Re: Read-only Servers We Can Snoop Around on for Tips?

2001-02-26 Thread Erik Steffl
mike polniak wrote:
 
 Christian Aeschliman wrote:
 
  Hello folks,
 
  I've been thinking about a trend I wish existed.  I'm wondering if this
  currently exists at all.  I don't have any friends into Linux, really, and I
  definitely don't know anyone else that I can talk to for free that's into
  Debian.
 
  I wish there was an open Debian box out there somewhere with a login and
  password that was freely available.  That way, you could get on the server,
  look at all the configuration files and special modifications and apply them
  to your own setup.
 
  Let's say that I'm having a little trouble setting up a name server ... or I
  just want to know how others have set theirs up.  I could just hop on one of
  these open servers and look at their whole configuration.  The user wouldn't
  have enough priviliges to rm any files or write or run anything, just the
  ability to read files and list directory contents.
 
  As for a trend, it'd be nice if every distro had a few machines like this
  ... like a Redhat webserver ... or a Mandrake qmail server, etc.
 
  Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Does it sound like a good idea?  If
  this kind of thing exists, can you please point me in the right direction?
 
  If this kind of thing doesn't really exist, but you think it's interesting,
  would any of you care to make such an account on any of your machines?
 
 
  Is this what you're looking for ? I found this at
 http://sekt7.org/openroot/about.php3
 
 However crazy this may sound, Openroot is a computer on my
 network, which is a:
 
 Processor:Pentium 75mhz
 Ram: 48mb
 HD: Maxtor 6gb
 O/S: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT
 
 I give the root password out to anyone, so they can (a) learn
 the Unix operating system (b) experiment (c) do
 whatever they want, I don't care really.
 
 How do I login to openroot?
 1. telnet to sekt7.org port 30.
 2. login as openroot with the password Ihatelamers
 3. su to root with the password Gotroot
 If you have any difficulties logging on, either of these
 situations could've happened: (a) someone has messed up the
 system, in which you have to wait until it auto-reimages
 itself OR (b) it is in the process of auto-reimaging itself.
 Openroot restores itself every hour, which is a process that
 takes around ten minutes.

  there's also workspot.com, you can have access to linux desktop via
vnc (using java enabled browser).

erik



Re: Read-only Servers We Can Snoop Around on for Tips?

2001-02-25 Thread Gary Jones
On 23 Feb 2001, MaD dUCK wrote:

 i find myself
 usually using configurations that are very specific to my sites.

You're right, I think. There are so many possible permutations (just 
thing, for example, about the different ways to connect to the 'net - 
modem ppp, isdn, cable, *DSL (did I miss any) - and the different 
ways they may be configured/used. Its a nice idea, but it just seems 
a little impractical to me.

 that's why there are HOWTOs, man,

Yeah, man, read the HOWTOs %-)

-- 
Gary
Debian 2.1r4 (kernel v2.0.39); XFree86 3.3.6
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
(Einstein)



Read-only Servers We Can Snoop Around on for Tips?

2001-02-23 Thread Christian Aeschliman

Hello folks,

I've been thinking about a trend I wish existed.  I'm wondering if this
currently exists at all.  I don't have any friends into Linux, really, and I
definitely don't know anyone else that I can talk to for free that's into
Debian.

I wish there was an open Debian box out there somewhere with a login and
password that was freely available.  That way, you could get on the server,
look at all the configuration files and special modifications and apply them
to your own setup.

Let's say that I'm having a little trouble setting up a name server ... or I
just want to know how others have set theirs up.  I could just hop on one of
these open servers and look at their whole configuration.  The user wouldn't
have enough priviliges to rm any files or write or run anything, just the
ability to read files and list directory contents.

As for a trend, it'd be nice if every distro had a few machines like this
... like a Redhat webserver ... or a Mandrake qmail server, etc.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Does it sound like a good idea?  If
this kind of thing exists, can you please point me in the right direction?

If this kind of thing doesn't really exist, but you think it's interesting,
would any of you care to make such an account on any of your machines?

Good account name:

l: debianvisitor (or something like that)
p: [same as username] or letmein or something

Unfortunately, since I'm still at upper-newbie level, I can't see myself
properly setting up a machine like this yet.  I'm afraid that someone would
use it to relay mail or launch attacks or whatever, you know.

Any feedback would be appreciated, thank you all.

-Christian




Re: Read-only Servers We Can Snoop Around on for Tips?

2001-02-23 Thread MaD dUCK
shell access to any box will significantly decrease security. so i
don't think this is a good idea, especially because i find myself
usually using configurations that are very specific to my sites. but
on the upswing, doing so i learn a whole lot more than from other
people's configs.

that's why there are HOWTOs, man, and this mailing list - because if
you need help, someone may decide to mail you configs or give you
temporary shell access. i'll help if you have a specific question, i
am fairly down with most unix admin concepts. so will everyone else
here.

a public server poses several problems - funding, maintenance,
security, generality etc.

martin

[greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@@@.net
-- 
the nice thing about windoze is - it does not just crash,
it displays a dialog box and lets you press 'ok' first.



Re: Read-only Servers We Can Snoop Around on for Tips?

2001-02-23 Thread mike polniak
Christian Aeschliman wrote:
 
 Hello folks,
 
 I've been thinking about a trend I wish existed.  I'm wondering if this
 currently exists at all.  I don't have any friends into Linux, really, and I
 definitely don't know anyone else that I can talk to for free that's into
 Debian.
 
 I wish there was an open Debian box out there somewhere with a login and
 password that was freely available.  That way, you could get on the server,
 look at all the configuration files and special modifications and apply them
 to your own setup.
 
 Let's say that I'm having a little trouble setting up a name server ... or I
 just want to know how others have set theirs up.  I could just hop on one of
 these open servers and look at their whole configuration.  The user wouldn't
 have enough priviliges to rm any files or write or run anything, just the
 ability to read files and list directory contents.
 
 As for a trend, it'd be nice if every distro had a few machines like this
 ... like a Redhat webserver ... or a Mandrake qmail server, etc.
 
 Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Does it sound like a good idea?  If
 this kind of thing exists, can you please point me in the right direction?
 
 If this kind of thing doesn't really exist, but you think it's interesting,
 would any of you care to make such an account on any of your machines?


 Is this what you're looking for ? I found this at
http://sekt7.org/openroot/about.php3

However crazy this may sound, Openroot is a computer on my
network, which is a: 

Processor:Pentium 75mhz
Ram: 48mb
HD: Maxtor 6gb 
O/S: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT


I give the root password out to anyone, so they can (a) learn
the Unix operating system (b) experiment (c) do
whatever they want, I don't care really. 

How do I login to openroot?
1. telnet to sekt7.org port 30.
2. login as openroot with the password Ihatelamers
3. su to root with the password Gotroot
If you have any difficulties logging on, either of these
situations could've happened: (a) someone has messed up the
system, in which you have to wait until it auto-reimages
itself OR (b) it is in the process of auto-reimaging itself.
Openroot restores itself every hour, which is a process that
takes around ten minutes. 
 
LINUX~~nobody owns it~~everybody can use it~~anybody can improve it
~~~