Re: where is xwindows in debian potato rev6
Hi, On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 08:11:00PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 10:37:56AM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote: I strongly recommend you to read http://www.debian.org http://www.debian.org/doc and links http://www.debian.org/distrib/ http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst Most documents you mention advise to get a cd-set of Debian for a first time install. Are you reading English version? I thought I and Josip had few e-mail exchanges and Josip updated contents to reduce this impression. If you find some misleading web pages, please let us know in debian-www or send me a message detailing issues. For someone new it's nice to know they can format their drives and start all over when something (anything) goes wrong. Apt and deselect are really great, but it does take some trial and error to find that out. True. I can not argue with this. But should not they start with net-install CD image. 3 full CD images are too much. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki @ Cupertino CA USA See User's Guide: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/ See Debian reference: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ Debian reference Project at: http://qref.sf.net I welcome your constructive criticisms and corrections. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is xwindows in debian potato rev6
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 11:24:02PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote: I strongly recommend you to read http://www.debian.org http://www.debian.org/doc and links http://www.debian.org/distrib/ http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst Most documents you mention advise to get a cd-set of Debian for a first time install. Are you reading English version? I thought I and Josip had few e-mail exchanges and Josip updated contents to reduce this impression. If you find some misleading web pages, please let us know in debian-www or send me a message detailing issues. For someone new it's nice to know they can format their drives and start all over when something (anything) goes wrong. Apt and deselect are really great, but it does take some trial and error to find that out. True. I can not argue with this. But should not they start with net-install CD image. 3 full CD images are too much. I downloaded the first CD image, not all three of them. To answer your question I went back to the documents I used to install the system. There is no explicit advise to download complete ISOs. It's either buying cds or downloading the netinstall. You are right about that. I just thought the netinstall was too scary. I was using Windows and wanted to install Debian. I made bootfloppies and mounted the ISO from my Windows-partition. Got the base system running, installed pppoe and Lynx and the rest is history. Since I wasn't sure I could get anything to work (i.e. network), I knew I had at least access to the different packages. In hindsight perhaps not the smartest move, everything worked like a charm. But if it didn't it would have been awful to boot into Windows for new software or information available on the internet (rinse, wipe, repeat). To be honest, I would propably do it again :). I think a lot of people who come to Debian for the first time start out as lusers and then quickly become users. Perhaps the available information regarding the install doesn't reflect that. Bob pgpm09iBOPv8E.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: where is xwindows in debian potato rev6
For someone new it's nice to know they can format their drives and start all over when something (anything) goes wrong. Apt and deselect are really great, but it does take some trial and error to find that out. True, I tried four times and then I got intuition that if I change the lines in source to file:/mnt/debina ... it will do. ( I was not having cd drive on my pc but I had dumped everthing to dos partition ) --kunal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: where is xwindows in debian potato rev6
OOps, this is waiste of bandwidth. You must be ex-REDHAT variant user. Bingo, how did you know that ... :-) --kunal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is xwindows in debian potato rev6
Hi, * Kunal Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-08 19:10]: And then, I booted from dosutils and installed everything with apt-setup( I changed the source to file:/mnt/debian/disk1 potato main/contrib etc. ) But now, it has not installed xwindows. Where is xwindows in debian potato rev6? I'm not sure about the exact name, but you can always find the packages you need with: apt-cache search whatyouarelookingfor It also did not install pine, fetchmail, iptables, squid, sendmail etc. Do I have to download tar.gz packages for these utilities or there are deb files available. This is easily remedied: apt-get install mutt fetchmail iptables squid postfix (oops) Thorsten -- When a thing has been said and said well, have no scruple. Take it and copy it. - Anatole France -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is xwindows in debian potato rev6
I strongly recommend you to read http://www.debian.org http://www.debian.org/doc and links http://www.debian.org/distrib/ http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 06:10:06PM +0100, Kunal Shah wrote: Hi List, I recently downloaded Debian Potato Distribution in 3 cds. OOps, this is waiste of bandwidth. You must be ex-REDHAT variant user. You only need few foppies (I do it with 2) to install potato. Download only package you use. If you upgrade to testing which is very stable now, you will not use 99% of what you downloaded. I dumped everything into three directories in dos partition C:\debian\disk1, c:\debian\disk2 and c:\debian\disk3 And then, I booted from dosutils and installed everything with apt-setup( I changed the source to file:/mnt/debian/disk1 potato main/contrib etc. ) Well this is one way :) But now, it has not installed xwindows. ^ No s needed. That's for M$. Because you did not select it. # dselect update # tasksel And select related items such as X window. Where is xwindows in debian potato rev6? It also did not install pine, fetchmail, iptables, squid, sendmail etc. Do I have to download tar.gz packages for these utilities or there are deb files available. Also dselect is good start to find package. # dselect There is almost nothing which is not packaged for Debian but you need to track testing or unstable if you want latest. Somewhat tricky but doable. Read my doc below. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki @ Cupertino CA USA See User's Guide: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/ See Debian reference: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ Debian reference Project at: http://qref.sf.net I welcome your constructive criticisms and corrections. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is xwindows in debian potato rev6
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 10:37:56AM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote: I strongly recommend you to read http://www.debian.org http://www.debian.org/doc and links http://www.debian.org/distrib/ http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 06:10:06PM +0100, Kunal Shah wrote: Hi List, I recently downloaded Debian Potato Distribution in 3 cds. OOps, this is waiste of bandwidth. You must be ex-REDHAT variant user. You only need few foppies (I do it with 2) to install potato. Download only package you use. If you upgrade to testing which is very stable now, you will not use 99% of what you downloaded. Most documents you mention advise to get a cd-set of Debian for a first time install. For someone new it's nice to know they can format their drives and start all over when something (anything) goes wrong. Apt and deselect are really great, but it does take some trial and error to find that out. Bob pgpVrvlBmI5f6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: where is xwindows in debian potato rev6
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 08:11:00PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 10:37:56AM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 06:10:06PM +0100, Kunal Shah wrote: Hi List, I recently downloaded Debian Potato Distribution in 3 cds. OOps, this is waiste of bandwidth. You must be ex-REDHAT variant user. You only need few foppies (I do it with 2) to install potato. Download only package you use. If you upgrade to testing which is very stable now, you will not use 99% of what you downloaded. Most documents you mention advise to get a cd-set of Debian for a first time install. Certainly CDs are convenient, but it's preferable not to get them by downloading the lot. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
