Re: Como Remover o Star Office
Olá, O pacote responde normalmente tanto ao dkpg --purge nome_pct.deb quanto ao apt-get --purge remove nome_pct. Porém, mesmo após rodar o dpkg --purge, os diretórios do Staroffice continuavam no meu hd. Ai, eu dei um olhada lá dentro e tinha um arquivo de setup. Rodei o setup e ele entrou numa tela de instalação, reparo e desinstalação, ai foi só escolher desinstação e o Soffice foi removido direitinho. -- Espero que ajude a quem possa ter o mesmo problema --. A ponto baixo é que se você o instalou para vários usuários, você tem que rodar ./setup em um por um para desinstalá-lo. Só, para constar no histórico, o que aconteceu foi o seguinte: Quando eu o instalei como .deb localmente, a primeira vez que eu tentei usá-lo ele abriu uma tela de configuração, entrada de dados do usuário e etc..., ai acho que ele cria alguma coisa que só deixa desinstalar pelo seu própio programa de instalação. Mas o dpkg --purge nome_pct.deb não é era para desinstalá-lo? Quanto ao Openoffice, ele veio como um arquivo .tar.gz e não .tgz, bem que eu tentei fazer uma .deb dele com o alien, mas é claro que não funcionou, e quando você o descompacta ele gera um diretório chamado install que tem um setup lá dentro e ai você o instá-lo que nem se fosse Rwindows, mas pelo menos ele vem com desinstalador. Muito obrigado aos que me ajudaram! --N - Original Message - From: Mario Olimpio de Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:44 AM Subject: Re: Como Remover o Star Office Olá, Verifique se o Soffice está instalado e em que estado está: dpkg -s nome_do_pcte_soffice_que_veio_do_rpm_via_alien.deb Verifique se ele responde a um dpkg --purge pacote.deb. Se você conseguir o --purge, ele vai desinstalar tudo, removendo todos os arquivos de configuração, i.e., não vai sobrar nenhuma lembrança de que ele foi instalado um dia :) Caso não, ou seja, vc faz o --purge, o dpkg fala que faz, mas na verdade, todo mundo continua lá, então: 1. verifique novamente, após o --purge, o estado do Soffice. 2. se ele continuar dizendo que está instalado, então será preciso fazer o serviço de maneira braçal: procurar todos os arquivos (talvez um dpkg -L pacote.deb informe quem são); removê-los manualmente; alterar (editar) os arquivos da base de dados do dpkg e remover as linhas que apontam para o Soffice como instalado e então alterar os mime.types e mailcap. Há também a possibilidade de o problema ser com o rpm, ou seja, a base de dados do rpm foi ... hummm, não acho que isto é muita viagem :-))) É isso, ou pelo menos, acho que é! :-))) No caso do Openoffice, IMHO, acredito que seja uma boa pegar os .deb e instalar, ao invés dos .tgz -- Mario O.de Menezes, Ph.D. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Como Remover o Star Office
Olá,
Se vc tem certeza que instalou o StarOffice a partir de um .deb,
então um dpkg --purge Nome_do_pacote.deb vai remover tudo.
Caso vc tenha instalado a partir dos pacotes da Sun, que acho o
mais provável, então remova o diretório onde ele foi instalado, altere o
PATH removendo a entrada daquele diretório e caso seja necessário altere
os arquivos de associações (/etc/mime.types - para as entradas dos
arquivos do StarOffice: application/vnd.stardivision.*; /etc/mailcap -
para ver os programas que são chamados para abrir os documentos do
StarOffice).
Se vc pretende instalar o OpenOffice e o fizer a partir dos
.deb's, ele deverá alterar o /etc/mailcap automagicamente para ser
chamado para abrir os documentos do StarOffice.
Há também um arquivo no diretório do usuário, .sversionrc que
contém uma identificação das versões instaladas do {Star|Open}Office,
onde vc pode remover o que for necessário; não remova simplesmente o
arquivo, edite-o removendo a entrada desnecessária e se for a última, aí
então remova o arquivo.
Bem, acredito que seja isto!
---
Mario O.de Menezes, Ph.D. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
Re: Como Remover o Star Office
Caro Mário,
Antes de tentar as sugestões achei que valeria comentar o seguinte:
Realmente eu instalei o Staroffice com um deb, mas vale mencionar que na
verdade ele era um pacote .rpm que eu tranformei para deb c/ alien e depois
o instalei localmente. Porém a algum tempo atrás eu tinha instaldo o
Openoffice sem remover o Soffice, e o Openoffice não era um deb, pois eu o
comprei numa revista e ele tinha um Setup executável de instalação e
configuração.
Acho agora que deve ter sido esta a razão de eu não conseguir remover o
Soffice.
Pergunta. Ainda assim as suas sugestões são válidas? ou eu tenho que
desinstalar o Openoffice e depois desinstalar o Staroffice?
--N
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From: Mario Olimpio de Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Como Remover o Star Office
Olá,
Se vc tem certeza que instalou o StarOffice a partir de um .deb,
então um dpkg --purge Nome_do_pacote.deb vai remover tudo.
Caso vc tenha instalado a partir dos pacotes da Sun, que acho o
mais provável, então remova o diretório onde ele foi instalado, altere o
PATH removendo a entrada daquele diretório e caso seja necessário altere
os arquivos de associações (/etc/mime.types - para as entradas dos
arquivos do StarOffice: application/vnd.stardivision.*; /etc/mailcap -
para ver os programas que são chamados para abrir os documentos do
StarOffice).
Se vc pretende instalar o OpenOffice e o fizer a partir dos
.deb's, ele deverá alterar o /etc/mailcap automagicamente para ser
chamado para abrir os documentos do StarOffice.
Há também um arquivo no diretório do usuário, .sversionrc que
contém uma identificação das versões instaladas do {Star|Open}Office,
onde vc pode remover o que for necessário; não remova simplesmente o
arquivo, edite-o removendo a entrada desnecessária e se for a última, aí
então remova o arquivo.
Bem, acredito que seja isto!
---
Mario O.de Menezes, Ph.D. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
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Re: Como Remover o Star Office
Moçada, Ninguém sabe como resolver este problema? - Original Message - From: Nilman Seguro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:42 PM Subject: Como Remover o Star Office Pessoal, Sou mais um novato na lista tentando fazer a transição do ... p/ Debian GNU/Linux. Instalei o StarOffice no meu computador e agora quero remove-lo. Tentei o seguinte: apt-get remove e apt-get --purge remove ... aparentemente tudo normal, mas acontece que eu tenho um launcher no gnome que inicia o soffice e mesmo depois de rodar os comandos acima o soffice continua instalado no meu hd e funcionando quando eu clico neste launcher. Para informação eu instalei-o com um arquivo .deb localmente, como descrito no Como usar o APT do KOV. Estou usando o Potato R3 com o kernel padrão de instalação. obrigado Nilman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Como Remover o Star Office
Em Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:58:10 -0300 Nilman Seguro [EMAIL PROTECTED] disse que: Instalei o StarOffice no meu computador e agora quero remove-lo. Tentei o seguinte: apt-get remove e apt-get --purge remove ... aparentemente tudo normal, mas acontece que eu tenho um launcher no gnome que inicia o soffice e mesmo depois de rodar os comandos acima o soffice continua instalado no meu hd e funcionando quando eu clico neste launcher. Por um acaso você não teria também o openoffice instalado? Ele está abrindo mesmo o staroffice ou uma encarnação :-) dele? Em todo caso, procure por ele na unha: which soffice (vai te dizer onde é que ele está indo buscar o staroffice) cd /usr/share find -name swriter (mande ele procurar o starwriter) Clique com o botão direito no lançador do gnome e peça propriedades (não tenho certeza, uso o icewm...) Veja para onde ele aponta. Resumo da ópera: vá cercando tentando identificar quem e onde é que está esse soffice que ele está chamando. Espero que ajude. Até Cláudio
Como Remover o Star Office
Pessoal, Sou mais um novato na lista tentando fazer a transição do ... p/ Debian GNU/Linux. Instalei o StarOffice no meu computador e agora quero remove-lo. Tentei o seguinte: apt-get remove e apt-get --purge remove ... aparentemente tudo normal, mas acontece que eu tenho um launcher no gnome que inicia o soffice e mesmo depois de rodar os comandos acima o soffice continua instalado no meu hd e funcionando quando eu clico neste launcher. Para informação eu instalei-o com um arquivo .deb localmente, como descrito no Como usar o APT do KOV. Estou usando o Potato R3 com o kernel padrão de instalação. obrigado Nilman
Re: Star office
Witam. Podobno to się da zrobić (...podobno...). Mi się nie udało :-( (mniemam, że chodzi o Star Office 5.2) Kiedyś w Chip-ie poświęconym StarOffice'owi był cały artykuł na ten temat. Na 'download' były do pobrania odpowiednie archiwa. Jednak pomimo, że zastosowałem wszystkie opisane kroki i wszystkie zakończyły się pomyślnie (nawet zainstalowałem RedHata, żeby było tak jak w tekście) - efekt był niepomyślny... Generalnie obsługa czcionek w linuxowym StarOfficet 5.2 jest chyba źle oprogramowana. True Typów on w ogóle nie obsługuje - żeby je używać trzeba go nieźle oszukać (tworząc kopie w Adobe'ach i używając obu, ale wtedy wychodzą cuda, bo z innych korzysta StarOffice do drukowania, a z innych x-y do wyświetlania), a czcionek adobowych też nie udało mi się zaimportować, aby drukowały polskie literki. Nawet jeśli na ekranie polskie ogonki były, na wydruku pojawiały się krzaki. A jeśli nie było krzaków, to tylko wtedy, gdy sam sobie pozamieniał czcionkę na Lucida (mimo, że tabela zmian czcionki była pusta!). Walka z wiatrakami! Rozwiązania są, moim zdaniem takie: - pracuj w StarOffice 5.2 używając czionek Lucida* (da się z tym przeżyć), - zainstaluj OpenOffice 1.0 - obsługuje True Type'y zainstalowane w x-ach, - używaj KWord - poprawnie obsługuje wszystkie czcionki zainstalowane w x-ach. Nie radzę dotykać Abi Worda, bo też podnosi ciśnienie :-( Pozdrawiam, Roman - Original Message - From: Misiek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-polish@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:22 AM Subject: Star office Witam. Problem banalny, ale doprowadza mnie juz do szalu. Jak wydrukowac cokolwiek z polskimi fontami w star office? Mam plik na uczelnie, polowa tekstu to czcionka (tak pokazuje so) times new roman, a polowa arial. Zadnych blizszych informacji nie ma. Arial, mimo ze nie ma go na liscie czcionek so drukuje sie normalnie, a times bez polskich fontow. Co z tym zrobic? Prosze mnie nie odsylac do googli - szukalem juz a prace mam na jutro :(. M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Star office
dalo mi sie dosc sprytnie wygrukowac ten dokument. Zauwazylem, ze fragment tekstu jest napisany czcianka arial (ktorej so 52 nie mial na swojej liscie czcionek i nie udalo mi sie ich dodac) i w tym miejscu byl zefiniowany styl FR3 ( co to jest nie wiem) i Ten fragment drukowal sie z polskimi fontami. W momencie zaznaczenia FR3 na caly dokument calosc zamieniala sie na ariala (ktorego nie bylo) i drukowala ogonki :). Kopiowanie fragmentu FR3 do innego dokumentu tez pomagalo - mozna go bylo normalnie wydrukowac :) M - Original Message - From: lupu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LISTA: debian-user-polish debian-user-polish@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Star office Witam. Podobno to się da zrobić (...podobno...). Mi się nie udało :-( (mniemam, że chodzi o Star Office 5.2) Kiedyś w Chip-ie poświęconym StarOffice'owi był cały artykuł na ten temat. Na 'download' były do pobrania odpowiednie archiwa. Jednak pomimo, że zastosowałem wszystkie opisane kroki i wszystkie zakończyły się pomyślnie (nawet zainstalowałem RedHata, żeby było tak jak w tekście) - efekt był niepomyślny... Generalnie obsługa czcionek w linuxowym StarOfficet 5.2 jest chyba źle oprogramowana. True Typów on w ogóle nie obsługuje - żeby je używać trzeba go nieźle oszukać (tworząc kopie w Adobe'ach i używając obu, ale wtedy wychodzą cuda, bo z innych korzysta StarOffice do drukowania, a z innych x-y do wyświetlania), a czcionek adobowych też nie udało mi się zaimportować, aby drukowały polskie literki. Nawet jeśli na ekranie polskie ogonki były, na wydruku pojawiały się krzaki. A jeśli nie było krzaków, to tylko wtedy, gdy sam sobie pozamieniał czcionkę na Lucida (mimo, że tabela zmian czcionki była pusta!). Walka z wiatrakami! Rozwiązania są, moim zdaniem takie: - pracuj w StarOffice 5.2 używając czionek Lucida* (da się z tym przeżyć), - zainstaluj OpenOffice 1.0 - obsługuje True Type'y zainstalowane w x-ach, - używaj KWord - poprawnie obsługuje wszystkie czcionki zainstalowane w x-ach. Nie radzę dotykać Abi Worda, bo też podnosi ciśnienie :-( Pozdrawiam, Roman - Original Message - From: Misiek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-polish@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:22 AM Subject: Star office Witam. Problem banalny, ale doprowadza mnie juz do szalu. Jak wydrukowac cokolwiek z polskimi fontami w star office? Mam plik na uczelnie, polowa tekstu to czcionka (tak pokazuje so) times new roman, a polowa arial. Zadnych blizszych informacji nie ma. Arial, mimo ze nie ma go na liscie czcionek so drukuje sie normalnie, a times bez polskich fontow. Co z tym zrobic? Prosze mnie nie odsylac do googli - szukalem juz a prace mam na jutro :(. M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Star office
Misiek wrote: dalo mi sie dosc sprytnie wygrukowac ten dokument. Zauwazylem, ze fragment tekstu jest napisany czcianka arial (ktorej so 52 nie mial na swojej liscie czcionek i nie udalo mi sie ich dodac) i w tym miejscu byl zefiniowany styl FR3 ( co to jest nie wiem) i Ten fragment drukowal sie z polskimi fontami. W momencie zaznaczenia FR3 na caly dokument calosc zamieniala sie na ariala (ktorego nie bylo) i drukowala ogonki :). Kopiowanie fragmentu FR3 do innego dokumentu tez pomagalo - mozna go bylo normalnie wydrukowac :) M a nie można tego po prostu puścić przez ogonkify z apsfilter albo magicfilterem? (sorry jeżeli wyskoczyłem jak filip z konopii, ale już nie pamiętam jak to było z SO 5.2) faktem jest, że jeśli dokumenty Worda są zbyt 'wymyślne' to są problemy, nie wspominając o kilku ustawieniach językowych w jednym dokumencie... :( -- szaleniec!? jaki szaleniec!? tysiące szaleńców!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Star office
W liście z czw, 20-06-2002, godz. 00:22, Misiek pisze: (...) Co z tym zrobic? Prosze mnie nie odsylac do googli - szukalem juz a prace mam na jutro :(. M Bawiles sie juz CUPSem - przyznam szczerze ze po krotkim renesansie w sofcie stwierdzilem ze cups jest ql, i dodatkowo od razu zniknely wszelkie problemy z ogonkami -- Pozdrawiam Jaroslaw Zieba uin: 76644709, gg: 1401030 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Star office
On 20 Jun 2002 10:28:44 +0200 Jaroslaw Zieba wrote: Co z tym zrobic? Prosze mnie nie odsylac do googli - szukalem juz a prace mam na jutro :(. Bawiles sie juz CUPSem - przyznam szczerze ze po krotkim renesansie w sofcie stwierdzilem ze cups jest ql, i dodatkowo od razu zniknely wszelkie problemy z ogonkami Z mojej strony dodam, że znikły też problemy typu jak użyć drukarki udostępnionej przez windows. -- Marcin '(Szczepan|Hrw)' Juszkiewicz mailto:(marcinj@(netbox|polnet.wroc)|(marcin|hrw|szczepan)@amiga).pl The computer is mightier than the pen, the sword, and usually, the programmer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Star office
Witam. Problem banalny, ale doprowadza mnie juz do szalu. Jak wydrukowac cokolwiek z polskimi fontami w star office? Mam plik na uczelnie, polowa tekstu to czcionka (tak pokazuje so) times new roman, a polowa arial. Zadnych blizszych informacji nie ma. Arial, mimo ze nie ma go na liscie czcionek so drukuje sie normalnie, a times bez polskich fontow. Co z tym zrobic? Prosze mnie nie odsylac do googli - szukalem juz a prace mam na jutro :(. M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fonts in Star Office (RESOLVED) [kind of]
Have you the xtt module in your XF86Config file ? If yes replace it with freetype. Christophe On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 07:39:39PM -0600, user list wrote: I posted a problem on this list roghly 1.5 weeks ago about missing fonts in Star Office. To recap, I am running XF86 4.2.0 compiled from source on a testing box. Star office was missing many fonts. I was given some advice to add fonts using spadmin. I tried that with no results. I have now used the xset fp= command and I now have a reasonable looking set of fonts. However, I don't understand the following behavior. If I use xset fp= /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ Everything looks reasonable. If I use xset fp= /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ I go back to many missing fonts. If I use xset fp= /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/local/office52/share/fonts/type1,/usr/local/office52/share/fonts/75dpi Things again look reasonable. Any insight would be appreciated. Art Edwards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christophe Barbé [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FingerPrint: E0F6 FADF 2A5C F072 6AF8 F67A 8F45 2F1E D72C B41E A qui sait comprendre, peu de mots suffisent. (Intelligenti pauca.) pgpPn8xBaBR5t.pgp Description: PGP signature
fonts in Star Office (RESOLVED) [kind of]
I posted a problem on this list roghly 1.5 weeks ago about missing fonts in Star Office. To recap, I am running XF86 4.2.0 compiled from source on a testing box. Star office was missing many fonts. I was given some advice to add fonts using spadmin. I tried that with no results. I have now used the xset fp= command and I now have a reasonable looking set of fonts. However, I don't understand the following behavior. If I use xset fp= /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ Everything looks reasonable. If I use xset fp= /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ I go back to many missing fonts. If I use xset fp= /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/local/office52/share/fonts/type1,/usr/local/office52/share/fonts/75dpi Things again look reasonable. Any insight would be appreciated. Art Edwards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fonts in Star Office (Why do they fail under Woody?)
Thanks for the response. Does anyone know WHY this fails for XFree86 4.2 and Woody? Art On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:38:14PM -0700, Florentin Ionescu wrote: Try spadmin - fonts - add It worked for me. On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, user list wrote : » Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:26:50 -0600 » From: user list [EMAIL PROTECTED] » To: debian-user@lists.debian.org » Subject: fonts in Star Office » Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:05:22 -0700 » Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org » » I have been reading the threads on fonts on this list. My problem seems » similar, yet different. Star Office doesn't find many of the standard fonts, » including » » coates/home/edwardsaFailed to load font -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--19-0-0-0-p-*-iso8859-1 » Please verify your fontpath settings » (See man xset for details or ask your system administrator) » » » I'm neither a fonts genius nor a fonts moron but here is where I think things » stand. » » I'm running XF86 4.2.0 compiled from source. my Files section of the » XF86Config-4 file is » » Section Files » RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb » ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ » FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled » FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ » FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ » EndSection » » I have checked the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log and I find » » (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ » » So that the font path seems correct » » I find the helvetica font under the usual /X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 in the fonts.alias file. So, I'm officially mystified. » » Art Edwards » » » -- Have a nice day on the planet earth... Florentin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fonts in Star Office
I have been reading the threads on fonts on this list. My problem seems similar, yet different. Star Office doesn't find many of the standard fonts, including coates/home/edwardsaFailed to load font -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--19-0-0-0-p-*-iso8859-1 Please verify your fontpath settings (See man xset for details or ask your system administrator) I'm neither a fonts genius nor a fonts moron but here is where I think things stand. I'm running XF86 4.2.0 compiled from source. my Files section of the XF86Config-4 file is Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection I have checked the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log and I find (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ So that the font path seems correct I find the helvetica font under the usual /X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 in the fonts.alias file. So, I'm officially mystified. Art Edwards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fonts in Star Office
Try spadmin - fonts - add It worked for me. On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, user list wrote : » Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:26:50 -0600 » From: user list [EMAIL PROTECTED] » To: debian-user@lists.debian.org » Subject: fonts in Star Office » Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:05:22 -0700 » Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org » » I have been reading the threads on fonts on this list. My problem seems » similar, yet different. Star Office doesn't find many of the standard fonts, » including » » coates/home/edwardsaFailed to load font -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--19-0-0-0-p-*-iso8859-1 » Please verify your fontpath settings » (See man xset for details or ask your system administrator) » » » I'm neither a fonts genius nor a fonts moron but here is where I think things » stand. » » I'm running XF86 4.2.0 compiled from source. my Files section of the » XF86Config-4 file is » » Section Files » RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb » ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ » FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled » FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ » FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ » FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ » EndSection » » I have checked the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log and I find » » (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ » » So that the font path seems correct » » I find the helvetica font under the usual /X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 in the fonts.alias file. So, I'm officially mystified. » » Art Edwards » » » -- Have a nice day on the planet earth... Florentin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Download do Star office 5.2 fora do site da SUN
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:38:08 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá gostaria de saber onde carregar o star office 5.2 , fora do site da SUN Grato PRS Se você usa ximian pode pegar o redcarpet e baixar por ele. -- nick: fsf (fsf significa fsf) alternativo: finsu (finsu is not simple user) Viva o software livre www.fsf.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Download do Star office 5.2 fora do site da SUN
vai em www.hotlink.com.br. tem na seção de download. Em Sáb, 2002-04-20 às 14:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Olá gostaria de saber onde carregar o star office 5.2 , fora do site da SUN Grato PRS -- /\ .''`. | Lucianno Albuquerque Ramalho (.-.. .- .-.) | : :' : | lucianno AT hotlink.com.br - lucianno AT dotx.com.br | dot\/ `. `'` | Linux User #197232 - ICQ #45967059 |/\ `-| Live Free or Die !!! - Powered by Debian GNU/Linux | \/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: Star Office Installation
Here is the output: -wee:~$ ls -l /usr/local/soffice total 42304 -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:19 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-000.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 08:52 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-001.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 08:57 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-002.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:01 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-003.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:01 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-004.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:09 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-005.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:03 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-006.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:10 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-007.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:14 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-008.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:15 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-009.bin -rwxr-xr-x1 israel root 11677720 Mar 4 09:06 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 16327461 Mar 4 04:38 soa-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 15247168 Mar 4 04:51 sop-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin Thanks alot! -Israel Bannerman -Original Message- From: Bob Thibodeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:28 PM To: Bannerman, Israel Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org ' Subject: Re: Star Office Installation What's the output of ls -l /usr/local/soffice ? Bob On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 05:26:07PM -0500, Bannerman, Israel wrote: To all: I just downloaded Star Office and I am trying to install the application. Before downloading the file I did: mkdir -m 0755 /usr/local/soffice chown me /usr/local/soffice I then downloaded the application to the /usr/local/soffice directory. I then did: chmod 0755 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin chown me so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin Afterwards I tried running the ./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin but it came back saying file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-000.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-001.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-002.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-003.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-004.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-005.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-006.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-007.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-008.bin error: One or more files are missing! Please ensure that all necessary files are present. So I went back and downloaded each individual file. The installation is still not working and I am still getting the same message. Please help. I am new to Linux/Debian and am in much need for help. Thanks alot! -Israel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Star Office Installation
compare the error messages to the file names cd /usr/local/soffice mv so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-000.bin so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-000.bin ---^^^ etc... Bob Quoting Bannerman, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is the output: -wee:~$ ls -l /usr/local/soffice total 42304 -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:19 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-000.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 08:52 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-001.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 08:57 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-002.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:01 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-003.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:01 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-004.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:09 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-005.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:03 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-006.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:10 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-007.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:14 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-008.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:15 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-009.bin -rwxr-xr-x1 israel root 11677720 Mar 4 09:06 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 16327461 Mar 4 04:38 soa-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 15247168 Mar 4 04:51 sop-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-000.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-001.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-002.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-003.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-004.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-005.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-006.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-007.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-008.bin error: One or more files are missing! Please ensure that all necessary files are present. So I went back and downloaded each individual file. The installation is still not working and I am still getting the same message. Please help. I am new to Linux/Debian and am in much need for help. Thanks alot! -Israel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Star Office Installation -- oh oh! Another problem
look at the file sizes on so-5_2*00[1-8].bin 0 as opposed to *9.bin (which didn't generate an error) 11677720 Try downloading again Bob Quoting Bannerman, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is the output: -wee:~$ ls -l /usr/local/soffice total 42304 -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:19 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-000.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 08:52 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-001.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 08:57 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-002.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:01 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-003.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:01 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-004.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:09 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-005.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:03 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-006.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:10 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-007.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:14 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-008.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 0 Mar 5 09:15 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-009.bin -rwxr-xr-x1 israel root 11677720 Mar 4 09:06 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 16327461 Mar 4 04:38 soa-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin -rw-r--r--1 israel israel 15247168 Mar 4 04:51 sop-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin Thanks alot! -Israel Bannerman -Original Message- From: Bob Thibodeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:28 PM To: Bannerman, Israel Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org ' Subject: Re: Star Office Installation What's the output of ls -l /usr/local/soffice ? Bob On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 05:26:07PM -0500, Bannerman, Israel wrote: To all: I just downloaded Star Office and I am trying to install the application. Before downloading the file I did: mkdir -m 0755 /usr/local/soffice chown me /usr/local/soffice I then downloaded the application to the /usr/local/soffice directory. I then did: chmod 0755 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin chown me so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin Afterwards I tried running the ./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin but it came back saying file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-000.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-001.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-002.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-003.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-004.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-005.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-006.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-007.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-008.bin error: One or more files are missing! Please ensure that all necessary files are present. So I went back and downloaded each individual file. The installation is still not working and I am still getting the same message. Please help. I am new to Linux/Debian and am in much need for help. Thanks alot! -Israel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Star Office Installation
--- Bannerman, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all: I just downloaded Star Office and I am trying to install the application. Before downloading the file I did: mkdir -m 0755 /usr/local/soffice chown me /usr/local/soffice I then downloaded the application to the /usr/local/soffice directory. I then did: chmod 0755 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin chown me so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin Afterwards I tried running the ./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin but it came back saying file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-000.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-001.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-002.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-003.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-004.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-005.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-006.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-007.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-008.bin error: One or more files are missing! Please ensure that all necessary files are present. So I went back and downloaded each individual file. The installation is still not working and I am still getting the same message. Please help. I am new to Linux/Debian and am in much need for help. Thanks alot! -Israel Hi this seems a strange way to install Star Office or perhaps just different to how I would do it. Star Office has it's own installer so there is no need to move the installation file to where you would like it installed. The installer will ask you where you would like it installed. There are 2 ways you can install Star Office. One is a net installation where you install it so all users on your system can use it in their own accounts. The other is a single user installation where you install it in your home account and you are the only user with access to it. I prefer the net installation and usually install it into /opt. To do this run the install file as root with /net (ignore the quotation marks but keep the slash) as a paramenter. This will install the base. Then from your normal user account run setup and your account will then have access to everything Star Office has to offer. Cheers Geoff http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool.
Star Office Installation
To all: I just downloaded Star Office and I am trying to install the application. Before downloading the file I did: mkdir -m 0755 /usr/local/soffice chown me /usr/local/soffice I then downloaded the application to the /usr/local/soffice directory. I then did: chmod 0755 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin chown me so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin Afterwards I tried running the ./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin but it came back saying file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-000.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-001.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-002.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-003.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-004.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-005.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-006.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-007.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-008.bin error: One or more files are missing! Please ensure that all necessary files are present. So I went back and downloaded each individual file. The installation is still not working and I am still getting the same message. Please help. I am new to Linux/Debian and am in much need for help. Thanks alot! -Israel
Re: Star Office Installation
What's the output of ls -l /usr/local/soffice ? Bob On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 05:26:07PM -0500, Bannerman, Israel wrote: To all: I just downloaded Star Office and I am trying to install the application. Before downloading the file I did: mkdir -m 0755 /usr/local/soffice chown me /usr/local/soffice I then downloaded the application to the /usr/local/soffice directory. I then did: chmod 0755 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin chown me so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin Afterwards I tried running the ./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin but it came back saying file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-000.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-001.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-002.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-003.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-004.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-005.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-006.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-007.bin file not found '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-008.bin error: One or more files are missing! Please ensure that all necessary files are present. So I went back and downloaded each individual file. The installation is still not working and I am still getting the same message. Please help. I am new to Linux/Debian and am in much need for help. Thanks alot! -Israel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Star Office 6
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 10:20:56AM -0500, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: Where, exactly, did this text come from? It's quoted from the license agreement for Star Office 6 beta. -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgpQhlkSPAGGx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office 6
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 08:35:51PM +0300, Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 06:11:08AM -0700, sheine wrote: I have downloaded all the files for Star Office 6, but haven't the slightest idea of how to install them. The guide describes a method that relates to the CD version. All the files are of the form *.bin. Does anybody know what to do next? Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or did you? If you did, guess you'd better reconsider: 3.0 LICENSE RESTRICTIONS [...] 3.4 Licensee shall have no right to use the Licensed Software for productive or commercial use. You did read the license agreement of course, right? :) I think I prefer OpenOffice, if I really *really* need to edit Word documents... there's a difference between 'lack of right to...' and 'prohibited from...' i don't have a right to borrow your lawn mower. i may use up all your gas, or i may perform some claen-up and maintenance on it, and return it with a full tank and fresh oil -- but i still don't have the right. nor am i forbidden, until you say i am. the agreement doesn't say MUST NOT use Licensed Software for productive or commercial use. it says shall have no right to. -- DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #14 from Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] : What's a RUNLEVEL? It's simply a big-time setting group; runlevel 2 might have a full-blown web server plus X running, and runlevel 3 might be ssh-only, for secure logins. Check /etc/inittab (and /etc/rcRUNLEVEL.d/*) for details on how yours are set up. And try man runlevel. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
Re: Star Office 6
Where, exactly, did this text come from? will trillich wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 08:35:51PM +0300, Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 06:11:08AM -0700, sheine wrote: I have downloaded all the files for Star Office 6, but haven't the slightest idea of how to install them. The guide describes a method that relates to the CD version. All the files are of the form *.bin. Does anybody know what to do next? Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or did you? If you did, guess you'd better reconsider: 3.0 LICENSE RESTRICTIONS [...] 3.4 Licensee shall have no right to use the Licensed Software for productive or commercial use. You did read the license agreement of course, right? :) I think I prefer OpenOffice, if I really *really* need to edit Word documents...
Re: Star Office 6
Phillip Deackes wrote: On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 07:12:06 -0700 sheine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed the permissions and got new troubles. The soa and sop files started, but told me that I did not have enough disk memory, when I am reasonably sure that I do. The first so file told me that I needed the directory on the last so file. When I tried it, I was told that a bin file couldn't be executed. Has anyone made this thing work? Yes. It is wonderful too. I ran the x.bin file (as root) like this: x.bin -net I don't know the answer, but what I have noticed is that the OP downloaded multiple files, and all the answers to date have been about a single file. The problem appears to be specific to having multiple files. Unfortunately, while I think I did download multiple files for 5.2 ages ago, I can't remember what I did. I now have the single file, so maybe I gave up. I have just downloaded the (single) file for openoffice, but haven't tried it yet. Not that that's relevant - except to the response about licensing. Richard
Re: Re. Star Office 6
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 01:37:55PM -0700, sheine wrote: Tommi Komulainen wrote: Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or did you? If you did, guess you'd better reconsider: [I was referring to StarOffice there] I guess I should've added more smileys there... The whole point was that nobody ever reads the license agreements. Please, do feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. :) You must agree that prohibiting productive work in the license agreement is somewhat amusing. I know, it's beta, but still... This message caused me to reconsider the several years that I have fooled around with linux. Maybe it is just a computer game, not a serious tool. It doesn't crash like Windows, but no matter how well things are going, a new problem always arises. In the absence of good documentation, the best way to solve a problem is to go to this web site. But a tool is something that works when you need it and doesn't continuously call attention to itself. Interesting response to my half-assed attempt to remind that one might want to read the license agreement every now and then. Now, would you be surprised if I told you that the same clause prohibiting productive work is also present in the Windows version license agreement? Does that make you wonder if Windows is just a computer game, not a serious tool? And what about Solaris? I believe that one should use the tool that gets the job done. However there usually is more than one thing to do so you have compromise. You can do one job very well in one platform but some other job in the same platform gives you massive headaches. And yet both jobs has to be done. One has to find a suitable balance between productivity and headaches. For me and my programmer's nature Linux is clearly the winner (of those that I've tried so far.) For you it might be something else. Hammer is *not* the only tool there is in the toolbox. -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgp2KAsoa8zEm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Star Office 6
I have downloaded all the files for Star Office 6, but haven't the slightest idea of how to install them. The guide describes a method that relates to the CD version. All the files are of the form *.bin. Does anybody know what to do next?
Re: Star Office 6
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 06:11:08AM -0700, sheine wrote: I have downloaded all the files for Star Office 6, but haven't the slightest idea of how to install them. The guide describes a method that relates to the CD version. All the files are of the form *.bin. Does anybody know what to do next? Just make it executable and run it. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 Pretty soon, massive bloat is the industry standard and everyone is using huge, buggy programs not even their developers can love. -Eric S. Raymond, The Art of Unix Programming pgpO9YnP4GNGD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office 6
I changed the permissions and got new troubles. The soa and sop files started, but told me that I did not have enough disk memory, when I am reasonably sure that I do. The first so file told me that I needed the directory on the last so file. When I tried it, I was told that a bin file couldn't be executed. Has anyone made this thing work?
Re: Star Office 6
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 07:12:06 -0700 sheine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed the permissions and got new troubles. The soa and sop files started, but told me that I did not have enough disk memory, when I am reasonably sure that I do. The first so file told me that I needed the directory on the last so file. When I tried it, I was told that a bin file couldn't be executed. Has anyone made this thing work? Yes. It is wonderful too. I ran the x.bin file (as root) like this: x.bin -net I installed it into /opt/staroffice6.0 Once installed, I ran to /opt/staroffice6.0/setup which installed a few files into my home directory. I prefer to install this way, I don't like executable apps in home. Runs very smoothly. I am head of the ICT department in a UK high school and have installed the Windows version of Star Office at school. It works so well I am seriously considering ditching MS Office. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Star Office 6
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 07:12:06AM -0700, sheine wrote: I changed the permissions and got new troubles. The soa and sop files started, but told me that I did not have enough disk memory, when I am reasonably sure that I do. The first so file told me that I needed the directory on the last so file. When I tried it, I was told that a bin file couldn't be executed. Has anyone made this thing work? I had a similar problem when I downloaded files that were corrupted by my web browser. I used ncftp instead and it worked fine. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 Pretty soon, massive bloat is the industry standard and everyone is using huge, buggy programs not even their developers can love. -Eric S. Raymond, The Art of Unix Programming pgpjDycGURSsw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office 6
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 06:11:08AM -0700, sheine wrote: I have downloaded all the files for Star Office 6, but haven't the slightest idea of how to install them. The guide describes a method that relates to the CD version. All the files are of the form *.bin. Does anybody know what to do next? Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or did you? If you did, guess you'd better reconsider: 3.0 LICENSE RESTRICTIONS [...] 3.4 Licensee shall have no right to use the Licensed Software for productive or commercial use. You did read the license agreement of course, right? :) I think I prefer OpenOffice, if I really *really* need to edit Word documents... -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgpotUyhuSSoX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re. Star Office 6
Tommi Komulainen wrote: Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or did you? If you did, guess you'd better reconsider: This message caused me to reconsider the several years that I have fooled around with linux. Maybe it is just a computer game, not a serious tool. It doesn't crash like Windows, but no matter how well things are going, a new problem always arises. In the absence of good documentation, the best way to solve a problem is to go to this web site. But a tool is something that works when you need it and doesn't continuously call attention to itself. I suppose that this will offend real linux enthusiasts for whom building linux is the goal. However, for ordinary people like me, what is wanted is a reliable tool at least as good as Windows, without subservience to Microsoft. I shall continue to play the linux game, but regrettably depend on Windows for serious work. Would that it were otherwise.
Re: Re. Star Office 6
sheine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tommi Komulainen wrote: Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or did you? If you did, guess you'd better reconsider: This message caused me to reconsider the several years that I have fooled around with linux. Maybe it is just a computer game, not a serious tool. Linux is not the tool for all needs right now, and Star Office is not the only tool on Linux. First, the SO6 beta is a beta. One should not depend on a beta for production needs on any platform. It's always better to have a stable baseline for production use, even if it may be more buggy in some ways than the latest beta: at least you know the bugs in the stable release and can work around them. Second, there are lots of other tools which are stable under Linux. I've been getting work done for 7 years using Linux. In general, I don't use Office apps much... as a software developer under Unix and relatives, I don't need to very often. For my personal documentation needs, LaTeX is ideal. For work, where MS Office reigns supreme and I need to transfer docs back and forth all the time, MS is the only option, unfortunately. No other office suite, under any platform, does round tripping without diminishing my productivity. Free tools such as Gnumeric and Abiword, however, do meet my needs for document display, so I don't need to pump up VMware unless I need to edit. Your needs are likely to be unique to you, and what works well for one person may not for you. But for many people Linux is already ready for serious work. It may need more time learning how to fit within its worldview, but usually rewards with increased reliability and flexibility. -- Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - In a variety of flavors! Actually, my goal is to have a sandwich named after me.
Re: Re. Star Office 6
Hello sheine, I am not sure what qualifies for serious work. I have been using StarOffice 5.2 since it came out for serious and productive work without nearly the amount of lost work as I had previously with any MS office product. It's not perfect but it is more reliable than MS products I have spent years pulling my hair out over. I installed SO6.0 on one of my machines (Debian Potato 2.2.17) and have begun to play a little with it. To do so, after I down loaded the file (something.bin) I had to do a chmod +x so-6.something.bin and then ./so-6.something.bin (sorry I don't remember the full name) and the whole install process started and completed in under five minutes. It all worked fine after that. I suggest that, since this is a beta release, the license states what it does because it is exactly that...beta software. I hope this helps. T. Tilton sheine wrote: Tommi Komulainen wrote: Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or did you? If you did, guess you'd better reconsider: This message caused me to reconsider the several years that I have fooled around with linux. Maybe it is just a computer game, not a serious tool. It doesn't crash like Windows, but no matter how well things are going, a new problem always arises. In the absence of good documentation, the best way to solve a problem is to go to this web site. But a tool is something that works when you need it and doesn't continuously call attention to itself. I suppose that this will offend real linux enthusiasts for whom building linux is the goal. However, for ordinary people like me, what is wanted is a reliable tool at least as good as Windows, without subservience to Microsoft. I shall continue to play the linux game, but regrettably depend on Windows for serious work. Would that it were otherwise. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
star office 5.2
Hello. I've tried to set up Star Office 5.2. I first downloaded so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin from the Sun's website. Then I made the downloaded file executable, and ran it as root, with option /net. Now, if I try to run soffice or setup, as an ordinary user or a root, all I get is message sying: The installation program cannot find the script file in which all of the instructions required for the installation have been saved. The file was looked in the following directory: /usr/local/so52/program/setup.ins The installation program cannot be executed without this file, it will now be terminated. What am I doing wrong? Petteri Heinonen tel:+358 50 3363286 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] addr: Varvikonkatu 1 C 19 33820 Tampere FIN
Re: star office 5.2
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 12:53:46PM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote: Hello. I've tried to set up Star Office 5.2. I first downloaded so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin from the Sun's website. Then I made the downloaded file executable, and ran it as root, with option /net. Now, When you ran the initial install as shown above, did it go through the whole GUI install with accept license, choose directory, copy lots of files to that directory, etc.? I've heard that soffice has some library requirements which aren't part of a normal install. I don't remember what they are - that's just what I saw on a thread a while ago. I installed this myself last week without a hitch on a stock Potato machine. -- Thank you, Joe Bouchard Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
Já que falam de star office debianizado
Alguem me pode dizer onde é que eu posso fazer o download dessa preciosidade (star office .deb). Eu sou um iniciado no linux e adorava largar de vez o windows e o star office ia ajudar. Obrigado :-) -- 10Mb na sua caixa de email gratuita no mail.pt http://www.mail.pt
Re: star office debianizado
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:46:57 -0300 Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:44:22 -0300 (BRT) Rodrigo Gruppelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Gente, voces sabem se alguem empacatou o star office pro debianito? De preferencia com os badulaques pt_BR :) não... e deve ser um baita porre fazer isso hehehe... sei que estão trabalhando no Open Office pro Debian main... É mais prudente usar o Open Office. Se eu quizer rodar uma planilha tenho que baixar tudo. Sinceramente sou mais o AbiWord + GIMP + Gnumeric. Ontem Abri uns documentos Word e Excel da empresa com o AbiWord e o Gnumeric e fiquei impressionado, né que o Gnumeric abriu as planilhas do excel perfeitamente, rapaz. O problema é que o Gnumeric abriu com celulas mescladas e formularios, mas acho que nao há opçao pra fazer o mesmo em planilhas .gnumeric, ou tem? Ouvi falar de um tal de Hancom Office que é distribuido pela Red Hat na Korea.
Re: star office debianizado
Em Seg 25 Jun 2001 20:46, Gustavo Noronha Silva escreveu: Em Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:44:22 -0300 (BRT) Rodrigo Gruppelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Gente, voces sabem se alguem empacatou o star office pro debianito? De preferencia com os badulaques pt_BR :) não... e deve ser um baita porre fazer isso hehehe... sei que estão trabalhando no Open Office pro Debian main... Oficialmente só existe StarOffice para pt. Para pt_BR funciona as localizações de moeda e virgula no lugar de ponto para decimais. Para um preguiçoso, porém , basta pegar o rpm do StarOffice distribuído pela Conectiva e passar pelo alien. O pacote StarOffice coloca tudo que precisa em único diretório, não sai distribuindo coisas pelo /usr/lib e /usr/share e não mexe em nada com as configurações do sistema, portanto um pacote assim gerado pelo alien não vai quebrar coisa alguma. Porém, se não for alerado nada ele vai instalar o StarOffice no diretorio /opt que se não me engano não existe na instalação Debian. A vantagem é que o StarOffice fica registrado como programa instalado e basta dar um dpkg -i pacote para o pacote ser desenpacotado. O pacote assim feito pelo alien facilitou a minha vida na hora de instalar o StarOffice em várias máquinas, pois eu gravei um cd com o staroffice_5.2_03_569g4-2_i386.deb gerado pelo alien e eu pude continuar dormindo na rede tomando água de coco e dizer para os gajos que não possuem conecção rápida na rede algumas instruçoes simples de como fazer a instalação. Odair
Re: star office debianizado
Fala Odair!!!
Em Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:11:43 -0300
Odair G Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
Cara, você poderia me passar o link de onde você baixou o pacote do
StarOffice que vem com o Conectiva? Procurei pelo mirror deles e não
achei. Parece que ele vem no CD-6 do conectiva 6.0, mas não consegui
emcontrar nem no rpmfind.
Se puderes me indicar uma URL de onde eu possa baixar este pacote
(StarOffice-5.2_03_569g4-1.i386.rpm), ficaria extrememente grato.
Oficialmente só existe StarOffice para pt. Para pt_BR funciona as
localizações de moeda e virgula no lugar de ponto para decimais. Para um
preguiçoso, porém , basta pegar o rpm do StarOffice distribuído pela
Conectiva e passar pelo alien. O pacote StarOffice coloca tudo
que precisa em único diretório, não sai distribuindo coisas pelo
/usr/lib
e /usr/share e não mexe em nada com as configurações do sistema,
portanto um pacote assim gerado pelo alien não vai quebrar coisa alguma.
Porém, se não for alerado nada ele vai instalar o StarOffice no
diretorio /opt
que se não me engano não existe na instalação Debian. A vantagem é que
o
StarOffice fica registrado como programa instalado e basta dar um dpkg
-i
pacote para o pacote ser desenpacotado. O pacote assim feito pelo
alien facilitou a minha vida na hora de instalar o StarOffice em várias
máquinas, pois eu gravei um cd com o staroffice_5.2_03_569g4-2_i386.deb
gerado pelo alien e eu pude continuar dormindo na rede tomando água de
coco
e dizer para os gajos que não possuem conecção rápida na rede algumas
instruçoes simples de como fazer a instalação.
Odair
Abraços,
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Re: star office debianizado
Em Ter 26 Jun 2001 11:30, Marcelo Drudi Miranda escreveu: Fala Odair!!! Em Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:11:43 -0300 Odair G Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Cara, você poderia me passar o link de onde você baixou o pacote do StarOffice que vem com o Conectiva? Procurei pelo mirror deles e não achei. Parece que ele vem no CD-6 do conectiva 6.0, mas não consegui emcontrar nem no rpmfind. Se puderes me indicar uma URL de onde eu possa baixar este pacote (StarOffice-5.2_03_569g4-1.i386.rpm), ficaria extrememente grato. Se não me engano apenas a Sun tem o StarOffice disponível na rede. Eu utilizei O StarOffice que veio na Revista Linux número 11. Odair
Re: star office debianizado
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:30:47 +
Marcelo Drudi Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fala Odair!!!
Em Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:11:43 -0300
Odair G Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
Cara, você poderia me passar o link de onde você baixou o pacote do
StarOffice que vem com o Conectiva? Procurei pelo mirror deles e não
achei. Parece que ele vem no CD-6 do conectiva 6.0, mas não consegui
emcontrar nem no rpmfind.
Neste endereço você vai encontrar para Linux, Windows em português,
inglês
http://www.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/get/get.html
Se puderes me indicar uma URL de onde eu possa baixar este pacote
(StarOffice-5.2_03_569g4-1.i386.rpm), ficaria extrememente grato.
Oficialmente só existe StarOffice para pt. Para pt_BR funciona as
localizações de moeda e virgula no lugar de ponto para decimais. Para um
preguiçoso, porém , basta pegar o rpm do StarOffice distribuído pela
Conectiva e passar pelo alien. O pacote StarOffice coloca tudo
que precisa em único diretório, não sai distribuindo coisas pelo
/usr/lib
e /usr/share e não mexe em nada com as configurações do sistema,
portanto um pacote assim gerado pelo alien não vai quebrar coisa alguma.
Porém, se não for alerado nada ele vai instalar o StarOffice no
diretorio /opt
que se não me engano não existe na instalação Debian. A vantagem é que
o
StarOffice fica registrado como programa instalado e basta dar um dpkg
-i
pacote para o pacote ser desenpacotado. O pacote assim feito pelo
alien facilitou a minha vida na hora de instalar o StarOffice em várias
máquinas, pois eu gravei um cd com o staroffice_5.2_03_569g4-2_i386.deb
gerado pelo alien e eu pude continuar dormindo na rede tomando água de
coco
e dizer para os gajos que não possuem conecção rápida na rede algumas
instruçoes simples de como fazer a instalação.
Odair
Abraços,
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star office debianizado
Gente, voces sabem se alguem empacatou o star office pro debianito? De preferencia com os badulaques pt_BR :) []s Rodrigo Gruppelli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GABBA GABBA HEY Computer Science - UCPEL - RS - Brazil ICQ: UIN 4511364 IRC: #Mundo #GameROM #Canguçu #Linux #Linux-RS BrasNET IRC Network Registered Linux User #81719 /\ \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ Close the window$... Open the doors of perception :)- Ride a linux machine! * Eu sou inteiramente contra as drogas meu filho... * * É por isso que eu não assisto nem a Globo, nem o SBT * * nem a Record. (Marcelo Nova) *
Re: star office debianizado
Em Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:44:22 -0300 (BRT) Rodrigo Gruppelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Gente, voces sabem se alguem empacatou o star office pro debianito? De preferencia com os badulaques pt_BR :) não... e deve ser um baita porre fazer isso hehehe... sei que estão trabalhando no Open Office pro Debian main... []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | **
Re: star office debian-correct installation
On 06/10/01 17:37:44 -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: :This started the installation program I put it in :/usr/local/bin/soffice52. After the installation finished, I then :logged in as an unpriviledged user, and ran: : :$ /usr/local/bin/soffice52/program/setup AFAIR, if you run soffice as a regular user it will so the setup thing (and then exit so you must run soffice again) Never tried that. But that's nice to know if you just tell someone to run soffice and it sets itself up for you. Cool. :Then to run StarOffice, you would then run ~/office52/soffice. You :might want to add ~/office52 to your path. On my network install I symlinked /usr/local/Office5.2/program/soffice to /usr/local/bin/soffice, this works fine and is much simple. In fact I didn't realize I had a ~/office52/soffice, untill you pointed that out. Yeah, I used to do that with the earlier versions of SO that had each of the programs as standalone apps. I think that was something like version 3. Ever since it started placing files in ~, I just ran it from there. :You may need to log in as root, startx, then run the main SO :installation before running the user installation. You don't need to be root, using sudo is fine. If you don't know what sudo is, install it and read the man page then ask here, it's *very* useful. I've never used sudo. Whenever I need to do something as root, I use su. What's the difference? Is one better/more secure than the other? :Hope this helps. If you have any questions, I hope I can answer them. Wow, you really went the extra mile on this one, much respect. -Jon Well, I take and take, so when I get the opportunity to help, I try. Thanks for the encouragement! Cheers! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: star office debian-correct installation
Mark Wagnon wrote: Also, this installation occured on a system running woody, and I don't have java installed so I don't have java support in SO. -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] AFAIR you'll only need java when you use SO as a web brower and e-mail client (I think it uses java for PGP support). If you want java support make sure to get the right version from Blackdown. Frank
Re: star office debian-correct installation
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:25:23PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: On 06/10/01 17:37:44 -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: You don't need to be root, using sudo is fine. If you don't know what sudo is, install it and read the man page then ask here, it's *very* useful. I've never used sudo. Whenever I need to do something as root, I use su. What's the difference? Is one better/more secure than the other? That is a topic of much debate. In general, I fall on the sudo is evil side of the fence, but the basic arguments are: pro-sudo: It allows you to give limited root access to certain users without requiring that they know the root password. This allows you to distribute administrative tasks to various people without giving them full control of the machine. anti-sudo: It allows you to give limited root access to certain users without requiring that they know the root password. This allows an attacker to obtain elevated privileges on the machine by discovering only a user password instead of requiring that they find both a user password and the root password. IMO, one well-controlled point of vulnerability (the root password) is preferable to several uncontrolled points of vulnerability (user passwords). The only time I think sudo is worthwhile is on a multiuser machine where all admin power cannot. for whatever reason, be concentrated in a single person. And even then, you have to be very careful about what commands you allow to be run through sudo - if you can open a shell from something run under sudo, you've got a fully-empowered root shell, easy as that. -- That's not gibberish... It's Linux. - Byers, The Lone Gunmen Geek Code 3.12: GCS d? s+: a C++ UL$ P+ L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w--- O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv+ b+ DI D G e* h r y+
Re: star office debian-correct installation
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:25:23PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: :I've never used sudo. Whenever I need to do something as root, I use :su. What's the difference? Is one better/more secure than the other? I find that if I use su for an X application I need to meddle with my display security (xhost +localhost or somesuch), where as sudo does the right thing. sudo is more secure in a multi-administrator setting. It logs usage so you can see who issued what command as whom. You can tune permissions so that certain users or groups are allow or dissallowed commands. And it's revocable, you never have to give out the reall root password (users authenticate with their regular password), so if you need to revoke privilege you don't need to change the root password, also people cant leave the root password taped to the monitor, because they don't know it. -Jon
Re: star office debian-correct installation
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:10:40AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: :That is a topic of much debate. In general, I fall on the sudo is evil :side of the fence, but the basic arguments are: snip :anti-sudo: It allows you to give limited root access to certain users :without requiring that they know the root password. This allows an :attacker to obtain elevated privileges on the machine by discovering :only a user password instead of requiring that they find both a user :password and the root password. obviously I'm on the other side of this most religious debate :) First, I've seen alot of interesting (and just plain dumb too) ways of breaking into Un*x boxen, but never this one. More importantly, if someone gets a local user there's a very high likelyhood they can force root easily from there. My security policy is based on the presumption that any local account equates to root. If I was cracking a box and had a choice beween a local root exploit and using sudo, I'd take the sploit as sudo does logging which I'd then need to go erase. Like wise, if you don't trust a user with full root access, for the love of $DIETY don't give them sudo. I'm sure even if you restricted the commands to /bin/true someone could find a way to root. In practice the people who have sudo also have root and we use sudo mostly to leave an audit trail. -jon
star office debian-correct installation
When I last checked Star Office was not a package in the stable distribution. For our small school, which I am about to switch from NT to Linux, Star Office appears to be the answer to our need for a bundle of stable office programs. We mainly need a smooth switchover from MS Word, Excel and Internet Explorer. Is there anything special in the Star Office install process that will conflict with debian package management? I have been very pleased with package management with debian. It has made my life easier and my system more sane. Any references for Debian Star Office installs? Thanks for previous help from list. Joe Golden The Stevens School _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: star office debian-correct installation
--- joe golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I last checked Star Office was not a package in the stable distribution. For our small school, which I am about to switch from NT to Linux, Star Office appears to be the answer to our need for a bundle of stable office programs. We mainly need a smooth switchover from MS Word, Excel and Internet Explorer. Is there anything special in the Star Office install process that will conflict with debian package management? I have been very pleased with package management with debian. It has made my life easier and my system more sane. Any references for Debian Star Office installs? Thanks for previous help from list. Joe Golden The Stevens School _ Hi, The Star Office binary installer from Sun does a very nice job as a source installer. I have not yet tried to alien it so it can be recognized by the dpkg package system but it installs on a debian system w/o problems. The only thing that I wish it would do is to make a default entry in each users home directory for a system-wide install (installed as root). Right now for a system-wide install each user must install it as well choosing an option that does a minimal user install referencing the system-wide install. P.S. You might want to change your email website. Since MickeySloth (micros*ft) bought the service it has some rather icky riders in the end-user aggreement (as in anything sent thru the service becomes the intellectual property of MS). I've been fairly happy w/ linuxfreemail.com . It doesn't have all the nicer features of hotmail, but it is a good service that is almost always up (now that MS has switched from BSD servers to Win2K w/ IIS 5.0 the reliablity of the service is somewhat lacking IMHO. = Regards- Tim Stetson Whiskey Sour Nuhn O. Yobiznez Licq # 14373626 Why?.Why not?..Why not try? The rule of an inquisitive mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: star office debian-correct installation
oppurtunity could you mention wich commands to follow installing staroffice for debian? That is that I wasnot able to find a convention for installing non-debian software. Reading dutch manual bij Bezemer. www.dddi.nl (there is a part in english). Thanks in advance Frans Schreuder - Original Message - From: Nuhn Yobiznez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: joe golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Re: star office debian-correct installation --- joe golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I last checked Star Office was not a package in the stable distribution. For our small school, which I am about to switch from NT to Linux, Star Office appears to be the answer to our need for a bundle of stable office programs. We mainly need a smooth switchover from MS Word, Excel and Internet Explorer. Is there anything special in the Star Office install process that will conflict with debian package management? I have been very pleased with package management with debian. It has made my life easier and my system more sane. Any references for Debian Star Office installs? Thanks for previous help from list. Joe Golden The Stevens School _ Hi, The Star Office binary installer from Sun does a very nice job as a source installer. I have not yet tried to alien it so it can be recognized by the dpkg package system but it installs on a debian system w/o problems. The only thing that I wish it would do is to make a default entry in each users home directory for a system-wide install (installed as root). Right now for a system-wide install each user must install it as well choosing an option that does a minimal user install referencing the system-wide install. P.S. You might want to change your email website. Since MickeySloth (micros*ft) bought the service it has some rather icky riders in the end-user aggreement (as in anything sent thru the service becomes the intellectual property of MS). I've been fairly happy w/ linuxfreemail.com . It doesn't have all the nicer features of hotmail, but it is a good service that is almost always up (now that MS has switched from BSD servers to Win2K w/ IIS 5.0 the reliablity of the service is somewhat lacking IMHO. = Regards- Tim Stetson Whiskey Sour Nuhn O. Yobiznez Licq # 14373626 Why?.Why not?..Why not try? The rule of an inquisitive mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: star office debian-correct installation
On 06/10/01 21:18:58 +0200, Frans Schreuder wrote: oppurtunity could you mention wich commands to follow installing staroffice for debian? That is that I wasnot able to find a convention for installing non-debian software. Reading dutch manual bij Bezemer. www.dddi.nl (there is a part in english). I haven't installed StarOffice in awhile, but from what I remember, you just untar it to some place under /usr/local and run the installation binary (can't remember what it's called off hand) with the - (or /, or \ -- again memory fails) net option. After the install, each user on the system runs the setup to install the minimal files/directories under their home directories. I'll go ahead and do it again and see what happens. Good Luck! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: star office debian-correct installation
--- Frans Schreuder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oppurtunity could you mention wich commands to follow installing staroffice for debian? That is that I wasnot able to find a convention for installing non-debian software. Reading dutch manual bij Bezemer. www.dddi.nl (there is a part in english). Thanks in advance Frans Schreuder If you untar the downloaded package from Sun it should only be the binary installer (as I remember). Installing from promt should be: system:so-linux-x86.xx.bin or system:./so-linux.x86.x.bin This will start a GUI installer.Just follow the prompts. There is a dutch version too. = Regards- Tim Stetson Whiskey Sour Nuhn O. Yobiznez Licq # 14373626 Why?.Why not?..Why not try? The rule of an inquisitive mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: star office debian-correct installation
On 06/10/01 21:47:41 +0200, Frans Schreuder wrote: [..] But your install 'sequence' doesn't ring a bell ;-) ?espesially? (memory?) the 'net'-option. I have the executable. That I my knowledge ends. [..] I'm downloading it right now. It looks to be a little different from what I remember. The file has a .bin extension instead of .tgz. Once the transfer is complete, I'll install and let you know. The option to install StarOffice as a network installation is to run the so-whatever.bin file with the /net option. I pulled this info from the following location: http://pcquest.ciol.com/content/linux/100080101.asp Notice the have it installed under /opt, so you might consider /usr/local instead. I don't remember what each user must run afterwards, but I'll fin out in 10 minutes (that's how much time is left for the download). Are you unable to install it at all, or are you just looking for some advice on how it should be installed? I've CCd the list to keep all others reading the thread informed. -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: star office debian-correct installation
On 06/10/01 13:16:15 -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: On 06/10/01 21:47:41 +0200, Frans Schreuder wrote: [..] But your install 'sequence' doesn't ring a bell ;-) ?espesially? (memory?) the 'net'-option. I have the executable. That I my knowledge ends. [..] Okay, just installed SO 5.2. I made the file so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin executable with chmod, then I executed it (as root) like so: # ./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin /net This started the installation program I put it in /usr/local/bin/soffice52. After the installation finished, I then logged in as an unpriviledged user, and ran: $ /usr/local/bin/soffice52/program/setup which then installed the necessary files for me as a normal user (about 1.6 MB). Then to run StarOffice, you would then run ~/office52/soffice. You might want to add ~/office52 to your path. You may need to log in as root, startx, then run the main SO installation before running the user installation. Also, this installation occured on a system running woody, and I don't have java installed so I don't have java support in SO. Hope this helps. If you have any questions, I hope I can answer them. ;-) -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: star office debian-correct installation
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: :This started the installation program I put it in :/usr/local/bin/soffice52. After the installation finished, I then :logged in as an unpriviledged user, and ran: : :$ /usr/local/bin/soffice52/program/setup AFAIR, if you run soffice as a regular user it will so the setup thing (and then exit so you must run soffice again) :Then to run StarOffice, you would then run ~/office52/soffice. You :might want to add ~/office52 to your path. On my network install I symlinked /usr/local/Office5.2/program/soffice to /usr/local/bin/soffice, this works fine and is much simple. In fact I didn't realize I had a ~/office52/soffice, untill you pointed that out. :You may need to log in as root, startx, then run the main SO :installation before running the user installation. You don't need to be root, using sudo is fine. If you don't know what sudo is, install it and read the man page then ask here, it's *very* useful. :Hope this helps. If you have any questions, I hope I can answer them. Wow, you really went the extra mile on this one, much respect. -Jon
Re: star office debian-correct installation
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, joe golden wrote: When I last checked Star Office was not a package in the stable distribution. waiting is. There have been threats to package OpenOffice for some time now. It won't go into stable for quite a while after that though. For our small school, which I am about to switch from NT to Linux, Star Office appears to be the answer to our need for a bundle of stable office programs. We mainly need a smooth switchover from MS Word, Excel and Internet Explorer. Make sure to look in the README as to how to do a net install... Is there anything special in the Star Office install process that will conflict with debian package management? I have been very pleased with package management with debian. It has made my life easier and my system more sane. Any references for Debian Star Office installs? No need for references other than the README on the SO CD. It does the trick flawlessly. Thanks for previous help from list. Joe Golden The Stevens School _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Galt's sci-fi paradox: Stormtroopers versus Redshirts to the death. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Bases de dtos con Star office 5.2
Hola. Instalé StarOffice 5.2 que vine con la Citius. Me dió un mensaje que no encontraba Adabas por lo q no tengo Base de datos. ¿Dónde puedo conseguir una para Star Office? Un saludo -- __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ Nº 31089968 No es oro todo lo que reluce ni toda la gente errante anda perdida... J.R.R. Tolkien El Señor de los Anillos __
Re: Bases de dtos con Star office 5.2
Aurelio Díaz-Ufano wrote: Hola. Instalé StarOffice 5.2 que vine con la Citius. Me dió un mensaje que no encontraba Adabas por lo q no tengo Base de datos. ¿Dónde puedo conseguir una para Star Office? Un saludo No sé como instalaste StarOffice. Si lo obtuviste del sitio web, entonces tienes que regresar al mismo y bajar el binario de adabas. Está junto a los demas binarios de staroffice en la opción de bajarlo en partes. Si lo obtuviste de otra manera, entonces verifica si se encuentra en el CD de donde lo instalaste; sino, tienes que ir al sitio de staroffice y registrarte como si fueras a bajar todo. -- Linux User #98419 -o)| Violence is the last refuge of the http://counter.li.org /\| incompetent. - Isaac Asimov / ICQ 94335020 _\_v | Foundation Si quieres ayudarme, ponme de| referencia en www.puntosclub.com | _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Normal usr can not runn Star Office 5.2 with debian potato..
Hi, I now faced another problem with star office 5.2; before in slackware I can install it using the /net opetion and install for each user separately. Now I can not do that , no matter what I tried, it still gives the message Aborted after running for a while . The installation is okay both the system, and user, but only root can run, not normal user. Evev I tried to install not using /net, say log in as normal user , run installer ; but this user can not run, only root can run. I think it is because of the wrong settings in file permission or something, but I check everything seems to be normal. In slack, it is fine. Any one please help.! thanks = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!
Re: Normal usr can not runn Star Office 5.2 with debian potato..
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Steve Kieu wrote: Hi, I now faced another problem with star office 5.2; before in slackware I can install it using the /net opetion and install for each user separately. Now I can not do that , no matter what I tried, it still gives the message Aborted after running for a while . check your limits! (ulimit -a) SO5.2 is a memory hog, a pig! if the normal user doesn't have enough limits, SO will abort! []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
Re: 2.4.3 + X 4.0.2 + star office = dead box
Hi, Try running an xosview and watching your usage creep up. If you're really desperate to use StarOffice, try adding an extra swapfile as described in mkswap(8) and swapon(8). Same problem for me. I only have 8Mb memory and 30Mb swap. vmstat shows the swapping (very!) slowly increasing, with heavy disk activity. X applications run relatively fast, so it seems to come from StarOffice. I wonder why the entire swapping space is not exploited faster. Probably, this is exactly the problem with expcessive paging - but I'm certainly not a specialist. Gerd
Re: 2.4.3 + X 4.0.2 + star office = dead box
Gerd Bürger wrote: Hi, Try running an xosview and watching your usage creep up. If you're really desperate to use StarOffice, try adding an extra swapfile as described in mkswap(8) and swapon(8). Same problem for me. I only have 8Mb memory and 30Mb swap. vmstat shows the swapping (very!) slowly increasing, with heavy disk activity. X applications run relatively fast, so it seems to come from StarOffice. staroffice starts slowly on any machine, I have 1GHz pentium and 128MB RAM and it still takes much longer to start staroffice then all other apps (only netscape comes close). I think it's because of disk traffic, I use gkrellm to watch the swap, disks, load and cpu load does not go very high, it's mostly the disk, sometime swap (depending on how much memory was already used). kernel 2.4.2 (I think) has some VM problems, it is encouraged to use -ac patch (at least 18?), I had some problems - when netscape is running for a long time it takes up almost all the memory, when I start something memory intensive at that point the load on machine goes high (1000% and the mouse pointer is almost not moving, the window do not change fucos in an HOUR or more!), the machine is basically unusable (not sure if it would come back to its senses, I never waited more then few hours). But I guess this was fixed in 2.4.3 erik
The reason for Star Office 5.2 breakage
(Posted on both lists since there's active discussion on both lists concerning this problem.) Five minutes ago I found the package that breaks Star Office the way that has been described on numerous emails. The package Star Office has problems with is sharefont. When sharefont 0.10-9 is installed, Star Office gives a very informative message stating that an unrecoverable error has happened every time I try to create a new document or open an existing one. apt-get remove sharefont solved the problem. Since I my knowledge on X fonts can quite accurately described as none, I wouldnät count on me to find much more information about the problem. I hope someone more competent with this same problem will look at the package and file a bug report with more information than that I could give. Suonpää...
Re: Star Office + Unstable
I looked at the strace-output and found many errors like this (but I can't interpret them): fstat64(0x1c,0xbfff7534) shmat(28,0x2,0x2,ptrace: umoven: Input/output error) Only a hint;-( or is this normal? -- \ __ Dieter Faulbaum o/ \ \__,\ \, \
Re: Star Office + Unstable
Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: :- Rainer == Rainer Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:32:44AM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote: Does anybody else has this problem? yep, we are running three Sid Boxes here having exactly the same problems since a couple of days. Currently trying to determine what causes this behaviour :-( Regards, Rainer I can state that this problem exists at least since Friday 30 March; maybe there was a libc upgrade past week ? Same problem here. Has anyone found anything out yet?
Star Office + Unstable
hi I am looking at a reproducable StarOffice failure to open anything but itself. (window comes, any further action leads to a crash (it closes itself because of misbehaviour) I am using SID up to date (15 minutes ago). Does anybody else has this problem? Thank you for the information :) Ciao, mattHias -- __ _ __ * /\_/\ \ \_/ \_/ / * Matthias Wieser * / \ \ /* ICQ#: 12597522 * / /\_/\ \ \_/^\_/ *[EMAIL PROTECTED] * WW WW *
Re: Star Office + Unstable
Hi, On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:32:44AM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote: Does anybody else has this problem? yep, we are running three Sid Boxes here having exactly the same problems since a couple of days. Currently trying to determine what causes this behaviour :-( Regards, Rainer
Re: Star Office + Unstable
:- Rainer == Rainer Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:32:44AM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote: Does anybody else has this problem? yep, we are running three Sid Boxes here having exactly the same problems since a couple of days. Currently trying to determine what causes this behaviour :-( Regards, Rainer I can state that this problem exists at least since Friday 30 March; maybe there was a libc upgrade past week ? -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | ik5pvx | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.dyndns.org Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.4.2 #1 Sat Mar 10 21:01:03 CET 2001 i686 unknown
Re: 2.4.3 + X 4.0.2 + star office = dead box
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 12:12:26PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not quite sure who to blame on this one, x? kernel? star office? whenever I start up star office installer, machine bombs. if I export my display from remote host - troubled box and run star office from remote host, troubled box bombs. I bet you're running out of memory. StarOffice is really a hog. Try running an xosview and watching your usage creep up. If you're really desperate to use StarOffice, try adding an extra swapfile as described in mkswap(8) and swapon(8). Rob -- Why you say you no bunny rabbit when you have little powder-puff tail? -- The Tasmanian Devil
Star Office + XFree 4 + S3 Savage
This is more of an informational post than anything. I have a brand new shiny toshiba tecra 8100. This laptop uses S3's savage video chipset. I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out why sun's star office crashes when I click anything. Symptoms: Star Office locks up X after the first mouse click. Solution: Enable ShadowFB, or in the device section for your video card, Section Device Identifier Savage 3D Driver savage Option ShadowFB on EndSection Now, I don't know if it's fixed because the fb is on, or if accel is off. Hw Accel is turned OFF when you enable shadowfb. This seems to have fixed my freeze problems with X. Now, hopefully one of the search engines finds this post sooner or later so some other geek can get their favorite un*x office suite running. Cheers. Jeff Levy Software Design Meta-Craft Creations
2.4.3 + X 4.0.2 + star office = dead box
not quite sure who to blame on this one, x? kernel? star office? whenever I start up star office installer, machine bombs. if I export my display from remote host - troubled box and run star office from remote host, troubled box bombs. it's not my window manager, i've tried three. same effect. narrows it down, I'd think to kernel or X. does anyone in the list have an idea of what options inside the kernel I might try checking? does anyone think this might be an X problem? when troubleshooting, I've learned to look suspiciuosly at the last software changed on a system, conflicts might be stemming from that change. And on this box, the only change is the kernel. I thought it might be the framebuffer options I compiled in. Anyone concur? Scratching my head. thanks in advance for any ideas. Jeff Levy Software Design Meta-Craft Creations
Re: 2.4.3 + X 4.0.2 + star office = dead box
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not quite sure who to blame on this one, x? kernel? star office? whenever I start up star office installer, machine bombs. make sure the binary your running is a valid binary, id say copy it to another machine and try to run it and see if it works ok. if the binary is curropted in the wrong way i can see how it could trash a system, especially if your running as root to install it(which is the usual way to do a networked install). another thing to check is how much ram you have, the installer may not work well if you have 16MB of ram or something(most of my systems have 256MB or more ..). star office seems to be a pretty generic X app(e.g. it doesnt use DGA or use opengl or whatever..) so its very odd that it could take down your machine. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dutch speller in Engelsh Star-Office
Dear Debian community. I run StarOffice 5.2 (English) on a Debian 2.2 configuration. It works reasonably. One thing I have not been able to do is install additional spell language files. I would like to use Dutch, I am able to select 'Dutch', but no word gets marked 'bad', no matter what I do. I have found a directory with what appear to be spelling files, but not seperate files for Dutch language for instance. French does work.. Documentation and help files do indicate that it should be possible, but not how. If anyone here has a suggestion... Thanks a lot. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firing up DocBook (was Re: Star Office)
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote: What LaTeX buys is the ability to create rightly formatted ASCII output including pagination, ToC, index, etc. Sorry to come in so late on the conversation, but how is this done? I had a request to convert my resumé to text recently (I keep it as a TeX file, but it would be easy to change it to LaTeX). It would have been nice to have known about an automated tool to do this -- I had to manually remove all the formatting. Thanks, Chris -- Got jag? http://www.tribsoft.com
Re: Authoring tools (was Re: Star Office)
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 09:43:15PM -0800, Krzys Majewski wrote: Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: lyx requires non-free software, thats a showstopper. It does? Which? [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# grep non-free /etc/apt/sources.list [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# apt-get install lyx Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: lyx: Depends: libforms0.89 but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# apt-cache show lyx | grep ^Sec Section: contrib/text [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# (on box with non-free in sources.list) [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ apt-cache show libforms0.89| grep ^Section Section: non-free/libs [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpyFKMHibl6M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Authoring tools (was Re: Star Office)
On 24 Mar 2001, Krzys Majewski wrote: Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: lyx requires non-free software, thats a showstopper. It does? Which? It requires the non-free XForms library. (but the lyx developers are working on this - see [1] for more information). -chris cu Adrian [1] http://www.devel.lyx.org/guii.php3 -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
Re: Star Office
On 24-Mar-2001 Ethan Benson wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 10:53:41AM +, Keith O'Connell wrote: Hi, I need to be able to read, and compose MS compatible documents. I have pretty much decided that the path of least resistance for me will be Star Office. I cannot find it in the 2.2r2 distribution. Is it in there but I am too blind to see? If not is it available in deb format somewhere, and if so what would be the correct location to add to my sources.list to keep current? StarOffice is non-free and not packaged, so you will have to install it into /usr/local via a tarball. eventually OpenOffice will be packaged but i think its still in a rather broken state since its StarOffice + `sanitation' of patented/stol^H^H^H^Hlicenced code. Not only that, but it also manages to be incredibly more bloated than SOffice 5.2 itself, and doesn't include any printing support (they're trying to implement a free alternative to SO 5.2's old printing driver). However, I must admit that it is very good looking - supports my xfstt-supplied TT fonts et al. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ -- Carlos Laviola - ICQ 55799523 pub 1024D/3516D372 2000-06-05 Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 3BE1 6591 C78C 2AA4 31DD AEEF 6406 0227 3516 D372 pgpnzglU0T1VR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:51:28 -0300 (BRT) Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: StarOffice is non-free and not packaged, so you will have to install it into /usr/local via a tarball. eventually OpenOffice will be packaged but i think its still in a rather broken state since its StarOffice + `sanitation' of patented/stol^H^H^H^Hlicenced code. Not only that, but it also manages to be incredibly more bloated than SOffice 5.2 itself, and doesn't include any printing support (they're trying to implement a free alternative to SO 5.2's old printing driver). However, I must admit that it is very good looking - supports my xfstt-supplied TT fonts et al. ...And Staroffice on Sun's site is definitively non-free at least for non-english speakers, as they can't download it anymore but need to pay +9 $ ordering the CD. Of course, they tell you so _after_ registering. -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit .
Re: Star Office
On 25-Mar-2001 Christoph Simon wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:51:28 -0300 (BRT) Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: StarOffice is non-free and not packaged, so you will have to install it into /usr/local via a tarball. eventually OpenOffice will be packaged but i think its still in a rather broken state since its StarOffice + `sanitation' of patented/stol^H^H^H^Hlicenced code. Not only that, but it also manages to be incredibly more bloated than SOffice 5.2 itself, and doesn't include any printing support (they're trying to implement a free alternative to SO 5.2's old printing driver). However, I must admit that it is very good looking - supports my xfstt-supplied TT fonts et al. ...And Staroffice on Sun's site is definitively non-free at least for non-english speakers, as they can't download it anymore but need to pay +9 $ ordering the CD. Of course, they tell you so _after_ registering. Are you sure? I mean, I'm downloading it right now. (big 95 mb d/l! thank god i have cable.) -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit . vi rules. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Carlos Laviola - ICQ 55799523 pub 1024D/3516D372 2000-06-05 Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 3BE1 6591 C78C 2AA4 31DD AEEF 6406 0227 3516 D372 pgpam7d7W0BLV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office
non-english speakers, as they can't download it anymore but need to pay +9 $ ordering the CD. Of course, they tell you so _after_ registering. Are you sure? I mean, I'm downloading it right now. (big 95 mb d/l! thank god i have cable.) Yes I was about to download it yesterday. It is possible to download it. Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.ddts.net Powered by ddt dynamic DNS Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?)
Re: Star Office
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:00:09 -0300 (BRT) Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure? I mean, I'm downloading it right now. (big 95 mb d/l! thank god i have cable.) I am sure, but maybe I did it too often and they blocked my IP. -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit .
Re: Star Office
I am sure, but maybe I did it too often and they blocked my IP. Thats a posibility since they dont want people to redistribute their software.. Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.ddts.net Powered by ddt dynamic DNS Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?)
Re: Star Office
On Sunday 25 March 2001 10:22, Ethan Benson wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 05:13:47PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: What version of abiword are you using? I'm running 0.7 under unstable/testing, and it's definitely tolerable for light use. It's mostly what I pull out to do something that involves short text and hardcopy -- a letter, say. Version: 0.7.13-0.2 Version: 0.7.12-0.ximian.2 for the absolute lightest of work (ie plain text) its fine, but if all your doing is plain text nedit is far more reliable. i would probably be running unstable on that box if i had faster internet connection, atm i just don't fancy the idea of a 20MB download a day or a 60MB download a week. i would LOVE to get rid of this ximian crap though. I've used DocBook for a couple of projects, and prefer LaTeX for generalized typeset output myself as well. For Real Work they're the Right Tools, IMO. except for someone who isn't interested in learning them, latex is fine for me, but not for the user of the computer in question. I use abiword for ALL of my non-mail writing. I do freelance writing (that's semi-real work) and it has rarely failed me on deadlines. Yesterday was an exception: my Slot A played possum on me. Latex and Docbook? Compared to them, vi seems like heaven. (Offhand I don't even know what command to use to fire up docbook.)
firing up DocBook (was Re: Star Office)
on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:12:10AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sunday 25 March 2001 10:22, Ethan Benson wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 05:13:47PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: I've used DocBook for a couple of projects, and prefer LaTeX for generalized typeset output myself as well. For Real Work they're the Right Tools, IMO. except for someone who isn't interested in learning them, latex is fine for me, but not for the user of the computer in question. I use abiword for ALL of my non-mail writing. I do freelance writing (that's semi-real work) and it has rarely failed me on deadlines. Yesterday was an exception: my Slot A played possum on me. Latex and Docbook? Compared to them, vi seems like heaven. (Offhand I don't even know what command to use to fire up docbook.) Um. 'vi' works, though emacs/xemacs is probably more powerful. DocBook is an SGML standard, not an editor. The best support is arguably sgml-tools under emacsen. Despite the wealth of tagging syntax, it's actually damned near trivial to get started, at least for someone who's familiar with tag-markup syntax -- HTML is a good starter, LaTeX or *roff users will comprehend. The tidying and prettifying tools under DocBook are pretty good. I find LaTeX more readable -- the tagging is less verbose and certain constructs, such as paragraphs, are imputed from whitespace -- but DocBook itself is a reasonably workable convention. Generating various output formats -- PS, PDF, HTML, and RTF are natively supported -- is straightforward. What LaTeX buys is the ability to create rightly formatted ASCII output including pagination, ToC, index, etc. DocBook doesn't currently support this, the workaround is to intermediate through a text-mode browser such as lynx or w3m. Pagination can be added through a tool such as 'pr', but correlation between pages and ToC isn't maintained. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpYpbXqHoQDL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office
on Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 08:51:28AM -0300, Carlos Laviola ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 24-Mar-2001 Ethan Benson wrote: StarOffice is non-free and not packaged, so you will have to install it into /usr/local via a tarball. eventually OpenOffice will be packaged but i think its still in a rather broken state since its StarOffice + `sanitation' of patented/stol^H^H^H^Hlicenced code. Not only that, but it also manages to be incredibly more bloated than SOffice 5.2 itself, and doesn't include any printing support (they're trying to implement a free alternative to SO 5.2's old printing driver). However, I must admit that it is very good looking - supports my xfstt-supplied TT fonts et al. SO5.2 supports TT under xfstt. I tried installing OO once, failed miserably. The raw install is some 60-80 MB. The total build environment is something like 600 MB -- more free space than my aging desktop box has, and given my current cashflow, is likely to have for some time. Had an exchange with Brian Behlendorf over this. The code is _very_ pre-beta (it fails to install properly under many conditions), and should be prominantly advertised as such. If individuals (or companies) want to devote effort to improving it, great. But don't represent the state as anything other. This was a major failing of the Mozilla project. Speaking of which, Joel Sposky's comments at http://joel.editthispage.com/ on the Mozilla project are interesting. Brian's also written and spoken intelligently on what's required for a successful free software project. He's certainly got props from his work on Apache. I can only hope Collab will manage OO successfully. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpLnds5KiJCS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Star Office
Hi, I need to be able to read, and compose MS compatible documents. I have pretty much decided that the path of least resistance for me will be Star Office. I cannot find it in the 2.2r2 distribution. Is it in there but I am too blind to see? If not is it available in deb format somewhere, and if so what would be the correct location to add to my sources.list to keep current? Thanks. Keith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith O'Connell)
Re: Star Office
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 10:53:41AM +, Keith O'Connell wrote: Hi, I need to be able to read, and compose MS compatible documents. I have pretty much decided that the path of least resistance for me will be Star Office. I cannot find it in the 2.2r2 distribution. Is it in there but I am too blind to see? If not is it available in deb format somewhere, and if so what would be the correct location to add to my sources.list to keep current? StarOffice is non-free and not packaged, so you will have to install it into /usr/local via a tarball. eventually OpenOffice will be packaged but i think its still in a rather broken state since its StarOffice + `sanitation' of patented/stol^H^H^H^Hlicenced code. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpHz9Kj6if1P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office
I cannot find it in the 2.2r2 distribution. Is it in there but I am too blind to see? If not is it available in deb format somewhere, and if so what would be the correct location to add to my sources.list to keep current? I have a special Debian distribution that contains Staroffice 5.2. http://www.linuxland.de/katalog/01_linuxdistri_bs/debian/liste It's not in .deb format, it's a self-extracting package. Dunno if it's debianized in any way. It's probably the same you can download for free, so this doesnt help much. Robert
Re: Star Office
on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 10:53:41AM +, Keith O'Connell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, I need to be able to read, and compose MS compatible documents. I have pretty much decided that the path of least resistance for me will be Star Office. I cannot find it in the 2.2r2 distribution. Is it in there but I am too blind to see? If not is it available in deb format somewhere, and if so what would be the correct location to add to my sources.list to keep current? StarOffice, that bloated stuck pig of an office suite, isn't packaged. It probably offers the best compatibility with MS file formats, however. Define MS Compatible. Ted and AbiWord will create and edit RTF documents. MS Word nominally works with HTML, though the HTML it produces defies description, not to mention definition as HTML. You can use 'tidy' plus a special mode to rationalize MSWord HTML, though in my experience, the input breaks the rationalizer as often as not. And, rumors to the contrary notwithstanding, MSFT will read text files. Tools such as mswordview and catdoc will render MS Word files to text, with varying degrees of accuracy dependin on fast save features used by the author (but can be used to reveal potentially interesting information to you). It's always amusing to send back an ASCII-rendered document to someone who agonizes over every last physical detail of layout I'd argue that the level of compatibility depends on how obsequious you need to be to the recipients. For clients, they may set the rules. For vendors, you do. For other collaborators, pecking order rules. Or you can just be Yet Another Prick For Open Standards like me. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpbZg3Q5b5VJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:33:54PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: StarOffice, that bloated stuck pig of an office suite, isn't packaged. It probably offers the best compatibility with MS file formats, however. any other suggestions? abiword is unusably buggy in potato (and helix/ximian) kword in the unofficial potato repository is also quite buggy (it makes most of the text invisible randomly when your typing). ted might be ok, i haven't done much testing yet. but its rather limited and a bit klunky. in my case i don't give a damn about MS compatiblity but i do need to find something that provides the basic features a self respecting word processor should provide, and most importantly it has to be usable, abiword and kword are not. (i doubt staroffice would be either given this box is a 166 pentium with only 96MB of ram, openoffice barely compiles from what i hear and would not be any lighter) note that this isn't for me, if i needed such i may very well use latex or something, but that is not an option in this case. Or you can just be Yet Another Prick For Open Standards like me. yeah! -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpojlcKPZUUV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:53:51PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: abiword is unusably buggy in potato (and helix/ximian) kword in the unofficial potato repository is also quite buggy (it makes most of the text invisible randomly when your typing). ted might be ok, i haven't done much testing yet. but its rather limited and a bit klunky. Abiword and kword are both crap currently. I'm sure they'll develop into fine tools, but I wouldn't be relying on them just yet. Personally, I do all of my work in either LaTeX or DocBook. LaTeX looks better overall, and is easier to customize IMO, but DocBook offers quite a few easy conversions and the XML DTD is probably going to be a major force in open standards. If you want WYSIWYM (What You See Is What You Mean), use LyX. Otherwise, keep hunting for WYSIAYG (read... All You Get) tools. Or you can just be Yet Another Prick For Open Standards like me. Amen. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com
Re: Star Office
on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 07:09:09PM -0500, Michael Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:53:51PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: abiword is unusably buggy in potato (and helix/ximian) kword in the unofficial potato repository is also quite buggy (it makes most of the text invisible randomly when your typing). ted might be ok, i haven't done much testing yet. but its rather limited and a bit klunky. Abiword and kword are both crap currently. I'm sure they'll develop into fine tools, but I wouldn't be relying on them just yet. What version of abiword are you using? I'm running 0.7 under unstable/testing, and it's definitely tolerable for light use. It's mostly what I pull out to do something that involves short text and hardcopy -- a letter, say. Version: 0.7.13-0.2 Personally, I do all of my work in either LaTeX or DocBook. LaTeX looks better overall, and is easier to customize IMO, but DocBook offers quite a few easy conversions and the XML DTD is probably going to be a major force in open standards. If you want WYSIWYM (What You See Is What You Mean), use LyX. Otherwise, keep hunting for WYSIAYG (read... All You Get) tools. I've used DocBook for a couple of projects, and prefer LaTeX for generalized typeset output myself as well. For Real Work they're the Right Tools, IMO. Or you can just be Yet Another Prick For Open Standards like me. Amen. /me grins -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpheN056999f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Star Office
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 05:13:47PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: What version of abiword are you using? I'm running 0.7 under unstable/testing, and it's definitely tolerable for light use. It's mostly what I pull out to do something that involves short text and hardcopy -- a letter, say. Version: 0.7.13-0.2 Version: 0.7.12-0.ximian.2 for the absolute lightest of work (ie plain text) its fine, but if all your doing is plain text nedit is far more reliable. i would probably be running unstable on that box if i had faster internet connection, atm i just don't fancy the idea of a 20MB download a day or a 60MB download a week. i would LOVE to get rid of this ximian crap though. I've used DocBook for a couple of projects, and prefer LaTeX for generalized typeset output myself as well. For Real Work they're the Right Tools, IMO. except for someone who isn't interested in learning them, latex is fine for me, but not for the user of the computer in question. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpjXOY2Xn5Bk.pgp Description: PGP signature
