Re: which is at fault? iceweasel or drupal?
On 01/31/2011 12:36 AM, Russell L. Harris wrote: * Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.b...@iguanasuicide.net [110131 04:12]: In20110130220014.ga2...@rlharris.org, Russell L. Harris wrote: Occasionally while browsing with iceweasel, the machine slows to a crawl and the processor usage (as displayed by system monitor) stays at 100 percent. Almost always, this happens when browsing a web site which uses drupal as its engine. ... If the Drupal site is yours, you might view the source and see if you and simplify it. If not, probably just have to deal with it or use a different or newer browser. It is not my site; at this point I have no intention of trying drupal again. But I installed Konqueror (I am running Gnome) and discovered that Konqueror does not exhibit this effect. So for that web site (and perhaps for everything else), I now plan to use Konqueror. A link to a site you are having trouble with would be useful. -- The normal condition of mankind is tyranny and misery. Milton Friedman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d505b4d.7090...@cox.net
Re: which is at fault? iceweasel or drupal?
Russell L. Harris, 1.02.2011: * Camaleón noela...@gmail.com [110201 00:45]: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:00:14 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: Run top and sort by CPU usage to find the culprit. Three instances of gtk-gnash are at the head of the list, followed by Xorg and gnome-terminal. There's an iceweasel extension called Flashblock that doesn't run flash/gnash without you clicking to okay it. You can install it as a package, called xul-ext-flashblock, or you may get it from the iceweasel Tools menu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110206231736.ga27...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: which is at fault? iceweasel or drupal?
* Camaleón noela...@gmail.com [110201 00:45]: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:00:14 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: Run top and sort by CPU usage to find the culprit. Three instances of gtk-gnash are at the head of the list, followed by Xorg and gnome-terminal. Drupal per se cannot be the culprit. It's quite wide and plenty of modules. Most probably is that a concrete combination of some scripting or DOM techniques used within the portal is giving headaches to your browser. Modern (and the most up-to-date) browsers tend to handle better such situations. Firefox/Iceweasel is misbehaving again, on other sites; this is in Squeeze RC1. perhaps my Firefox installation is broken. But now that I have discovered Konqueror, I may tell apt-get to remove Firefox; life is too short to mess around with a problematic package when there is a good alternative. Regards, RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110201090918.gb2...@rlharris.org
Re: which is at fault? iceweasel or drupal?
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:09:18 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: * Camaleón [110201 00:45]: Run top and sort by CPU usage to find the culprit. Three instances of gtk-gnash are at the head of the list, followed by Xorg and gnome-terminal. Gnash means your browser is running a flash movie/animation and that indeed can hog your CPU or that the plugin went nuts. Try by disabling it. Drupal per se cannot be the culprit. It's quite wide and plenty of modules. Most probably is that a concrete combination of some scripting or DOM techniques used within the portal is giving headaches to your browser. Modern (and the most up-to-date) browsers tend to handle better such situations. Firefox/Iceweasel is misbehaving again, on other sites; this is in Squeeze RC1. perhaps my Firefox installation is broken. You can try to start with an empty Firefox profile. But I'd say that is not an uncommon behaviour, many of us suffer from that, every day... But now that I have discovered Konqueror, I may tell apt-get to remove Firefox; life is too short to mess around with a problematic package when there is a good alternative. Just note that konqueror is not very well welcomed in some websites ;-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.01.19.46...@gmail.com
Re: which is at fault? iceweasel or drupal?
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:00:14 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: Occasionally while browsing with iceweasel, the machine slows to a crawl and the processor usage (as displayed by system monitor) stays at 100 percent. Almost always, this happens when browsing a web site which uses drupal as its engine. Run top and sort by CPU usage to find the culprit. I have experienced this phenomenon with Etch, Lenny, and Squeeze, and on various machines. Because of a previous experience in which drupal appears to have given vandals access to my web site, I suspect that the culprit is drupal; but perhaps the combination of iceweasel and drupal has a synergstic effect for the worse. Drupal per se cannot be the culprit. It's quite wide and plenty of modules. Most probably is that a concrete combination of some scripting or DOM techniques used within the portal is giving headaches to your browser. Modern (and the most up-to-date) browsers tend to handle better such situations. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.31.12.13...@gmail.com
Re: which is at fault? iceweasel or drupal?
Russell L. Harris wrote: Occasionally while browsing with iceweasel, the machine slows to a crawl I've been running Drupal sites for 2+ years, and haven't had browser issues when browsing them with Ice Weasel. (I have experienced Drupal and hosting issues.) Currently, my system bogs down when I use Ice Weasel to browse Yahoo! Groups. This is especially noticeable when I an entering data into a textarea control and Yahoo! seems to be spell-checking each and every keystroke. I haven't tried any other browsers or platforms. My guess is that the problem has something to do with JavaScript -- flaws in the site's JavaScript code and/or flaws in Ice Weasel's JavaScript engine. HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d45e973.3040...@holgerdanske.com
Re: which is at fault? iceweasel or drupal?
In 20110130220014.ga2...@rlharris.org, Russell L. Harris wrote: Occasionally while browsing with iceweasel, the machine slows to a crawl and the processor usage (as displayed by system monitor) stays at 100 percent. Almost always, this happens when browsing a web site which uses drupal as its engine. Drupal shouldn't be a specific culprit. There's enough layers between Iceweasel and Drupal so make their interaction minimal. Still, Iceweasel could be bogging down on the amount of ECMAScript, any embedded objects (like Flash video), or just a hugely complex HTML structure. It's even theoretically possible that Drupal is bogging down and some AJAX running in Iceweasel is choosing/having to wait on slow requests. If the Drupal site is yours, you might view the source and see if you and simplify it. If not, probably just have to deal with it or use a different or newer browser. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: which is at fault? iceweasel or drupal?
* Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net [110131 04:12]: In 20110130220014.ga2...@rlharris.org, Russell L. Harris wrote: Occasionally while browsing with iceweasel, the machine slows to a crawl and the processor usage (as displayed by system monitor) stays at 100 percent. Almost always, this happens when browsing a web site which uses drupal as its engine. ... If the Drupal site is yours, you might view the source and see if you and simplify it. If not, probably just have to deal with it or use a different or newer browser. It is not my site; at this point I have no intention of trying drupal again. But I installed Konqueror (I am running Gnome) and discovered that Konqueror does not exhibit this effect. So for that web site (and perhaps for everything else), I now plan to use Konqueror. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110131063645.ga3...@rlharris.org
