Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes:

 On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:06:30PM +0200, lee wrote:
 Having that said, alsa doesn't fully work in that the microphone input
 of the on-board sound card is dead ever since audacious did something to
 it. Pulseaudio won't fix that, and better don't ever run audacious ...

 Start a new thread, and no doubt someone will be able to help fix the
 problems with your microphone input.

 The start a new thread request always kills the discussion. Let's see
 what happens when I make a new one out of this ...

 Hint: many people are probably running audacious *and* successfully
 using their microphone.

 I don't think it's fixable.
Sure it is. You even say it used to work. So unless that part of the
chip physically failed, it can be fixed.

 This on-board card shows up in lspci as
 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF100 High Definition Audio
 Controller and is recognised fine by alsa. Sound output of that card
 works, and I can turn up the mixer settings for the microphone all I
 want and there is no input whatsoever from the mic. I have another card
 installed and the same mic works with the additional card, so the
 problem is not the mic. It used to work before I did something with
 audacious which gave me a warning that it might not be a good idea --- I
 don't remember what that was. Since then, the mic input of the card is
 dead and I don't use audacious anymore. Any ideas how to fix this?

Can you post the sound card info from lspci -v (PCI ID, etc) ? And
please post the contents (if an) of /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc.

I believe you said you are not using PA, are you also not using
any other sound server, like Jack or the ancient aRts or ESD?


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:43:21 +0200
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:

Hello lee,

problem is not the mic. It used to work before I did something with
audacious which gave me a warning that it might not be a good idea --- I
don't remember what that was. Since then, the mic input of the card is
dead and I don't use audacious anymore. Any ideas how to fix this?

If audacious said it wasn't a good idea, could it be because it was
possible it would kill the mic i/p of the card?

It might be possible to find someone that can fault find the card and
repair it, but it's probably cheaper to simply replace the card.

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Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:43:21 +0200
 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:

 Hello lee,

problem is not the mic. It used to work before I did something with
audacious which gave me a warning that it might not be a good idea --- I
don't remember what that was. Since then, the mic input of the card is
dead and I don't use audacious anymore. Any ideas how to fix this?

 If audacious said it wasn't a good idea, could it be because it was
 possible it would kill the mic i/p of the card?

 It might be possible to find someone that can fault find the card and
 repair it, but it's probably cheaper to simply replace the card.

Sounds like it is the Nvidia onboard HDA chip, not a card...
I have my doubts that it is that easy to actually fry the mic input...

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 13:54:47 -0700
Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Kelly,

Sounds like it is the Nvidia onboard HDA chip, not a card...

Probably;  I've not been following the thread too closely.

I have my doubts that it is that easy to actually fry the mic input...

So do I but, if it was flaky to begin with, you never know.

If it does prove to be a h/w fault, it's probably still cheaper to get a
new mobo.   :-(

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Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk writes:

 On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:43:21 +0200
 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:

 Hello lee,

problem is not the mic. It used to work before I did something with
audacious which gave me a warning that it might not be a good idea --- I
don't remember what that was. Since then, the mic input of the card is
dead and I don't use audacious anymore. Any ideas how to fix this?

 If audacious said it wasn't a good idea, could it be because it was
 possible it would kill the mic i/p of the card?

That's why I don't run audacious anymore. I don't like software that may
take out the hardware just like that. When you could still damage
monitors with the frequencies set too high, you at least knew what might
happen, and they didn't break immediately :)

 It might be possible to find someone that can fault find the card and
 repair it, but it's probably cheaper to simply replace the card.

It's the on-board card, so I would have to replace the whole
mainboard. These on-board cards suck anyway ...


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Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com writes:

 On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:

 This on-board card shows up in lspci as
 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF100 High Definition Audio
 Controller and is recognised fine by alsa. Sound output of that card
 works, and I can turn up the mixer settings for the microphone all I
 want and there is no input whatsoever from the mic. I have another card
 installed and the same mic works with the additional card, so the
 problem is not the mic. It used to work before I did something with
 audacious which gave me a warning that it might not be a good idea --- I
 don't remember what that was. Since then, the mic input of the card is
 dead and I don't use audacious anymore. Any ideas how to fix this?

 Can you post the sound card info from lspci -v (PCI ID, etc) ? And
 please post the contents (if an) of /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc.


, [lspci -v ]
| 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF100 High Definition Audio 
Controller (rev a1)
| Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device 079f
| Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
| Memory at fea7c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
| Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
| Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
| Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
| Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
`


There is no /etc/asound.conf and no ~/.asoundrc.


 I believe you said you are not using PA, are you also not using
 any other sound server, like Jack or the ancient aRts or ESD?

Nope, alsa only, no sound servers.


,
| lee@yun:~$ lsmod |grep snd
| snd_hrtimer12604  1 
| snd_hda_codec_hdmi 30783  4 
| snd_hda_codec_realtek   188797  1 
| snd_hda_intel  26345  0 
| snd_usb_audio  84836  0 
| snd_usbmidi_lib23420  1 snd_usb_audio
| snd_cmipci 32712  2 
| snd_hda_codec  78031  3 
snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi
| snd_mpu401_uart13507  1 snd_cmipci
| snd_opl3_lib   17445  1 snd_cmipci
| snd_pcm_oss41081  0 
| snd_mixer_oss  17916  1 snd_pcm_oss
| snd_hwdep  13186  3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_usb_audio
| snd_pcm63900  7 
snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_codec,snd_cmipci,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_hdmi
| snd_page_alloc 13003  2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
| snd_seq_midi   12848  0 
| snd_seq_midi_event 13316  1 snd_seq_midi
| snd_rawmidi23060  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_usbmidi_lib
| snd_seq45093  3 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi
| snd_seq_device 13176  4 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_midi,snd_opl3_lib
| snd_timer  22917  5 snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_hrtimer
| snd52850  20 
snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm_oss,snd_opl3_lib,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_hda_codec,snd_cmipci,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi
| gameport   13561  1 snd_cmipci
| soundcore  13065  1 snd
| usbcore   128498  9 
ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd,usbhid,btusb,uvcvideo,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_usb_audio
| lee@yun:~$ 
`


The USB stuff is loaded because there's a webcam connected that has a
built-in mic (which I don't use).


,
| lee@yun:~$ aplay -L
| null
| Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
| default:CARD=CMI8738
| C-Media CMI8738, C-Media PCI DAC/ADC
| Default Audio Device
| sysdefault:CARD=CMI8738
| C-Media CMI8738, C-Media PCI DAC/ADC
| Default Audio Device
| front:CARD=CMI8738,DEV=0
| C-Media CMI8738, C-Media PCI DAC/ADC
| Front speakers
| rear:CARD=CMI8738,DEV=0
| C-Media CMI8738, C-Media PCI 2nd DAC
| Rear speakers
| surround40:CARD=CMI8738,DEV=0
| C-Media CMI8738, C-Media PCI 2nd DAC
| 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
| surround41:CARD=CMI8738,DEV=0
| C-Media CMI8738, C-Media PCI 2nd DAC
| 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
| surround50:CARD=CMI8738,DEV=0
| C-Media CMI8738, C-Media PCI 2nd DAC
| 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
| surround51:CARD=CMI8738,DEV=0
| C-Media CMI8738, C-Media PCI 2nd DAC
| 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
| iec958:CARD=CMI8738,DEV=0
| C-Media CMI8738, C-Media PCI DAC/ADC
| IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
| default:CARD=SB
| HDA ATI SB, ALC889 Analog
| Default Audio Device
| sysdefault:CARD=SB
| HDA ATI SB, ALC889 Analog
| Default Audio Device
| front:CARD=SB,DEV=0
| HDA ATI SB, ALC889 Analog
| Front speakers
| surround40:CARD=SB,DEV=0
| HDA ATI SB, ALC889 Analog
| 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
| surround41:CARD=SB,DEV=0
| HDA ATI SB, ALC889 Analog
| 4.1 Surround output