Re: Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff]

1998-08-20 Thread phillip Neumann
>On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 01:02:14PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
>> Michele Bini hat gesagt: // Michele Bini wrote:
>> 
>> > On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:37:15 PDT , phillip Neumann  said:
>> Unfortunatley SLab refuses to work with my old and dusty Mozart 
soundcard, 
>> so I can't say anything regarding its functionality.
>
>I've installed it, but didn't really get anywhere with it.  To do what
>I really want it to do, anyway, I'd need to buy the full duplex
>drivers for my SoundBlaster AWE32.
>
>My question: has anyone used the SB AWE32 with slab and had good
>results?
>
>Thanks!


Hi, im wondering how did you install slab. I coulndt install it, because 
some problems with locating tcl. Maybe you can send me your file...8-)
I have been smelling ALSA, the new driver for soundcards... it sounds 
grate, and it support full duplex on AWE32. Im trying to install it in 
my PC...ahhh its free...

page:  http://alsa.jcu.cz/



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Re: Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff]

1998-08-19 Thread the lone gunman
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 01:02:14PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Michele Bini hat gesagt: // Michele Bini wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:37:15 PDT , phillip Neumann  said:
> Unfortunatley SLab refuses to work with my old and dusty Mozart soundcard, 
> so I can't say anything regarding its functionality.

I've installed it, but didn't really get anywhere with it.  To do what
I really want it to do, anyway, I'd need to buy the full duplex
drivers for my SoundBlaster AWE32.

My question: has anyone used the SB AWE32 with slab and had good
results?

Thanks!


Re: Linuxmusicface=0 was ( Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff] )

1998-08-18 Thread Mark Panzer
phillip Neumann wrote:
> 
> Hi debian,
> 
> Well i have be searching about a long time for sound application. And i
> get to the conclusion that for musicans, linux is crap. Music people
> cannot do music on computer with this OP. I found this pretty bad. Here
> could exist very better app. that for win/Mac. Linux is much more free
> that those, then, there could be much more free application. And thats
> what musican (at least me) are searching for. Freedom for creations
> 

Linux isn't the "crap", you should be refering to the lack of
applications that exist.  If you need one so bad you should start a
project to create one, join debian-devel., learn C, etc... That's how
the Linux/GNU thing works, everyone pitches in.  If you don't like it
improve it!

Mark Panzer
> finnaly to end with my sound questions where can i find sound apps??
> 
> >> Well sorry for this questio, but what is GUS ??
> >GUS means Gravis UltraSound and is a sound card like the AWE 32. It is
> >'inclined' to play MOD files.
> >
> >> I need to load soundbanks and create them too. Im searching for a
> >> program that can do edition of soundbanks... if someone knows about
> one
> >> please tell me...
> >>
> >In the Debian awe-utils package I found some interesting programs:
> >with them you can traslate soundbanks to/from textual representation
> and
> >to/from gus-patches. I never tried it, but you should be able to edit
> the
> >textual representation with an ordinary text editor and translate it
> back
> >to the sfx format or use a gus-patch editor to modify your soundbank
> >(but I am not much informed on such editors).
> >
> >> > Where have you downloaded it? ... maybe I can compile it and make a
> >> > Debian package from it.
> >>
> >> Slab seems an interesting program. A Debian user recomend me this
> >> program. I forgot his name. but i didnt forgot the addres where i got
> >> slab, its at shareware music machine:
> >>
> >> http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Slab_Recording_Studio_Software/
> >Unfortunately it is shareware, and it is VERY big (over 2 Mb) for my
> VERY
> >slow internet connection.
> >
> >> PS: I cannot find information on thats ``ACI MIXER'' at the kernel
> >> configurartion...someone has? Whe i select this, sound initialization
> >> becomes very slow at my system...
> >It seems to be a driver for the miroSOUND card, which enables full
> duplex.
> >Sound initialization may be slow probably because the kernel tries to
> detect
> >that card.
> >For more info on it read the file
> /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/lowlevel/aci.c
> >
> >Ciao
> >Michele
> >
> 
> I have check slab page again, and yes, its shareware :-(
> I will give awe-utils a try...
> 
> Thanks for all the information,
> Phillip Neumann
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Re: Linuxmusicface=0 was ( Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff] )

1998-08-18 Thread Rick Macdonald
> > phillip Neumann wrote:
> > >
> > > Well i have be searching about a long time for sound application. And i
> > > get to the conclusion that for musicans, linux is crap. Music people
> > > cannot do music on computer with this OP. I found this pretty bad.

PLEASE have a look at Dave Phillips's wonderful page of sound
applications, which includes apps for synthesis, soundfiles, music
notation, MIDI, apps that are known to run under wine and dosemu, and
_much_ more:

http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linux_soundapps.html
 
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Re: Linuxmusicface=0 was ( Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff] )

1998-08-18 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra wrote:

> phillip Neumann wrote:
> > 
> > Well i have be searching about a long time for sound application. And i
> > get to the conclusion that for musicans, linux is crap. Music people
> > cannot do music on computer with this OP. I found this pretty bad. Here
> > could exist very better app. that for win/Mac. Linux is much more free
> > that those, then, there could be much more free application. And thats
> > what musican (at least me) are searching for. Freedom for creations
> > 
> > finnaly to end with my sound questions where can i find sound apps??
> 
> 
>   From my bookmarks file:
> 
> http://www.bath.ac.uk/~masjpf/rose.html
> http://cardit.et.tudelft.nl/~card06/
> http://www.cubic.org/player/
> http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/hanwen/lilypond/
> 
> 
>   You can find much more at http://www.linux.org./,
> http://sal.kachina.com./ and such sites.

Perhaps there should be something on the debian site - where to find other
software (including examples such as the above - i.e. packages recommended
by debian users), and guidelines for installing them.

Matthew

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Re: Linuxmusicface=0 was ( Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff] )

1998-08-18 Thread Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
phillip Neumann wrote:
> 
> Well i have be searching about a long time for sound application. And i
> get to the conclusion that for musicans, linux is crap. Music people
> cannot do music on computer with this OP. I found this pretty bad. Here
> could exist very better app. that for win/Mac. Linux is much more free
> that those, then, there could be much more free application. And thats
> what musican (at least me) are searching for. Freedom for creations
> 
> finnaly to end with my sound questions where can i find sound apps??


From my bookmarks file:

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~masjpf/rose.html
http://cardit.et.tudelft.nl/~card06/
http://www.cubic.org/player/
http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/hanwen/lilypond/


You can find much more at http://www.linux.org./,
http://sal.kachina.com./ and such sites.

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Re: Linuxmusicface=0 was ( Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff] )

1998-08-18 Thread Greg Starkes
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, phillip Neumann wrote:

> Hi debian,
> 
> Well i have be searching about a long time for sound application. And i 
> get to the conclusion that for musicans, linux is crap. Music people 
> cannot do music on computer with this OP. I found this pretty bad. Here 
> could exist very better app. that for win/Mac. Linux is much more free 
> that those, then, there could be much more free application. And thats 
> what musican (at least me) are searching for. Freedom for creations

I guess there aren't any musicians ouot there who want to write a music
program for Linux. Maybe I will try my hand at it when I get better at
programming. Any one else interested in giving it a try?

> finnaly to end with my sound questions where can i find sound apps??

I guess that depends on what sound card you have. There are several apps
for certain cards (GUS, AWE). It also depends oon what you want to do. If
you want to compose music, I believe that the only thing out there is a
mod tracker, and I can't remember where that is. I'll see if I can track
it down.

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Re: Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff]

1998-08-18 Thread Frank Barknecht
Michele Bini hat gesagt: // Michele Bini wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:37:15 PDT , phillip Neumann  said:

[...]

> > Slab seems an interesting program. A Debian user recomend me this 
> > program. 

Might have been me ;)

> > I forgot his name. but i didnt forgot the addres where i got 
> > slab, its at shareware music machine:
> > 
> > http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Slab_Recording_Studio_Software/
> Unfortunately it is shareware, and it is VERY big (over 2 Mb) for my VERY
> slow internet connection.

I am not sure how "share" this ware is. The "About" textbox says:

"This Distribution is in binary format only...
The software has no purchase price, it is free."

I think at least a debian installer like the ones for Netscape or 
Star Office would be nice. 

Slab is also available on Sunsite and mirrors and if you're lucky, you can
get it on a CD-Rom collection that includes the sunsite archiv like 
Infomagic's. 

Installation is really quite simple because the slab package includes
all the tcl/tk stuff that's necessary. One only has to unpack it in a
convenient place (I chose my $HOME-dir) and edit the startSLab scripts
for bash or csh appropriatly.

Unfortunatley SLab refuses to work with my old and dusty Mozart soundcard, 
so I can't say anything regarding its functionality.
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Linuxmusicface=0 was ( Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff] )

1998-08-18 Thread phillip Neumann
Hi debian,





Well i have be searching about a long time for sound application. And i 
get to the conclusion that for musicans, linux is crap. Music people 
cannot do music on computer with this OP. I found this pretty bad. Here 
could exist very better app. that for win/Mac. Linux is much more free 
that those, then, there could be much more free application. And thats 
what musican (at least me) are searching for. Freedom for creations

finnaly to end with my sound questions where can i find sound apps??   











>> Well sorry for this questio, but what is GUS ??
>GUS means Gravis UltraSound and is a sound card like the AWE 32. It is
>'inclined' to play MOD files.
>
>> I need to load soundbanks and create them too. Im searching for a 
>> program that can do edition of soundbanks... if someone knows about 
one 
>> please tell me...
>> 
>In the Debian awe-utils package I found some interesting programs:
>with them you can traslate soundbanks to/from textual representation 
and
>to/from gus-patches. I never tried it, but you should be able to edit 
the
>textual representation with an ordinary text editor and translate it 
back
>to the sfx format or use a gus-patch editor to modify your soundbank
>(but I am not much informed on such editors).
>
>> > Where have you downloaded it? ... maybe I can compile it and make a
>> > Debian package from it.
>> 
>> Slab seems an interesting program. A Debian user recomend me this 
>> program. I forgot his name. but i didnt forgot the addres where i got 
>> slab, its at shareware music machine:
>> 
>> http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Slab_Recording_Studio_Software/
>Unfortunately it is shareware, and it is VERY big (over 2 Mb) for my 
VERY
>slow internet connection.
>
>> PS: I cannot find information on thats ``ACI MIXER'' at the kernel 
>> configurartion...someone has? Whe i select this, sound initialization 
>> becomes very slow at my system...
>It seems to be a driver for the miroSOUND card, which enables full 
duplex.
>Sound initialization may be slow probably because the kernel tries to 
detect
>that card.
>For more info on it read the file 
/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/lowlevel/aci.c
>
>Ciao
>Michele
>














I have check slab page again, and yes, its shareware :-(
I will give awe-utils a try...





Thanks for all the information,
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Re: Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff]

1998-08-17 Thread Michele Bini

On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:37:15 PDT , phillip Neumann  said:
> Well sorry for this questio, but what is GUS ??
GUS means Gravis UltraSound and is a sound card like the AWE 32. It is
'inclined' to play MOD files.

> I need to load soundbanks and create them too. Im searching for a 
> program that can do edition of soundbanks... if someone knows about one 
> please tell me...
> 
In the Debian awe-utils package I found some interesting programs:
with them you can traslate soundbanks to/from textual representation and
to/from gus-patches. I never tried it, but you should be able to edit the
textual representation with an ordinary text editor and translate it back
to the sfx format or use a gus-patch editor to modify your soundbank
(but I am not much informed on such editors).

> > Where have you downloaded it? ... maybe I can compile it and make a
> > Debian package from it.
> 
> Slab seems an interesting program. A Debian user recomend me this 
> program. I forgot his name. but i didnt forgot the addres where i got 
> slab, its at shareware music machine:
> 
> http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Slab_Recording_Studio_Software/
Unfortunately it is shareware, and it is VERY big (over 2 Mb) for my VERY
slow internet connection.

> PS: I cannot find information on thats ``ACI MIXER'' at the kernel 
> configurartion...someone has? Whe i select this, sound initialization 
> becomes very slow at my system...
It seems to be a driver for the miroSOUND card, which enables full duplex.
Sound initialization may be slow probably because the kernel tries to detect
that card.
For more info on it read the file /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/lowlevel/aci.c

Ciao
Michele



Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff]

1998-08-17 Thread phillip Neumann
Hi


>There should already be something for the GUS.
>If you only need to load soundbanks, simply use sfxload.

Well sorry for this questio, but what is GUS ??
I need to load soundbanks and create them too. Im searching for a 
program that can do edition of soundbanks... if someone knows about one 
please tell me...

>Where have you downloaded it? ... maybe I can compile it and make a
>Debian package from it.

Slab seems an interesting program. A Debian user recomend me this 
program. I forgot his name. but i didnt forgot the addres where i got 
slab, its at shareware music machine:

http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Slab_Recording_Studio_Software/



PS: I cannot find information on thats ``ACI MIXER'' at the kernel 
configurartion...someone has? Whe i select this, sound initialization 
becomes very slow at my system...


Thanks, bye
Phillip Neumann
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