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John, please send all your messages to debian-user. Maintainer of scribus also CC'd (probably should have got original mail.) Please CC John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com as he does not appear to be subscribed. - Forwarded message from John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com - User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 From: John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:32:34 -0400 To: Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz Subject: Re: [jesus.nava...@undominio.net: Re: Scribus versions-CROSSPOSTED] On Saturday 27 June 2009 08:13:15 am you wrote: Ask to be CC'd if you are not subscribed to debian-user. - Forwarded message from Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net - User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 From: Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:28:51 +0200 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Scribus versions-CROSSPOSTED Hi, John: On Saturday 20 June 2009 01:01:04 John Culleton wrote: One more time: The only stable version of Scribus today is 1.3.3.13. 1.3.5 is unstable and always will be. 1.3.4 is both unstable and abandoned. The next stable version (after 1.3.3.x) will be 1.40. [...] And please make the powers that be know in the debian and debian-derivative world that Scribus 1.3.5 is not for binary download. What do you mean? Current Scribus version on Debian Stable is 1.3.3.12 so your point is? 1.3.3.12 is not the latest stable version. 1.3.3.13 is. Often users will opt for Debian unstable just to get the latest versions of packages. But builders of software apps, including Scribus and Krita, would prefer if the unstable versions of their packages not be used by anyhone for production work. There are too many tear-stained messages from those who are using (against all advice) the unstable version for production work. Something bad happens, they can't complete their project properly, but in the case of Scribus at least they can't back up to a stable version without starting all over. 1.3.5 files can't be read by 1.3.3.X. The format changed with 1.3.4. So the program authors prefer that the unstable versions not be included in any distribution. Those who want to experiment with an unstable version can download the latest overnight version with SVN, compile it and toy to their heart's content. Their fiddling is indeed essential to the development process. The problem is with the definition of stable/unstable in the world of Debian, Slackware etc. Too often the stable release is behind the times significantly. Using the standard tools in the Debian distro you have two bad choices, live with an obsolete release or take chances with an unstable one. The latest stable release falls through the cracks. Those who develop both Scribus and Krita prefer that the unstable version not be included in any binary release. I am only passing on the message. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html - End forwarded message - -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Scribus versions-CROSSPOSTED
On Fri,19.Jun.09, 19:01:04, John Culleton wrote: Mandriva etc. lists please pass the word. And please make the powers that be know in the debian and debian-derivative world that Scribus 1.3.5 is not for binary download. It is updated nightly for the svn users and definitely not ready for prime time. Never will be with that number. If you want to reach the maintainer of (and all other people interested in) a particular package you can write to package-name@packages.debian.org Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Scribus versions-CROSSPOSTED
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 03:28:51 +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On Saturday 20 June 2009 01:01:04 John Culleton wrote: One more time: The only stable version of Scribus today is 1.3.3.13. 1.3.5 is unstable and always will be. 1.3.4 is both unstable and abandoned. The next stable version (after 1.3.3.x) will be 1.40. [...] And please make the powers that be know in the debian and debian-derivative world that Scribus 1.3.5 is not for binary download. According to what authority? The license seems to be GPL V2+ and Debian provides the source packages for the all the binaries that are distributed. What do you mean? Current Scribus version on Debian Stable is 1.3.3.12 ... and unstable has version 1.3.3.13 ... so your point is? He probably means the scribus-ng package, which provides a snapshot of the developmental branch for users who want to try new features as they are being implemented. The package description explains this very clearly its first paragraph. If he thinks that the description is not good enough then he can file a wishlist bug against the scribus-ng package with suggestions for improvement; cross-posting rants to Debian and Ubuntu user lists is unlikely to change anything. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Scribus versions-CROSSPOSTED
One more time: The only stable version of Scribus today is 1.3.3.13. 1.3.5 is unstable and always will be. 1.3.4 is both unstable and abandoned. The next stable version (after 1.3.3.x) will be 1.40. Any distribution that defaults to Scribus 1.3.5 for a binary download is in error. When it becomes stable it won't be called 1.3.5 any more but 1.4.0. I post this because lots of folks are coming in to the Scribus list complaining that when they downloaded Scribus from their distro they got 1.3.5, and it is full of bugs. Yes folks, that is what unstable means, buggy. If you have access to Suse, Fedora, Mandriva etc. lists please pass the word. And please make the powers that be know in the debian and debian-derivative world that Scribus 1.3.5 is not for binary download. It is updated nightly for the svn users and definitely not ready for prime time. Never will be with that number. Thanks for your attention. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Scribus versions-CROSSPOSTED
Hi, John: On Saturday 20 June 2009 01:01:04 John Culleton wrote: One more time: The only stable version of Scribus today is 1.3.3.13. 1.3.5 is unstable and always will be. 1.3.4 is both unstable and abandoned. The next stable version (after 1.3.3.x) will be 1.40. [...] And please make the powers that be know in the debian and debian-derivative world that Scribus 1.3.5 is not for binary download. What do you mean? Current Scribus version on Debian Stable is 1.3.3.12 so your point is? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
