Re: Re: problem with display breaking up
What is the video hardware in the system? There may be useful bug information. Bruce -- === Bruce Ward, Nelson, New Zealand -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5598b3d6.8070...@orcon.net.nz
Re: problem with display breaking up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 11:21:45PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Martin Read wrote: On 02/07/15 16:08, Bob Bernstein wrote: Why are such persons even allowed to operate linux equipment? Because in order to still be for us, software freedom has to be for everyone. But surely you can't mean literally everyone, yes? FWIW I understood it as said. And IMHO he's spot-on Just cast a glance at the group of characters who frequent this email list. I see every sort of dubious personality trait [...] My feeling sometimes too -- but: your cranks are not the same as my cranks (and perhaps I'm a crank to you and/or viceversa). So who gets to decide? Best is not to judge, but each one decides for herself how much help one is willing to offer (burning out isn't productive either). The only exception I'd admit is when there's broad consensus that someone is disrupting the whole thing. Use *very* carefully, though -- you might fall into mob rule. Live and let live. - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlWWJbAACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaMxQCcC6kjWlLlG/qLoNmJyGl9XaUT 8z8An2+j+wbDHdo5oaAio1HKFTdmT8H/ =353V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150703060328.ga25...@tuxteam.de
Re: problem with display breaking up
On 03/07/15 04:21, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Martin Read wrote: Because in order to still be for us, software freedom has to be for everyone. But surely you can't mean literally everyone, yes? To a first approximation? Sure. Just cast a glance at the group of characters who frequent this email list. I see every sort of dubious personality trait represented here, from outright antisocials to obvious dropouts from the neighborhood community mental health clinics. Whether I agree with your assessment of those people or not, they still deserve software freedom. Because if it is not for them, then one day it might not be for us, either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/559663a5.9080...@zen.co.uk
Re: problem with display breaking up
On Thursday 02 July 2015 01:16:02 David Christensen wrote: On 07/01/2015 01:54 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: A client is reporting the following problem: The break up of the picture always occurs after I have just logged in and then click the mouse cursor onto an icon such as icedove or iceweasel When clicking the mouse on an icon eg.for icedove or iceweasel, the picture fragments sometimes. We have more or less excluded the monitor. File corruption is not unlikely, given that he has been handling a mouse problem by turning the computer off at the wall. The computer eventually failed to boot, but that has been fixed with an fsck. I have fsck'ed every partition on the hard drive. Do I try installing another video card? But it feels like a software problem. So where next? The mouse problem has been fixed by using a different usb port. I have googled and got nowhere. Any ideas where next, please. Try a new video card to eliminate it as a possible cause? And have video card driver problems. :-( I would: 1. Backup data and system configuration settings. 2. Take an image of the system drive. 3. Test the power supply with a hardware power supply tester. 4. Test the RAM with BIOS, memtest86+, etc.. 5. Test the hard disk and/or solid state drive(s) with bootable manufacturer's diagnostic utilities disc(s). 6. Remove the system drive and install another. 7. Test and wipe the new system drive. 8. Install Debian Wheezy and desired applications. 9. Restore data and/or system configuration settings. Thanks, David, for all these ideas. Hopefully, for now the owner is about to test using a different DE, since we have established that it always happens when launching applications after log-in, so could be DE related. Thank goodness he is now using ctrl-alt-delete rather than the switch on the wall. This started as: My computer's died. I need a new computer. So we are progressing. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201507021056.23785.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: problem with display breaking up
On 02/07/15 16:08, Bob Bernstein wrote: Why are such persons even allowed to operate linux equipment? Because in order to still be for us, software freedom has to be for everyone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55955ee2.8060...@zen.co.uk
Re: problem with display breaking up
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: This started as: My computer's died. I need a new computer. Why are such persons even allowed to operate linux equipment? They probably let him vote too! Oh well... -- These are not the droids you are looking for. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/nycvar.QRO.7.75.3.1507021106280.1546@arjgebyy.ybpnyqbznva
Re: problem with display breaking up
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Martin Read wrote: On 02/07/15 16:08, Bob Bernstein wrote: Why are such persons even allowed to operate linux equipment? Because in order to still be for us, software freedom has to be for everyone. But surely you can't mean literally everyone, yes? Just cast a glance at the group of characters who frequent this email list. I see every sort of dubious personality trait represented here, from outright antisocials to obvious dropouts from the neighborhood community mental health clinics. This herd ought to be seriously thinned before it is permitted to touch a serious piece of networked equipment. Imagine what could go wrong! OMG. One's blood curdles. Besides, a drastically reduced population could only help poor bedraggled Mother Earth, and we are all still for helping the Earth, yes? -- Man is essentially a dreamer, wakened sometimes for a moment by some peculiarly obtrusive element in the outer world, but lapsing again quickly into the happy somnolence of imagination. Freud has shown how largely our dreams at night are the pictured fulfilment of our wishes; he has, with an equal measure of truth, said the same of day-dreams; and he might have included the day-dreams which we call beliefs. Russell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/nycvar.QRO.7.75.3.1507022307400.1546@arjgebyy.ybpnyqbznva
Re: problem with display breaking up
On Wednesday 01 July 2015 22:25:52 Joe wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 22:03:30 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 01 July 2015 09:54:00 Lisi Reisz wrote: A client is reporting the following problem: The break up of the picture always occurs after I have just logged in and then click the mouse cursor onto an icon such as icedove or iceweasel More info: The picture break up problem only occurs after log-in.Once I have successfully got into icedove or iceweasle I have no further problems navigating anywhere. Any ideas? I'd first settle the hardware/software issue with a live CD of some kind, my preference, as you know, being Knoppix. I'd guess it's software, but you can waste a lot of time barking up the wrong tree. Eliminate the easy stuff first. Thanks, Joe. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201507012300.26311.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: problem with display breaking up
On Wednesday 01 July 2015 09:54:00 Lisi Reisz wrote: A client is reporting the following problem: The break up of the picture always occurs after I have just logged in and then click the mouse cursor onto an icon such as icedove or iceweasel When clicking the mouse on an icon eg.for icedove or iceweasel, the picture fragments sometimes. We have more or less excluded the monitor. File corruption is not unlikely, given that he has been handling a mouse problem by turning the computer off at the wall. The computer eventually failed to boot, but that has been fixed with an fsck. I have fsck'ed every partition on the hard drive. Do I try installing another video card? But it feels like a software problem. So where next? The mouse problem has been fixed by using a different usb port. I have googled and got nowhere. Any ideas where next, please. Try a new video card to eliminate it as a possible cause? And have video card driver problems. :-( Lisi More info: The picture break up problem only occurs after log-in.Once I have successfully got into icedove or iceweasle I have no further problems navigating anywhere. Any ideas? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201507012203.30467.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: problem with display breaking up
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 22:03:30 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 01 July 2015 09:54:00 Lisi Reisz wrote: A client is reporting the following problem: The break up of the picture always occurs after I have just logged in and then click the mouse cursor onto an icon such as icedove or iceweasel More info: The picture break up problem only occurs after log-in.Once I have successfully got into icedove or iceweasle I have no further problems navigating anywhere. Any ideas? I'd first settle the hardware/software issue with a live CD of some kind, my preference, as you know, being Knoppix. I'd guess it's software, but you can waste a lot of time barking up the wrong tree. Eliminate the easy stuff first. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150701222552.71d03...@jresid.jretrading.com
Re: problem with display breaking up
On 07/01/2015 01:54 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: A client is reporting the following problem: The break up of the picture always occurs after I have just logged in and then click the mouse cursor onto an icon such as icedove or iceweasel When clicking the mouse on an icon eg.for icedove or iceweasel, the picture fragments sometimes. We have more or less excluded the monitor. File corruption is not unlikely, given that he has been handling a mouse problem by turning the computer off at the wall. The computer eventually failed to boot, but that has been fixed with an fsck. I have fsck'ed every partition on the hard drive. Do I try installing another video card? But it feels like a software problem. So where next? The mouse problem has been fixed by using a different usb port. I have googled and got nowhere. Any ideas where next, please. Try a new video card to eliminate it as a possible cause? And have video card driver problems. :-( I would: 1. Backup data and system configuration settings. 2. Take an image of the system drive. 3. Test the power supply with a hardware power supply tester. 4. Test the RAM with BIOS, memtest86+, etc.. 5. Test the hard disk and/or solid state drive(s) with bootable manufacturer's diagnostic utilities disc(s). 6. Remove the system drive and install another. 7. Test and wipe the new system drive. 8. Install Debian Wheezy and desired applications. 9. Restore data and/or system configuration settings. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/559482c2.3050...@holgerdanske.com
