Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My understanding is that later kernels (2.6.12 or later, I think) needs a newer udev. Good point, but I had hoped that that would have been taken care of by the backport. I gave this advice to the OP because he had been trying for a while to insert 2.4 alsa-modules in a 2.6 kernel, or 2.6.15 modules in his standard Sarge kernel. Following Sid myself, I could not check if this approach actually works. I would appreciate it if anyone has more info; I unfortunately never got any feedback from the OP. Yeah, I'm not sure how it works anymore. When I used backports (back in Woody), it did pull everything in. But they have reorganized the pool directory, so I'm not sure how it would work (used to be you would put something like kernel-2.6 to pull in all the kernel-2.6 related packages). -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
John L Fjellstad wrote: Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the easiest solution is to upgrade to a newer kernel which includes snd-hda-intel. For Sarge you will need a special backported version. These are available at http://www.backports.org/package.php?search=linux-image-2.6 ... to install a 2.6.15 kernel on your system. After you boot into that kernel you should be able to load the snd-hda-intel module and udev should create /dev/audio; maybe this will even happen automatically. Then alsaconf should do be able to do the rest. My understanding is that later kernels (2.6.12 or later, I think) needs a newer udev. Good point, but I had hoped that that would have been taken care of by the backport. I gave this advice to the OP because he had been trying for a while to insert 2.4 alsa-modules in a 2.6 kernel, or 2.6.15 modules in his standard Sarge kernel. Following Sid myself, I could not check if this approach actually works. I would appreciate it if anyone has more info; I unfortunately never got any feedback from the OP. Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the easiest solution is to upgrade to a newer kernel which includes snd-hda-intel. For Sarge you will need a special backported version. These are available at http://www.backports.org/package.php?search=linux-image-2.6 ... to install a 2.6.15 kernel on your system. After you boot into that kernel you should be able to load the snd-hda-intel module and udev should create /dev/audio; maybe this will even happen automatically. Then alsaconf should do be able to do the rest. My understanding is that later kernels (2.6.12 or later, I think) needs a newer udev. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
thanks, right but in my case 2.6.8 there is no snd-hda-intel.ko dpkg -S snd-hda-intel.ko dpkg : *snd-hda-intel.ko* not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux debian21 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux best regards __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
Þann 2006-03-11, 04:47:40 (-0800) skrifaði belahcene abdelkader: thanks, right but in my case 2.6.8 there is no snd-hda-intel.ko dpkg -S snd-hda-intel.ko dpkg : *snd-hda-intel.ko* not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux debian21 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux best regards Try searching for snd-hda-intel instead. I dont know when the change from .o to .ko was made, maby that is confusing your dpkg -S search. Allso apt-file search for snd-hda-intel shows this module to be in the 2.4.27-2 kernel and the 2.6.12 and 2.6.14 kernels. Dont see why it should not be in the 2.6.8. Oli -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
Olafur Jens Sigurdsson wrote: Þann 2006-03-11, 04:47:40 (-0800) skrifaði belahcene abdelkader: [snip] I dont know when the change from .o to .ko was made, maby that is confusing your dpkg -S search. .o was used in 2.4.x kernels, and .ko in 2.6.x. Justin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
belahcene abdelkader wrote: thanks, right but in my case 2.6.8 there is no snd-hda-intel.ko dpkg -S snd-hda-intel.ko dpkg : *snd-hda-intel.ko* not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux debian21 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux best regards Support for the Intel HDA was added to the 2.6 kernel after version 2.6.8, therefore you cannot find it in a standard Sarge installation. I have suggested this already in the previous thread which you started about your problems with sound, but maybe I did not make myself clear enough, so I'll try again: I think the easiest solution is to upgrade to a newer kernel which includes snd-hda-intel. For Sarge you will need a special backported version. These are available at http://www.backports.org/package.php?search=linux-image-2.6 To install a backported kernel, you have to add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main and the following three lines to your /etc/apt/preferences (create this file if it does not exist): Package: * Pin: release a=sarge-backports Pin-Priority: 200 After that you can use apt-get update apt-get -t sarge-backports install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 to install a 2.6.15 kernel on your system. After you boot into that kernel you should be able to load the snd-hda-intel module and udev should create /dev/audio; maybe this will even happen automatically. Then alsaconf should do be able to do the rest. Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
Hi, alsaconf gave an error when it configured the snd-hda-intel , error inserting snd-hda-intel, unknown symbol in module snd-hda-intel , but it continued and printed successful the message have a lot fun!!! ??? and what is the relation with /dev/audio ?? In fact I copied theses modules *.ko from another machine, and put them in the same place, which has exactly same caracteristique ( same kernel 2.6.8-2-386), because 2.6.8 doesn't contain the modules I compile it on another machine from the alsa-source. On the original machine it is working. thanks for help bela best regards __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 01:14:09 -0800 (PST) belahcene abdelkader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, alsaconf gave an error when it configured the snd-hda-intel , error inserting snd-hda-intel, unknown symbol in module snd-hda-intel , well, as far as I know, that error means your module is not compatible despite your claims below. try recompiling it with the exact same kernel it will run on. (that is, do it on the same machine). A pgpI0iWWxLj8b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
but it continued and printed successful the message have a lot fun!!! ??? and what is the relation with /dev/audio ?? No loaded audio modules, no /dev/audio device. In fact I copied theses modules *.ko from another machine, and put them in the same place, which has exactly same caracteristique ( same kernel 2.6.8-2-386), because 2.6.8 doesn't contain the modules I compile it on another machine from the alsa-source. On the original machine it is working. Why did you copy the modules? Those modules are provided by the linux-image package. [ atrus ]$ dpkg -S snd-hda-intel.ko linux-image-2.6.12-1-686: /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko [ atrus ]$ You should reinstall your linux-image package and install alsa-base and alsa-utils. thanks for help bela best regards np, jorge -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
belahcene abdelkader wrote: hi, I installed the 2.6.8 kernel ( I hadn't this problem wiyth 2.4 ), and also the alsa-package for my sound card hda-intel, There is no sound, because neither /dev/audio, nor /dev/dsp ? what is the requirements for udev to create an audio device ? how to tell the udev to creat the device ?? thanks for help bela Is snd-hda-intel loaded? jorge -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev doesn't creat /dev/audio
From: belahcene abdelkader [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi, I installed the 2.6.8 kernel ( I hadn't this problem wiyth 2.4 ), and also the alsa-package for my sound card hda-intel, There is no sound, because neither /dev/audio, nor /dev/dsp ? what is the requirements for udev to create an audio device ? how to tell the udev to creat the device ?? thanks for help bela I would start with reading the documents for udev, you will need a more recent kernel, unless they patched it recently. Also their are some bug reports that address this problem. Just search google groups for audio and dsp and you should find the relevant posts. Gnu_Raiz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
