routing table question

2004-09-24 Thread Tony Uceda Velez
sorry to have recycled the subjectreal question below.

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-Original Message-
From: Tony Uceda Velez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:15 PM
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Subject: RE: SSH/Putty password problem


where are the routing tables stored persistently in debian?

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Re: routing table question

2004-09-24 Thread Sergio Basurto
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:16:15 -0400, Tony Uceda Velez
wrote:

 
 sorry to have recycled the subjectreal question
 below.
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Uceda Velez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: SSH/Putty password problem
 
 
 where are the routing tables stored persistently in
 debian?


You can see it with the following command:
#route -n  
shows the actual routing table

#ip route show 
also do the thing.



 
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RE: routing table question

2004-09-24 Thread Tony Uceda Velez
right but is there a route.conf like there is in suse.  there has to be a
place where you can store routes besides in memory.  doing a route add
simply stores in memory and a reboot clears the routing table.

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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:16:15 -0400, Tony Uceda Velez
wrote:

 
 sorry to have recycled the subjectreal question
 below.
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Uceda Velez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: SSH/Putty password problem
 
 
 where are the routing tables stored persistently in
 debian?


You can see it with the following command:
#route -n  
shows the actual routing table

#ip route show 
also do the thing.



 
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RE: routing table question

2004-09-24 Thread Sergio Basurto
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:51:01 -0400, Tony Uceda Velez
wrote:

 
 right but is there a route.conf like there is in
suse. 
 there has to be a
 place where you can store routes besides in memory. 
 doing a route add
 simply stores in memory and a reboot clears the
routing
 table.
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Sergio Basurto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: routing table question
 
 
 On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:16:15 -0400, Tony Uceda Velez
 wrote:
 
  
  sorry to have recycled the subjectreal question
  below.
  
  Tony UcedaVélez
  Security Analyst
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  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Uceda Velez
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  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:15 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: SSH/Putty password problem
  
  
  where are the routing tables stored persistently in
  debian?
 
 
 You can see it with the following command:
 #route -n  
 shows the actual routing table
 
 #ip route show 
 also do the thing.
 
 
What exactly are you triying to do, if you want that
your default gw apears the next time you boot your
machine you must configure this at:
/etc/network/interfaces

or be more explicit...
 
  
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RE: routing table question

2004-09-24 Thread John Smith
I would add some 'up' statements to my /etc/network/interfaces, like:

iface eth0 inet static
address 10.x.y.z
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 10.x.y.0
broadcast 10.x.y.255
up route add -net 1.2.3.4 
down route del -net ...

Sincerely,

Jan

On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 23:51, Tony Uceda Velez wrote:
 right but is there a route.conf like there is in suse.  there has to be a
 place where you can store routes besides in memory.  doing a route add
 simply stores in memory and a reboot clears the routing table.
 
 Tony UcedaVélez
 Security Analyst
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 877.884.1110
 --
 SecureWorks. Rock-solid Internet security.
 No hassles. No headcount.  No capital outlay.
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 http://www.secureworks.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sergio Basurto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: routing table question
 
 
 On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:16:15 -0400, Tony Uceda Velez
 wrote:
 
  
  sorry to have recycled the subjectreal question
  below.
  
  Tony UcedaVélez
  Security Analyst
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  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Uceda Velez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:15 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: SSH/Putty password problem
  
  
  where are the routing tables stored persistently in
  debian?
 
 
 You can see it with the following command:
 #route -n  
 shows the actual routing table
 
 #ip route show 
 also do the thing.
 
 
 
  
  Tony UcedaVélez
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 Ing. Sergio Basurto Juárez
 Tel: 04455-85322945
 



Routing table question

1999-07-28 Thread Arcady Genkin
Hi all:

I'm reading TCP/IP Administration by O'Reily, and have a question on 
the routing table on my Debian box. It's quite simple:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
209.226.71.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth1
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
0.0.0.0 209.226.71.10.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth1

I have 2 nics in my computer. eth0 is connected to
another computer (local net), and has IP 192.168.1.2, and another one
is connected to the internet with DHCP.

My question is: why is the local network bound to default gateway?
Shouldn't 192.168.1.0 be bound to 192.168.1.2?

I suspect that I misunderstand something, since the computers are able 
to comunicate.

Any input highly appreciated,
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of eternal blessedness in the other world... (S. Kierkegaard)


Re: Routing table question

1999-07-28 Thread David H. Silber
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 05:50:03PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
 Hi all:
 
 I'm reading TCP/IP Administration by O'Reily, and have a question on 
 the routing table on my Debian box. It's quite simple:
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
 209.226.71.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth1
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
 0.0.0.0 209.226.71.10.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth1
 
 I have 2 nics in my computer. eth0 is connected to
 another computer (local net), and has IP 192.168.1.2, and another one
 is connected to the internet with DHCP.
 
 My question is: why is the local network bound to default gateway?
 Shouldn't 192.168.1.0 be bound to 192.168.1.2?

The default is for addresses whose routes are not specified by the
routing table.  Packets destined for any computer with an IP in the
192.168.1.0 network will be sent out eth0.  Everything else will go
out the (default) eth1.


 I suspect that I misunderstand something, since the computers are able 
 to comunicate.
 
 Any input highly appreciated,

Hope this made some sense.

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Re: Routing table question

1999-07-28 Thread Arcady Genkin
David H. Silber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I'm reading TCP/IP Administration by O'Reily, and have a question on 
  the routing table on my Debian box. It's quite simple:
  
  Kernel IP routing table
  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt 
  Iface
  209.226.71.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 
  eth1
  192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 
  eth0
  0.0.0.0 209.226.71.10.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 
  eth1
  
  I have 2 nics in my computer. eth0 is connected to
  another computer (local net), and has IP 192.168.1.2, and another one
  is connected to the internet with DHCP.
  
  My question is: why is the local network bound to default gateway?
  Shouldn't 192.168.1.0 be bound to 192.168.1.2?
 
 The default is for addresses whose routes are not specified by the
 routing table.  Packets destined for any computer with an IP in the
 192.168.1.0 network will be sent out eth0.  Everything else will go
 out the (default) eth1.

David, thanks for your reply.

I still don't understand something. Doesn't the line:

192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0

mean send everything addressed to IP's 192.168.1.* through default
gateway? But this way the kernel will be sending communications for
192.168.1.1 through 209.226.71.1. So I must be wrong in translating
the line above...

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of eternal blessedness in the other world... (S. Kierkegaard)


Re: Routing table question

1999-07-28 Thread Paul Miller
Arcady Genkin wrote:
 
 I still don't understand something. Doesn't the line:
 
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
  ^^^
Don't let those 0s confuse you. That means there is not gateway defined
for that route.  Also look in the fourth column. In your default gateway
route you see 'UG'. the 'G' means gateway. Above there is only 'U'.
Which means the route is up. 

The line actually says send all packets destined for 192.168.1.x out on
eth0.

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Re: Routing table question

1999-07-28 Thread Arcady Genkin
Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I still don't understand something. Doesn't the line:
  
  192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 
  eth0
   ^^^
 Don't let those 0s confuse you. That means there is not gateway defined
 for that route.  Also look in the fourth column. In your default gateway
 route you see 'UG'. the 'G' means gateway. Above there is only 'U'.
 Which means the route is up. 

Paul, thanks a lot for your reply.

I got confused by the following phrase in the book: The default route 
is the other reserved network number mentioned earlier: 0.0.0.0.

 The line actually says send all packets destined for 192.168.1.x out on
 eth0.

Thanks again.

p.s. I apologize if I sent you this message twice. Hit the wrong
shortcut. ;^[
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Re: Routing table question

1999-07-28 Thread David H. Silber
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 06:07:55PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
 David H. Silber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The default is for addresses whose routes are not specified by the
  routing table.  Packets destined for any computer with an IP in the
  192.168.1.0 network will be sent out eth0.  Everything else will go
  out the (default) eth1.
 
 David, thanks for your reply.
 
 I still don't understand something. Doesn't the line:
 
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
 
 mean send everything addressed to IP's 192.168.1.* through default
 gateway? But this way the kernel will be sending communications for
 192.168.1.1 through 209.226.71.1. So I must be wrong in translating
 the line above...

It means send everything addressed to IP's 192.168.1.* through the
specified interface, in this case, eth0.

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Re: Routing table question

1999-07-28 Thread Buddha Buck
 David H. Silber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 I still don't understand something. Doesn't the line:
 
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
 
 mean send everything addressed to IP's 192.168.1.* through default
 gateway? But this way the kernel will be sending communications for
 192.168.1.1 through 209.226.71.1. So I must be wrong in translating
 the line above...

It more means send everything addressed to a host on the 
192.168.1.0/24 network to -no- gateway.

The gateway column specifies which machine to gateway through, so 
should be host addresses, not network addresses.  0.0.0.0 does not 
mean default, but rather none.

Perhaps a bigger example will make it clearer...

(Abbreviated) routing table:

Destination  Gateway  Iface
192.168.1.0/24   0.0.0.0  eth0
192.168.2.0/24   192.168.1.254(eth0)
192.168.3.0/24   192.168.1.253(eth0)
209.226.71.0/24  0.0.0.0  eth1
0.0.0.0/0209.226.71.1 (eth1)

This is your setup, but I've added two more local nets that have 
gateways on the 192.168.1.0 network.

The interfaces in parenthesis are computed by the routing algorithm, 
not set by route or ifconfig.

If you send a packet to 192.168.1.34, the routing algorithm would see 
that you have a direct connection (no gateway) to 192.168.1.0/24, which 
is the network for your destination, so it would know to send through 
the eth0 interface directly to 192.168.1.34.

If you send a packet to 192.168.2.34, the routing algorithm would see 
that 192.168.1.254 is the gateway, and it's precomputed that the 
gateway is on eth0, so it would send your packet for ...2.34 to 
...1.254 on eth0.  Similarly, a packet to ...3.34 would be sent to 
...1.2553 on eth0.  Presumably, the two gateways would forward it along.

If you sent a packet to 208.4.23.5, the routing algorithm would see 
that there is no defined route to that machine, so it uses the default 
route, and sends it to 209.226.71.1 for forwarding.

Clearer?

 
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