Re: vbox sid invalid mcookie

2011-07-23 Thread Cousin Stanley

Liam O'Toole wrote:

> I think something is broken in the terminal emulator. 
> 
> You are able to launch gnome-terminal itself 
> (presumably from the menu or the Alt-F2 dialog), 

  Yes  
 
gnome-terminal  menu // Alt-F2
lxterminal  desktop icon // Alt-F2
xterm . desktop icon // Alt-F2


> but then something within that environment 
> is causing your problem. 
>
> I suggest you try launching from xterm. 
>

  xterm  no change, display problem persists

  $ xdpyinfo
unable to open display "0:0"

  

  There is no problem launching X applications
  from the gnome menu, desktop icons, or Alt-F2  

  Attempts to launch X apps from either of 3 different
  terminal apps fails 


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Re: vbox sid invalid mcookie

2011-07-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-07-22, Cousin Stanley  wrote:
>
> Liam O'Toole wrote 
>
>>> gdm should create .Xauthority for you, 
>>> without the need to manually do the xauth stuff. 
>
>  That's what I thought too
>  after reading the xauth man page  
>
>"Normally xauth is not used 
> to create the authority file entry
> in the first place;  the program
> that starts the  X  Server
> ( often xdm or startx ) does that."
>
>   However, testing in this particular context
>   doesn't provide either a new .Xauthority
>   file if one doesn't exist in my home dir
>   and doesn't provide an entry in an emply
>   .Xauthority file if I first create one 
>   via touch  
>
>   I just re-tested to make sure  
>
> o delete ~/.Xautority
> o reboot or logout to restart X no difference
> o A new .Xauthority file is not created
> o No entries are added 
>   to an empty .Xauthority file
>
>   However, with an empty .Xauthority file
>   there is no invalid-magic-cookie message,
>   but disply // X server connection problems  
>
> $ xdpyinfo
> No protocol specified
> unable to open display ":0.0"
>
> $ opera
> No protocol specified
> cannot connect to X server :0.0
> Connection refused
>
> $ gimp
> 
> No protocol specified
> Cannot open display
>
>>> You are talking about starting applications f
>>> from a terminal emulator such as gnome-terminal, 
>>> and not from the console, right ?
>
>   Right.
>
>   The tests I just listed above
>   were done using gnome terminal 
>
>   If I now manually use xauth
>   to add the magic cookies into
>   an emplty .Xauthority file,
>   then they float up as invalid 
>   whenever I try to start programs
>   as above  

I think something is broken in the terminal emulator. You are able to
launch gnome-terminal itself (presumably from the menu or the Alt-F2
dialog), but then something within that environment is causing your
problem. I suggest you try launching from xterm. If it works there,
compare the output of the 'env' command in the two terminals.

>
>   Perhaps if the X server display problem
>   is first straightened out then the xauth
>   magic cookie problem will fall into place 
>   
>   Perhaps not  
>
>   Thanks a lot for the help and feedback  
>
>   I really appreciate it 
>

No problem. Hope it helps.

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Re: vbox sid invalid mcookie

2011-07-22 Thread Cousin Stanley

Liam O'Toole wrote 

>> gdm should create .Xauthority for you, 
>> without the need to manually do the xauth stuff. 

 That's what I thought too
 after reading the xauth man page  

   "Normally xauth is not used 
to create the authority file entry
in the first place;  the program
that starts the  X  Server
( often xdm or startx ) does that."

  However, testing in this particular context
  doesn't provide either a new .Xauthority
  file if one doesn't exist in my home dir
  and doesn't provide an entry in an emply
  .Xauthority file if I first create one 
  via touch  

  I just re-tested to make sure  

o delete ~/.Xautority
o reboot or logout to restart X no difference
o A new .Xauthority file is not created
o No entries are added 
  to an empty .Xauthority file

  However, with an empty .Xauthority file
  there is no invalid-magic-cookie message,
  but disply // X server connection problems  

$ xdpyinfo
No protocol specified
unable to open display ":0.0"

$ opera
No protocol specified
cannot connect to X server :0.0
Connection refused

$ gimp

No protocol specified
Cannot open display

>> You are talking about starting applications f
>> from a terminal emulator such as gnome-terminal, 
>> and not from the console, right ?

  Right.

  The tests I just listed above
  were done using gnome terminal 

  If I now manually use xauth
  to add the magic cookies into
  an emplty .Xauthority file,
  then they float up as invalid 
  whenever I try to start programs
  as above  

  Perhaps if the X server display problem
  is first straightened out then the xauth
  magic cookie problem will fall into place 
  
  Perhaps not  

  Thanks a lot for the help and feedback  

  I really appreciate it 

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Re: vbox sid invalid mcookie

2011-07-19 Thread Cousin Stanley

Liam O'Toole wrote:

> That strongly suggests that the problem lies within the sid guest. 
> 
> How do you start X there? Usually one would use startx or a display manager,
> launch a terminal within the session, and launch programs from the
> terminal at will.

  I'm using gnome 2.30.2 and login through a gui
  so X must be started via gdm  

  I've had this vbox sid guest on the same host
  for over 2 years and have had a few expected
  odd problems with sid that have eventually
  been fixed  

  Until about a month ago I could always launch programs
  from the terminal at will until this invalid magic cookie
  problem began  


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Re: vbox sid invalid mcookie

2011-07-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-07-18, Cousin Stanley  wrote:
>
> Cousin Stanley wrote :
>
>>> Using a debian squeeze host for a Virtual Box 4.0.12
>>> debian sid guest, about a month ago I started having
>>> invalid magic cookie problems when trying to do 
>>> anything X related from a terminal  
>
> Liam O'Toole replied :
>
>> Are you running applications 
>> entirely within the Virtual Box guest ? 
>
>   Yes, just using it as a test-bed for sid
>   and for a few packages that are not in squeeze.
>  
>> Or trying to forward output 
>> to the host display ? 
>
>   No, although I might want to try that
>   in the future 
>
>
>   I can ssh & scp from the sid guest
>   to the squeeze host  
>
>   However, if I  ssh -Y  to the squeeze host
>   I get the invalid magic cookie message
>   the same as only trying to start a local 
>   X program from the terminal in the sid guest  
>
>   X forwarding is enabled in the squeeze host,
>   and I can  ssh -Y  into the host
>   from ArchLinux and Ubuntu guests
>   also under VirtualBox on the same host 
>   without problems  
>
>

That strongly suggests that the problem lies within the sid guest. How
do you start X there? Usually one would use startx or a display manager,
launch a terminal within the session, and launch programs from the
terminal at will.

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Re: vbox sid invalid mcookie

2011-07-18 Thread Cousin Stanley

Cousin Stanley wrote :

>> Using a debian squeeze host for a Virtual Box 4.0.12
>> debian sid guest, about a month ago I started having
>> invalid magic cookie problems when trying to do 
>> anything X related from a terminal  

Liam O'Toole replied :

> Are you running applications 
> entirely within the Virtual Box guest ? 

  Yes, just using it as a test-bed for sid
  and for a few packages that are not in squeeze.
 
> Or trying to forward output 
> to the host display ? 

  No, although I might want to try that
  in the future 


  I can ssh & scp from the sid guest
  to the squeeze host  

  However, if I  ssh -Y  to the squeeze host
  I get the invalid magic cookie message
  the same as only trying to start a local 
  X program from the terminal in the sid guest  

  X forwarding is enabled in the squeeze host,
  and I can  ssh -Y  into the host
  from ArchLinux and Ubuntu guests
  also under VirtualBox on the same host 
  without problems  


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Re: vbox sid invalid mcookie

2011-07-18 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-07-17, Cousin Stanley  wrote:
>
>   Using a debian squeeze host for a Virtual Box 4.0.12
>   debian sid guest, about a month ago I started having
>   invalid magic cookie problems when trying to do 
>   anything X related from a terminal  

(...)

Are you running applications entirely within the Virtual Box guest? Or
trying to forward output to the host display? Or something else?

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