Re: Sid and Squeeze /etc/network/interfaces error
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 14:16 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: godo wrote: does anybody notice that /etc/network/interfaces has changed? I notice that on my Sid and Squeeze box when I boot to single user mode for update and there wasn't networking. /etc/network/interfaces had # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp Ok it's not a big deal but can frighten you :-) This is a consequence of network-manager. You can follow most of the discussion here in this bug. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024 Network Manager only manages interfaces that are *NOT* listed in the system /etc/network/interfaces file. Personally, I use the managed=true option in NetworkManager.conf so NM *does* manage the interface. This way I get a network configured from /etc/network/interfaces if I don't boot into a GUI, and automatic wireless/wired switching when I use a GUI. So I've had to remove the new hack from the interfaces file, I hope it doesn't keep getting added back in on every NM package update. -- Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org) /\ Against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1291063660.2003.14.ca...@computer2.home
Re: Sid and Squeeze /etc/network/interfaces error
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 02:16:41PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Network Manager only manages interfaces that are *NOT* listed in the system /etc/network/interfaces file. This means that other programs Does this crappy software now recognize if the system has no eth0 configured but vlan2, vlan3 and vlan4 on top of eth0? I have some desktops with such configuration, and when I first got involved with this stupid software, it deleted all routes and tried to configure eth0 via DHCP (which obviously failed) leaving the host unreachable. So I normally disable the software. I fail to see the reason for Network Manager. If people want to use Windows, they should do it. In Debian interfaces are configured in /etc/network/interfaces, and this file should not be touched by crappy software. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sid and Squeeze /etc/network/interfaces error
On Lu, 29 nov 10, 22:05:07, Stephan Seitz wrote: I fail to see the reason for Network Manager. If people want to use Windows, they should do it. In Debian interfaces are configured in /etc/network/interfaces, and this file should not be touched by crappy software. It's useful for people who switch a lot between different networks and/or technologies. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Sid and Squeeze /etc/network/interfaces error
Hi all, does anybody notice that /etc/network/interfaces has changed? I notice that on my Sid and Squeeze box when I boot to single user mode for update and there wasn't networking. /etc/network/interfaces had # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp Ok it's not a big deal but can frighten you :-) -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cf28be2.2000...@dobosevic.com
Re: Sid and Squeeze /etc/network/interfaces error
godo wrote: does anybody notice that /etc/network/interfaces has changed? I notice that on my Sid and Squeeze box when I boot to single user mode for update and there wasn't networking. /etc/network/interfaces had # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp Ok it's not a big deal but can frighten you :-) This is a consequence of network-manager. You can follow most of the discussion here in this bug. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024 Network Manager only manages interfaces that are *NOT* listed in the system /etc/network/interfaces file. This means that other programs such as Evolution that ask NM (through the D-bus interface) if the host has networking will think that no networking is available when in fact networking is actually available. If Evolution thinks that no networking is available then it will force offline mode breaking it severely. When Debian is installed almost invariably the default installation will leave eth0 configured for DHCP. That has been great in the past. But now it is in conflict with the way network-manager wants things. Meaning that a default installation and then upgrade isn't correct. As a workaround network-manager now comments out the specification for the wired interface. That removes it from the file and then network-manager will manage it and report correctly on whether the host has networking or not to other tools such as evolution that ask about it. To me that seems like a nasty hack. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sid and Squeeze /etc/network/interfaces error
To me that seems like a nasty hack. Bob To me also, I was think that programer forgot to put \n in cod or something like that and that this is a bug. Thanks for replay. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cf2ceac.6010...@dobosevic.com
