Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-10-07 Thread Michael Fothergill
This package won't work in Debian testing, the reason being that
xfce-theme-manager is built against libxfce4ui-1-0 (= 4.11.0), and
testing only has version 4.10.0 of this library ATM.

Out of interest, once Jessie has been frozen and then becomes stable would
this package be upgraded to 4.11.0 or greater?

Regards

Michael Fothergill


On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi.

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 02:14:42PM +0100, Michael Fothergill wrote:
  Dear Debian folks,
 
  I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian
 Jessie on an AMD 64 box).
 
  I found a web site
 
 
 https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra
 
  where there appeared to be some packages that may may not work in debian
 (perhaps better used in e.g. ubuntu).

 This package won't work in Debian testing, the reason being that
 xfce-theme-manager is built against libxfce4ui-1-0 (= 4.11.0), and
 testing only has version 4.10.0 of this library ATM.


  On this website, which was dealing with e.g. xubuntu not debian the
 commands recommended to install it were:
 
  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff
  sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get install xfce-theme-manager
 
  I think the reason it may not be working in my case is that I don't know
 what the correct equivalent of
 
  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff
 
  would be for a debian user.

 That's Ubuntu way of saying 'Please add this line to
 /etc/apt/sources-list.d:

 deb https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive ubuntu

 But, since this package won't do you any good anyway - don't bother.
 Just rebuild it from the source, and install it conventional way.

 Reco


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Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-10-07 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 16:28:52 +0100
Michael Fothergill michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote:

 This package won't work in Debian testing, the reason being that
 xfce-theme-manager is built against libxfce4ui-1-0 (= 4.11.0), and
 testing only has version 4.10.0 of this library ATM.
 
 Out of interest, once Jessie has been frozen and then becomes stable would
 this package be upgraded to 4.11.0 or greater?

This is one of the things that they don't tell to a simple Debian user
such as me.

According to [1], the required version of libxfce4ui-1-0 is in
experimental currently.

So, it has a chance to enter sid, then testing before Jessie freeze.
This chance is slim at best, as there's a single month left before the
freeze.


[1]
https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=namessuite=allsection=allsourceid=mozilla-searchkeywords=libxfce4ui-1-0

Reco


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Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-10-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[please don't top-post, it makes it difficult to follow who said what]

On Ma, 07 oct 14, 16:28:52, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 
 Out of interest, once Jessie has been frozen and then becomes stable would
 this package be upgraded to 4.11.0 or greater?

Not exactly sure what you're asking, but maybe this will explain it:

- according to the Release Team policy for this freeze Jessie will 
  contain the versions migrated to testing before the freeze[1]

- after Jessie is release the gates to unstable are opened for new 
  (major) versions, then it will only require a Maintainer willing to 
  invest the time ;)

[1] of course it may happen that minor versions and/or Debian version 
get increased to fix RC bugs, but for your particular case if 4.11.x has 
migrated to testing it will be included in Jessie.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Fothergill
I have tried to use Xfce Theme Manager before, and all it did was
screw up my Xfce setup. It changed a lot of things I didn't want
changed, a I had to manually revert all of it. I don't recommend it.
--
Steven Rosenberg

Thanks for the help anyway.

Michael Fothergill





On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Steven Rosenberg 
stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Michael Fothergill
 michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote:
  I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian
 Jessie
  on an AMD 64 box).


 I have tried to use Xfce Theme Manager before, and all it did was
 screw up my Xfce setup. It changed a lot of things I didn't want
 changed, a I had to manually revert all of it. I don't recommend it.
 --
 Steven Rosenberg
 http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog
 http://blogs.dailynews.com/click
 stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com
 ste...@stevenrosenberg.net



Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-30 Thread Michael Fothergill
If you want something which is not in the repositories you have to compile
it.

I downloaded the theme manager tarfile and then had a go at compiling it.

I have tried a few times now and I always seem to get a segmentation fault
when I try to run the program.

I think I have installed all the packages needed to compile it.

Here is the compilation output:root@trombone:/tmp/Xfce-Theme-Manager-0.3.5#
./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local/bin
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: warning: source file
'../src/callbacks.cpp' is in a subdirectory,
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/Makefile.am:3:   'Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources'
included from here
automake: warning: possible forward-incompatibility.
automake: At least a source file is in a subdirectory, but the
'subdir-objects'
automake: automake option hasn't been enabled.  For now, the corresponding
output
automake: object file(s) will be placed in the top-level directory.
However,
automake: this behaviour will change in future Automake versions: they will
automake: unconditionally cause object files to be placed in the same
subdirectory
automake: of the corresponding sources.
automake: You are advised to start using 'subdir-objects' option throughout
your
automake: project, to avoid future incompatibilities.
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: warning: source file '../src/cli.cpp'
is in a subdirectory,
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/Makefile.am:3:   'Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources'
included from here
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: warning: source file
'../src/database.cpp' is in a subdirectory,
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/Makefile.am:3:   'Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources'
included from here
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: warning: source file
'../src/globals.cpp' is in a subdirectory,
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/Makefile.am:3:   'Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources'
included from here
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: warning: source file '../src/gui.cpp'
is in a subdirectory,
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/Makefile.am:3:   'Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources'
included from here
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: warning: source file '../src/main.cpp'
is in a subdirectory,
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/Makefile.am:3:   'Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources'
included from here
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: warning: source file
'../src/panels.cpp' is in a subdirectory,
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/Makefile.am:3:   'Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources'
included from here
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: warning: source file
'../src/thumbnails.cpp' is in a subdirectory,
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources:1: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/Makefile.am:3:   'Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/../sources'
included from here
checking for g++... g++
checking whether the C++ compiler works... yes
checking for C++ compiler default output file name... a.out
checking for suffix of executables...
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking whether make supports nested variables... yes
checking dependency style of g++... gcc3
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking whether gcc understands -c and -o together... yes
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for GTK... yes
checking for GLIB... yes
checking for GTHREAD... yes
checking for XCURSOR... yes
checking for XFCE4UI... yes
checking for XFCONF... yes
checking for unzip... true
checking that generated files are newer than configure... done
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating Xfce-Theme-Manager/app/Makefile
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: executing 

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Fabrice Vaillant


On 29/09/2014 09:14, Michael Fothergill wrote:

Dear Debian folks,

I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian 
Jessie on an AMD 64 box).


I found a web site

https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra 
https://launchpad.net/%7Erebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra


where there appeared to be some packages that may may not work in 
debian (perhaps better used in e.g. ubuntu).


I downloaded the ones that seemed relevant and tried using aptitude to 
install them but it did not work.


I also noticed another web site

https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra 
https://launchpad.net/%7Erebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra


On this website, which was dealing with e.g. xubuntu not debian the 
commands recommended to install it were:


sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install xfce-theme-manager

I think the reason it may not be working in my case is that I don't 
know what the correct equivalent of


sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff

would be for a debian user.

If it isn't possible to make the repository work in debian at present 
I could try installing from a tar file instead.


Maybe that is what I should be doing here..

Please excuse my ignorance here.

Suggestions on this are most welcome.

I really like this wallpaper item

http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Slygen+3+No+Logo+%281920x1200%29?content=166192

Regards

Michael Fothergill



Hi
I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you tried 
following the instruction described here https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce?


Fabrice Vaillant


Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
Hi
I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you tried
following the instruction described here https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce?

Thank you for your reply

I already have xfce installed.

But I assumed (maybe I am wrong) that

xfce-theme-manager - 0.3.5-1

is not automatically installed along with it and so I would have to
separately install it.
















On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Fabrice Vaillant fa.vaill...@gmail.com
wrote:


 On 29/09/2014 09:14, Michael Fothergill wrote:

Dear Debian folks,

  I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian
 Jessie on an AMD 64 box).

  I found a web site


 https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra
 https://launchpad.net/%7Erebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

  where there appeared to be some packages that may may not work in debian
 (perhaps better used in e.g. ubuntu).

  I downloaded the ones that seemed relevant and tried using aptitude to
 install them but it did not work.

  I also noticed another web site


 https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra
 https://launchpad.net/%7Erebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

  On this website, which was dealing with e.g. xubuntu not debian the
 commands recommended to install it were:

 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get install xfce-theme-manager

 I think the reason it may not be working in my case is that I don't know
 what the correct equivalent of

 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff

  would be for a debian user.

  If it isn't possible to make the repository work in debian at present I
 could try installing from a tar file instead.

  Maybe that is what I should be doing here..

  Please excuse my ignorance here.

  Suggestions on this are most welcome.

  I really like this wallpaper item


 http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Slygen+3+No+Logo+%281920x1200%29?content=166192

  Regards

  Michael Fothergill


 Hi
 I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you tried
 following the instruction described here https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce?

 Fabrice Vaillant



Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Fabrice Vaillant

Oh, then I am afraid you misunderstood.
I would sugest building it from source as indicated here 
http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=149647.



On 29/09/2014 10:24, Michael Fothergill wrote:

Hi
I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you 
tried following the instruction described here 
https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce?


Thank you for your reply

I already have xfce installed.

But I assumed (maybe I am wrong) that

xfce-theme-manager - 0.3.5-1

is not automatically installed along with it and so I would have to 
separately install it.

















On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Fabrice Vaillant 
fa.vaill...@gmail.com mailto:fa.vaill...@gmail.com wrote:



On 29/09/2014 09:14, Michael Fothergill wrote:

Dear Debian folks,

I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running
Debian Jessie on an AMD 64 box).

I found a web site


https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

https://launchpad.net/%7Erebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

where there appeared to be some packages that may may not work in
debian (perhaps better used in e.g. ubuntu).

I downloaded the ones that seemed relevant and tried using
aptitude to install them but it did not work.

I also noticed another web site


https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

https://launchpad.net/%7Erebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

On this website, which was dealing with e.g. xubuntu not debian
the commands recommended to install it were:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install xfce-theme-manager

I think the reason it may not be working in my case is that I
don't know what the correct equivalent of

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff

would be for a debian user.

If it isn't possible to make the repository work in debian at
present I could try installing from a tar file instead.

Maybe that is what I should be doing here..

Please excuse my ignorance here.

Suggestions on this are most welcome.

I really like this wallpaper item


http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Slygen+3+No+Logo+%281920x1200%29?content=166192

Regards

Michael Fothergill



Hi
I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you
tried following the instruction described here
https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce?

Fabrice Vaillant






Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 02:14:42PM +0100, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 Dear Debian folks,
 
 I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian Jessie 
 on an AMD 64 box).
 
 I found a web site
 
 https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra
 
 where there appeared to be some packages that may may not work in debian 
 (perhaps better used in e.g. ubuntu).

This package won't work in Debian testing, the reason being that
xfce-theme-manager is built against libxfce4ui-1-0 (= 4.11.0), and
testing only has version 4.10.0 of this library ATM.


 On this website, which was dealing with e.g. xubuntu not debian the commands 
 recommended to install it were:
 
 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get install xfce-theme-manager
 
 I think the reason it may not be working in my case is that I don't know what 
 the correct equivalent of
 
 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff
 
 would be for a debian user.

That's Ubuntu way of saying 'Please add this line to
/etc/apt/sources-list.d:

deb https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive ubuntu

But, since this package won't do you any good anyway - don't bother.
Just rebuild it from the source, and install it conventional way.

Reco


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Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
Oh, then I am afraid you misunderstood.
I would sugest building it from source as indicated here
http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=149647.

I will go ahead and do that.

Thank you very much for the advice.  It's not always obvious which packages
you can use apt with and which you have to compile.

The ubuntu and xubuntu sites make you think you could apt but you can't
quite do it yet...

Regards


Michael

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Michael Fothergill 
michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Oh, then I am afraid you misunderstood.
 I would sugest building it from source as indicated here
 http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=149647.

 I will go ahead and do that.

 Thank you very much for the advice.  It's not always obvious which
 packages you can use apt with and which you have to compile.

 The ubuntu and xubuntu sites make you think you could apt but you can't
 quite do it yet...

 Regards

 Michael








 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Fabrice Vaillant fa.vaill...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Oh, then I am afraid you misunderstood.
 I would sugest building it from source as indicated here
 http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=149647.



 On 29/09/2014 10:24, Michael Fothergill wrote:

 Hi
 I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you tried
 following the instruction described here https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce?

  Thank you for your reply

  I already have xfce installed.

  But I assumed (maybe I am wrong) that

 xfce-theme-manager - 0.3.5-1

  is not automatically installed along with it and so I would have to
 separately install it.
















 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Fabrice Vaillant fa.vaill...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 On 29/09/2014 09:14, Michael Fothergill wrote:

Dear Debian folks,

  I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian
 Jessie on an AMD 64 box).

  I found a web site


 https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra
 https://launchpad.net/%7Erebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

  where there appeared to be some packages that may may not work in
 debian (perhaps better used in e.g. ubuntu).

  I downloaded the ones that seemed relevant and tried using aptitude to
 install them but it did not work.

  I also noticed another web site


 https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra
 https://launchpad.net/%7Erebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

  On this website, which was dealing with e.g. xubuntu not debian the
 commands recommended to install it were:

 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get install xfce-theme-manager

 I think the reason it may not be working in my case is that I don't know
 what the correct equivalent of

 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rebuntu16/other-stuff

  would be for a debian user.

  If it isn't possible to make the repository work in debian at present I
 could try installing from a tar file instead.

  Maybe that is what I should be doing here..

  Please excuse my ignorance here.

  Suggestions on this are most welcome.

  I really like this wallpaper item


 http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Slygen+3+No+Logo+%281920x1200%29?content=166192

  Regards

  Michael Fothergill


  Hi
 I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you tried
 following the instruction described here https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce?

 Fabrice Vaillant







Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 29 September 2014 16:29:48 Michael Fothergill wrote:
 It's not always obvious which packages
 you can use apt with and which you have to compile.

You can use apt with packages which are in the repositories.  You can find 
this out with aptitude search or equivalent or by looking on 
https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

If you want something which is not in the repositories you have to compile it.

It makes a difference which repositories you have available.  See: 
/etc/apt/sorces.list
Use cat or an editor.

Lisi


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