Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:38 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 22 Jun 2014, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01187.html wherein on Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Bret Busby wrote: Now, if only the list defaulted to Reply To List, it would be good, and, make replying to the list, easier... But, I believe that this particular issue has very strong feelings on both sides of the debate. and so, iiuc, OP (Bret) was not trying to initiate a discussion of how things (listserv configs, etc) *should* be. instead, it looks to me that OP merely sought to clarify how things actually *are*. So this should've pointed out rather than stupidly calling Bob P a troll. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SyvY+OCxj_g7SiCo1ob1bvb-==ycj+rmydg4sqm6jm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
Hi Bret. On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Bret Busby wrote: On 18/06/2014, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 00:28:45 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Now, if only the list defaulted to Reply To List, it would be good, and, make replying to the list, easier... As far as I know, it does. As far as I know, everyone who replies to my stuff on this list goes to the list. As far as I know, every one of my replies to this list goes to the list. Perhaps you have coded a Reply to in your email client. I have just checked the full headers, using both the MTA formerly known as PINE, and, gmail (I have my gmail account, subscribed, and, my normal email address, subscribed, and, I use alpine for incoming email, for the latter, due to the power of PINE), and both show no presence of a Reply-To value having been set. In both instances, in composing a reply to your message, the replies default to replying to you only; a user needs to use the Reply To All option, and then (if the user is inclined, and, I generally do it, to minimise wastage of bandwidth and duplication of messages for recipients) deleting the email address of the poster of the message to which the reply is being composed (and deleting any other circulated email addresses shown in the message header), and, cutting (from the CC field), and pasting, the list address, to the To address for thew message. i am familiar with that kind of hamster-work. done it myself for more than a decade. kind of a pita. have you looked at alpine's roles? Main menu Setup Roles. i have, just now, created one of these roles, for alpine to apply when i reply to messages located in the mailfolder where i file messages received from debian-user. it fills in the To: header automatically and correctly, to debian-user, among other things. below are the relevant non-default settings i chose for the role. first, here are the triggering conditions: ] == CURRENT FOLDER CONDITIONS BEGIN HERE == ] Current Folder Type = ] SetChoose One ] --- ] ( ) Any ] ( ) News ] ( ) Email ] (*) Specific (Enter Incoming Nicknames or use ^T) ] Folder List = /full/path/to/debian/user/mailfolder ] == CURRENT MESSAGE CONDITIONS BEGIN HERE == ] To pattern= No Value Set ] [...] ] List-Id pattern = debian-user.lists.debian.org ] Add Extra Headers ] [...] to set a List-Id pattern, i had to add it using the Add Extra Headers option. (since the only messages i save in the specified folder already fit the pattern, it is in fact redundant.) the settings above make alpine consider applying the following template to my own outgoing messages, when i'm in the designated mailfolder and the currently viewed message was sent to the debian-user listserv. the settings below define the template applied to my outgoing messages: ] == ACTIONS BEGIN HERE == ] Initialize settings using role : No Value Set ] Set From= david...@ling.ohio-state.edu ] Set Reply-To= debian-user@lists.debian.org ] [...] ] Set Other Hdrs = To: debian-user@lists.debian.org ] [...] it's the last setting that does the work you've been looking for, if i understand you correctly. hope this helps. -wes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1406261448190.28...@brutus.ling.ohio-state.edu
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: have you looked at alpine's roles? Main menu Setup Roles. Correction: Main menu Setup *Rules* Roles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1406261556580.28...@brutus.ling.ohio-state.edu
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On 23/06/2014, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Bret Busby wrote: Tom H wrote: Bret Busby wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! If either you or he, had read what had aleardy passed in the thread, you and he would have seen that the matter had been dealt with, I had read through the thread. For reference it starts here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01192.html And it was that message to which I replied. wes kindly pointed to a different thread of discussion which clarified things somewhat. However that was a different thread and I had skipped over reading it. resulting in my making a request for change, to the people maintaining PINE/ALPINE, to allow the option of replying to a list, using the List-Post field value in message headers, which solution had been included in the previous postings in the thread. Sorry but it was not clear to me in the thread that you were making an enhancement request for the alpine package. As a suggestion I doubt the alpine package maintainers are reading this mailing list. I haven't seen the maintainer's address here, that I have noticed. It it much better for enhancement requests if a wishlist bug is filed against the package in the BTS. That will get the attention of the maintainer. But unless someone actually steps forward and does the work it still probably won't get done. But at least the effort will be documented in an easier to locate place. Most work for enhancing is better done directly with the upstream maintainers. It is controversial how many patches should be maintained downstream in Debian. Some think many. Some think none. Many upstreams become upset if their software is modified. Some welcome it. Therefore I think it is best to try to work with the upstream project directly when possible to develop new features. I had not previously been aware of RFC2369, and so, the thread, with its responses before the trolls, had been constructive and educational, which, I believe is supposed to be the purpose of this mailing list. Gmail appears to not have provision for making Requests For Change, regarding the Gmail email facility, so I appear to not be able to make a Request For Change, to the Gmail people, which could solve the problem in using Gmail.. Google is rather notorious for being hard to reach on such things. I had posted what I had posted, regarding the abillity to reply to the list, solution had been posted and demonstrated, and, the matter had (I believe) been closed, insofar as the thread on this list, had been concerned. The subsequent messages posted by b...@proulx.com tomh0...@gmail.com lazyvi...@gmx.com were inflammatory, and, posted for the purpose of being inflammatory, making them trolls. Two of those three certainly were not. But somehow I think we are using different definitions for an internet troll. A troll is almost always trying to increase noise in a newsgroup or mailing list by stirring up trouble. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) The messages you are marking as trolling are trying to reduce noise on this mailing list. Because discussions of reply-to have historically been very controversial topics. We have been there many times. The thread had come to an end; it had the solution, and, the thread had died, and those people revived it, to create a zombie for evil purposes. Let me formally apologize if I misunderstood your message. My mistake was reading your message and thinking you were asking for a controversial change to the mailing list. If past history is a prediction that would have started a discussion hundreds of messages long. If I had understood that you were asking for an enhancement request for a package I wouldn't have commented as I did. Therefore let me say that I am sorry if I offended you. I am also sorry if I extended a discussion that had concluded. No evil was intended. Please be careful directly calling people trolls however. We try to be a pleasant and welcoming place here on the mailing list. But ad hominem attacks never go well for anyone. My advice is to avoid using that perjorative directly against people. It is too easy to take it personally since personally is how it is directed. Therefore my best advice is to avoid it. :-) Bob With everything that has been posted in this thread, let us just end the thread,
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
Bret Busby wrote: Tom H wrote: Bret Busby wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! If either you or he, had read what had aleardy passed in the thread, you and he would have seen that the matter had been dealt with, I had read through the thread. For reference it starts here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01192.html And it was that message to which I replied. wes kindly pointed to a different thread of discussion which clarified things somewhat. However that was a different thread and I had skipped over reading it. resulting in my making a request for change, to the people maintaining PINE/ALPINE, to allow the option of replying to a list, using the List-Post field value in message headers, which solution had been included in the previous postings in the thread. Sorry but it was not clear to me in the thread that you were making an enhancement request for the alpine package. As a suggestion I doubt the alpine package maintainers are reading this mailing list. I haven't seen the maintainer's address here, that I have noticed. It it much better for enhancement requests if a wishlist bug is filed against the package in the BTS. That will get the attention of the maintainer. But unless someone actually steps forward and does the work it still probably won't get done. But at least the effort will be documented in an easier to locate place. Most work for enhancing is better done directly with the upstream maintainers. It is controversial how many patches should be maintained downstream in Debian. Some think many. Some think none. Many upstreams become upset if their software is modified. Some welcome it. Therefore I think it is best to try to work with the upstream project directly when possible to develop new features. I had not previously been aware of RFC2369, and so, the thread, with its responses before the trolls, had been constructive and educational, which, I believe is supposed to be the purpose of this mailing list. Gmail appears to not have provision for making Requests For Change, regarding the Gmail email facility, so I appear to not be able to make a Request For Change, to the Gmail people, which could solve the problem in using Gmail.. Google is rather notorious for being hard to reach on such things. I had posted what I had posted, regarding the abillity to reply to the list, solution had been posted and demonstrated, and, the matter had (I believe) been closed, insofar as the thread on this list, had been concerned. The subsequent messages posted by b...@proulx.com tomh0...@gmail.com lazyvi...@gmx.com were inflammatory, and, posted for the purpose of being inflammatory, making them trolls. Two of those three certainly were not. But somehow I think we are using different definitions for an internet troll. A troll is almost always trying to increase noise in a newsgroup or mailing list by stirring up trouble. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) The messages you are marking as trolling are trying to reduce noise on this mailing list. Because discussions of reply-to have historically been very controversial topics. We have been there many times. The thread had come to an end; it had the solution, and, the thread had died, and those people revived it, to create a zombie for evil purposes. Let me formally apologize if I misunderstood your message. My mistake was reading your message and thinking you were asking for a controversial change to the mailing list. If past history is a prediction that would have started a discussion hundreds of messages long. If I had understood that you were asking for an enhancement request for a package I wouldn't have commented as I did. Therefore let me say that I am sorry if I offended you. I am also sorry if I extended a discussion that had concluded. No evil was intended. Please be careful directly calling people trolls however. We try to be a pleasant and welcoming place here on the mailing list. But ad hominem attacks never go well for anyone. My advice is to avoid using that perjorative directly against people. It is too easy to take it personally since personally is how it is directed. Therefore my best advice is to avoid it. :-) Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SxFq4vxBLc_7ioiiWtcj3DbVe=uhydUv=vyiinmcyz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:13:39 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! Let's launch Troll-CD, a pure ubuntu distro on a USB key, multiple points of failure, etc. -- QTbot If we ping Santa, is there may be a packet loss? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01187.html wherein on Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Bret Busby wrote: Now, if only the list defaulted to Reply To List, it would be good, and, make replying to the list, easier... But, I believe that this particular issue has very strong feelings on both sides of the debate. and so, iiuc, OP (Bret) was not trying to initiate a discussion of how things (listserv configs, etc) *should* be. instead, it looks to me that OP merely sought to clarify how things actually *are*. -wes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1406221319050.24...@brutus.ling.ohio-state.edu
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On 23/06/2014, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! If either you or he, had read what had aleardy passed in the thread, you and he would have seen that the matter had been dealt with, resulting in my making a request for change, to the people maintaining PINE/ALPINE, to allow the option of replying to a list, using the List-Post field value in message headers, which solution had been included in the previous postings in the thread. I had not previously been aware of RFC2369, and so, the thread, with its responses before the trolls, had been constructive and educational, which, I believe is supposed to be the purpose of this mailing list. Gmail appears to not have provision for making Requests For Change, regarding the Gmail email facility, so I appear to not be able to make a Request For Change, to the Gmail people, which could solve the problem in using Gmail.. I had posted what I had posted, regarding the abillity to reply to the list, solution had been posted and demonstrated, and, the matter had (I believe) been closed, insofar as the thread on this list, had been concerned. The subsequent messages posted by b...@proulx.com tomh0...@gmail.com lazyvi...@gmx.com were inflammatory, and, posted for the purpose of being inflammatory, making them trolls. The thread had come to an end; it had the solution, and, the thread had died, and those people revived it, to create a zombie for evil purposes. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8oujj4xunct3888x-0pxakqx0rtbyzrearq+eb-cuf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
Bret Busby wrote: email, for the latter, due to the power of PINE), and both show no presence of a Reply-To value having been set. This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:53:14 From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work Bret Busby wrote: email, for the latter, due to the power of PINE), and both show no presence of a Reply-To value having been set. This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Bob Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.00.1406202330320.6...@bret-dd-workstation.busby.net
Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On 18/06/2014, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 00:28:45 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Now, if only the list defaulted to Reply To List, it would be good, and, make replying to the list, easier... As far as I know, it does. As far as I know, everyone who replies to my stuff on this list goes to the list. As far as I know, every one of my replies to this list goes to the list. Perhaps you have coded a Reply to in your email client. I have just checked the full headers, using both the MTA formerly known as PINE, and, gmail (I have my gmail account, subscribed, and, my normal email address, subscribed, and, I use alpine for incoming email, for the latter, due to the power of PINE), and both show no presence of a Reply-To value having been set. In both instances, in composing a reply to your message, the replies default to replying to you only; a user needs to use the Reply To All option, and then (if the user is inclined, and, I generally do it, to minimise wastage of bandwidth and duplication of messages for recipients) deleting the email address of the poster of the message to which the reply is being composed (and deleting any other circulated email addresses shown in the message header), and, cutting (from the CC field), and pasting, the list address, to the To address for the message. Where a list (and, I am assuming that the mailing list software for this list allows it - from the full header, the mailing list software used for this list, is Claws mail) is configured to by default, Reply-To the mailing list, it generally is shown in the full header of a message that is distributed by the mailing list, or, so I believe. Also, when a list does not default replies to the list, causing subscribers to use the Reply To All option when replying to list messages, it can be shown in the messages where repliers do not delete from the To and CC email addresses of a message being composed, the email addresses other than the list address, of previous posters in a thread, leading to strings of addressees in the To and CC address fields, with the list address being shown to be in the CC field, in the headers. Or, that is my experience. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8muku5bycynuet7c9jnxwbtoidkowker1asplj_-1j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Bret Busby wrote: Where a list (and, I am assuming that the mailing list software for this list allows it - from the full header, the mailing list software used for this list, is Claws mail) is configured to by default, Reply-To the mailing list, it generally is shown in the full header of a message that is distributed by the mailing list, or, so I believe. Reply-To is for users to set. Mailing lists often set it because many MUAs do not take advantage of RFC2369 and ignore List-Post, which Debian mailing lists set. MUAs like mutt and gnus are capable of differentiating between replying to the poster, and replying to the list. As such, Debian does not alter the reply-to: header for its official mailing lists. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com Only one creature could have duplicated the expressions on their faces, and that would be a pigeon who has heard not only that Lord Nelson has got down off his column but has also been seen buying a 12-bore repeater and a box of cartridges. -- Terry Pratchet _Mort_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140617183317.gv9...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Tuesday 17 June 2014 18:52:08 Bret Busby wrote: On 18/06/2014, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 00:28:45 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Now, if only the list defaulted to Reply To List, it would be good, and, make replying to the list, easier... As far as I know, it does. As far as I know, everyone who replies to my stuff on this list goes to the list. As far as I know, every one of my replies to this list goes to the list. Perhaps you have coded a Reply to in your email client. I have just checked the full headers, using both the MTA formerly known as PINE, and, gmail (I have my gmail account, subscribed, and, my normal email address, subscribed, and, I use alpine for incoming email, for the latter, due to the power of PINE), and both show no presence of a Reply-To value having been set. In both instances, in composing a reply to your message, the replies default to replying to you only; When I just clicked on reply to to a posting of Steve's the address entered in teh correct field in teh reply was teh lists. Some people set reply to in their own headings with their own addrees which seems ot override the mailing list's setting. But I have my mailing list folders set to reply to list, which probably makes a difference. KMail 1.9.10 on Trinity 3.5.13.2. a user needs to use the Reply To All option, I don't. Ever. Normally it goes to the list if I just click on reply. I do make mistakes and forget to do so, but I can just press L instead of clicking reply and it always goes to the list. Lisi and then (if the user is inclined, and, I generally do it, to minimise wastage of bandwidth and duplication of messages for recipients) deleting the email address of the poster of the message to which the reply is being composed (and deleting any other circulated email addresses shown in the message header), and, cutting (from the CC field), and pasting, the list address, to the To address for the message. Where a list (and, I am assuming that the mailing list software for this list allows it - from the full header, the mailing list software used for this list, is Claws mail) is configured to by default, Reply-To the mailing list, it generally is shown in the full header of a message that is distributed by the mailing list, or, so I believe. Also, when a list does not default replies to the list, causing subscribers to use the Reply To All option when replying to list messages, it can be shown in the messages where repliers do not delete from the To and CC email addresses of a message being composed, the email addresses other than the list address, of previous posters in a thread, leading to strings of addressees in the To and CC address fields, with the list address being shown to be in the CC field, in the headers. Or, that is my experience. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406172233.53495.lisi.re...@gmail.com
