Re: qpopper weirdness

2001-04-05 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Nathan Ollerenshaw (on Thu, 05 Apr 2001 11:45:18AM +0100):
> Yeah, qpopper does that. Try running it in "server" mode (I forget the
> correct switch) or switch to cucipop which doesn't play around with the
> mailbox so much.

tried both, but with no success. so i ended up converting the site to
Maildir storage and am now serving POP3 and IMAP with a combination of
spop3d (solid POP3 daemon) and courier-imap. works fine.

thanks for all your help!

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Re: qpopper weirdness

2001-04-05 Thread Nathan Ollerenshaw
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, MaD dUCK wrote:

> hey,
> i am using qpopper for pop3 access. one of my users hasn't been
> reading mail in two weeks, and now her mailbox is 16Mb. that's not a
> lot, no. however, she uses microcrap software, which is not succeeding
> at downloading whereas a direct POP3 interaction with the server
> through netcat revealed that it was working. however, whenever a user
> logs in through POP, the following happens:

Yeah, qpopper does that. Try running it in "server" mode (I forget the
correct switch) or switch to cucipop which doesn't play around with the
mailbox so much.

Nathan.

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Re: qpopper weirdness

2001-04-04 Thread Nate Amsden
MaD dUCK wrote:
> 
> also sprach Nathan E Norman (on Wed, 04 Apr 2001 03:03:39PM -0500):
> > I never had any major problems with cucipop.  There are two caveats:
> 
> well, for the sake of fixing this promptly, i went ahead and replaced
> qpopper with cucipop. however, now there is a 20 second delay between
> the user entering the password in the POP3 session over netcat, and
> the log line

probably the fault of the mailbox format(?). i run a few qpopper servers
but haven't used pop3 in years so i never noticed the delay, i just
tested it on a dual p2-233 384MB system with qpopper 3.0.2 on a debian
2.1(slink) system and it took about 12 seconds to login with 4,870 messages
in the inbox. i tried another login on my new ultra fast systems running
cyrus imap and cyrus pop and with my inbox with 866 messages login
was less then 1 second on a dual p3-800 512MB.

cyrus is reaaly fast but its not friendly to local mail
checking(e.g. with pine or mutt or whatever) you have to point
your client to the IMAP or pop server and login to it(which
pine and mutt can do but its not as convienent). and its
more secure from sleepy typers like me(one time last year
i was cleaning my home dir and typed rm -rf * on accident
and wiped out years worth of non backed up email -- yes i
don't backup..maybe someday i will ..)

i highly reccomend cyrus though. its lightning fast. 

nate

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Re: qpopper weirdness

2001-04-04 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Nathan E Norman (on Wed, 04 Apr 2001 03:03:39PM -0500):
> I never had any major problems with cucipop.  There are two caveats:

well, for the sake of fixing this promptly, i went ahead and replaced
qpopper with cucipop. however, now there is a 20 second delay between
the user entering the password in the POP3 session over netcat, and
the log line

Apr  4 16:02:11 localhost cucipop[6561]: Opened madduck's mailbox

on the server. but this time there is no copying going on. just
precisely 20 seconds. makes me want to think it's PAM or something
along the lines of authentication... no other log revealed anything
though.

???

ps:

> 1) cucipop always leaves a zombie process laying around.  I haven't
> dug through the code but this strikes me as odd.

this is commented by the author in the INSTALL file where he claims
that this is for performance purposes. whatever, i can deal...

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