Re: Student filter breaking Debian installs

2009-06-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 16:55:39 +0100, Berni Elbourn wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote:

[...]

Is it possible that your
 filtering/proxy setup returns some notification text (instead of a 404
 error) if a non-existing or blocked file is requested from the web?

[...]

 wget 
 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2
 
 Oh boy...a whole pile of html comes back telling the story of why
 that page is blocked.

You can check the status that is given in the header when this page is
served by running wget -S  If the status is HTTP/1.1 200 OK then
it is not too surprising that apt thinks it has received a valid file.

Maybe your administrator is willing to change the filtering setup such
that it serves the notification page with an error status, for example
403 Forbidden; that might be enough to make apt ignore the file.

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Student filter breaking Debian installs

2009-06-23 Thread Berni Elbourn

Hi,

Our nice network chappie has opened restriction on .gpg, .gz .bz2  .deb 
and files without . but something is is still not working...


Here's a log of an aptitude update:

94% [6 Translation-en_GB bzip2 0] [Connecting to ftp.uk.debian.org 
(83.142.228.bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
Ign http://ftp.uk.debian.org lenny/main Translation-en_GB 

63% [7 Translation-en_GB bzip2 0] [Connecting to ftp.uk.debian.org 
(83.142.228.bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.


And then things fall apart...repeating gets forever.

I am sorry but looking over the repository I cant find Translation-en_GB

What real file is involved here please so we can add to the filter 
exceptions?


Are there any others we should check?

ta

Berni


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Re: Student filter breaking Debian installs

2009-06-23 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Berni Elbourn wrote:
 Our nice network chappie has opened restriction on .gpg, .gz .bz2  .deb
 and files without . but something is is still not working...

I think it would help if you could be more specific about what was done
and how you connect to the internet.

 What real file is involved here please so we can add to the filter
 exceptions?

What kind of filter? Proxy? Whatever?

Johannes


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Re: Student filter breaking Debian installs

2009-06-23 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 08:36:32 +0100, Berni Elbourn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Our nice network chappie has opened restriction on .gpg, .gz .bz2
 .deb and files without . but something is is still not working...
 
 Here's a log of an aptitude update:
 
 94% [6 Translation-en_GB bzip2 0] [Connecting to ftp.uk.debian.org
 (83.142.228.bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
 Ign http://ftp.uk.debian.org lenny/main Translation-en_GB
 
 63% [7 Translation-en_GB bzip2 0] [Connecting to ftp.uk.debian.org
 (83.142.228.bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
 
 And then things fall apart...repeating gets forever.
 
 I am sorry but looking over the repository I cant find Translation-en_GB


 What real file is involved here please so we can add to the filter
 exceptions?

As far as I understand it, apt(itude) should realize that there are no
Translation-en_GB.* files in the main/i18n directory and therefore it
should ignore the translation and move on. Is it possible that your
filtering/proxy setup returns some notification text (instead of a 404
error) if a non-existing or blocked file is requested from the web? I
could see how that might confuse apt. The messages that you posted
suggest that apt does receive some content for the translation file and
I do not think that this content comes from the Debian server.

 Are there any others we should check?

What happens if you try to retrieve the non-existing translation file
with wget?

wget http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2

You should see a 404 error (not found).

(Replace http://; with ftp://; if the latter is what you have
 specified in your sources.list.)

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Re: Student filter breaking Debian installs

2009-06-23 Thread Berni Elbourn

Florian Kulzer wrote:

As far as I understand it, apt(itude) should realize that there are no
Translation-en_GB.* files in the main/i18n directory and therefore it
should ignore the translation and move on. Is it possible that your
filtering/proxy setup returns some notification text (instead of a 404
error) if a non-existing or blocked file is requested from the web? I
could see how that might confuse apt. The messages that you posted
suggest that apt does receive some content for the translation file and
I do not think that this content comes from the Debian server.

What happens if you try to retrieve the non-existing translation file
with wget?

wget http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2



Oh boy...a whole pile of html comes back telling the story of why that 
page is blocked.


Good spot - thanks,

Berni


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