SID out of Date ??

2001-07-13 Thread Case, Benjamin
 I am currently d/l all the SID Cd images from
 ftp://ftp.uni-bremen.de/pub/mirrors/debian_cdimages/debian-unofficial/sid/
 . 
 I noticed that they are all dated 3/10/2001. How far behind will these
 discs be ?
 
 ben



Re: SID out of Date ??

2001-07-13 Thread D-Man
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 03:53:45PM -0400, Case, Benjamin wrote:
|  I am currently d/l all the SID Cd images from
|  ftp://ftp.uni-bremen.de/pub/mirrors/debian_cdimages/debian-unofficial/sid/
|  . 
|  I noticed that they are all dated 3/10/2001. How far behind will these
|  discs be ?

They'll be as out-of-date as the date on them.  Sid changes constantly
as developers upload new packages.  Any CD is, therefore, out-of-date
almost immediately after its creation.  If you want CDs that aren't
out-of-date get Potato discs.  Of course, much of the software in
Potato is out-of-date because development has continued.  :-)

-D



RE: SID out of Date ??

2001-07-13 Thread Case, Benjamin
That makes complete sence. Is 3/10 ancient times as far as SID is concerned
? I just want to work with the 2.4 kernel, some Xfree 4 stuff, and I know
that there are SID level dependancies that I will need to meet for those.
This is just temporary until my DSL comesso I am d/l all of SID to have
for the next week or so. Does that sound like a good apporach, or am I goin
overboard. I just dont want to find myself in search of Packages without any
internet to get them with.

ben

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Subject: Re: SID out of Date ??


On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 03:53:45PM -0400, Case, Benjamin wrote:
|  I am currently d/l all the SID Cd images from
| 
ftp://ftp.uni-bremen.de/pub/mirrors/debian_cdimages/debian-unofficial/sid/
|  . 
|  I noticed that they are all dated 3/10/2001. How far behind will these
|  discs be ?

They'll be as out-of-date as the date on them.  Sid changes constantly
as developers upload new packages.  Any CD is, therefore, out-of-date
almost immediately after its creation.  If you want CDs that aren't
out-of-date get Potato discs.  Of course, much of the software in
Potato is out-of-date because development has continued.  :-)

-D


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Re: SID out of Date ??

2001-07-13 Thread D-Man
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 04:46:58PM -0400, Case, Benjamin wrote:
| That makes complete sence. Is 3/10 ancient times as far as SID is

March is ancient in OSS terms.

| concerned ? I just want to work with the 2.4 kernel, some Xfree 4
| stuff, and I know that there are SID level dependancies that I will

Nope, I have woody on my box and X4 is really nice.  I downloaded (via
apt-get) kernel 2.4 but I haven't installed it yet since I know it
will either work or fsck my modutils (which would make 2.2 unusable).

| need to meet for those.  This is just temporary until my DSL
| comesso I am d/l all of SID to have for the next week or so.
| Does that sound like a good apporach, or am I goin overboard. I just
| dont want to find myself in search of Packages without any internet
| to get them with.

I'd recommend getting Potato CDs to install from.  Then download the
packages you want, and any dependencies from woody to put on
removeable media (CD-R works fine, or zip disk, or move a hard drive,
whatever).  packages.debian.org will list all the packages and the
dependencies each package has.

If you have a dial-up connection that you don't pay
per-[minute|byte|whatever] you can use it to download stuff overnight.
(I only have dial-up at the moment so that's what I do).

Point sources.lst to woody and

apt-get update
apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade

YMMV on the dist-upgrade though.  Several weeks ago I had no
show-stopper problems.


Getting every package is going overboard since, presumably, you don't
use every package.  Just get the ones you need.

-D



Re: SID out of Date ??

2001-07-13 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Case, Benjamin wrote:
 
 That makes complete sence. Is 3/10 ancient times as far as SID is concerned
 ? I just want to work with the 2.4 kernel, some Xfree 4 stuff, and I know
 that there are SID level dependancies that I will need to meet for those.
 This is just temporary until my DSL comesso I am d/l all of SID to have
 for the next week or so. Does that sound like a good apporach, or am I goin
 overboard. I just dont want to find myself in search of Packages without any
 internet to get them with.

If you only want to run potato with a 2.4 kernel, then you might want to
take a look at 
deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main 
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main

There you'll find potato packages for almost any software you need to
run a 2.4 kernel taken from sid and recompiled for potato.  I use for
two month now on my router, firewall, fileserver, etc. and it works
flawlessly.

Ciao,
Viktor
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