Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-22 Thread Joel Mayes
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 08:36:47PM -0400, Sean wrote:
 On Monday 21 May 2001 20:15, Joel Mayes wrote:
  
 
 --snip--
 
  To be honest I couldn't say as I don't have windows on by box, I just
  spotted this program at /. where it was the subject of sum debate, there
  web page has some screen shots showing a windows box runing 2 or 3 X apps
  simultanency, thing like Ghostscript, bash and I think The Gimp.
  You probably take a bit of a performance hit, but new computers are
   over powered anyway,
 
  Cheers
  Joel
 
 Funny you should list those particular apps ... as each one can be run 
 natively under Windows. Nice thing about open source, porting isn't illegal.
 
 Sean
 
LOL, you could save disk space by only have one copy of the prog on your HD
if your dual booting,
you could probably run something like procmail, which AFAIK isn't portable.

LOL again.

Joel


 
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Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-21 Thread Peter Hicks
On Friday 18 May 2001 15:33, Jonathan Daugherty wrote:
 Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a linux
 box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a windows box, in
 the same way that X apps can be run over networks?

I think you can use vnc for such purposes...



Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-21 Thread Joel Mayes
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 11:01:49AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 on Sat, May 19, 2001 at 06:43:11PM +1000, Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 wrote:
  Quoth Joel Mayes, 
   On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:33:46PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty wrote:
Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a
linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a
windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks?
  
   G'day Jonathan,
   
   You might look at LINE, a program that attempts to be for windows what 
   WINE 
   is for Linux, it's still in Alpha development.
   
   http://line.sourceforge.net/
  
  Try WeirdX 
  
  http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/
  
  It's a free X implementation in Java which runs on Windows. 
 
 Interesting.  How's performance?
 
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G'day Karsten,

To be honest I couldn't say as I don't have windows on by box, I just spotted
this program at /. where it was the subject of sum debate, there web page has
some screen shots showing a windows box runing 2 or 3 X apps simultanency, 
thing like Ghostscript, bash and I think The Gimp. 
You probably take a bit of a performance hit, but new computers are 
 over powered anyway,

Cheers
Joel
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Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-21 Thread Sean
On Monday 21 May 2001 20:15, Joel Mayes wrote:
 

--snip--

 To be honest I couldn't say as I don't have windows on by box, I just
 spotted this program at /. where it was the subject of sum debate, there
 web page has some screen shots showing a windows box runing 2 or 3 X apps
 simultanency, thing like Ghostscript, bash and I think The Gimp.
 You probably take a bit of a performance hit, but new computers are
  over powered anyway,

 Cheers
 Joel

Funny you should list those particular apps ... as each one can be run 
natively under Windows. Nice thing about open source, porting isn't illegal.

Sean



Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-19 Thread Joel Mayes
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:33:46PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty wrote:
 Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a linux 
 box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a
 windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks?
 
 
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 The University of Georgia
 
 
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G'day Jonathan,

You might look at LINE, a program that attempts to be for windows what WINE 
is for Linux, it's still in Alpha development.

http://line.sourceforge.net/

 

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Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-19 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Joel Mayes, 
 On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:33:46PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty wrote:
  Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a
  linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a
  windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks?

 G'day Jonathan,
 
 You might look at LINE, a program that attempts to be for windows what WINE 
 is for Linux, it's still in Alpha development.
 
 http://line.sourceforge.net/

Try WeirdX 

http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/

It's a free X implementation in Java which runs on Windows. 

cheers,

damon

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Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, May 19, 2001 at 06:43:11PM +1000, Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Quoth Joel Mayes, 
  On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:33:46PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty wrote:
   Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a
   linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a
   windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks?
 
  G'day Jonathan,
  
  You might look at LINE, a program that attempts to be for windows what WINE 
  is for Linux, it's still in Alpha development.
  
  http://line.sourceforge.net/
 
 Try WeirdX 
 
 http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/
 
 It's a free X implementation in Java which runs on Windows. 

Interesting.  How's performance?

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Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-18 Thread Jonathan Daugherty
Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a linux box 
in such a way that it can be used across a network on a
windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks?


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Jonathan Daugherty
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The University of Georgia



Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-18 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Jonathan Daugherty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010518 17:44]:

 Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on
 a linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a
 windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks?

I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but VNC might work for
you. It's website is here: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/

I used in the past with a Linux box. The machine I accessed it from, or
ran the VNC client from, was a Win NT4 box.

Hall



Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-18 Thread D-Man
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:33:46PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty wrote:
| Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a
| linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a
| windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks?

Cygwin has XFree86 with it, though I didn't get it to work.  I usually
use the demo version of XWin32.  The older demo that I use allows 2
hours of use before you must quit the xserver and run it again.  A
while ago I saw a newer demo that only allowed for 30 minutes.

Try searching on google for  Windows and XServer.

-D



Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:33:46PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a
 linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a
 windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks?

You're looking for an X server.

I don't know of any _good_ free X servers for Legacy MS Windows, though
Mi/X is free, it fails the first criterion.

Other vendor options:  XWin32, by StarNet, is a reasonably priced (about
US$125 per seat) X server that I've demoed.  It's acceptable, and runs
(as do many current X server products) in both full screen and
locally managed mode.  

http://www.starnet.com/products/

Full screen projects a Unix desktop onto your local system, locally
managed mingles your X applications with locally served applications --
they behave as though they were running from your local PC.  Both modes
support copy and paste between X and PC applications.

A free 30-day time-limited demo is available for download.


I've also used and would recommend the Hummingbird and Reflection X
products (http://www.wrq.com/), though they are rather more expensive.


Another approach, is VNC, for Virtual Network Computer.  

  http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ 

Screenshots:

  http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/screenshots.html
  
Rather than serve the X session on the PC, VNC maintains the entire
session state on the server.  A viewer application is run on the client,
to display this image -- both native and Java clients are available.
Cut and paste between local and VNC apps is supported.

It's possible to close or move the client independently of the server --
you don't lose session state if your PC crashes, you can move the
display among different workstations, and you can even export the entire
session over the Internet (several ASP solutions are based on VNC).
Note that when forwarding connections over an unsecured network you
should tunnel through an appropriate protocol such as ssh or PVN.

Instructions here:  http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/sshvnc.html


Advantages:  portable, stateless, open, no X server required on client.

Disadvantages:  heavier server load, slower than X or native display,
unsecured (though VNC can be tunneled through SSH).

Cheers.

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