Re: Some newbie questions
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 04:49, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:49:48AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Alexey Buistov wrote: Hello Debian fans! The sixth iso image of binary woody is being downloaded to my machine right now, but I'm still having plenty of questions concerning Debian installation and even pre-installation. Please point me to some doco or answer directly in mailing list: First, you probably only need the first CD. I have only rearely heard of situations where anyone *requires* any of the other CDs. That is usually because they have special or strange hardware that will not boot the regular kernel on the first CD. People with dial-up may appreciate the other CDs. I currently don't have an internet connection at home, so I especially need them. Bijan I'm on dial-up, and I have just the first two (Woody) CD's, and I've only ever found *one* app I wanted that wasn't on one of those two - Kppp. (I downloaded that separately). In other words, CD's 1 and 2 probably contain almost everything an average user (certainly a newbie user) is likely to want. cr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some newbie questions
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:31:05PM +1300, cr wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 04:49, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:49:48AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Alexey Buistov wrote: Hello Debian fans! The sixth iso image of binary woody is being downloaded to my machine right now, but I'm still having plenty of questions concerning Debian installation and even pre-installation. Please point me to some doco or answer directly in mailing list: First, you probably only need the first CD. I have only rearely heard of situations where anyone *requires* any of the other CDs. That is usually because they have special or strange hardware that will not boot the regular kernel on the first CD. People with dial-up may appreciate the other CDs. I currently don't have an internet connection at home, so I especially need them. Bijan I'm on dial-up, and I have just the first two (Woody) CD's, and I've only ever found *one* app I wanted that wasn't on one of those two - Kppp. (I downloaded that separately). In other words, CD's 1 and 2 probably contain almost everything an average user (certainly a newbie user) is likely to want. I install a lot of software :) When installing a system I always use all 7 cds. It's not that I install insane amount of software as much as the fact that I install many different kinds of software. Bijan -- Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crasseux.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Some newbie questions
Hello Debian fans! The sixth iso image of binary woody is being downloaded to my machine right now, but I'm still having plenty of questions concerning Debian installation and even pre-installation. Please point me to some doco or answer directly in mailing list: 1) Is it true that Debian has limitation on partition size - 6 gigs? Or any other size limit? 2) Can I do all partitioning stuff from M$ Window$ (using Partition Magick) before installation? 3) Where can I ask some other newbie questions? Is this list the right place? Thanks Alexey Buistov, Software Engineer, Miratech Ltd. 41 Nauki Ave, 03028 Kiev, Ukraine, tel: +38 044 206 4090 ext number +38 044 206 4099 fax: +38 044 206 4091 ICQ: 83154650 http://www.miratech.ua mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some newbie questions
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:18:53 +0200 Alexey Buistov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Debian fans! The sixth iso image of binary woody is being downloaded to my machine right now, but I'm still having plenty of questions concerning Debian installation and even pre-installation. Please point me to some doco or answer directly in mailing list: 1) Is it true that Debian has limitation on partition size - 6 gigs? Or any other size limit? 2) Can I do all partitioning stuff from M$ Window$ (using Partition Magick) before installation? 3) Where can I ask some other newbie questions? Is this list the right place? Thanks Hello Alexey, The Debian.org site is probably the best place to start looking for information, also here:- http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/categories.html There is so much information on the net concerning Debian that you should be able to find whatever you need on any subject. Just do a search through the Google search engine. Partition Magick is a piece of junk. It works, but you will have trouble later if you want to do things like resize partitions. Partitioning is a subject that is adequately catered for in the references I have already given you. This list is the right place, but before you ask a question here I would respectfully suggest that you search the associated list archives, where you will in all probability find answers to most questions. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some newbie questions
Alexey Buistov wrote: Hello Debian fans! The sixth iso image of binary woody is being downloaded to my machine right now, but I'm still having plenty of questions concerning Debian installation and even pre-installation. Please point me to some doco or answer directly in mailing list: First, you probably only need the first CD. I have only rearely heard of situations where anyone *requires* any of the other CDs. That is usually because they have special or strange hardware that will not boot the regular kernel on the first CD. 1) Is it true that Debian has limitation on partition size - 6 gigs? Or any other size limit? Never heard of this. I believe that EXT3 and most filesystems nowadays have a limit of 2 terabytes, but there are workarounds for that. 2) Can I do all partitioning stuff from M$ Window$ (using Partition Magick) before installation? Why. Just let the install program do it or use a good partitioning program like parted. (Unless you need to resize or move an NTFS partition). 3) Where can I ask some other newbie questions? Is this list the right place? Yup. http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/ is also an excellent source of information about Linux in genereal. Also check out Debian's documentation page: http://www.debian.org/doc/ HTH, -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Some newbie questions
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:49:48AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Alexey Buistov wrote: Hello Debian fans! The sixth iso image of binary woody is being downloaded to my machine right now, but I'm still having plenty of questions concerning Debian installation and even pre-installation. Please point me to some doco or answer directly in mailing list: First, you probably only need the first CD. I have only rearely heard of situations where anyone *requires* any of the other CDs. That is usually because they have special or strange hardware that will not boot the regular kernel on the first CD. People with dial-up may appreciate the other CDs. I currently don't have an internet connection at home, so I especially need them. Bijan -- Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crasseux.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Some newbie questions
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 12:18:53PM +0200, Alexey Buistov wrote: 1) Is it true that Debian has limitation on partition size - 6 gigs? Or any other size limit? No. Maybe terabytes or something :) 2) Can I do all partitioning stuff from M$ Window$ (using Partition Magick) before installation? Yes. 3) Where can I ask some other newbie questions? Is this list the right place? Yes. Bijan -- Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crasseux.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Some newbie questions
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 11:15 GMT, David Palmer. penned: Partition Magick is a piece of junk. It works, but you will have trouble later if you want to do things like resize partitions. Partitioning is a subject that is adequately catered for in the references I have already given you. Partition Magic is great except when it sucks. I've had it eat partitions before. Not fun. -- monique PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top. Whatever it takes, just don't CC me! I'm already subscribed!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some Newbie Questions
just to clarify: he must have meant /etc/inetd.conf here and not /etc/inittab. yes, quite :) don't look after your security late at night ;o) cheers -- Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'together alone' pgpyw1jPeTvLN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Some Newbie Questions
Just to fill you in on my situation. The other day, I had a friend set up one of my computers with Debian. He set it up as my firewall/router, since its main function is just that. I'm mostly a Hardware person, I could probably build a computer blind folded and I'm only familiar with the many M$ WinXXX systems. Aside from logging in on my Linux box, I don't know what to do with it and I would like to learn. So, here are my Questions: 1. I'm not going to beg for all the newbie commands I should know, so I'm just going to ask for a URL that will set me in the right direction. Could someone please point me to one? 2. I've read about 200 different emails from this now, (my inbox is buldging) and everyone is always recommending to keep everything updated, especially security stuff (it is my firewall after all.) My problem is that I haven't the slightest clue as how to go about that. 3. I have an Intel MoBo that has the Intel 810 (video) chipset on it, and currently my friend is unable to get X windows or what ever the GUI is called to work with it. I fund information at the Intel website, but I don't have the first idea of what to do with that information... Could someone perhaps break it down newbie style or point me in the direction to where information may be found? 3. I just came into ownership of an old Mac PPC 6200cd. How hard would such a system be to install Linux on that, and does Debian have a MAC version of Linux? Just some quick links is all I'm asking for, that I may study up on these things and learn. If you want to type in newbie instructions for the firewall update info and perhaps the video drivers, I would hold you in the highest esteem. Thanks in advance Don Conley
Re: Some Newbie Questions
1. I'm not going to beg for all the newbie commands I should know, so I'm just going to ask for a URL that will set me in the right direction. Could someone please point me to one? i started on the dos2linux howto about 5 years ago. it's a good place to start. 2. I've read about 200 different emails from this now, (my inbox is buldging) and everyone is always recommending to keep everything updated, especially security stuff (it is my firewall after all.) My problem is that I haven't the slightest clue as how to go about that. it's not imperitive. debian is half locked down by default. until you become competent in linux, chances are you won't stand to lose much. probably the biggest start, though: as root, edit /etc/inittab, and put a # at the start of every line that doesn't already have one. you can then uncomment the services you want as you go. this file controls stuff like telnet, ftp etc. cheers -- Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'together alone' pgpTqtwAbFdTG.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 08:28:06PM +1100, Damien wrote: it's not imperitive. debian is half locked down by default. until you become competent in linux, chances are you won't stand to lose much. simplest thing to do is make sure this line exists in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib and run: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade regularly, that way you get all security fixes installed. probably the biggest start, though: as root, edit /etc/inittab, and put a # at the start of every line that doesn't already have one. you can then uncomment the services you want as you go. this file controls stuff like telnet, ftp etc. ack, i think you mean /etc/inetd.conf not /etc/inittab. don't mess with inittab until you really know what your doing!! -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpHuLkPhlSfI.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 12:27:16AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, here are my Questions: 1. I'm not going to beg for all the newbie commands I should know, so I'm just going to ask for a URL that will set me in the right direction. Could someone please point me to one? Check out http://www.linuxnewbie.org, http://www.linuxstart.com USM Bish
Re: Some Newbie Questions
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 08:28:06PM +1100, Damien wrote: as root, edit /etc/inittab, and put a # at the start of every line that doesn't already have one. you can then uncomment the services you want as you go. this file controls stuff like telnet, ftp etc. just to clarify: he must have meant /etc/inetd.conf here and not /etc/inittab.
Re: Some Newbie Questions
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 12:27:16AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to fill you in on my situation. The other day, I had a friend set up one of my computers with Debian. He set it up as my firewall/router, since its main function is just that. I'm mostly a Hardware person, I could probably build a computer blind folded and I'm only familiar with the many M$ WinXXX systems. Aside from logging in on my Linux box, I don't know what to do with it and I would like to learn. So, here are my Questions: 1. I'm not going to beg for all the newbie commands I should know, so I'm just going to ask for a URL that will set me in the right direction. Could someone please point me to one? http://www.debian.org/doc/ links to some good newbie (and non-newbie) online documentation. Some is debian specific and quite extensive. Highly recommended. 2. I've read about 200 different emails from this now, (my inbox is buldging) and everyone is always recommending to keep everything updated, especially security stuff (it is my firewall after all.) My problem is that I haven't the slightest clue as how to go about that. 3. I have an Intel MoBo that has the Intel 810 (video) chipset on it, and currently my friend is unable to get X windows or what ever the GUI is called to work with it. I fund information at the Intel website, but I don't have the first idea of what to do with that information... Could someone perhaps break it down newbie style or point me in the direction to where information may be found? From experience, I find it unlikely that Intel's information will be very useful to you, but I could be wrong. If you're running Debian 2.2 (the latest stable release, aka potato aka stable) then you need xserver-svga in addition to other X packages. http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.1/Status16.html has info about Intel chipsets (It says the i801 is supported in XFree3.3.6 and 4.0.1.) Debian potato (stable) uses X 3.3.6 I think, and woody (unstable) uses 4.0.1 but can also use the old xservers. I recommend reading the debian guides linked to above to learn how to install packages, etc before you try too hard with X. If you have apt set up correctly, running this command as root should install some basic stuff you need: # apt-get install task-x-window-system xserver-svga Again, I recommend learning more about how things work before messing around too much. Although once you know a little more, messing around is probably the best way to learn. Just some quick links is all I'm asking for, that I may study up on these things and learn. If you want to type in newbie instructions for the firewall update info and perhaps the video drivers, I would hold you in the highest esteem. The thing that helped me learn Linux the fastest was wiping my Windows partition :) Thanks in advance Don Conley P.S. When you want to start a new thread on a mailing list, don't reply to an existing message. It looks ridiculous to those of us who thread our mail and is more easily overlooked. -- Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hobbes: Do you have an idea for your story yet? Calvin: No, I'm waiting for inspiration. You can't just turn on creativity like a faucet. You have to be in the right mood. Hobbes: What mood is that? Calvin: Last-minute panic. -- From Calvin and Hobbes by Bill Watterson
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Hallo I am new on Debian, now I want to know which services (inetd,nfs and so on) have to run on my machine. The machine is a stand alone workstation and connected with a modem using ppp to the internet. I also need a stable easy to configure and using mailprogram for X. Sorry my english is really bad. Tanks Arne _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Some Newbie Questions
I am a Windows 95 user who has recently been introduced to the world of Linux (Debian (2.0, I think ??)). I have partitioned off about 1 GB of my hard drive to Linux, and the rest is DOS/W95. I am trying to work out ... is it possible to share files between the two operating systems (i.e. Linux and W95) ? Here is a practical example of what I mean.I am trying to sell the concept of Linux to a friend of mine who only uses W95 at the moment. Suppose I wanted to create a screenshot (.BMP) from a session that I was running in WMaker or Afterstephow would I get it across to W95 so that I could EMail the picture to him ?? (Is a BMP in Linux the same format as a BMP file in W95 ?) ...and talking about EMails, can anyone give me any leads on the best way I can connect to the Net in Linux, surf the Net, send/receive EMails, participate in Chat programs etc. ? I'm experienced in W95, but I am only starting out in the world of Unix (...a whole new world), so if any responses could be in layman's terms I would be grateful :) Thanks in advance for your help !! regards, Andrew J Fortune
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Andrew J Fortune wrote: I am a Windows 95 user who has recently been introduced to the world of Linux (Debian (2.0, I think ??)). I have partitioned off about 1 GB of my hard drive to Linux, and the rest is DOS/W95. You really need another partition thats 32Mb or 64Mb for a 'swap' partition. Linux will use that as additional 'memory' in addition to the physical ram your machine has. Its functionally equivalent to the swap file that Win creates except that a separate partition is safer than a file on your main partition. I am trying to work out ... is it possible to share files between the two operating systems (i.e. Linux and W95) ? No problem. There is a filesystem for Linux called 'msdos' or 'vfat' (for Win95) that can be installed as part of a customized kernel or as a kernel module. These filesystems once mounted (probably in /etc/fstab) allow read/write access to your Win partition. Here is a practical example of what I mean.I am trying to sell the concept of Linux to a friend of mine who only uses W95 at the moment. Suppose I wanted to create a screenshot (.BMP) from a session that I was running in WMaker or Afterstephow would I get it across to W95 so that I could EMail the picture to him ?? (Is a BMP in Linux the same format as a BMP file in W95 ?) Binary files are copied unaltered. What you are probably thinking of is the CR/LF difference between Unix and Dos/Win when it comes to text files. Dos uses ascii 13/10 (CR/LF) to end lines in a text file, while Unix just uses the 10 (LF). ...and talking about EMails, can anyone give me any leads on the best way I can connect to the Net in Linux, surf the Net, send/receive EMails, participate in Chat programs etc. ? Sure, but it my take a little learning at first (was for me). Once I got ppp (use pppconfig deb package) running (connected to my ISP), I just got Netscape Communicator from ftp://ftp.netscape.com and installed it. You can learn how the other, standard Unix, packages are installed and configured (you need a mail transfer agent, a mail user agent, and newsgroup reader) but these are really only needed if your planning on setting your machine up as a server. For end-user only type of activity (web surfing) just get Netscape. Note: Netscape is available in Debian 2.1 as deb files, otherwise make sure you get the glibc2 version from ftp.netscape.com (under the 'unsupported' dir tree). I'm experienced in W95, but I am only starting out in the world of Unix (...a whole new world), so if any responses could be in layman's terms I would be grateful :) Thanks in advance for your help !! regards, Andrew J Fortune -- Ed C.
Re: Some Newbie Questions
On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 09:25:57AM +1000, Andrew J Fortune wrote: I am a Windows 95 user who has recently been introduced to the world of Linux (Debian (2.0, I think ??)). I have partitioned off about 1 GB of my hard drive to Linux, and the rest is DOS/W95. I am trying to work out ... is it possible to share files between the two operating systems (i.e. Linux and W95) ? Here is a practical example of what I mean.I am trying to sell the concept of Linux to a friend of mine who only uses W95 at the moment. Suppose I wanted to create a screenshot (.BMP) from a session that I was running in WMaker or Afterstephow would I get it across to W95 so that I could EMail the picture to him ?? You can use mount to mount a Win95 partition and then cp the file (or email it to him from Linux).See 'man mount'. (Is a BMP in Linux the same format as a BMP file in W95 ?) ...and talking about EMails, can anyone give me any leads on the best way I can connect to the Net in Linux, surf the Net, send/receive EMails, participate in Chat programs etc. ? I'd suggest you install ppp and pppconfig (assuming you have a dial-up ppp connection). After you get it running, you may want to consider diald (although ppp now supports dial-on-demand). For surfing, try lynx (text-based) or one of the various navigator/communicator versions available for Debian. For email: mutt, pine, communicator, several others. There are several available irc programs, as well: ircii, bitchx, tkirc, etc. dselect is your friend here. Bob -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Some Newbie Questions
Andrew J Fortune wrote: I am a Windows 95 user who has recently been introduced to the world of Linux (Debian (2.0, I think ??)). I have partitioned off about 1 GB of my hard drive to Linux, and the rest is DOS/W95. As someone else mentioned, you'll need to use part of that as a swap partition, but only a little bit (32 or 64 MB is usually a good size). I am trying to work out ... is it possible to share files between the two operating systems (i.e. Linux and W95) ? Yes; with the default kernel (or one you compile yourself (you won't try this for a few weeks probably)), Linux can access DOS/Windows partitions. Eventually you'll set your system up to automatically mount the DOS partition, but for now, you can do it manually. As root (aka super-user), make sure you have an empty directory, for example, /Win95. Then use the command mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /Win95. This assumes your Windows partition is Win95-style (ie long filenames); if just regular DOS-formatted, it'd be mount -t dos (the -t means type). This command also assumes your Windows partition is on the first partition on the first IDE drive (/dev/hda1). Then you can cd (change directory, just like in DOS) to /Win95/windows and give a command such as rm *, which would remove all the files (but not subdirectories) in the /Win95/windows directory (you DO want to delete your windows files, right? :-) snicker-snicker). Here is a practical example of what I mean.I am trying to sell the concept of Linux to a friend of mine who only uses W95 at the moment. Suppose I wanted to create a screenshot (.BMP) from a session that I was running in WMaker or Afterstephow would I get it across to W95 so that I could EMail the picture to him ?? Once you have your windows partition mounted as per the above instructions, you'd just copy the file like in DOS, such as cp /home/mydirectory/mypicture.bmp /Win95/bmpfiles. (Is a BMP in Linux the same format as a BMP file in W95 ?) 'Fraid I can't speak to this ...and talking about EMails, can anyone give me any leads on the best way I can connect to the Net in Linux, surf the Net, send/receive EMails, participate in Chat programs etc. ? As part of the default Debian install, I THINK ppp is installed. Just run (as root) the command pppconfig and answer the questions as best you can. This will create two configuration files (/etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/chatscripts/provider) that contain the phone number, username, etc for dialing into your ISP. If you're on a LAN, that's another story. Once you've run pppconfig, you can run pon to connect to your ISP, and poff to disconnect. Once connected, you can probably use telnet, ftp, and lynx (lynx is a text-only web-browser). What you'd probably want to do is ftp to ftp.netscape.com and download one of the latest Communicators to the /tmp directory (if you don't know how to ftp/download, holler). Then run dselect and install the netscape4 package, which is just an installer for the Netscape Communicator program (licensing issues...)). This will install Netscape Communicator for you, and then you can run Netscape and things will look quite familiar to you. I'm experienced in W95, but I am only starting out in the world of Unix (...a whole new world), so if any responses could be in layman's terms I would be grateful :) When I started with Linux, I budgeted a year to allow myself to become familiar enough with it to be comfortable. I'm now at about the 9-month mark, and it looks like I budgeted just about right. I only mention this to let you know that you may have a lot of rough spots ahead, but stick with it and you'll find that you really like it after you get past the wobbly-legs stage. Thanks in advance for your help !! regards, Andrew J Fortune -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
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On Tue, 01 Jun 1999, Andrew J Fortune wrote: ...and talking about EMails, can anyone give me any leads on the best way I ccan connect to the Net in Linux, surf the Net, send/receive EMails, participate in Chat programs etc. ? I'm experienced in W95, but I am only starting out in the world of Unix (...a whole new world), so if any responses could be in layman's terms I would be grateful :) My personal preference is KDE. DEBs are at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/ This was my way of installing (as a relative newbie): You need to modify /etc/apt/sources.list to include the line: deb http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/debian slink rkrusty go into dselect and select update, then exit. # dpkg --list kde* to see them Use # apt-get install filename and install kdesupport0g first, then kdebase, then every other package starting with kde. Finally # apt-get install kdm Modify /etc/X11/window-managers so that /usr/bin/kde is first in the list. Reboot. There's lots of other DEBs. Try # dpkg --list k* to see them. Once you have KDE going, you will find it very Win95-like, and kppp is the easiest way of all to setup for the Internet. You don't even need netscape, as kfm the file manager is a good web browser, and kmail does email. Regards, Barry Kauler
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Hi! Barry Kauler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 01 Jun 1999, Andrew J Fortune wrote: ...and talking about EMails, can anyone give me any leads on the best way I ccan connect to the Net in Linux, surf the Net, send/receive EMails, participate in Chat programs etc. ? I'm experienced in W95, but I am only starting out in the world of Unix (...a whole new world), so if any responses could be in layman's terms I would be grateful :) My personal preference is KDE. I'm agree. You can also try GNOME. I think it's at http://www.gnome.org . This was my way of installing (as a relative newbie): [snip] Reboot. As far as I know you don't need to reboot. This is Linux, OK? ;-) Rebooting is for adding new hardware. But, OK, I'm a Linux newbie and I don't know how to skip this 8-) Perhaps some Linux guru would help :-) (By the way, I'm installing KDE. I think I made some mistakes. I've posted them). -- Daniel González Gasull (`-/)_.-'``-._ The hottest places in [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . `; -._)-;-,_`) Hell are reserved for PGP RSA key 1024/EEA93A69(v_,)' _ )`-.\ ``-' those who, in times of _.- _..-_/ / ((.'fL moral crisis, preserved ((,.-' ((,/ their neutrality. -- Dante __ | Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE: http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | ~~
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Hi! Barry Kauler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was my way of installing (as a relative newbie): [snip] Finally # apt-get install kdm Modify /etc/X11/window-managers so that /usr/bin/kde is first in the list. Reboot. I have modify /etc/X11/window-managers and it worked the first time I do startx. I didn't need to reboot. But perhaps you enter in X everytime you turn on your computer. Then exit from X (CONTROL-ALT-DEL) and restart X with startx. You'll see your KDE working :-) Hope this helps. -- Daniel González Gasull (`-/)_.-'``-._ The hottest places in [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . `; -._)-;-,_`) Hell are reserved for PGP RSA key 1024/EEA93A69(v_,)' _ )`-.\ ``-' those who, in times of _.- _..-_/ / ((.'fL moral crisis, preserved ((,.-' ((,/ their neutrality. -- Dante __ | Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE: http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | ~~
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Hi. Andrew J Fortune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, Thanks for replying ! You are welcome :-) Is GNOME some sort of alternative to Debian ? Nope. It's an alternative to KDE. I've never used it. Now I'm installing KDE. KDE and GNOME are desktop environments for the X Window system. Some alternatives to Debian are RedHat, SuSE, Slackware and Caldera. They are Linux distributions. To know what is a Linux distribution see the Linux FAQ. I don't know the right definition. Hope this helps. -- Daniel González Gasull (`-/)_.-'``-._ The hottest places in [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . `; -._)-;-,_`) Hell are reserved for PGP RSA key 1024/EEA93A69(v_,)' _ )`-.\ ``-' those who, in times of _.- _..-_/ / ((.'fL moral crisis, preserved ((,.-' ((,/ their neutrality. -- Dante __ | Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE: http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | ~~
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Hi! Robert V. MacQuarrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have modify /etc/X11/window-managers and it worked the first time I do startx. I didn't need to reboot. But perhaps you enter in X everytime you turn on your computer. Then exit from X (CONTROL-ALT-DEL) and restart X with startx. You'll see your KDE working :-) Umm you mean CONTROL-ALT-BACKSPACE. BACKSPACE will exit X while DEL shutdown/halt your system. Yep, you are right :-) -- Daniel González Gasull (`-/)_.-'``-._ The hottest places in [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . `; -._)-;-,_`) Hell are reserved for PGP RSA key 1024/EEA93A69(v_,)' _ )`-.\ ``-' those who, in times of _.- _..-_/ / ((.'fL moral crisis, preserved ((,.-' ((,/ their neutrality. -- Dante __ | Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE: http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | ~~
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PJMaP == Paulo J Matos aka PDestroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PJMaP 4 - How do I configure my PCBIT ISDN card. I installed the PJMaP module but it says when it is loading it that there are still 3 PJMaP files to be configured at /etc/isdn... How do I configure them PJMaP ? Just edit the files. They are well commanted, most likely you just need to change a few things. PJMaP Isn't there an ISDN How-to somewhere? It is in /usr/doc/isdnutils Ciao, Martin
Re: Some newbie questions
On Sun, 9 May 1999, Paulo J Matos aka PDestroy wrote: 1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? remove the S90xdm file from your /etc/rc2.d (maybe all rcx.d, but 2 for sure, as it's the default runlevel) 2 - Is there any kind of autoexec.bat at Debian? Where? there's about a half-dozen files that take over parts of the utility of autoexec.bat. It depends on what you want to do. 3 - How do I mount my Windows file system at hda1? Then so it'll mount every time I log, I'll have to add the mount command to the Debian autoexec right? that'd be /etc/fstab here's mine # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/hda3 / ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 01 /dev/hda1 noneswapsw 00 proc/proc procdefaults 00 /dev/hdb1 /usrext2defaults 02 /dev/hda2 /msdos umsdos defaults 02 /dev/sda1 /syquestumsdos defaults 02 hda2 is my win3x partition, hda3 is my root partition, and hdb is given over completely to linux--sda1 is a syquest EZ135 that I keep transient stuff on. 4 - How do I configure my PCBIT ISDN card. I installed the module but it says when it is loading it that there are still 3 files to be configured at /etc/isdn... How do I configure them ? Isn't there an ISDN How-to somewhere? sort of there's a page (not a LDP HOWTO) http://www.muc.de/~hm/linux/linux-isdn.html There's an unmaintained HOWTO in the LDP, but it's specialized for ppp ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/unmaintained/mini/PPP-over-ISDN YMMV--I don't do ISDN, so can't vouch much for the info Regards, Paulo Jorge Matos aka PDestroy Minister of FortuneCity - Marina District http://www.fortunecity.com Personal Page : http://pdestroy.fortunecity.com E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page me at : http://wwp.mirabilis.com/361853#pager SBN Level 2 Member HTML Writers Guild Member -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null When you are having a bad day, and it seems like everybody is trying to tick you off, remember that it takes 42 muscles to produce a frown, but only 4 muscles to work the trigger of a good sniper rifle. Who is John galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: Some newbie questions
He doesn't want it as a startup thing. There ain't no extreme about it, just a preference. Linux is not confined to X, so why artificially confine it? BTW why stop at 7 VTs when you can make up to 255 relatively easily (I have 9+syslog [X gets VT10] and would have more, but I don't like the idea of WPish ctl/alt/shift fkeys)? On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Foster wrote: Luis M. Garcia wrote: On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 12:47:04AM +1000, Robert Norris wrote: 1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? I'm guessing you mean xdm. If your system is like mine, you'll have a file /etc/X11/config. In their will be a line 'start-xdm' which you should replace with 'no-start-xdm'. This is true if you are using Debian 2.0; if you have Debian 2.1 (aka Slink) you should remove the xdm package if you don't want X server to start automatically: dpkg --remove xdm --- That's kind of extreme! Before you do that try using Ctrl-Alt F1 (or any F key from F1 thru F6) to access a regular console. If you want to return to the XWindow use Ctrl-Alt-F7 . you can go back and forth as needed. I find this technique very useful when installing new software, as I can run several terminals including X with different users logged in. When you are having a bad day, and it seems like everybody is trying to tick you off, remember that it takes 42 muscles to produce a frown, but only 4 muscles to work the trigger of a good sniper rifle. Who is John galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Some newbie questions
1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? 2 - Is there any kind of autoexec.bat at Debian? Where? 3 - How do I mount my Windows file system at hda1? Then so it'll mount every time I log, I'll have to add the mount command to the Debian autoexec right? 4 - How do I configure my PCBIT ISDN card. I installed the module but it says when it is loading it that there are still 3 files to be configured at /etc/isdn... How do I configure them ? Isn't there an ISDN How-to somewhere? Regards, Paulo Jorge Matos aka PDestroy Minister of FortuneCity - Marina District http://www.fortunecity.com Personal Page : http://pdestroy.fortunecity.com E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page me at : http://wwp.mirabilis.com/361853#pager SBN Level 2 Member HTML Writers Guild Member
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 May 1999 15:25:11 +0100, Paulo J Matos aka PDestroy wrote: 2 - Is there any kind of autoexec.bat at Debian? Where? System wide - /etc/init.d, /etc/cron.* 3 - How do I mount my Windows file system at hda1? man mount Chances are it would be something like mount -t vfat /dev/hda /dirtomount Then so it'll mount every time I log, I'll have to add the mount command to the Debian autoexec right? man fstab /etc/fstab controls what partitions are mounted at boot time. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNzWd/npf7K2LbpnFEQLm5wCdF1DMZT7t9O72RdW+YfOPfwsjctUAoK+8 +RrzIGEeptPxdh8KAfRZw8RQ =JTJr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Some newbie questions
1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? I'm guessing you mean xdm. If your system is like mine, you'll have a file /etc/X11/config. In their will be a line 'start-xdm' which you should replace with 'no-start-xdm'. 2 - Is there any kind of autoexec.bat at Debian? Where? Sort of. The startup scripts are in /etc/init.d, with symlinks for each runlevel under /etc/rc?.d. However, you will seldom have to change the contents of these files, since there are 'safe' ways to set up the system, such as placing information about modules you want loaded at boot in /etc/modules, or mount info in /etc/fstab (Some things are different on different distributions though, most of this is debian specific, but I figure you probably wouldn't be here if you weren't using debian ;) 3 - How do I mount my Windows file system at hda1? Then so it'll mount every time I log, I'll have to add the mount command to the Debian autoexec right? Add a line similar to the following to /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1 /dos vfat default 0 0 I'm guessing your windows partition is a FAT32 partition (win9x), if its not, you may need to change 'vfat' to 'msdos' .. /dos is the mount point, you may have to create it, or put it somewhere else (/mnt/dos is also popular) 4 - How do I configure my PCBIT ISDN card. I installed the module but it says when it is loading it that there are still 3 files to be configured at /etc/isdn... How do I configure them ? Isn't there an ISDN How-to somewhere? Absolutely no idea on this one. Check the LDP (http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP); perhaps someone else would like to field this one? ;) re, Rob.
Re: Some newbie questions
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 12:47:04AM +1000, Robert Norris wrote: 1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? I'm guessing you mean xdm. If your system is like mine, you'll have a file /etc/X11/config. In their will be a line 'start-xdm' which you should replace with 'no-start-xdm'. This is true if you are using Debian 2.0; if you have Debian 2.1 (aka Slink) you should remove the xdm package if you don't want X server to start automatically: dpkg --remove xdm
Re: Some newbie questions
Luis M. Garcia wrote: On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 12:47:04AM +1000, Robert Norris wrote: 1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? I'm guessing you mean xdm. If your system is like mine, you'll have a file /etc/X11/config. In their will be a line 'start-xdm' which you should replace with 'no-start-xdm'. This is true if you are using Debian 2.0; if you have Debian 2.1 (aka Slink) you should remove the xdm package if you don't want X server to start automatically: dpkg --remove xdm --- That's kind of extreme! Before you do that try using Ctrl-Alt F1 (or any F key from F1 thru F6) to access a regular console. If you want to return to the XWindow use Ctrl-Alt-F7 . you can go back and forth as needed. I find this technique very useful when installing new software, as I can run several terminals including X with different users logged in.begin:vcard n:Foster;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.advance-computing.com org:AdVance-Computing Systems;WHQ version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Owner note:We Build Multi-Processor Computers adr;quoted-printable:;;Stonetrail Drive=0D=0ASuite A;Plano;Texas;75023-7223;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;22240 fn:John Foster end:vcard
Re: Some newbie questions
to remove xdm : try : Ctrl+R in the xlogin or as root, in shell : switchdm
Some newbie questions
Hi, I just bought an official Debian CD. But my computer does not boot from CDs. -What do I do? I read the installation guide and it says: In the case that your computer does not support bootable CDs, you should boot into DOS, and execute boot.bat file which is located in the \boot directory on your CD. -But there isn't any boot.bat file under the \boot directory on my CD, can anyone tell me what to do to get it. (This is the binary CD that i am talking about, so am i using the right CD? the other two CD are source and contribution) If anyone knows, please help me, I appreciate it. Also I am a newbie just beginning to learn linux, so dumb it down when you explain it to me. Thanks, -- Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Rules!
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Hi Tam, binary CD is correct. the file you want is in /install Any more questions - just ask ! Ivan. At 09:41 AM 12/28/98 -0500, you wrote: Hi, I just bought an official Debian CD. But my computer does not boot from CDs. -What do I do? I read the installation guide and it says: In the case that your computer does not support bootable CDs, you should boot into DOS, and execute boot.bat file which is located in the \boot directory on your CD. -But there isn't any boot.bat file under the \boot directory on my CD, can anyone tell me what to do to get it. (This is the binary CD that i am talking about, so am i using the right CD? the other two CD are source and contribution) If anyone knows, please help me, I appreciate it. Also I am a newbie just beginning to learn linux, so dumb it down when you explain it to me. Thanks, -- Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Rules! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
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On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, CJ wrote: -But there isn't any boot.bat file under the \boot directory on my CD, Aha! Welcome to the wonderful world of Debian. You have successfully smashed head-on into the first obstacle placed in your path. Cunning newbie test #1 -- see if the poor unfortunate newbie is smart enough to find the documentation, AND read it. Cunning newbie test #2 -- see if the poor unfortunate newbie is dumb enough to actually BELIEVE what said documentation says. (You *cannot* be serious!) [ You will of course, find boot.bat under /install -- NOT /boot. : o Don't ask. ] Moral -- treat all documentation as if it were written by malicious minded, evil little pranksters. [ Or at the very least, creative typists who would really rather be writing best-selling masterpieces of pure fiction. ] It's better for your sanity. Really. Once you've adjusted your mindset to little things like this, you'll find Debian is the best Christmas present you ever got! -- Martin Wheeler -StarTEXT, Glastonbury, Somerset, England - BA6 9PH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.startext.co.uk/ P.S. Have you read the chapter on configuring sendmail, yet? It's a cracker, that one!
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Hi I've just set up debian hamm and i have few problems with it. It seems that i'm not able to create working accounts. I've tried to create them with adduser whatever -command, but when i try to logon, it says could not cd to /home/whatever. Then it throws me back to the login prompt. Any ideas why it behaves so? I've checked the permissions of /, /home and /home/whatever and they seem to be ok. But i'm not 100% sure. I've also checked the passwd and group files too. Nothing weirdo there either. A second quiz: man returns me libc.6.so: Permission denied. when i checked this file, it was a symlink to some other lib (can remember the name. debian's own?). anyway this other lib had 755 permissions. any idea why my man is broken? //KB -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
