Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 11. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
  Not sure about all the:
  - GPT + UEFI
  - MBR + UEFI
  - GPT + BIOS
 
 I just installed Wheezy and it seemed to install just like any other
 install I  have done.

Ah, so you are not sure its using UEFI at all?

Do you have grub-pc or grub-efi-amd64 at work? Is there an EFI boot 
partition? Does Debian still boot when setting BIOS to UEFI only mode?

If not, you are booting via BIOS.

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Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-11 Thread Greg Madden


On Friday 10 August 2012 1:17:16 am Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
  On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:
   On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.
   
You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the
way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting
is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.
  
   I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
   making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
   post.
 
  I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
  boot' feature of the UEFI bios?
 
  I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI
  bios, SSD  mSata.

 I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need
 a 3.2 backport kernel

 What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get
 either of:

 - GPT + UEFI
 - MBR + UEFI
 - GPT + BIOS

 to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is

 - MBR + BIOS

 My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the
 EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some
 efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you
 managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a
 guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not
 work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install
 also seemed to use it.

 I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much
 time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it
 would be nice to have it anyway.

I am not dual booting, I am using virtualization for the second OS. I have two 
ssd's, not at the same time, Win7 host and a Wheezy host. 

 Not sure about all the:
 - GPT + UEFI
 - MBR + UEFI
 - GPT + BIOS

I just installed Wheezy and it seemed to install just like any other install I 
have done.

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Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-11 Thread L V Gandhi
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net wrote:


 On Friday 10 August 2012 1:17:16 am Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
  On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:
   On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.
   
You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the
way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting
is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.
  
   I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
   making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
   post.
 
  I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
  boot' feature of the UEFI bios?
 
  I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI
  bios, SSD  mSata.

 I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need
 a 3.2 backport kernel

 What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get
 either of:

 - GPT + UEFI
 - MBR + UEFI
 - GPT + BIOS

 to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is

 - MBR + BIOS

 My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the
 EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some
 efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you
 managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a
 guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not
 work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install
 also seemed to use it.

 I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much
 time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it
 would be nice to have it anyway.

 I am not dual booting, I am using virtualization for the second OS. I have two
 ssd's, not at the same time, Win7 host and a Wheezy host.

  Not sure about all the:
 - GPT + UEFI
 - MBR + UEFI
 - GPT + BIOS

 I just installed Wheezy and it seemed to install just like any other install I
 have done.

 --
 Peace,

 Greg
 Which vitualiation medium you used ie virtual box?


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UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
 On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
   On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
   Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
   ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
   Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.
   
   You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the
   way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting
   is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.
  
  I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
  making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
  post.
 
 I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
 boot' feature of the UEFI bios?
 
 I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI
 bios, SSD  mSata.

I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need
a 3.2 backport kernel

What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get
either of:

- GPT + UEFI
- MBR + UEFI
- GPT + BIOS

to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is

- MBR + BIOS

My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the
EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some 
efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you 
managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a 
guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not 
work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install 
also seemed to use it.

I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much 
time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it 
would be nice to have it anyway.

Thanks,
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Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-09 Thread L V Gandhi
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
 On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:

 Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
 ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
 Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.

 You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the way you
 like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting is a common
 requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.

I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
post.



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Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-09 Thread Gary Dale

On 09/08/12 08:37 AM, L V Gandhi wrote:

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com  wrote:

On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:

Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.


You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the way you
like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting is a common
requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.

I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
post.
Check the BIOS to see if UEFI can be turned off. If it can't then you 
can't boot from an uncertified OS. However, I'm not aware of any systems 
currently that don't allow you to turn off UEFI. If yours is one, then 
return the computer and get one that allows you to install a different OS.



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Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-09 Thread Greg Madden


On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
  On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
  Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
  ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
  Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.
 
  You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the way
  you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting is a common
  requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.

 I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
 making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
 post.


I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure boot' 
feature 
of the UEFI bios?

I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI bios, 
SSD 
 mSata.

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Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-09 Thread L V Gandhi
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net wrote:


 On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
  On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
  Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
  ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
  Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.
 
  You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the way
  you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting is a common
  requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.

 I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
 making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
 post.


 I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure boot' 
 feature
 of the UEFI bios?

 I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI bios, 
 SSD
  mSata.

 --
 Peace,

 Greg

Thanks. Do you have dual boot system of windows and wheezy or only
wheezy? If dual boot, can you explain the procedure you adapted to
install both OSs



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Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-08 Thread L V Gandhi
Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.

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Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD

2012-08-08 Thread Gary Dale

On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:

Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.

You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the way 
you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting is a common 
requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.



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