Re: virtual terminals become unusable when starting x on sid
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:38:16PM +, navaja wrote: hi, i boot up, and get command prompt login. can use all vitual termninals. then i start x, with startx (with login manager i get the same problem). x starts, then i try to go back to a virtual terminal, and all i see is messed up lines going down my screen. video driver? kernel module(s) where applicable? framebuffer for vts? -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual terminals become unusable when starting x on sid
navaja wrote: hi, i boot up, and get command prompt login. can use all vitual termninals. then i start x, with startx (with login manager i get the same problem). x starts, then i try to go back to a virtual terminal, and all i see is messed up lines going down my screen. thanks And what happens if you then go back to X (alt-ctrl-F7) and back again to the virtual terminal? Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual terminals become unusable when starting x on sid
on Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:38:16PM +, navaja ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: hi, i boot up, and get command prompt login. can use all vitual termninals. then i start x, with startx (with login manager i get the same problem). x starts, then i try to go back to a virtual terminal, and all i see is messed up lines going down my screen. You need to provide more information. I'd very strongly recommend you read the following excellent essay by Simon Tatham, How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html The essay How To Ask Questions The Smart Way by Eric S. Raymond and Rick Moen essay is is also good: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Please note that you are the person in the best position to know what you're trying to do, what you've done, how the system's responded, and generally how it's configured. It's very helpful if you can post: - *Exact* commands or steps tried. - *Exact* error output or log messages. Often, entering the error messages into a good search engine such as AlltheWeb (http://www.alltheweb.com/) or Google (http://www.google.com/) will help set you on the road to resolving your problems. While others can offer suggestions, guidance, and experience, we cannot see into either your mind or your machine's state. This is very much a case of you have to help us help you. Good luck. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? The truth behind the H-1B IT indentured servant scam: http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.real.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: virtual terminals
The file you probably want is /etc/inittab. the lines in my (unstable) setup that control the virtual terminals are: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 But notice that only tty1 is started if I am in run level 5. I just migrated to Debian myself. Just installing the x-windows-systems metapackage and kdm caused the kdm manager to launch and switch to what would be virtual terminal 7. BUT I AM STILL IN RUN LEVEL 2!! (I think. at least thats the default run level from inittab.) So what may have happened is that you may be more use to the RedHat way of doing things and you may have edited /etc/inittab to fire up at runlevel 5 the way RedHat gets X going. If you've done this then you accidentally disabled the other virtual terminals. I didn't have to change anything in /etc/inittab. My basic installation runs at runlevel 2 and launchs the graphical login manager with the same results as RedHat's system. - Jeff On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 22:02, dm wrote: Ok quick question, my girlfriend's system after installing a display manager (gdm, xdm, or kdm) only starts one virtual terminal. This was awhile ago when she was in testing, now she is in unstable, this has been bothering her for a while now, and I would like to fix it, what config file do I need to change. Thank you in advance, dm. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: virtual terminals
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 08:52, Jeff Wiegley wrote: The file you probably want is /etc/inittab. the lines in my (unstable) setup that control the virtual terminals are: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 But notice that only tty1 is started if I am in run level 5. I just migrated to Debian myself. Just installing the x-windows-systems metapackage and kdm caused the kdm manager to launch and switch to what would be virtual terminal 7. BUT I AM STILL IN RUN LEVEL 2!! (I think. at least thats the default run level from inittab.) So what may have happened is that you may be more use to the RedHat way of doing things and you may have edited /etc/inittab to fire up at runlevel 5 the way RedHat gets X going. If you've done this then you accidentally disabled the other virtual terminals. I didn't have to change anything in /etc/inittab. My basic installation runs at runlevel 2 and launchs the graphical login manager with the same results as RedHat's system. - Jeff On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 22:02, dm wrote: Ok quick question, my girlfriend's system after installing a display manager (gdm, xdm, or kdm) only starts one virtual terminal. This was awhile ago when she was in testing, now she is in unstable, this has been bothering her for a while now, and I would like to fix it, what config file do I need to change. Thank you in advance, dm. Debian unlike redhat doesn't have a different runlevel for graphical login. Debian uses runlevel 2 by default and if xdm/gdm/kdm/... are installed it uses them. If you wan't to change this behaviour the place to look would be /etc/inittab The default is 6 terminals no matter if X login is enabled, so it has either been changed or something else is a problem, can you post the file? Wasn't completely clear, from the message is the only terminal the X login or is there another text terminal. Just in case, you are aware that to switch between X and a regular terminal you need Alt-Ctrl-Fterm num and between regulat terminals Alt-Fterm num. On the lines as appearing above in /etc/inittab make sure that the number 2 appears between the first and second : characters (where marked) for each terminal you want to enable. v 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 And make sure that the default runlevel is actually set to 2 as follows: id:2:initdefault: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual terminals
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 11:27:44PM -0800, Alexander Poquet wrote: hey folks. i was just wondering about virtual terms -- is there an easy way to change how many there are? debian seems to default at 6 running getty, and X opens up 7. presumably i can use as many as 12? how does this work? is it as simple as running getty from init, or is there a kernel definition somewhere that specifies how many i can have, or a little of both? is there some documentation on the subject somewhere? -- Alexander Poquet| We leave the obvious generalizations to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]| reader. -- Israel Herstein Use of PGP preferable in reply | Use Linux! I think up until kernel 1.1.54 you had to recompile to change the number of virtual consoles. Now you can just add a line in /etc/inittab: 8:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty8 This will give you another console on cntrl-alt-f8 after a reboot. Be careful using tty7 to avoid an X conflict--I don't know what would happen if getty and X both tried to use the same device. There's a huge number of tty's available (try ls /dev/tty*), but I suppose you're limited to 12, one for each of the F keys.
Re: virtual terminals
on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 01:07:06AM -0700, Jed Strauss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 11:27:44PM -0800, Alexander Poquet wrote: hey folks. i was just wondering about virtual terms -- is there an easy way to change how many there are? debian seems to default at 6 running getty, and X opens up 7. presumably i can use as many as 12? how does this work? is it as simple as running getty from init, or is there a kernel definition somewhere that specifies how many i can have, or a little of both? is there some documentation on the subject somewhere? -- Alexander Poquet| We leave the obvious generalizations to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]| reader. -- Israel Herstein Use of PGP preferable in reply | Use Linux! I think up until kernel 1.1.54 you had to recompile to change the number of virtual consoles. Now you can just add a line in /etc/inittab: 8:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty8 This will give you another console on cntrl-alt-f8 after a reboot. Be careful using tty7 to avoid an X conflict X launches to the first unoccupied VT if one isn't explicitly specified. --I don't know what would happen if getty and X both tried to use the same device. Things get ugly. Fast. There's a huge number of tty's available (try ls /dev/tty*), 64 by default. You can compile in more if you need them. but I suppose you're limited to 12, one for each of the F keys. Nope. man chvt Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpNVqSGPFxn7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: virtual terminals
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 11:27:44PM -0800, Alexander Poquet wrote: hey folks. i was just wondering about virtual terms -- is there an easy way to change how many there are? debian seems to default at 6 running getty, and X opens up 7. presumably i can use as many as 12? how does this work? is it as simple as running getty from init, or is there a kernel definition somewhere that specifies how many i can have, or a little of both? is there some documentation on the subject somewhere? Edit /etc/inittab Continue adding lines, just change the two outside numbers. # Format: # id:runlevels:action:process 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 To continue with tty9 - 9:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty9 See man inittab hth, kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: Virtual terminals
On: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:21:37 +0100 (BST) M C Vernon writes: Dear all, How can I address more than 6 vts? I have X installed, and it usually runs on altf7, but when it's running, I get Warning: dev (03:03) tty-count(1) != #fd's(2) in do_tty_hangup Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035 X will always use the next free virtual terminal. Just edit your /etc/inittab file and search for the block: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 Now just add lines like: 7:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty7 8:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty8 9:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty9 10:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty10 11:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty11 to create 5 additional virtual terminals. Make sure that at least one is free for starting X. I have seen the error you mentioned above but don't know the reason for it. Torsten -- Whenever a system becomes completely defined, some damn fool discovers something which either abolishes the system or expands it beyond recognition. Fortune Cookie PGP Public key available -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Terminals Greater Than tty8.
What was the command line for your mknod for each one? mknod tty9 c 4 9 mknod tty10 c 4 10 mknod tty11 c 4 11 etc. Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Terminals Greater Than tty8.
I just did mknod to create tty9 through tty12. Everything seems to be working fine, but I thought I would just check to make sure those vt's weren't disabled for a reason. Thanks Paul You can even go to tty24! To switch, hit LEFT ALT-(F1 - F12) for the first 12, RIGHT ALT-(F1-F12) for the upper 12. I have two dos sessions started automatically on tty23 and tty24 for a DOS based BBS telnet. Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Siliconvalley/Park/6562/ -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Virtual Terminals Greater Than tty8.
On Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:01:15 EST Adam Heath ([EMAIL PROTECTED] g) wrote: I just did mknod to create tty9 through tty12. Everything seems to be working fine, but I thought I would just check to make sure those vt's weren't disabled for a reason. You can even go to tty24! To switch, hit LEFT ALT-(F1 - F12) for the first 12, RIGHT ALT-(F1-F12) for the upper 12. I have two dos sessions started automatically on tty23 and tty24 for a DOS based BBS telnet. I've even go further: you can go up to 64 !!! To switch, use ALT-right arrow and ALT-left-arrow. No more direct access for ttys 24. :-) Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Terminals Greater Than tty8.
On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Adam Heath wrote: I just did mknod to create tty9 through tty12. Everything seems to be working fine, but I thought I would just check to make sure those vt's weren't disabled for a reason. You can even go to tty24! To switch, hit LEFT ALT-(F1 - F12) for the first 12, RIGHT ALT-(F1-F12) for the upper 12. I have two dos sessions started automatically on tty23 and tty24 for a DOS based BBS telnet. I've always wondered what the right alt was for. Thanks Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Terminals Greater Than tty8.
On Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:30:56 CST ugs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I just did mknod to create tty9 through tty12. Everything seems to be working fine, but I thought I would just check to make sure those vt's weren't disabled for a reason. No, no problem with it. Go ahead. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
