Re: Suggestion for list...

1997-03-21 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Jason Costomiris wrote:
 Can we get this list to set a Reply-to: header, like every other piece of
 list software I've ever used?  It's kind of a PITA to do a reply that goes
 only to the list with the current configuration.

Please read:

http://garcon.unicom.com/FAQ/reply-to-harmful.html

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Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Suggestion for list...

1997-03-21 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:

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 On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Jason Costomiris wrote:
  Can we get this list to set a Reply-to: header, like every other piece of
  list software I've ever used?  It's kind of a PITA to do a reply that goes
  only to the list with the current configuration.
 
 Please read:
 
 http://garcon.unicom.com/FAQ/reply-to-harmful.html

Ok, I've read it.  It's a bunch of bunk.  I use pine for mail.  If there's
a reply-to: header set, I get asked if I should use the reply-to: header
instead of that of the author.  I also get asked if I would like to reply
to all.

That pages drones on endlessly about reasonable mailers.  Pine is quite
reasonable, and apparently handles Reply-to: better than most mailers.  I
also noticed your message id:

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What do you know?  You're using pine too.  You should also be able to use
this feature.  If the list won't start doing it, I think I'll just start
using some formail action to do it myself.


Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key
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My employers like me, but not| and genius.  We aim to erase that line
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Re: Suggestion for list...

1997-03-21 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Jason Costomiris wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
  On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Jason Costomiris wrote:
   Can we get this list to set a Reply-to: header, like every other piece of
   list software I've ever used?  It's kind of a PITA to do a reply that goes
   only to the list with the current configuration.
  
  Please read:
  
  http://garcon.unicom.com/FAQ/reply-to-harmful.html
 
 Ok, I've read it.  It's a bunch of bunk.  I use pine for mail.  If there's
 a reply-to: header set, I get asked if I should use the reply-to: header
 instead of that of the author.  I also get asked if I would like to reply
 to all.

Not exactly. Sometimes what you call author's email address is a
non-existing one. So whatever information goes into the original Reply-To
should be preserved. Or just simply the original poster wants to be
replied to another email address.

Yes, I also use Pine, and I usually reply to all recipients (with such a
high volume its very easy to miss a message), sometimes only to the
original poster, and very few times only to the list.

 [ ... ]
 If the list won't start doing it, I think I'll just start
 using some formail action to do it myself.

I think this is a good idea.

I really believe that having no Reply-To for mailing lists is the best
default state, and users willing to change this could/should do this for
their own.

Thanks.

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Re: Suggestion for list...

1997-03-21 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:

 Yes, I also use Pine, and I usually reply to all recipients (with such a
 high volume its very easy to miss a message), sometimes only to the
 original poster, and very few times only to the list.

I guess we'll just agree to disagree about Reply-to:.

However, I wouldn't really call debian-user a high volume list.  Ever
seen what you get on inet-access in a day??

Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy
My employers like me, but not| and genius.  We aim to erase that line
enough to let me speak for them. |  --Unknown

http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom


Re: Suggestion for list...

1997-03-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
[message being sent to the list only, since that is what my
set up defaults to, mentioned to prove a point]
Jason == Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jason On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:

Santiago  Please read: http://garcon.unicom.com/FAQ/reply-to-harmful.html

Jason Ok, I've read it.  It's a bunch of bunk.  I use pine for mail.
Jason If there's a reply-to: header set, I get asked if I should use
Jason the reply-to: header instead of that of the author.  I also get
Jason asked if I would like to reply to all.

Not everybody uses pine. Why does one need such a thing? you
 should switch to a more reasonable mailer, which handles
 things nicely with out atrocities like reply-to munging (when on a
 customer sire, I do set reply to to a identity I want, and I would be
 most annoyed if the list rewrote it). (At various points, people have
 called most standars bunk, and unless you give better technical
 reasons, I am afraid I must dismiss you woth the rest)

Munging reply-to headers would, IMHO, be a gross violation of
 ettiquette, unless my reply to setting were also honored (then it
 would not just reply to the list).

Jason That pages drones on endlessly about reasonable mailers.
Jason Pine is quite reasonable, and apparently handles Reply-to:
Jason better than most mailers.  I also noticed your message id:

If you say pine is quite reasonable, it must be so.  If it
 requires reply to munging, then your standards are amazingly .. low.

Message-ID [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jason What do you know?  You're using pine too.  You should also be
Jason able to use this feature.  If the list won't start doing it, I
Jason think I'll just start using some formail action to do it
Jason myself.

Please do. Just don't ask the list to start needlessly munging
 reply to headers, just to cater to old and feature lacking mail
 readers. 

manoj,
 who uses fetchmail (IMAP), suck, ssh, diald/ppp, sendmail, mailagent,
 emacs, vm, gnus, and tm as components of a complex system to deliver
 mail/news to his screen, and carry away random noise back from his
 keyboard. 

-- 
 ...as long as there is a Legion of super-Heroes, all else can surely
 be made right. Sensor Girl
Manoj Srivastava   url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/


Suggestion for list...

1997-03-20 Thread Jason Costomiris
Can we get this list to set a Reply-to: header, like every other piece of
list software I've ever used?  It's kind of a PITA to do a reply that goes
only to the list with the current configuration.

Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy
My employers like me, but not| and genius.  We aim to erase that line
enough to let me speak for them. |  --Unknown

http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom