Re: De Slink a Potato o Woody
Oscar M. Seoane escribió: Antonio Lemus escribió: Ok explico. Para actualizar de Slink a Potato tienes que poner las suigietes lineas en el archivo /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free luego le das apt-get update cuando termine le das un apt-get dist-upgrade con esto te hace un upgrade de la distribucion o version que en este caso es potato Para instalar gnome no te recominedo con lynx pues para eso tienes que ser root y puede ser peligroso hacer eso. Una regale de oro es nunca ejecutar root de forma remota o una aplicacion en forma remota Asi que ya que termines pones la siguente direccion el sources.list deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main y le vuelves a dar un apt-get update -- Ing. Jose A. Lemus Administrador de Redes y Telecomunicaciones Grupo Plastival -- Muchas gracias por la ayuda. Ya estoy actualizado a Potato, pero he tenido problemas al instalar Gnome, debido quizá al tipo de conexión de Internet, asi que ya lo he hecho desde CD. La verdad es que no sabía que hubiera tantas diferencias entre distribuciones. Siempre había utilizado RedHat, pero la versión 7.0 me ha desilusionado bastante, asi que por eso decidí cambiar para bien (espero). Ahora sólo queda familiarizarme con Debian, lo que espero hacer pronto. Por cierto, ¿el procedimiento para crear paquetes .deb es similar al de los .rpm ? ¿Puedes recomendarme algún libro comercial sobre esta distribución para consultarlo en momentos críticos? ¿Qué diferencias destacarías en cuanto a utilización se refiere entre Debian y RedHat? Me refiero principalmente a su utilización en modo texto (comandos como apt-get, que RedHat no admite, etc). Muchas gracias por tu ayuda y recibe un saludo. Oscar.
Re: De Slink a Potato o Woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El lun, 19 de mar de 2001, a las 08:23:43 -0600, Oscar M. Seoane dijo: Quisiera saber qué es exactamente lo que debo de hacer para poder actualizarme desde la consola; me refiero a que tipo de comandos debo de utilizar. lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh Para actualizar a woody no tengo aqui las lineas para apt, pero si tengo las de gnome: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main Añades esta linea a tu fichero /etc/apt/sources.list junto con las de woody que te pasen por aqui. Despues ejecutas como root apt-get update, veras que empieza a conectarse a varios servidores. Cuando termine ejecutas apt-get install task-helix-gnome y te bajara e instalara todo el paquete gnome. - -- La Pipa és como la Bella Durmiente.. Despertémosla , cuidad de su aspecto, símbolo de paz, Nos recuerda que todos somos hermanos.. (A. Herment ) amphora at escomposlinux dot org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6uIkobxRsnxqoy84RAvOHAJ96LD91iyxwjZOx0ZOmwJIvzIakOQCeKioP 9G5+9e53ws+kFG3LasEQJ/4= =ulh7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
De Slink a Potato o Woody
¡Hola! Soy totalmente nuevo con Debian. Tengo recien instalada la versión Slink en modo texto y quisiera actualizar todos los paquetes a Potato o Woody (¿Cuál me recomendáis?). Quisiera saber qué es exactamente lo que debo de hacer para poder actualizarme desde la consola; me refiero a que tipo de comandos debo de utilizar. Tambien quisiera saber si una vez actualizado es factible descargar e instalar Gnome desde internet con Lynx, ejecutando : lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh o si por el contrario me recomendáis instalarlo a mano desde un CD. Esta última cuestión la planteo porque en la página de gnome hace referencia a la compatibilidad de este escritorio con Debian, pero a la hora de seleccionar Debian para descargar e instalar Gnome, no aparece por ningún lado. Muchas gracias por anticipado y salu2.
lpr en slink y potato
Hola Tengo 2 equipos con lprng, uno es slink y otro potato. En el potato, hago lpr nombrefichero.txt siendo este fichero la leche de largo, y me devuelve el control inmediatamente y continua la impresion en background. En slink no devuelve el control hasta que la tarea ha sido entregada a la impresora. No digo ya nada cuando la impresora está apagada y hasta que no la enciendes no devuelve el control. He revisado los ficheros lpd.conf y printcap de lprng de slink y potato, y no veo diferencias. ¿Algún comportamiento por defecto que ha cambiado en potato? el changelog no dice nada... Saludos y gracias. -- Andres Seco Hernandez, MCP ID 445900 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andressh GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/3A48C934 E61C 08A9 EBC8 12E4 F363 E359 EDAC BE0B 3A48 C934 -- Alamin GSM SMS Gateway - http://alamin.sourceforge.net Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org pgpozAow8vvhc.pgp Description: PGP signature
pasar postgesql de slink a potato
Tengo una base en postgresql en slink. Ayer pasé este pc de slink a potato sin ningún problema, excepto la base de datos. He leído la migración que indica Debian y dando los comandos que vienen no he sido capaz de actualizar la base de datos. Tengo guardado en backup la versión 6.3. Her usado los siguiente: # su - postgres $ postgresql-dump -t db.out -cilfdp $PGDATA/../data.saveaunque he tenido que modificar el $PGDATA quitándolo y he usado este comando: # su - postgres $ postgresql-dump -t db.out -cilfdp ../data.save También he usado el otro que recomiendan # su - postgres $ postgresql-dump -t db.out -dcilp ../data.save e incluso el volcado a fichero por partes: postgresql-dump -t fichero # dump to tape postgresql-dump -c -t fichero# check tape dump postgresql-dump -d -t fichero -i -l # destroy the old database # create a new one and # load the dump En todos los casos me crea un fichero de comandos que en teoría (creo) los intenta recargar de nuevo para crear la nueva estructura de datos en 6.5. El caso es que con los dos primeros comandos no encuentra el db.out. El db.out se crea pero luego dice que no encuentra el db.out. He usado el strace para intentar averiguar donde lo va a buscar pero el strace no me da el camino entero. Con la última solución ya encuentra el fichero pero al intentar regenerar la base de datos dice que recarga fallida y la base de datos que crea no tiene las tablas correctas. ¿Alguien ha pasado de 6.3 a 6.5 en postgresql con este procedimiento ? o ha usado otro aunque sea más rupestre. ¿alguien me puede explicar como lo ha hecho? Muchas gracias y Saludos al grupo.
Re: pasar postgesql de slink a potato
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no he sido capaz de actualizar la base de datos. Tengo guardado en backup la versión 6.3. ... ¿Alguien ha pasado de 6.3 a 6.5 en postgresql con este procedimiento ? o ha usado otro aunque sea más rupestre. ¿alguien me puede explicar como lo ha hecho? Yo lo que he visto es que el procedimiento automático falla incluso entre versiones próximas como 6.4 y 6.5, si no has ido actualizando todas las subversiones Debian de la 6.4. Te recomiendo que hagas lo siguiente que me ha resultado mas fácil y confiable (comenzé en la 6.3 como tu y ya voy en la 7.0): 1- haz una copia de seguridad del directorio /var/postgres/data (en alguna versión cambió de lugar y ahora vá en /var/lib/postgres/data). En tu caso ya lo has hecho. 2- por cada base de datos haz (tienes que estar como dueño de la bd) pg_dump nombre-basedatos nombre.dump 3- revisa el fichero para ver que no tenga mensajes de error 4- borra todas tus bases de datos con: destroydb nombre-basedatos 5- actualizate a postgresql 6.5; o si quieres ya a 7.0 que va de maravilla y solo necesitas unos pocos paquetes de testing (antigua unstable, o sea woody). La actualización será fácil por no tener ninguna base de datos. 6- Reconstruye tus bases de datos con: psql -d nombre-basedatos -f nombre.dump donde nombre.dump es cada uno de los ficheros que creaste en el paso 2 y deberás estar en el directorio donde los creaste. Espero que eso te ayude, pero si aún tienes problemas preguntame. Un saludo, Jaime
Re: pasar postgesql de slink a potato
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tengo una base en postgresql en slink. Ayer pasé este pc de slink a potato sin ningún problema, excepto la base de datos. He leído la migración que indica Debian y dando los comandos que vienen no he sido capaz de actualizar la base de datos. Tengo guardado en backup la versión 6.3. Her usado los siguiente: # su - postgres $ postgresql-dump -t db.out -cilfdp $PGDATA/../data.saveaunque he tenido que modificar el $PGDATA quitándolo y he usado este comando: # su - postgres $ postgresql-dump -t db.out -cilfdp ../data.save También he usado el otro que recomiendan # su - postgres $ postgresql-dump -t db.out -dcilp ../data.save e incluso el volcado a fichero por partes: postgresql-dump -t fichero # dump to tape postgresql-dump -c -t fichero# check tape dump postgresql-dump -d -t fichero -i -l # destroy the old database # create a new one and # load the dump Una vez que tienes el db.out (que estará por alguna parte, búscalo con find), puedes probar el siguiente comando: psql -e database db.out Yo hice la migración que cuentas, de slink a potato, y no recuerdo como lo hice exactamente, pero no tengo el recuerdo de que fuera muy complicado. Si no te funciona, mándame un mail y te lo miro con más calma. Han Solo The Rebel Alliance Emacs is not on every system So what? [...] Do you tell your administrative people to stick with notepad.exe? Do you tell your fat kids they can only have the crummy games that come with their video games or plain dress that comes with Barbie? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAjpKJGUACgkQ4FjpJaPEp231/ACfRoDhL9V77nSWP66+FFCZ0lYL bKYAoPs+Lj3DDDWNHbqM9+xzAkZTAtNW =Kp1L -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: sources.list to upgrade from slink to potato
On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 11:09:46AM -0700, Matheson wrote: Hey, I'm trying to upgrade my slink to potato with the three cd-set of binaries, but I don't know what my sources.list should look like to include all three cd's. If someone could please send me an example file, I would appreciate it. try apt-setup and see how far that gets you (it's included in base-config, so you should already have it, i't think). -- There are only two places in the world where time takes precedence over the job to be done. School and prison. --William Glasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/
sources.list to upgrade from slink to potato
Hey, I'm trying to upgrade my slink to potato with the three cd-set of binaries, but I don't know what my sources.list should look like to include all three cd's. If someone could please send me an example file, I would appreciate it. Thanks, Cameron Matheson
Upgrade Slink to Potato
Just completed the upgrade Slink to Potato using CDs. Everything went perfectly; a really excellent operation. Congratulations and thanks to the Debian developers! Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.2 (Windows-free zone) Book Reviews: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/bookreviews/ Skeptical articles: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/freethinker/ To be forced by desire into any unwarrantable belief is a calamity. I.A. Richards
Re: DHCP en la actualizacion de slink a potato
Si, si ya he actualizado el nucleo. Tengo el 2.2.17 de potato, pero sigo diciendo lo mismo, parece que falta una nota al respecto. De esta forma, actulizar te deja con dudas. ¿habrá mas paquetes en los que tenga que hacer lo mismo? Idem pasa con el kernel, pero esto ya me lo sabía de cuando pasé de Hamm a Slink (2.0.34 a 2.0.36 y con la r4 a 2.0.38), o lo montas tu o te quedas con el viejo. ¡y no lo dice en ningún sitio por escrito! Es que a mi, si no me lo escriben, me mosquea y tengo que preguntar (aunque bueno, teniendoos a vosotros al otro lado, tampoco es tan grave). Para acabar, ¿diferencias de pump a dhcp-client? Saludos. El 14 Aug 2000 a las 01:58PM +0200, Santiago Vila escribio: On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Andres Seco Hernandez wrote: Tenia montado dhcpcd (el cliente de dhcp) en slink y al actualizar a potato no lo ha actualizado a dhcp-client. Vale, son paquetes distintos, no version nueva, pero en las release-notes de potato no dice nada al respecto. ¿Le ha pasado a alguien mas? ¿Habría que mandar un bug a debian? A ver, algun desarrollador de Debian que me de pistas. [...] Hola. A mí no me ha pasado, pero porque he hecho trampa: En vez de actualizar de slink a potato reinstalé potato partiendo de cero. Lo que sí puedo decirte es que el cliente dhcp de potato que se utiliza cuando instalas a partir de los discos es pump. Está tomado prestado de de Red-Hat y funciona con núcleos 2.2.x o superiores. Mi consejo es que actualices el núcleo (si es preciso) y te pases a pump. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- --- Andres Seco Hernandez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andressh - Mi pagina http://www.alamin.es.org - Alamin GSM SMS Gateway --- Microsoft Certified Product Specialist MCP ID 445900 Debian GNU Linux 2.1 (slink) - Linux Registered User no. 113867 --- 08/17 First public bath opened in N.Y., 1891 08/18 Anti-Cigarette League of America formed pgpMKhC0hGU76.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DHCP en la actualizacion de slink a potato
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Andres Seco Hernandez wrote: Tenia montado dhcpcd (el cliente de dhcp) en slink y al actualizar a potato no lo ha actualizado a dhcp-client. Vale, son paquetes distintos, no version nueva, pero en las release-notes de potato no dice nada al respecto. ¿Le ha pasado a alguien mas? ¿Habría que mandar un bug a debian? A ver, algun desarrollador de Debian que me de pistas. [...] Hola. A mí no me ha pasado, pero porque he hecho trampa: En vez de actualizar de slink a potato reinstalé potato partiendo de cero. Lo que sí puedo decirte es que el cliente dhcp de potato que se utiliza cuando instalas a partir de los discos es pump. Está tomado prestado de de Red-Hat y funciona con núcleos 2.2.x o superiores. Mi consejo es que actualices el núcleo (si es preciso) y te pases a pump.
DHCP en la actualizacion de slink a potato
Hola Tenia montado dhcpcd (el cliente de dhcp) en slink y al actualizar a potato no lo ha actualizado a dhcp-client. Vale, son paquetes distintos, no version nueva, pero en las release-notes de potato no dice nada al respecto. ¿Le ha pasado a alguien mas? ¿Habría que mandar un bug a debian? A ver, algun desarrollador de Debian que me de pistas. Algo más, cambiando a dhcp-client, la desinstalación de dhcpcd con purge desde dselect no ha borrado el directorio /etc/dhcpc, y el script de ejecucion de dhcp-client en init.d, /etc/init.d/dhcp-client, al hacerle start, trata de localizar IPs para las interfaces lo y eth0 (solo tengo esas). Evidentemente, la lo no lo necesita. Si añado -- eth0 a la linea de start-stop-daemon del start de dicho script, todo ya va bien, si no, en el syslog aparecen un huevo de mensajes haciendo referencia a los paquetes DHCPDISCOVER que se envian para pedir IP para lo. En mi opinión, esto debería venir por defecto, o revisar que interfaces eth hay en el equipo, o apoyarse en el /etc/dhclient.conf, pero no veo que lo haga así. ¿Alguien más tiene el mismo problema? ¿Igualmente, deberia avisar a debian con bug? Saludos y gracias. -- --- Andres Seco Hernandez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andressh - Mi pagina http://www.alamin.es.org - Alamin GSM SMS Gateway --- Microsoft Certified Product Specialist MCP ID 445900 Debian GNU Linux 2.1 (slink) - Linux Registered User no. 113867 --- 08/11 Dog days end 08/11 France Ends War in Indochina, 1954 08/11 Perseid meteor shower (look north; three days) 08/12 First test flight of Space Shuttle Enterprise from 747, 1977 08/12 Last U.S. ground troops out of Vietnam, 1972 08/13 Berlin wall erected, 1961 08/13 Li'l Abner debut, 1934 08/14 Social Security begins in U.S., 1935 08/14 First Unix-based mallet created, 1954 08/14 IBM PC announced, 1981 pgpgYatO7lwEx.pgp Description: PGP signature
from slink to potato - 'wd' ethernet card?
Hi, I'm thinking that it might be nice to upgrade for potato now when I've got slink working more or less well. My problem with installing directly potato did not work, because the wd module needed for my old ethernet card did not work with the kernel. It was pointed out by 'Nathan' on this list that the problem is with the kernel. But if I upgrade for potato by changing the apt sources for 'frozen', what would happen to my networking? (All the network sevrvices seem to be working with slink, but potato I didn't manage to install at all, because of that module...) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: from slink to potato - 'wd' ethernet card?
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 09:19, virtanen wrote: I'm thinking that it might be nice to upgrade for potato now when I've got slink working more or less well. My problem with installing directly potato did not work, because the wd module needed for my old ethernet card did not work with the kernel. It was pointed out by 'Nathan' on this list that the problem is with the kernel. The problem is not actually with the kernel per se, but with the kernel compiled for the boot floppy you used. I have potato running on a box with a wd80x3 NIC, and I installed it from scratch. I had to use the ide flavor (or was it idepci?) of the boot floppies to do so. You could search the debian-testing list for my comments on the situation. But if I upgrade for potato by changing the apt sources for 'frozen', what would happen to my networking? (All the network sevrvices seem to be working with slink, but potato I didn't manage to install at all, because of that module...) Upgrading will not change the kernel so your networking services will continue to work just fine. When you do get around to upgrading your kernel (a good idea) either compile your own or select the idepci flavor of the kernel image. If you're using lilo to boot, the kernel-image package will arrange for you to be able to boot from using your new kernel image or your old kernel image when lilo is run as part of the package install. Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
slink to potato ssh failed
Hi! I recently upgraded my slink box to potato with apt. Everything works well but the new ssh: neptun:/home/papt# dpkg --configure ssh Setting up ssh (1.2.3-5) ... dpkg: error processing ssh (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 Errors were encountered while processing: ssh I don't know what's wrong with it. Could anybody help me? --Tibi -- --- Pap Tibor E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: slink to potato ssh failed
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 18:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I recently upgraded my slink box to potato with apt. Everything works well but the new ssh: neptun:/home/papt# dpkg --configure ssh Setting up ssh (1.2.3-5) ... ^ I think this was fixed around -7, and I believe -8 is current. Get the current version and install it. Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: (slink+0.75)-potato login problem
Adrian Thiele wrote: Peter Allen wrote: (everything looked fine on boot), I then tried to login: When I try I can type my username, it waits three seconds and asks for my username again. (No password asked for and no login) When you ran the config after the install did you keep your PAM config file or replace it with the new one? Sorry about the delay, I managed to lose these messages for a few days and have only just found them My config looked alright, (I did a lot of checking around) I think I kept the original but am not totally sure Anyway I have done a lot of mucking about with stuff, and have some new info: I somehow managed to delete my old ldconfig config (I don't even know where this is stored so I don't know how...) and I booted up linux, and the login worked. I looked around a bit then tried startx. It couldn't find a load of x librarys, so after checking they were there (they were) I did an ldconfig. Then startx worked fine, x ran as normal. Unfortunatly I then managed to logout of root (Doh) and so tried logging back in again, and it failed. I still had a user account open so I tried su, which gave me a seg fault. I unfortunatly didn't have core dumps enabled, (and I can't remember how to enable them (?? ulimit -a 1 ??)) I will do some more digging around now... TIA Peter Allen
Re: Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato
voy1d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was using Storm for a while, and I just got so pissed off with the fact the packages were all wrong that I gave up and went back to Debian. But yeah, they don't really look after the updates etc, so I wouldn't bother with it. Huh? Which packages are all wrong? The current version of Storm is Slink with a few extra value-added packages like the Storm Package Manager, a front-end to apt. I installed Storm and have upgraded all the way to Woody without any problems. Storm uses a slightly customised kernel which gives frame-buffer support and provides the graphical boot screen, and a slightly customised lilo to give the graphical boot-manager screen. You are not forced to use these, and indeed as soon as you upgrade you lose both features unless you use a new Storm-patched kernel and put Storm's lilo on hold. So, you can upgrade your Storm installation exactly as if were plain Debian, without any problems, and can, if you wish, retain any Storm features along the way. I really don't see why you have a problem. Perhaps you could explain more. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato
Paul McHale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone done this yet? Could you give details including sources.list lines used? I want to run potato due to increased apps support. I might just wait for Storm to release a new distro based on potato. No problem. My /etc/apt/sources.list for Potato looked like this (I say 'looked' because I have since upgraded to Woody): deb ftp://ftp.stormix.com/storm potato main deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free Hope this helps. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato
The fact that the commands are different, for example bitchx instead of BitchX and everything I foudn was out of date. voy1d Faith No More summed up life well, You Can't Always Get What You Want - Original Message - From: Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato voy1d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was using Storm for a while, and I just got so pissed off with the fact the packages were all wrong that I gave up and went back to Debian. But yeah, they don't really look after the updates etc, so I wouldn't bother with it. Huh? Which packages are all wrong? The current version of Storm is Slink with a few extra value-added packages like the Storm Package Manager, a front-end to apt. I installed Storm and have upgraded all the way to Woody without any problems. Storm uses a slightly customised kernel which gives frame-buffer support and provides the graphical boot screen, and a slightly customised lilo to give the graphical boot-manager screen. You are not forced to use these, and indeed as soon as you upgrade you lose both features unless you use a new Storm-patched kernel and put Storm's lilo on hold. So, you can upgrade your Storm installation exactly as if were plain Debian, without any problems, and can, if you wish, retain any Storm features along the way. I really don't see why you have a problem. Perhaps you could explain more. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato
voy1d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact that the commands are different, for example bitchx instead of BitchX and everything I foudn was out of date. voy1d Have you used Debian? Storm *is* Debian with a few extras. Someone who is used to Debian could use a Storm system and not be aware he/she was using Storm as opposed to Linux. All the apps, apart from a few extras, are *Debian* apps and come from the same sources you'd go to if you had a Debian system. The commands may be different to, say, RedHat, but they are certainly the same in Storm as they are in Debian. No difference. You say 'everything was out of date' - Storm is Debian Slink. Slink is the current Debian version. Debian tends to not release a new distribution until the developers are convinced there are no bugs. Hence it tends to lag behing other distributions. BUT you have the option at the moment of upgrading Storm (or Debian) to the frozen distribution (Potato) which will soon be released, or to the bleeding-edge, very up-to-date Woody. I am using Woody and all the apps I use are very up to date. So there we are, a bleeding edge Storm Linux. The choice is yours. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato
Has anyone done this yet? Could you give details including sources.list lines used? I want to run potato due to increased apps support. I might just wait for Storm to release a new distro based on potato. Thanks in advance, Paul -- Paul McHale Work: 937-253-7610 Double E Solutions Mobile: 937-371-2828 4912 Effingham Fax:413-215-3232 Dayton, Ohio 45431 --
Re: Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato
I was using Storm for a while, and I just got so pissed off with the fact the packages were all wrong that I gave up and went back to Debian. But yeah, they don't really look after the updates etc, so I wouldn't bother with it. Mark Thompson Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web :http://i.need.proz.ac.nz/~voy1d If the people we love are stolen from us, the way to have them live on is to never stop loving them. Buildings burn, and people die, but real love is forever. - Original Message - From: Paul McHale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian-User debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 11:40 AM Subject: Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato Has anyone done this yet? Could you give details including sources.list lines used? I want to run potato due to increased apps support. I might just wait for Storm to release a new distro based on potato. Thanks in advance, Paul -- Paul McHale Work: 937-253-7610 Double E Solutions Mobile: 937-371-2828 4912 Effingham Fax:413-215-3232 Dayton, Ohio 45431 -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
(slink+0.75)-potato login problem
Ok, last time I send this. I've had exactly zero responses which makes me suspicious... I posted this to -user but got no response, and it could be a little problem with potato if it happens to more people than just me... Hi, I've just upgraded from slink with a lot of potato to potato. (apt-get -f dist-upgrade) having rebooted to let everything settle in (everything looked fine on boot), I then tried to login: When I try I can type my username, it waits three seconds and asks for my username again. (No password asked for and no login) I have a rescue disk so I can much around with / I'm just wondering whether its because I didn't have shadow passwords installed, and for some reason potato decided to install them. I tried moving /etc/passwd elsewhere, but no difference, and I had a look in /etc/pam.d/* but got scared and ran away :-) TIA Peter Allen
(slink+0.75)-potato login problem
Hi, I've just upgraded from slink with a lot of potato to potato. (apt-get -f dist-upgrade) having rebooted to let everything settle in (everything looked fine on boot), I then tried to login: When I try I can type my username, then it waits three seconds and asks for my username again. (No password asked for and no login) I have a rescue disk so I can much around with / which are the config files controlling the login? TIA Peter Allen
slink + 0.75 -potato login problem
Hi, I've just upgraded from slink with a lot of potato to potato. (apt-get -f dist-upgrade) having rebooted to let everything settle in, I then tried to login: When I try I can type my username, then it waits three seconds and asks for my username again. (No password asked for and no login) I have a rescue disk so I can much around with / (and /etc) which are the config files controlling the login? TIA Peter Allen
Upgrade from slink to potato, IPX
Greetings. Thanks to all who offered assistance on my upgrade from Debian 2.1 to frozen potato. The process went fairly well, apart from a circular dependency that was resolved by re-installing 2.1 with the 2.2 kernel. However, there seems to be an intermittent problem with the dynamic linker (ld.so). For example, running some programs yields the following: BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 57: elf_get-dynamic_info: Assertion '! bad dynamic tag' failed! I noticed this failure when running 'man' on a valid entry (man on a non-existent entry does not cause this behavior); I also noticed the failure during an invocation of 'umount' while the system was rebooting. And, there are other problems. For example, I see an Illegal SPARC instruction flash by during the runlevel change after executing 'init 6'. My platform is a SPARC IPX; 64mb ram, prom rev 2.9. Debian 2.1 seemed to run fine. If someone has an idea of a fix, please let me know. Otherwise I'll revert to 2.1 until potato is officially released. Also, if I can offer any more information please ask. Thanks much. Regards, -- - David E. Young Fujitsu Network Communications The fact that ... we still ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) live well cannot ease the pain of feeling that we no longer live nobly. -- John Updike Programming should be fun, programs should be beautiful -- P. Graham
Re: How to upgrade from slink to potato
Hi! Because I am afraid the upgrade will loss my nstalled application and user's information. What is the safe way to upgrade slink to potato? Thanks
Re: How to upgrade from slink to potato
If you hav a cable, DSL, or T* connection, wait for potato to stablize, then run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade Alex Kwan wrote: Hi! Because I am afraid the upgrade will loss my nstalled application and user's information. What is the safe way to upgrade slink to potato? Thanks -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Potato - update-alternatives (Ian Jackson) and window managers - doubt (and Slink to Potato Success)
Hello! First, I'm proud of Debian! I upgraded my Debian system to Potato this weekend, and everything went really fine! Enven my glibc 2.0.7 programs ran (almost all)! Thank you all developers! Go ahead! Make the world better! Second, I'm a bit confused about one point: I compiled gnome, wmaker and a large bunch of X-related software, and I was using a file in the /etc/X11/ (I can't remember its name, since it was deleted during the upgrade) to set my default window manager to /usr/local/bin/gnome-session. When I restarted my computer and ran X (startx), I was in front of a tiny almost-unuseable window manager. Digging the scripts I found one symlink (/etc/alternatives/x-window-manager) pointing to that ugly wm. I removed that symlink, created a new one pointing to /usr/local/bin/gnome-session. startx went fine. Till I restarted the computer. Then, once again, that link was set to /usr/bin/X11/vtwm . What a mess. I was poking update-alternatives, but didn't find a way to point my default window manager to /usr/local/bin/gnome-session. Yes I did read the man 8 update-alternatives, but it was a bit confusing to me (as I think it is a bit confusing to anyone but the man writer aka Ian Jackson), since it was not sufficiently explanatory (at least to me. Shame on me...). Could anyone explain to me the right way to make it work like I want, in the update-alternatives way? Thank you all! P.S.: Is Ian the Deborah's husband? :) Just to know... :) Thanks twice, Claudio
Re: Potato - update-alternatives (Ian Jackson) and window managers - doubt (and Slink to Potato Success)
On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 02:11:19AM -0300, Taupter wrote: I compiled gnome, wmaker and a large bunch of X-related software, and I was using a file in the /etc/X11/ (I can't remember its name, since it was deleted during the upgrade) to set my default window manager to /usr/local/bin/gnome-session. When I restarted my computer and ran X (startx), I was in front of a tiny almost-unuseable window manager. Digging the scripts I found one symlink (/etc/alternatives/x-window-manager) pointing to that ugly wm. I removed that symlink, created a new one pointing to /usr/local/bin/gnome-session. startx went fine. Till I restarted the computer. Then, once again, that link was set to /usr/bin/X11/vtwm . What a mess. Try: $ update-alternatives config x-window-manager I was poking update-alternatives, but didn't find a way to point my default window manager to /usr/local/bin/gnome-session. Yes I did read the man 8 update-alternatives, but it was a bit confusing to me (as I think it is a bit confusing to anyone but the man writer aka Ian Jackson), since it was not sufficiently explanatory (at least to me. Shame on me...). This takes a little more work, since you'll have to '--install' the local version first. But, since there are pretty current versions of gnome in potato you might use those. However, $ update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-window-manager \ x-window-manager /usr/local/bin/gnome-session 50 \ --slave /usr/share/man/man1/x-window-manager.1.gz \ x-window-manager.1.gz /usr/local/share/man/man1/gnome-session.1x.gz might be close to what you want. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: Potato - update-alternatives (Ian Jackson) and window managers - doubt (and Slink to Potato Success)
Taupter wrote: I was poking update-alternatives, but didn't find a way to point my default window manager to /usr/local/bin/gnome-session. Yes I did read the man 8 update-alternatives, but it was a bit confusing to me (as I think it is a bit confusing to anyone but the man writer aka Ian Jackson), since it was not sufficiently explanatory (at least to me. Shame on me...). Could anyone explain to me the right way to make it work like I want, in the update-alternatives way? update-alternatives --config x-window-manager This will put the alternative in manual mode and pointing to the window manager you have chosen when replying questions prompted by the script. Cheers, -- = Agustín Martín Domingo, Dpto. de Física, ETS Arquitectura Madrid, (U. Politécnica de Madrid) tel: +34 91-336-6536, Fax: +34 91-336-6554, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html
Re: glibc-compat and upgrading from Slink to Potato using dselect's FTP method.
Hello all I'm near from upgrading my Slink to Potato using dselect's FTP, but I'm afraid if it can drive my system _really_ bad (broken). I tried it six months ago, and the result was a reinstalling Slink from CDs. Did anyone try this way? Worked fine? Taupter
RE: Upgrading libc6 from slink to potato (no network!)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Moore, Paul) wrote: Aargh. In order to run dhcpcd on 2.2.14, I need the version from unstable (frozen, I guess). But that depends on the unstable version of libc6, which depends on the unstable version of debianutils, which depends on the unstable version of libc6 If I force an install of debianutils, the libc6 install fails on the preinit script, with no indication of why. libc6 has just been fixed. From the changelog: * Pre-Depends were a bad idea - quit using readlink. - removed pre-depends on debianutils. When 2.1.3-5 hits your nearest mirror, do the download. Yahoo! This worked fine. I have now upgraded to kernel 2.2.14, with the latest pcmcia-modules and dhcpcd, and the machine picks up a network address fine - straight out of the box install. Thanks for all the help, Paul. PS I still have another problem with SAMBA/NMBD, but that's for a separate message...
Upgrading libc6 from slink to potato (no network!)
Apologies if people have seen this before. I initially sent it via the news gateway at our site as I was having trouble getting subscribed, but I'm not convinced that the gateway is making it to the full mailing list (other messages I've sent that way are not in the archives). Now that I've got myself subscribed, I'm resending just in case it hasn't appeared - I really need some help! Apologies for the waste of bandwidth... Paul. On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:52:47 +0100, Paul Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:41:44 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Decide whether you want to run a 2.0 or a 2.2 kernel. DHCP is an area where the two kernel series require different tools. I think you'll be better off in the long run if you upgrade to kernel 2.2.x now. (Debian 2.1r2 is still 2.0-based by default, but has worked fine for me after I switched to a 2.2 kernel.) I will look at 2.2.14 and the associated updates needed to use it with slink. Aargh. In order to run dhcpcd on 2.2.14, I need the version from unstable (frozen, I guess). But that depends on the unstable version of libc6, which depends on the unstable version of debianutils, which depends on the unstable version of libc6 If I force an install of debianutils, the libc6 install fails on the preinit script, with no indication of why. Something is wrong here. How do I upgrade a clean slink system to use the frozen/unstable version of libc6? Please, no-one say apt-get upgrade - the WHOLE POINT is that I don't have a net connection!!! Tell me what .debs to download, how to dpkg -i them in, and I'll be happy. But don't suggest an upgrade - if I could have run potato, I'd never have started with slink. Thanks for any help - I'm getting VERY frustrated here! Paul.
Re: Upgrading libc6 from slink to potato (no network!)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Moore, Paul) wrote: Aargh. In order to run dhcpcd on 2.2.14, I need the version from unstable (frozen, I guess). But that depends on the unstable version of libc6, which depends on the unstable version of debianutils, which depends on the unstable version of libc6 If I force an install of debianutils, the libc6 install fails on the preinit script, with no indication of why. libc6 has just been fixed. From the changelog: * Pre-Depends were a bad idea - quit using readlink. - removed pre-depends on debianutils. When 2.1.3-5 hits your nearest mirror, do the download. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ayuda urgente actualizando Slink a Potato
¿Has probado apt-get dist-upgrade?:Yo he he hecho más o menos la misma actualziación hace unos días sin problemas. dist-upgrade dist-upgrade,in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; apt-get has a smart conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the expense of less important ones if necessary. The /etc/apt/sources.list file contains a list of locations from which to retrieve desired package files. Saludos, Jesus. Daniel writes: No se que estaré haciendo mal, pero me instalé slink 2.1r4 en el nuevo equipo y mediante dselect con el método apt, en el sources he actualizado para que se traiga todos los paquetes de potato, hasta ahí bien, se tira más de tres horas bajando todos los paquetes actualizados y por fín, cuando ya están todos y el apt se tiene que poner a instalar los nuevos paquetes y sustituirlos por los antiguos me sale el bonito mensaje: Internal Error, couln't configure a pre-depend Instalé de nuevo Debian 2.1r4 desde 0 y me ha vuelto a pasar lo mismo. Creo que es con el paquete libc6. Pregunta, ¿qué hago? pasando de hamm a potato no me pasó esto en la otra máquina... :( Por favor ayuda!!! Daniel -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jesus M. Gonzalez Barahona| Grupo de Sistemas y Comunicaciones [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ESCET, Universidad Rey Juan Carlos tel: +34 91 664 74 72 | c/ Tulipan s/n fax: +34 91 664 74 90 | 28933 Mostoles, Spain
upgrading slink to potato
um, is it possible to upgrade to potato from slink yet? when I try, I get problems with recursive pre-dependencies between libc6, ldso, and debianutils. I think I broke my system (I sort of expected to) by forcing things, but once things are fixed, I will want to upgrade again. please CC replies to my address, thx. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Ayuda urgente actualizando Slink a Potato
No se que estaré haciendo mal, pero me instalé slink 2.1r4 en el nuevo equipo y mediante dselect con el método apt, en el sources he actualizado para que se traiga todos los paquetes de potato, hasta ahí bien, se tira más de tres horas bajando todos los paquetes actualizados y por fín, cuando ya están todos y el apt se tiene que poner a instalar los nuevos paquetes y sustituirlos por los antiguos me sale el bonito mensaje: Internal Error, couln't configure a pre-depend Instalé de nuevo Debian 2.1r4 desde 0 y me ha vuelto a pasar lo mismo. Creo que es con el paquete libc6. Pregunta, ¿qué hago? pasando de hamm a potato no me pasó esto en la otra máquina... :( Por favor ayuda!!! Daniel
Urgent: Can't upgrade from slink to Potato/Frozen!!
Ok, this problem has me totally stumped. I have upgraded from slink - potato twice in the past without any problems. But on this new installation of slink, after I changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to look like: # Use for a local mirror - remove the ftp1 http lines for the bits # your mirror contains. # deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free # See sources.list(5) for more information, especial # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade tells me: apt-get upgrade Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...ok The following packages have been kept back omniorb 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. WTF!? I expected to see a whole pile of packages being upgraded. If I try and upgrade apt alone before upgrading everything else, I get a message saying that apt is already up to date. ii apt 0.1.9 Front-End for dpkg ii libpcap0 0.4a6-2 System interface for user-level packet captu NOT!!! Maybe I have missed something really simple, but I can't figure out how to upgrade to potato/frozen. I even tried changing potato to frozen and then unstable in my /etc/apt/sources.list but that didn't help either. I am running slink with a stock 2.0.36 kernel. I have a lot of customizations to make to this box but I'd like to upgrade to latest potato first. Any suggestions ?? Thanks. PS : I have already spent 6 hours trying to upgrade this box to potato but apt/dpkg refuses to let me do so. I just hope that its something simple I have completely overlooked. -- Salman Ahmed ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com
Dare I dist-upgrade a server from slink to potato right now?
We're running into a problem with the version of glibc that's on our news server, which is running slink. I've dist-upgraded a firewall machine at home a few weeks ago without a hitch but the machine at the office is a news server that handles over 4 gig of alt.binaries newsgroups a day (we handle non-binaries newsgroups on another machine since usenet is so vast these days). I know that there were recently some glitches with plugger and maybe menu so I'm just wondering if I it's stupid of me to dist-upgrade this machine quite yet? Someone has a decoder crunching away on that box and he has requested a newer glibc but I don't want to ruin everything. Suggestions? BTW: this list is incredibly helpful. Kudos to the mad elite that impart some damned fine arcane knowledge on the rest of us when we ask for it. ;-j -- -Grant oio` They do not apprehend how being at variance it agrees with itself. --Heraclitus ioi`
Slink or Potato
Hi, I'm a user who are way behind the debian upgrade. I've recently mirror the slink and plan to upgrade from my debian 1.3.1 to slink. However, I've just noticed the potato was recently frozen. I'd like to solicite you all comment on whether I should upgrade to slink or potato? Secondly, what are the differences between the twos? Lastly, I will rebuild the kernel and I also noticed that there were kernel 2.0.xx and 2.2.xx. Which should I use? I have apparently been out of the debian community for quite sometime and appreciate all comment. Thanks! --- tcp
Re: Slink or Potato
Timothy C. Phan wrote: Hi, I'm a user who are way behind the debian upgrade. I've recently mirror the slink and plan to upgrade from my debian 1.3.1 to slink. However, I've just noticed the potato was recently frozen. I'd like to solicite you all comment on whether I should upgrade to slink or potato? Secondly, what are the differences between the twos? Lastly, I will rebuild the kernel and I also noticed that there were kernel 2.0.xx and 2.2.xx. Which should I use? In order to upgrade to potato at the end of the day, the easiest way is a new installation. Bah, no that's not an option. :-) It's easier to upgrade from bo - slink and then from slink - potato. Regards, Joey -- Never trust an operating system you don't have source for!
Re: Slink or Potato
Hi All, It seems to me that potato would support the latest jdk1.2.2 better than slink and I'm also need the use of jdk1.2.2 as well. In this case, I'll go for potato from hamm. Well, I just need to know one more thing, does potato support IPMASQ the same as the previous versions (hamm or slink). Thank for all your replies. --- tcp.
Re: slink to potato?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 01:01:51PM -0800, Michael Perry wrote: Hi all- I just got dsl here so have a system I would like to take from slink to potato using the apt-get install dist-upgrade. Has anyone done this recently? Any issues? I did the upgrade last friday on my laptop. no real problems, except that dpkg eats 13 MB Ram after installing a package. My laptop has only 24 MB so the upgrade took more than 4 hours, after the packages had been downloaded. Wouter -- Linux duckman 2.2.14 #1 Wed Jan 5 14:45:16 CET 2000 i586 unknown 11:35am up 10 days, 51 min, 1 user, load average: 0.75, 0.61, 0.50
slink to potato?
Hi all- I just got dsl here so have a system I would like to take from slink to potato using the apt-get install dist-upgrade. Has anyone done this recently? Any issues? Also would just like to say thanks to everyone that develops for Debian and to the mailing list for all the great advice! -- Michael Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: slink to potato?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 01:56:51PM -0800, Michael Perry wrote: I just got dsl here so have a system I would like to take from slink to potato using the apt-get install dist-upgrade. Has anyone done this recently? Any issues? Also would just like to say thanks to everyone that develops for Debian and to the mailing list for all the great advice! The commands are: apt-get update //this gets the newest Packages files apt-get dist-upgrade //this does the upgrade - note no install word //install is used with individual packages as in //apt-get install foo I did this recently on the machine I'm using right now. I *wish* I'd had DSL - I did it over a 33.6 dial-up. The only issues I had were: 1) a broken debconf that has since been fixed 2) sometimes after having the connection drop when I reconnected I wound up at a mirror site that wasn't up to date. I solved that by changing my /etc/sources.list to point at the primary Debian FTP site. It was slower but it worked. 3) ncurses was a PITA. The upgrade had the symlinks completely hosed. The fix was to purge the ncurses packages in reverse numerical order, then reinstall them in numerical order. I really don't know if that was just an artifact of something I did or if the package was actually to blame, but it was actually not too bad to fix. Those are the only things that stuck out in my mind. If it sounds like I'm complaining about them I'm not - a lot of things I've had to go through with Win95 made going from Slink to Potato seem like an absolute breeze! Sure there were a few bobbles, but really they weren't that bad. And the performance gains in WindowMaker/XWindows were *well* worth the download. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | Where do you want to go today? ICQ# 12934898 | As far from Redmond as possible! '91 GS500E| Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.
Upgrading from slink to potato
- Please reply to debian-user@lists.debian.org or directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Hello, I want to upgrade my Debian Linux Box from slink to potato. I have got a 4-CD copy of the potato system. It was obtained from a Debian mirror around 20th december 1999. A friend of mine told me that upgrading to potato was as easy as: 1) Installing apt-cdrom via dpkg --install path/apt-cdrom.version 2) Running apt-cdrom add for each CD of the potato distribution. This way apt updates its packages database. 3) Running apt-get upgrade dist. Nevertheless, I can't find the apt-cdrom package neither in any of the four potato CD's nor in the www.debian.org archives. What do I have to do in order to install apt-cdrom? Are the options for dpkg correct? Do I have to empty the apt database before doing step 2? Thanks in advance, Manuel Arenaz begin:vcard n:Arenaz Silva;Manuel tel;home:986542243 tel;work:981167000 Ext. 1212 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:University of A Coruña;Dpt. Electronics and Systems version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Laboratory 1.2 adr;quoted-printable:;;Campus de Elvi=F1a, s/n=0D=0A15074 A Coru=F1a;A Coruña;;;Spain x-mozilla-cpt:;24128 fn:Manuel Arenaz Silva end:vcard
RE: Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato
thanks for the info on Potato. if i do decide to go to Potato is there something i should be wary of. it appears from the other distro that the 2.2 kernel is working fine. does Potato have any specific issues with the 2.2 kernel i.e is something horribly broken that makes Potato very unstable under kernel 2.2? Thanks -Original Message- From: Brian Servis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 12/30/99 3:15 PM Subject: Re: Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato *- On 30 Dec, Patrick Dahiroc wrote about Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato hi i'm thinking of upgrading to Potato - from what i've read is that Potato is pretty safe to use - i realize that i need to upgrade my kernel to do this. potato should run just fine on a 2.0.x kernel. I would only do one upgrad potato/kernel at a time. If is give the commands root apt-get update root apt-get dist-upgrade with the sources.list pointing to unstable. will this automatically get the Point it at the release name of potato and not unstable. When potato finally goes stable you don't want a suprise the next time you update apt-get and you have upgraded to the next unstable(woody) release. 2.2.? kernel and go through the configuration process. or do i have to get the latest kernel first configure it and then run the apt-get commands. No, the kernel will not automatically upgrade. This topic has been hashed out before on this list, check the archives. You will need to grab the kernel source package and build you own kernel. Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato
*- On 31 Dec, Patrick Dahiroc wrote about RE: Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato thanks for the info on Potato. if i do decide to go to Potato is there something i should be wary of. it appears from the other distro that the 2.2 kernel is working fine. does Potato have any specific issues with the 2.2 kernel i.e is something horribly broken that makes Potato very unstable under kernel 2.2? Not at all. Potato is 'kernel 2.2 certified', meaning it is designed to work without any problems with 2.2 kernels. Thi biggest issue for potato right now is that the package freeze is approaching and I suspect that there might be a rapid influx of updated or new packages just before the freeze. I have been running potato with a 2.2 kernel for several months now and haven't had any major problems. If you are cautious just watch debian-user and debian-devel for problem packages before you do an update once you have potato installed. If you don't have a pressing need to upgrade and are nervous about it then don't and wait for the release to happen in late Feb. Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
RE: Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Patrick Dahiroc wrote: : thanks for the info on Potato. if i do decide to go to Potato is there : something i should be wary of. it appears from the other distro that the : 2.2 kernel is working fine. does Potato have any specific issues with the : 2.2 kernel i.e is something horribly broken that makes Potato very unstable : under kernel 2.2? No -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato
hi i'm thinking of upgrading to Potato - from what i've read is that Potato is pretty safe to use - i realize that i need to upgrade my kernel to do this. If is give the commands root apt-get update root apt-get dist-upgrade with the sources.list pointing to unstable. will this automatically get the 2.2.? kernel and go through the configuration process. or do i have to get the latest kernel first configure it and then run the apt-get commands. thanks patrick
Re: Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Patrick Dahiroc wrote: : hi : : i'm thinking of upgrading to Potato - from what i've read is that Potato is : pretty safe to use - i realize that i need to upgrade my kernel to do this. : If is give the commands : root apt-get update : root apt-get dist-upgrade : with the sources.list pointing to unstable. will this automatically get the : 2.2.? kernel and go through the configuration process. or do i have to get : the latest kernel first configure it and then run the apt-get commands. Well, there are pre-compiled kernel images ... so you could do an apt-get install kernel-image-version_you_want Alternatively you could install the kernel source and create your own package. apt-get install kernel-package kernel-source-version_you_want cd /usr/src tar xIf kernel-source-version_you_want.tar.bz2 cd kernel-source-version_you_want make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig make-kpkg clean make-kpkg --revision=`hostname`.version_you_want-1 Following these steps you'll find a kernel-image deb file in /usr/src; install it using `dpkg -i', run lilo, and reboot. HTH, -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato
On 30-Dec-1999 Nathan E Norman wrote: Alternatively you could install the kernel source and create your own package. apt-get install kernel-package kernel-source-version_you_want cd /usr/src tar xIf kernel-source-version_you_want.tar.bz2 cd kernel-source-version_you_want make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig make-kpkg clean make-kpkg --revision=`hostname`.version_you_want-1 I did this yesterday and I remember when I was new to Debian and I did this, I soon found my kernel replaced with the default kernel image whenever I upgraded my system. Yesterday, I installed a new custom kernel and I know that I can put a hold on the kernel so it is not unintentionally replaced when I update my system, but instead I did something like make-kpkg --revision=custom.3:2.2.13.A.0 kernel_image I suscessfully installed it and the pcmcia stuff but I don't know yet whether I will lose my custom kernel to the default Debian kernel image on my next system upgrade. I will do 'apt-get -d -y upgrade' next time and make sure it does not happen :) -- Andrew
Re: Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato
*- On 30 Dec, Patrick Dahiroc wrote about Kernel Upgrade: Slink to Potato hi i'm thinking of upgrading to Potato - from what i've read is that Potato is pretty safe to use - i realize that i need to upgrade my kernel to do this. potato should run just fine on a 2.0.x kernel. I would only do one upgrad potato/kernel at a time. If is give the commands root apt-get update root apt-get dist-upgrade with the sources.list pointing to unstable. will this automatically get the Point it at the release name of potato and not unstable. When potato finally goes stable you don't want a suprise the next time you update apt-get and you have upgraded to the next unstable(woody) release. 2.2.? kernel and go through the configuration process. or do i have to get the latest kernel first configure it and then run the apt-get commands. No, the kernel will not automatically upgrade. This topic has been hashed out before on this list, check the archives. You will need to grab the kernel source package and build you own kernel. Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 11:00:52PM -, Pollywog wrote: I am running potato on my other machine, but I want to upgrade my laptop from Slink to Potato. If I understand correctly, you had to install a whole new Potato system from scratch. That is exactly what I want to avoid; I want to upgrade the system I have now. No, no reinstall should be required - for me, one of the great things about Debian is that it supports in-place upgrades on running systems (you don't have to boot an installer or anything). Just pointing apt or dselect at a source of potato packages and upgrading should DTRT. I don't think there's any major breakage in potato right now. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpr3bi4Rkytg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On 27-Dec-1999 Mark Brown wrote: No, no reinstall should be required - for me, one of the great things about Debian is that it supports in-place upgrades on running systems (you don't have to boot an installer or anything). Just pointing apt or dselect at a source of potato packages and upgrading should DTRT. I don't think there's any major breakage in potato right now. It is just one of my machines that was broken, but I am installing potato now. I hit a snag, but if I can set up an apt.conf file, I might be able to fix the problem. -- Andrew
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running potato on my other machine, but I want to upgrade my laptop from Slink to Potato. If I understand correctly, you had to install a whole new Potato system from scratch. That is exactly what I want to avoid; I want to upgrade the system I have now. I did the upgrade some time ago. If I remember rightly I upgraded to the 2.2.x kernel first and made the recommended upgrades to other parts of the system. I then had a Slink system running 2.2.x. I then used apt-get to install a package I knew needed libc6 2.1 which got my Slink box to the libc6 2.1 level. Everything appeared to work correctly, so a few days later I did apt-get dist-upgrade and got a smooth upgrade to Potato, where I am now. The step-by-step approach worked well for me. I do a weekly apt-get upgrade (using unstable, of course) to keep my system current and have rarely had a problem. A few minor things which have been reported in this list, but nothing as major as my system refusing to boot into Linux, or X not running etc.. -- Phillip Deackes Debian Linux (Potato)
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
One apparrent success: apt-get dist-upgrade slink - potato on an old ast laptop. The kernel is actually 2.0.29 and hasn't been changed for a long time! (I still have it so I don't break my pcmcia ethernet, mostly due to laziness). Only problem I have seen is that the new system tried to load every possible kernel module on the planet, include a dreaded sbpcd module that spends 10 minutes looking for its card on bootup. There are warnings during the upgrade about this, and pointers to the new module loading configuration. Thanks for the excellent work. nathan Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 26-Dec-1999 Tobias Zimpel wrote: Well, I broke my system completely a few weeks ago with a simple (segfaulting) 'apt-get dist-upgrade' while I was running potato for months without serious problems. There was no chance to repair it; I couldn't even boot, and I didn't manage to repair it using a rescue disk. The only sollution was to install the whole system new from the scratch. :-( But I'd say that potato is stable enough to use it without serious problems. I am running potato on my other machine, but I want to upgrade my laptop from Slink to Potato. If I understand correctly, you had to install a whole new Potato system from scratch. That is exactly what I want to avoid; I want to upgrade the system I have now. thanks -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- N a t h a n O . S i e m e r s Bioinformatics Division of Applied Genomics Bristol-Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute Hopewell Building 3B, P.O. Box 5400, Princeton, NJ 08543-5400 609 818-6568 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On 27-Dec-1999 Nathan O. Siemers wrote: One apparrent success: apt-get dist-upgrade slink - potato on an old ast laptop. The kernel is actually 2.0.29 and hasn't been changed for a long time! (I still have it so I don't break my pcmcia ethernet, mostly due to laziness). I broke my pcmcia stuff and I am unable to fix it. I think it has to do with trying to install a kernel the Debian way. I will trying reinstalling a small slink system and then upgrade via ppp. If that does not work, I will have to wait for Potato CD's to be released. thanks -- Andrew
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Pollywog wrote: On 27-Dec-1999 Nathan O. Siemers wrote: One apparrent success: apt-get dist-upgrade slink - potato on an old ast laptop. The kernel is actually 2.0.29 and hasn't been changed for a long time! (I still have it so I don't break my pcmcia ethernet, mostly due to laziness). I broke my pcmcia stuff and I am unable to fix it. I think it has to do with trying to install a kernel the Debian way. I will trying reinstalling a small slink system and then upgrade via ppp. If that does not work, I will have to wait for Potato CD's to be released. Could you describe the problem? I upgraded my Thinkpad 560 to potato 4 weeks ago. However, I normally network the machine with a Dlink pcmcia ethernet card which still works fine. What's broken is my ability to use a standard USR 28.8 pcmcia serial modem card. The kernel reports that the card is identified properly, the light is on, but the modem is not detected. It would be great to solve this one. BTW, I didn't know about the debian-laptop list until today. That might be the best place to discuss this. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 07:18:09PM -, Pollywog wrote: I broke my pcmcia stuff and I am unable to fix it. I think it has to do with trying to install a kernel the Debian way. I will trying reinstalling a small slink system and then upgrade via ppp. If that does not work, I will have to wait for Potato CD's to be released. PCMCIA support depends upon some kernel modules which are provided in a seperate package to the kernel. When you install a new kernel you also need to install a version of these modules that matches your new kernel. You should either install the version of pcmcia-modules corresponding to your kernel or install the pcmcia-source package and use that to build the modules. I tend to keep a copy of pcmcia-source installed all the time on my laptop in case something goes wrong. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On 27-Dec-1999 Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: BTW, I didn't know about the debian-laptop list until today. That might be the best place to discuss this. I did not know until now :) thanks -- Andrew
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On 27-Dec-1999 Mark Brown wrote: PCMCIA support depends upon some kernel modules which are provided in a seperate package to the kernel. When you install a new kernel you also need to install a version of these modules that matches your new kernel. I did that, but still lost pcmcia. You should either install the version of pcmcia-modules corresponding to your kernel or install the pcmcia-source package and use that to build the modules. I tend to keep a copy of pcmcia-source installed all the time on my laptop in case something goes wrong. I did that too, kept a backup, and a modules backup too :) Anyway, I am installing potato now on my laptop, from scratch. I will then see what /usr/src should look like on a new system. I want to try installing kernels the Debian way on my laptop. I don't do it that way on my other machine. -- Andrew
safe to upgrade slink to potato?
I recall seeing many posts about systems being rendered unusable or broken after upgrade from Slink to Potato. Is this still a problem? I do not want to try it if I will just break my system. thanks -- Andrew - GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 *we all live downstream*
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
Pollywog wrote: I recall seeing many posts about systems being rendered unusable or broken after upgrade from Slink to Potato. Is this still a problem? I do not want to try it if I will just break my system. I am a reformed Red Hat user. I've upgraded to potato on both my machines, and have had no significant problems, other than the occasional updated package that is broken. These are usually fixed in a day or two, and info about them is always available on this list. I use linux exclusively, and am happy with potato. I would assume that others who might use their boxes differently than I do, such as for networking, may have had other experiences and may be able to shed more light on the subject. Les Eckert
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 07:42:37PM -, Pollywog wrote: On 26-Dec-1999 kometboy wrote: [Updating to potato] Thanks for your thoughts on the subject. I could be wrong, but it seems I saw more than a few posts from people who had upgraded and had some not-so-minor problems. Unless someone says ...no, don't do it because... I probably will try it. Well, I broke my system completely a few weeks ago with a simple (segfaulting) 'apt-get dist-upgrade' while I was running potato for months without serious problems. There was no chance to repair it; I couldn't even boot, and I didn't manage to repair it using a rescue disk. The only sollution was to install the whole system new from the scratch. :-( But I'd say that potato is stable enough to use it without serious problems. HTH Ciao Tobias -- .signature lost... -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On 26-Dec-1999 Tobias Zimpel wrote: Well, I broke my system completely a few weeks ago with a simple (segfaulting) 'apt-get dist-upgrade' while I was running potato for months without serious problems. There was no chance to repair it; I couldn't even boot, and I didn't manage to repair it using a rescue disk. The only sollution was to install the whole system new from the scratch. :-( But I'd say that potato is stable enough to use it without serious problems. I am running potato on my other machine, but I want to upgrade my laptop from Slink to Potato. If I understand correctly, you had to install a whole new Potato system from scratch. That is exactly what I want to avoid; I want to upgrade the system I have now. thanks -- Andrew
Where is fromdos command pkg in slink or potato?
I have a working command called fromdos on my test system which is a box that has been upgraded from bo to hamm to slink to potato. It also uses the dos2unix symlink. Does anyone know where the current .deb package for this can be found. I am building a new server and this command is NECESSARY for it to do the intended job. There may be some other pkg that will do the trick but I have not found one. The purpose is to use it to convert database files from DOS/pc to Unix/Linux format. I tried copying the old file from my old box to the new one, but it does not work, it segfaults. Thanks! -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: Where is fromdos command pkg in slink or potato?
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 02:47:49PM -0600, John Foster wrote: I have a working command called fromdos on my test system which is a box that has been upgraded from bo to hamm to slink to potato. It also uses the dos2unix symlink. Does anyone know where the current .deb package for this can be found. I am building a new server and this command is NECESSARY for it to do the intended job. There may be some other pkg that will do the trick but I have not found one. The purpose is to use it to convert database files from DOS/pc to Unix/Linux format. I tried copying the old file from my old box to the new one, but it does not work, it segfaults. Thanks! Not sure if I found it on my Debian system or not, but I cobbled this up for someone else... should work on most Unix systems: - #!/bin/sh # a script to strip carriage returns from DOS text files # WARNING: may modify and delete files, may cause data loss # Handle stdin if [ $# -eq 0 ] then tr -d '\r' fi for file in $* do if [ -f $file ] then tr -d '\r' $file $file.tmp \ ( cp $file.tmp $file; rm $file.tmp ) fi done - -- William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada A 'box' is something that accomplishes a task -- you feed in input and out comes the output, just as God and Larry Wall intended. -- brian moore Composed: 5:12pm
Re: Where is fromdos command pkg in slink or potato?
fromdos is included in the sysutils package. On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 02:47:49PM -0600, John Foster wrote: I have a working command called fromdos on my test system which is a box that has been upgraded from bo to hamm to slink to potato. It also uses the dos2unix symlink. Does anyone know where the current .deb package for this can be found. I am building a new server and this command is NECESSARY for it to do the intended job. There may be some other pkg that will do the trick but I have not found one. The purpose is to use it to convert database files from DOS/pc to Unix/Linux format. I tried copying the old file from my old box to the new one, but it does not work, it segfaults. Thanks! -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Bob Nielsen, W6SWE (RN2)Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nhAMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] QRP-L #1985 http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
upgrade form slink to potato
Hi, Could anyone tell me exactly how how to upgrade from slink to potato with apt? Thanks Rick Rick Knebel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debiandoc-sgml: slink-to-potato bug?
Martin Fluch wrote: There are some debian packages for that: bug and reportbug Please don't report another bug about that. Instead, read any of these bugs: #47363, #50286, #50540, #52052, #46270, #50286, #50540, or #52052 -- see shy jo
Re: dpkg-dev: slink-to-potato bug?
Svante == Svante Signell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note: the potato version is unstable, and you are more likely to encounter problems with it rather then slink. However, if you are willing to submit bug reports, I am sure that most developers will be grateful. Svante Hello, Since I'm new to Debian I don't know where to Svante report (possible) bugs yet I'm posting it here. Please Svante advise me to the correct list next time. The lists Svante subscribed to so far are: debian-announce, debian-news, Svante debian-change, debian-user. debian-devel might be better suited for potato (aka unstable) specific issues. However, if you are unsure, then post in debian-user. Svante Upgrading from slink emacs or xemacs resulted in an Svante unfinished configure phase. This was solved by: ln -s Svante /usr/share/dpkg/site-lisp/debian-changelog-mode.el Svante /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev/ This is what I would do: 1. lookup http://bugs.debian.org/emacs and http://bugs.debian.org/xemacs to check the bug hasn't already been reported. 2. install the bug package. 3. type bug emacs or bug xemacs to file a bug report. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debiandoc-sgml: slink-to-potato bug?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Svante Signell wrote: Since I'm new to Debian I don't know where to report (possible) bugs yet I'm posting it here. Please advise me to the correct list next time. The lists subscribed to so far are: debian-announce, debian-news, debian-change, debian-user. Output when installing debiandoc-sgml: Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm Status: No solution found yet. Liking Debian more and more, even though installing/configuring/upgrading is not easy compared to other distributions. There are some debian packages for that: bug and reportbug If you use the first one to file a bug report, you simply execute the program 'bug' and follow the instructions given. But befor that have a look at http://www.debian.org/Bugs and try to figure out, if not some body else has already reported the same bug. And btw, this is the only way to asure, that the reported bug reaches the maintainer, so you should file the above bug report (if nobody else has done it already) again... Martin - -- Where do you want to go today? - As far from Redmond as possible! For public PGP-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOEeE+7CGSMW7I2etAQH7sAP9E1mhN4jkHz74xaZVYssaXRDXsVDMFhWy im09gGuF9K13gkWajh16z1gR1SFbxDPd9yMn30CQYOfD1umtZ4uRdYiWZNFIzaFY TiN7Yql9UyCPIADO5Hl80E3cErxKo2d9ayHWjO+yQmFLvIlsM8uZSK+zbXh8ygdl daZEO4zf0TU= =peMp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade
This is a very interesting message. Thanks to both of you. Unfortunately, this is still quite obscure for me, as I am definitely a newbie (forced to upgrade from slink to potato to make my laptop work). How can I install a library (by hand)? Bye Alessandro P.S. non-technical intriguing question: why is potato called 'potato'? On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Sven Esbjerg wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 10:24:03PM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtcpwrapGK.so.1 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomnithread.so.2 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniORB2.so.6 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniLC.so.2 is not a symlink What do they mean? I had somewhat they the same error. I stopped the installation and installed theese libs by hand and then it worked. dhelp_parse: You can add only directories under /usr/doc! warning: error occured during execution of /usr/sbin/dhelp_parse -a at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 241. (For example, it occurred right after the line Installing new version of config file /etc/imlib/imrc ) Will you file the bug? (I got the same error over and over). - The most annoying part was the following error, which stopped the install: install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20 /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install: cd: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev: No such file or directory emacs-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/ emacsen-common-install emacs20 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28. dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29 Somewhere along from slink to potatto the dir-structure for Emacs got changed but the install-script does noet reflect this. I fixed the problem by moving the missing files/dirs from the old place to the new place. I shure hope this is fixed when potato is released - it's not vere easy to figure these things out if one is a newbee. Still, fewer errors ocurred than I had expected. -- Sven Esbjerg http://www.dina.dk/~joker -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
slink to potato upgrade procedure
I downloaded a week old potato snapshot binary-i386 and binary-all directories what should i do now ? i don't want to upgrade every package manually. Is there any rules how can i use apt-get across my LAN to upgrade distro automatically ? -- +----------------------+ | Denis J. Cirulis [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Phone : +371-50-48023| | Cellular : +371-9131801 | +----------------------+
Re: Newbie: slink-to-potato upgrade
On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 10:35:52PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote Hello, I recently installed slink on a new SCSI disk for my dual oc 450 MHz Celeron machine. (suse 6.2 is already on an IDE disk). Since I'm new to .deb-based systems I would like to ask a few questions: (I have been running RedHat since 5.0 up to 6.1 and rawhide, mandrake 6.1 and suse 6.2 on different machines, but all of them are rpm-based) I need to upgrade to a kernel supporting dual CPUs and also to XFree86-3.3.5 to get support for my TNT2-based graphics card. 1. What is the name of the kernel package: dpkg --list only gives kernel-headers and kernel-source. If you want a SMP kernel (or if you know what you're doing) it's best to build your own kernel, using the kernel-package package. That will create a .deb containing specifically the kernel you want, with excellent installation scripts that will ensure that everything goes smoothly. The procedure: - Install kernel-source-2.2.13*.deb and unpack the kernel source under /usr/src/linux, or get it from wherever you normally do; - cd /usr/src/linux; make menuconfig; make-kpkg kernel-image - dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.2.13*.deb This doesn't replace your existing kernel if it's a different kernel version, and it maintains a link to your 'immediate past kernel' at /vmlinuz.old so you can leave yourself a 'safe option' by including a stanza in /etc/lilo.conf to boot /vmlinuz.old. To build the kernel on x86 you need the make, gcc (that's 2.7.2, not egcs), binutils and bin86 packages; to do 'make menuconfig' you need libncurses4-dev and libc6-dev, and to do 'make xconfig' you need tk-dev (e.g., tk4.2-dev or tk8.0-dev). And kernel-package, of course. 2. Which command to use for kernel upgrade? If you use kernel-package just install the .deb, answer the questions and reboot. 3. Which tools to use, apt, dselect and/or dpkg? dpkg. 4. Which tool correspond to rpm and yast? Depends what you mean. Dpkg does low level package manipulation on individual .deb files, dselect apt do high-level package manipulation using package repositories and dependency checking. If you want to install .rpm'd software, alien builds .debs on-the-fly (but you have to be a little careful about differences in filesystem layout). 5. I installed the scientific workstation, thereby missing the install of eg. gnome. I want to run Windowmaker/Enlightenment and gnome. What to do? If you have apt installed, you can try something like this: apt-get install wmaker-gnome enlightenment gnome-session control-center which should drag in most of the binaries you need to start. The gnome in 'slink' is pretty old now, and later 'unofficial' package sets are around that give slink a more recent gnome suite; if you migrate to potato, that has more recent copies. Potato and most of the unofficial gnome sets have 'meta-packages' with names like task-gnome-network that simplify package selection by requiring reasonably complete, coherent suites of packages relevant to the role suggested by their name. I suggest that you look over the archives of this mailing list for posts pointing to these, and also to other unofficial and semi-official package repositories. These include package sets for October GNOME, XFree86 3.3.5 and so on. When you look at a package repository you can download and browse through the Packages.gz file that it includes to see what packages are there, what they rely on, and so on. 6. How can I get a comprehensive listing of the packages installed on my computer? dpkg -l | less 7. How can I easily get rid of the unwanted ones? dpkg --purge unwanted-package or dpkg -r unwanted-package (leaves config files behind, useful if you will be re-installing later) or apt-get install unwanted-package- (the trailing '-' says to uninstall it). Both dpkg --purfe, dpkg -r and apt-get install can handle multiple package names on the command line. 8. apt-get upgrade + apt-get dist-upgrade ends with some files not found. The suggested fix was to add --fix-missing. How can I update the missing parts or remove the no longer supported packages. Umm... pass. This may relate to the fact that Potato is being updated continuously, and at any one time the Packages file provided may not quite line up with what's available. Try again may be enough. 9. dselect interface and beginners guide are not informative enough to guide you to an upgrade easily. Agreed, but I think it is assumed that people upgrading already have enough debian experience to do OK. Maintenance of dselect seems to be a real problem; I haven't looked, but I understand that it isn't very clean or clear at the source level, and it is no longer maintained by its original author. While it clearly has its deficiencies, what it does it does well enough that people are reluctant to start tinkering with it. 10. dselect is confusing with its immediate help screen if something
questions about slink to potato upgrade
Last night I upgraded my fairly stock slink machine to potato using
apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. I have various questions.
The last group of questions is about all the errors that occurred.
o Does potato contain all of the Y2K upgrades in slink and a half?
And all current security updates?
o I'm curious why 15 packages were kept back. How do I find out what
caused this? (The packages are: libmime-base64-perl fvwm eperl
libtime-hires-perl libpgperl eterm libcurses-pe rl
libterm-readkey-perl perlmagick mixviews kbd liblockdev0-perl pdl
libcompress- zlib-perl perl-tk.) Are they just old? Should I
remove them?
o I also downloaded, configured, compiled and installed kernel 2.2.13.
I found that I now have trouble accessing my pcmcia modem card.
Sometimes changing the irq with setserial fixes it, but sometimes it
doesn't. I've now turned off various other ports in the BIOS to
free up more irq's, but I still get irregular behaviour. Did
something change that could cause this?
o A lot of errors occurred during the upgrade, and I had to intervene
manually several times. Do these things represent bugs in apt,
dpkg, or some package control files? Here are a few examples:
- Throughout the upgrade I got the following messages:
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so (No such file
or directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtcpwrapGK.so.1 is not a symlink
ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomnithread.so.2 is not a symlink
ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniORB2.so.6 is not a symlink
ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniLC.so.2 is not a symlink
What do they mean?
- Throughout the upgrade I got the following message:
Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.004/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305
What does it mean?
- I also got this a lot:
dhelp_parse: You can add only directories under /usr/doc!
warning: error occured during execution of /usr/sbin/dhelp_parse
-a at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 241.
(For example, it occurred right after the line
Installing new version of config file /etc/imlib/imrc )
- The most annoying part was the following error, which stopped the
install:
install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install:
cd: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev: No such file or directory
emacs-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/
emacsen-common-install emacs20 failed at
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28.
dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
In the end, the only way I could find to get around this was to
uninstall dpkg-dev and the things that depend on it, configure
emacs, and then reinstall those packages. What went wrong above?
- When emacs 20.3 was replaced with 20.4, some stuff got left behind
in /usr/share/emacs/20.3/etc/bbdb/*, .../20.3/site-lisp/debview,
.../20.3/site-lisp/psgml and .../20.3/site-lisp/python-elisp.
I just manually erased it all, but shouldn't it have been removed
automatically?
- Some of the startup files in /etc/{emacs,emacs20}/site-start.d/
have not been byte-compiled. Is this correct behavior? Also,
some of the byte-compiled files are older than their sources.
Are these old byte-compiled files, or were they simply installed
with old dates?
- Is there a reason that the psgml package contains the empty
directory /etc/emacs19/site-start.d? (dpkg -S emacs19 produces
psgml: /etc/emacs19
psgml: /etc/emacs19/site-start.d )
I don't have emacs19 installed.
- When the upgrade got to mgetty it produced:
Preparing to replace mgetty 1.1.18-1 (using
.../archives/mgetty_1.1.21-2.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mgetty ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mgetty_1.1.21-2.deb
(--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/etc/mgetty/new_fax', which is also in package
mgetty-fax
Preparing to replace mgetty-fax 1.1.18-1 (using
.../mgetty-fax_1.1.21-2.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mgetty-fax ...
and then the install stopped shortly thereafter. I typed apt-get
dist-upgrade and the installed continued without a problem.
- When the upgrade got to r-base it produced:
Preparing to replace r-base 0.62.4-2 (using
.../archives/r-base_0.90.0-0.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement r-base ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/r-base_0.90.0-0.deb
(--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/R/library/splines/R/splines', which is
also in package r-cran
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
The only way this would go away is if I remove r-cran and r-base.
If these errors aren't due to mistakes on my part
Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade
Dan Christensen wrote: o Does potato contain all of the Y2K upgrades in slink and a half? And all current security updates? Yes. - Throughout the upgrade I got the following message: Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at /usr/lib/perl5/5.004/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305 What does it mean? It's a harmless message produced by a bug in perl. You can install libterm-readline-gnu-perl to make it go away. I suggest you file bugs about most of the other problems. -- see shy jo
Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade
On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 10:24:03PM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtcpwrapGK.so.1 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomnithread.so.2 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniORB2.so.6 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniLC.so.2 is not a symlink What do they mean? I had somewhat they the same error. I stopped the installation and installed theese libs by hand and then it worked. dhelp_parse: You can add only directories under /usr/doc! warning: error occured during execution of /usr/sbin/dhelp_parse -a at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 241. (For example, it occurred right after the line Installing new version of config file /etc/imlib/imrc ) Will you file the bug? (I got the same error over and over). - The most annoying part was the following error, which stopped the install: install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20 /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install: cd: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev: No such file or directory emacs-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/ emacsen-common-install emacs20 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28. dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29 Somewhere along from slink to potatto the dir-structure for Emacs got changed but the install-script does noet reflect this. I fixed the problem by moving the missing files/dirs from the old place to the new place. I shure hope this is fixed when potato is released - it's not vere easy to figure these things out if one is a newbee. Still, fewer errors ocurred than I had expected. -- Sven Esbjerg http://www.dina.dk/~joker
Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade
Graham Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I went that path also (dist-upgrade to get potato) and had some of the same problems. The most serious for me was that my pcmcia modem card stopped working somewhere along the way. I also have had this problem. One thing that makes my modem work again is to type: setserial /dev/ttyS1 irq 0 (You will need to replace the device with the correct one for your modem.) irq 0 means to not use interrupts, and instead use a slower polling method. So this isn't a long term fix. My modem does sometimes work with real irq's, but usually does not. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Dan
Newbie: slink-to-potato upgrade
Hello, I recently installed slink on a new SCSI disk for my dual oc 450 MHz Celeron machine. (suse 6.2 is already on an IDE disk). Since I'm new to .deb-based systems I would like to ask a few questions: (I have been running RedHat since 5.0 up to 6.1 and rawhide, mandrake 6.1 and suse 6.2 on different machines, but all of them are rpm-based) I need to upgrade to a kernel supporting dual CPUs and also to XFree86-3.3.5 to get support for my TNT2-based graphics card. 1. What is the name of the kernel package: dpkg --list only gives kernel-headers and kernel-source. 2. Which command to use for kernel upgrade? 3. Which tools to use, apt, dselect and/or dpkg? 4. Which tool correspond to rpm and yast? 5. I installed the scientific workstation, thereby missing the install of eg. gnome. I want to run Windowmaker/Enlightenment and gnome. What to do? 6. How can I get a comprehensive listing of the packages installed on my computer? 7. How can I easily get rid of the unwanted ones? 8. apt-get upgrade + apt-get dist-upgrade ends with some files not found. The suggested fix was to add --fix-missing. How can I update the missing parts or remove the no longer supported packages. 9. dselect interface and beginners guide are not informative enough to guide you to an upgrade easily. 10. dselect is confusing with its immediate help screen if something is not OK. (The reason for all this effort is the delay of the 2.2 release. I will gladly purchase potato when it arrives, but I feel a need to start learning debian-based distributions as well. I have the corel distribution newly burnt but not installed it yet.) Hoping to be as fluent in .deb as in .rpm Svante Signell
Re: Upgrade from slink to potato causes things to stop working
On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 06:54:54PM -0500, Bart Szyszka wrote: RH's mailing lists have more people which means more people to volunteer to answer questions. When I go to newsgroups, it's easy to spot a good or bad one. In a bad one, you'll see a list of posts with RedHat has tech support _employees_ that get _paid_ to watch the lists and respond to users. The mailing lists are a form of their tech support. Obviously the more people use their mailing lists, the less they use the phone, which saves them money. Please stop trolling for comparisons here. Comparing how Debian works, to how RedHat works, is like comparing Church and Government. They are two different things, and have two different philosophies. Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
(getting closer) Re: Upgrade from slink to potato causes things to stop working
I'm having major problems upgrading from slink to potato (stable to unstable apt sources). After one of the packages is being setup, I get a whole list of stuff like this: depmod: /lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia/SOMETHING.o is not owned by root OK, I think we're getting closer. When I upgrade from slink to potato, the above happens when it's installing the modutils package. Here's what it says while doing that: removing diversion /usr/include/linux/kerneld.h with different file /usr/include/linux/kernel.h.libc6 Then it says 'not allowed' and 'format changed' with a warning somewhere around there. After that I get something telling me to press ENTER to continue and I get pages of that depmod... stuff. Any ideas? This time I tried Debian without that generic SCSI module and without lp. Still the same problem. As far as the kernel goes, it's what I've always used and it had always worked before this past week or so. -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com L.J.R. Engineering http://www.ljreng.com PHP Interest Group http://www.gigabee.com/pig/
Re: Upgrade from slink to potato causes things to stop working
Ben Collins wrote: ... Please stop trolling for comparisons here. Comparing how Debian works, to how RedHat works, is like comparing Church and Government. They are two different things, and have two different philosophies. Agree. If somebody wants to compare things, compare Linux with NT. Let's see... what about (1) perl, (2) moving usernames/password to different machines. Oki -- Shells Command shells. Friendly user interfaces for beginners. http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/
Re: Upgrade from slink to potato causes things to stop working
Salman Ahmed wrote: ... Although I don't advocate (re)compiling kernels your situation sounds like one where it might help. Have you tried to compile a kernel from sources ? Either the 2.0.36 or one of the 2.2.x ones. Another poster to this thread mentioned this as well. You might want to try recompiling the 2.0.36 kernel and see if that fixes the problems. Recompiling the kernel is not that difficult in Slackware. How is it done in Debian? apt-compile? (you know, your machine connect itself to www.debian.org and do the recompilation _there_ :-) of course, then it installs the resulting binaries on your machine. Oki
Upgrade from slink to potato causes things to stop working
Hi, I'm having major problems upgrading from slink to potato (stable to unstable apt sources). After one of the packages is being setup, I get a whole list of stuff like this: depmod: /lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia SOMETHING.o is not owned by root Then after something related to PCMCIA gets installed, I get a shorter list of maybe eight /dev/tty* stuff not working with one of those being my mouse. What's going on? I've upgraded from slink to potato before without problems and with these last three times it's impossible. Now my network card, support for mounting vfat systems, and a lot of other things (again, the /dev/tty part where my mouse is) get disabled in the process. I *need* that network card because I have to have it for my Road Runner cable connection. This is incredibly frustrating because I've posted a message about this depmod... stuff a few days ago and didn't get any responses. I've said this before and I'll say it again: on the Red Hat mailing lists, as far as I could tell, *every* message gets at least one response. Here several posts get skipped over every day. This is the type of computer and network card that I have: Pentium 233 w/ MMX 128MB RAM NE2000 compatible network card Again, I haven't had problems with upgrading until the last three times that I tried it in the past week or so. Before that, the last time I had installed Debian was at least a month away from now. Probably closer to two months. -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com L.J.R. Engineering http://www.ljreng.com PHP Interest Group http://www.gigabee.com/pig/
Re: Upgrade from slink to potato causes things to stop working
Hello, Did you install a new kernel when you upgraded to potato?? If so, did you install from sources or from a kernel image? I updated from slink to potato on my laptop at the weekend and had no real problems with the upgrade. However, I did make sure that I had all the packages I needed in order to recompile my own kernel, especially the pcmcia module source package. It sounds like some of the other problems you are having may be due to an unsuitable kernel. Bart Szyszka wrote: Hi, I'm having major problems upgrading from slink to potato (stable to unstable apt sources). After one of the packages is being setup, I get a whole list of stuff like this: depmod: /lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia SOMETHING.o is not owned by root Then after something related to PCMCIA gets installed, I get a shorter list of maybe eight /dev/tty* stuff not working with one of those being my mouse. What's going on? I've upgraded from slink to potato before without problems and with these last three times it's impossible. Now my network card, support for mounting vfat systems, and a lot of other things (again, the /dev/tty part where my mouse is) get disabled in the process. I *need* that network card because I have to have it for my Road Runner cable connection. This is incredibly frustrating because I've posted a message about this depmod... stuff a few days ago and didn't get any responses. I've said this before and I'll say it again: on the Red Hat mailing lists, as far as I could tell, *every* message gets at least one response. Here several posts get skipped over every day. How can you actually tell this?? Considering the ammount of traffic on the debian mailing list(s), it is impossible to see if all emails are answered (never mind if they are answered usefully), unless of course you have days of spare time on your hands. Does Red Hat have so very little traffic on their maling lists ?? Again, I haven't had problems with upgrading until the last three times that I tried it in the past week or so. Before that, the last time I had installed Debian was at least a month away from now. Probably closer to two months. I have upgraded 3 machines (all different hardware configs) from slink (various different levels of package installs) and have had very few problems. The only thing I had was a mild problem installing cron, as it detected a cron process still running that it could not kill. After killing this process cron (and all other dependancies) installed fine. If you keep on having problems, make a backup of your data, install a minimum slink from scratch (using the part of dinstall that asks you what kind of set up you require, I selected basic). Once this has installed, point apt (sources.list) at a suitable potato mirror and do: apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade Then install any other stuff that you need. Hope this helps Johnny.
Slink + some Potato = What?
I have Slink, but have spent some time over the last few days updating essentially all the required base and standard packages from Potato. So, when I look at packages for Slink or for Potato, which one am I supposed to choose? For instance, the October Gnome. Should I avoid the Slink version? Thanks. -- David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies and coincidences. -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University
Re: Slink + some Potato = What?
Hi, On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:04:11PM -0600, David J. Kanter was heard to state: I have Slink, but have spent some time over the last few days updating essentially all the required base and standard packages from Potato. So, when I look at packages for Slink or for Potato, which one am I supposed to choose? For instance, the October Gnome. Should I avoid the Slink version? This is exactly what I have done. I pointed apt at the unstable branch, downloaded glibc2.1, and then have downloaded additional things from there. Not everything works perfectly every time - I haven't got gdm working since I installed it earlier today, but generally most things work fine. I'm working on a slow migration path to potato, so I'm slowly upgrading stuff to potato as I want it. Unless you plan on re-installing from scratch again once potato become stable, I'd recomend sticking to potato and hoping that nothing breaks (too badly). It also has the advantage that you get to update stuff as the maintainer updates them. I doubt they will be doing much to October Gnome for slink (seeing it's now November!), but the Gnome stuff in Potato does seem to be updated occasionally, with new stuff added frequently. Of course, this is all IMHO, but it's what I'm doing. Cheers, damon -- Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) / It's not a sense of humor. * Criminologist / It's a sense of irony * Webmeister / disguised as one. * Linux Geek / - Bruce Sterling
slink and potato
Can someone provide a definition of slink? of potato? Thanks, Randy Kaplan
Re: slink and potato
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Randy M.Kaplan wrote: rkapla Can someone provide a definition of slink? of potato? slink = debian v2.1 potato = debian 2.2 is that what u wanted ?? nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 8:36am up 83 days, 20:07, 1 user, load average: 1.61, 1.56, 1.55
Re: slink and potato
*- On 11 Nov, Randy M.Kaplan wrote about slink and potato Can someone provide a definition of slink? of potato? Slink is the current stable version of Debian 2.1r3. The code name slink comes from the Slinky character in the movie Toy Story. Potato is the current unstable version of Debian 2.2. The code name comes from the Mr. Potato Head character in the movie Toy Story. The source of these code names started from one of the previous Debian Project Leaders, Bruce Perens(http://www.perens.com/), who works(worked?) for Pixar Animation Studios(http://www.pixar.com/), the force behind the Toy Story movies. -- Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: slink and potato
slink: to move in a quiet, furtive manner; to sneak potato: a plant, emSolarnum Tuberosum/em, native to South America and widely cultivated for its starchy, edible tubers. Randy M.Kaplan wrote: Can someone provide a definition of slink? of potato? Thanks, Randy Kaplan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
mixing slink and potato?
Hi, I have a machine running slink, but I need some packages only available on potato. Is it possible to install those packages (preferably with dselect or apt-get) without updating the whole system to potato? As soon as I included the unstable directories in apt, dselect forced me to update the whole thing. Is there a way to prevent that? Stefan.
Re: mixing slink and potato?
Stefan Langerman: Is it possible to install those packages (preferably with dselect or apt-get) without updating the whole system to potato? Yes, you can do it directly with apt-get by: * Pointing your sources.list to potato * Running 'apt-get update' * Running 'apt-get install packages' where packages are the ones you want to install. * Pointing your sources.list back to slink * Running 'apt-get update' This should only upgrade tha packges needed to meet the dependencies. -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/
Re: slink and potato
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Dave Baker wrote: On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Todd Suess wrote: I was brave, I just did apt-get dist-upgrade and waiting about 10 hours for it to download everything and upgrade. Have had very little trouble with it. -Todd ps. for this to work, you of course have to have apt installed and a entry in sources.list pointing to an unstable archive. Having just spent some of the weekend fighting with this, I wonder if I can throw out a few Qs. 1) did you have gnome installed? I had to uninstall practically all of gnome by hand before apt-get would continue due to dependencies. Nope, I did not have gnome installed. 2) did you have emacs installed? same deal as above. Also some conflicts with bind and dnsutils stepping on each other during the upgrade (had to uninstall manually, then reinstall after it was done). Yes, emacs was installed, didn't really have any problems with it tho. 3) when you add unstable sources in sources.list, do you first remove the stable ones? I wonder if this could have caused some of my probs. No, my sources.list still has stable and unstable entries, mainly because I was too lazy to remove them, but once I upgraded since it goes by version numbers everything I install now comes from unstable, so I guess I could take the stable portions out, doesn't really matter. 4) at what point does your kernel get upgraded to 2.2.x (or 2.3.x)? Mine is sitting at 2.0.36 still and I'm in the process of using kernel-package to go to 2.2.12 - I had expected this to be done through the dist-upgrade but it didn't ... I recompiled my kernel right from 2.0.36 to 2.2.12-3, but I did it after my system was almost completely potato. No problems compiling, and I have compiles several more times since with no trouble. 5) I had to restart the apt-get dist-upgrade five or six times (or more) because it kept being killed by packages that didn't install correctly. Interesting, I didn't have a problem with this, but if I did have a package that didn't want to install correctly (such as dependancy overwrite problems, etc) I just made a note of it and used dpkg -i --force overwrite on those. My debian install was a fairly fresh 2.1r2 with gnome and kde updates through apt. Since I had a pretty awful time fighting through it, perhaps it can be of use to help the old stable - new stable upgrade process go smoother for everyone else ... -dave -- | oOOooO / --|oOobodoO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --| ooOoOo / | II / The wise man tells you where you have fallen | II / and where you may fall - Invaluable secrets. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: slink and potato
I was brave, I just did apt-get dist-upgrade and waiting about 10 hours for it to download everything and upgrade. Have had very little trouble with it. -Todd ps. for this to work, you of course have to have apt installed and a entry in sources.list pointing to an unstable archive. At 04:33 AM 10/18/1999 +0530, T.V.Gnanasekaran wrote: Often you will see Slink = Stable, Potato = Unstable, but I have been using potato for a while now will little or no problems, and it works a lot better in many ways, at least for me. I am running slink but I want to upgrade to potato. How do I go about? What is the best way? -gnana
