Re: Request virtualbox setup advice
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:56:39 -0400 Whit Hansell skippe...@comcast.net wrote: Hey guys, Been reading the virtual noob posts and a statement there intrigued me. Someone said Oracle recommended using the virtualbox files from their site rather than from the distro(Debian 8 - Jessie-AMD64). I have used virtualbox in the past and had difficulty with I/O(usb) and found out about the PUELA file and then before I could do anything about it my HD failed. Well, I'm up and running again, have tried the distro version w. the PUELA extension and on my W7 guest I end up with the CPU pegged at 100% a few minutes after starting it up. That just isn't right. I think but am not sure it has to do w. my usb webcam but not sure. Anyway, want to start over and have the best foundation possible in order to reduce the variables with possible problems later. So I feel the Oracle software sitauation is the way to go. So I am interested in using Oracle's files and have questions. I can as recommended on the Oracle site, add Oracle to my sources list file and the keyring. Have done similar w. multimedia w. no problems. But since I have virtualbox 4.3.x files on the distro, will the first update I do after I do the above, just add another set of virtualbox files of the newer 5.x.x versions, leaving the lower versions alone? Or will it cause a conflict? I would guess it should be OK but wanted to check first before I hose things up. OR I can download the Jessie version 5.x.x .deb file and stick it into my usr/loca/ directory and then have to mess around with manual updating whenever Oracle comes out with a newer version. Please advise. I would love to have a good working version of Windows on my Linux box for the few times it is needed. Thanks in advxnce for your help. You guys are great. Whit Not that I am trying to muddle the issue, Whit, but in my experience the VirtualBox guest drivers are terrible. You can't easily resize disk files, and the relative performance is poor. I've entirely dropped using it in favor of KVM, and I'm only suggesting that you consider it. Most Linux kernels already have KVM support. You don't have to concern myself with Oracle's schedules. If you have the hardware, you can use video passthrough and optimizations to get near 90-95% of native speed - which is much better and far more compatible than VirtualBox. Take care! T.J.
Re: Request virtualbox setup advice
On Friday 21 August 2015 10:33:23 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 20 August 2015 20:56:39 Whit Hansell wrote: Please advise. I would love to have a good working version of Windows on my Linux box for the few times it is needed. I personally would avoid all risk of conflict and purge VB with your package manager of choice before installing the upstream version. In my experience one needs (I needed) the upstream guest additions. Lisi Hi: I couldn't test VBox5.0 on Jessie - that might work but if you already upgraded Jessie to Testing than you run into problems with libvpx1. It has no install candidate in Testing because libvpx2 is part of Testing. The best bet might be to stay with Jessie as host system and install Testing in a virtual machine to keep track of the gcc5 transition. Well - all depends on what you are up to ... Cheers Eike
Re: Request virtualbox setup advice
On 08/21/2015 09:00 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Friday 21 August 2015 10:33:23 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 20 August 2015 20:56:39 Whit Hansell wrote: Please advise. I would love to have a good working version of Windows on my Linux box for the few times it is needed. I personally would avoid all risk of conflict and purge VB with your package manager of choice before installing the upstream version. In my experience one needs (I needed) the upstream guest additions. Lisi Hi: I couldn't test VBox5.0 on Jessie - that might work but if you already upgraded Jessie to Testing than you run into problems with libvpx1. It has no install candidate in Testing because libvpx2 is part of Testing. The best bet might be to stay with Jessie as host system and install Testing in a virtual machine to keep track of the gcc5 transition. Well - all depends on what you are up to ... Cheers Eike Hi Eike, Thanks for repllying. am not using testing at all. When my old HD died, I bought a 1 Tb dirive and installed Jessie stable from scratch using netinstall. Checked virtualbox site and it recommends for Jessie virtualbox 5.0.2 which is the latest, I guess, stable version of Virtualbox as it is also recommended for Wheezy too. Not planning on going to testing w. these newer often changing Linux systems. I had used testing in the pas thru squeeze. But when Wheezy came out I started using stable because of the major changes being made to the kernel and system. Thanks for replying and the help. Appreciate it a bunch. Regards, whit
Re: Request virtualbox setup advice
On 08/21/2015 05:33 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 20 August 2015 20:56:39 Whit Hansell wrote: Please advise. I would love to have a good working version of Windows on my Linux box for the few times it is needed. I personally would avoid all risk of conflict and purge VB with your package manager of choice before installing the upstream version. In my experience one needs (I needed) the upstream guest additions. Lisi Thank you for replying, Lisi. I agree w. purging the already installed files. Have done so just this AM. Am in process of setting up sources list entry and keyring, etc now. Thanks for the reply and reminder Whit
Re: Request virtualbox setup advice
On Thursday 20 August 2015 20:56:39 Whit Hansell wrote: Please advise. I would love to have a good working version of Windows on my Linux box for the few times it is needed. I personally would avoid all risk of conflict and purge VB with your package manager of choice before installing the upstream version. In my experience one needs (I needed) the upstream guest additions. Lisi
Request virtualbox setup advice
Hey guys, Been reading the virtual noob posts and a statement there intrigued me. Someone said Oracle recommended using the virtualbox files from their site rather than from the distro(Debian 8 - Jessie-AMD64). I have used virtualbox in the past and had difficulty with I/O(usb) and found out about the PUELA file and then before I could do anything about it my HD failed. Well, I'm up and running again, have tried the distro version w. the PUELA extension and on my W7 guest I end up with the CPU pegged at 100% a few minutes after starting it up. That just isn't right. I think but am not sure it has to do w. my usb webcam but not sure. Anyway, want to start over and have the best foundation possible in order to reduce the variables with possible problems later. So I feel the Oracle software sitauation is the way to go. So I am interested in using Oracle's files and have questions. I can as recommended on the Oracle site, add Oracle to my sources list file and the keyring. Have done similar w. multimedia w. no problems. But since I have virtualbox 4.3.x files on the distro, will the first update I do after I do the above, just add another set of virtualbox files of the newer 5.x.x versions, leaving the lower versions alone? Or will it cause a conflict? I would guess it should be OK but wanted to check first before I hose things up. OR I can download the Jessie version 5.x.x .deb file and stick it into my usr/loca/ directory and then have to mess around with manual updating whenever Oracle comes out with a newer version. Please advise. I would love to have a good working version of Windows on my Linux box for the few times it is needed. Thanks in advxnce for your help. You guys are great. Whit
