.org
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:03:19 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom schreef: Roman Khomasuridze wrote: xkill is your friend. or kill -9 But OP said he tried that and it did not help. Try to kill the parent process. If it doesn't have a parent process, then it is unkillable. It uses no recourses, so usually it is not a problem. But OP said that it had the CPU pegged, so indeed a reboot is the only way to solve this. You can't kill the dead (it's not my phrase, read bellow...) :-) Linux Tips / Zombies http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/zombies.html Summarizing: (...) You have three choices: Fix the parent process (make it wait); kill the parent; or live with it. Remember that living with it is not so hard because zombies take up little more than one extra line in the output of ps. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.22.17.14...@gmail.com
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, François TOURDE wrote: The zombie process don't use any resources in general. No need to reboot at this point, because nothing is wrong. Right. I can't see how the OP's process is a zombie as a zombie won't consume CPU (or any other resource). It exists solely to hand back the exit code to the parent when it can. On some case, nevertheless, I remember that there can be a kernel problem, or a device driver one. The process was killed during a blocking IO, so it is marked as Z until IO finished. If the IO could not stop, or is on a CPU consuming loop, there is no other way than reboot. I think you'll find such a process would be in state 'D'. Sometimes processes in state D can get stuck and indeed be unkillable. Cheers, Rob -- Email: rob...@timetraveller.org Linux counter ID #16440 IRC: Solver (OFTC Freenode) Web: http://www.practicalsysadmin.com Contributing member of Software in the Public Interest (http://spi-inc.org/) Open Source: The revolution that silently changed the world -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.1.10.1011221315330.13...@castor.opentrend.net
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
Robert Brockway rob...@timetraveller.org writes: On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, François TOURDE wrote: The zombie process don't use any resources in general. No need to reboot at this point, because nothing is wrong. Right. I can't see how the OP's process is a zombie as a zombie won't consume CPU (or any other resource). It exists solely to hand back the exit code to the parent when it can. It is likely that the OP did not understand that the CPU usage stats reported by ps(1) is the percentage of time spent running during the entire lifetime of the process [1][2]. The zombie was not using CPU while it was a zombie - as you state. [1] ps(1) man page [2] Recent ubuntu-user post by Carl Smoot-Mitchell (in response to this same question) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e24.4ceaf64b.5f...@getafix.xdna.net
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
Dne, 21. 11. 2010 11:17:47 je Arthur Bela napisal(a): I found out that the gnome-system-monitor would kill any processes I otherwise don't know how to kill. Since gnome-system-monitor can do it, I guess it can be done with kill or top too, you probably just have to try hard enough. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1290335523.2929...@compax
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:17, Arthur Bela jozsi.avad...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to: kill -9 3341 but it's still there, and it's using 100% cpu :\ I only tried to download a few linux iso's, so i can seed them back a couple of times [about ~20 at a time :O ] but transmission just freezez I tried to log out, and log in, when i log back, it's still there :O only when i reboot my pc...only then it will dissapear.. Is there a way to kill that process? Thank you :O $ pkill transmission -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=q=rjfhmq4dfop4e0kutadaotokytm9e0uy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
Not really an answer, but I disliked transmission. I've had far better luck with qbittorrent Just a thought TeddyB -Original Message- From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:50:13 To: Arthur Belajozsi.avad...@gmail.com Cc: Debian User Mailing listdebian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: how to kill a process that is defunct? On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:17, Arthur Bela jozsi.avad...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to: kill -9 3341 but it's still there, and it's using 100% cpu :\ I only tried to download a few linux iso's, so i can seed them back a couple of times [about ~20 at a time :O ] but transmission just freezez I tried to log out, and log in, when i log back, it's still there :O only when i reboot my pc...only then it will dissapear.. Is there a way to kill that process? Thank you :O $ pkill transmission -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=q=rjfhmq4dfop4e0kutadaotokytm9e0uy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
It's a zombie process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process -- Old timer, n.: One who remembers when charity was a virtue and not an organization. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ce8fb55.2090...@kalinowski.com.br
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:58, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br wrote: It's a zombie process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process Eduardo's right, it's a zombie. I didn't look at the output that was in the screenshot, but now that I did I see the Z in the stats column. Killall -9 or reboot at that point. Next time, please just paste the output, don't use a screenshot. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin8ttd8z7z2r-s4tkr6dbiuauhcychsesabt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
Le 14934ième jour après Epoch, Dotan Cohen écrivait: On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:58, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br wrote: It's a zombie process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process Eduardo's right, it's a zombie. I didn't look at the output that was in the screenshot, but now that I did I see the Z in the stats column. Killall -9 or reboot at that point. What??? Why killall or reboot? The zombie process don't use any resources in general. No need to reboot at this point, because nothing is wrong. On some case, nevertheless, I remember that there can be a kernel problem, or a device driver one. The process was killed during a blocking IO, so it is marked as Z until IO finished. If the IO could not stop, or is on a CPU consuming loop, there is no other way than reboot. But it's in my old memories, maybe it's not so precise, or obsolete. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87zkt23jv3@fermat.tourde.home
Re: how to kill a process that is defunct?
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 15:08, François TOURDE fra...@tourde.org wrote: What??? Why killall or reboot? The zombie process don't use any resources in general. No need to reboot at this point, because nothing is wrong. If it's running in a shell, then I agree that it is no bother (doesn't use any memory or CPU). However, if it is a GUI app who's window is still stuck on the screen, then something ought to be done to get rid of that window! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimus727d+xs8hezgxgadfpbdyxfvbc88fzvy...@mail.gmail.com
