Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 09:09:16PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: That said, WindowMaker arguably meets all your needs -- it's keep me happy for years. The tiles take up minimal real estate, particularly if you set the Clip to autoattract icons and Autocollapse. Or you can turn off the dock and clip altogether and just leave an area of the screen free for app icons. ...Minimize to miniwindow (64x64 tile) Additionally, you can make the tile sizes much smaller if you want. http://jon.dowland.name/screens/zhafte.png -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:32:56PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Here's what I really like about E: Here's how PWM shapes up: - minimal screen real estate lost. I don't mind selecting an application by clicking the mouse first to get a menu. Minimal or no icon box. - shade/unshade windows, leaving only the window decoration bar showing. - ability to switch virctual consoles by scrolling the mouse wheel. Yep; - settings done using GUI rather than editing a config file. At present, nope. - Looks good. Debatable :) -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
Peter S Galbraith wrote: Chema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:32:56 -0500 Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PSG After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use PSG something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Try blackbox or one of its derivates. It has most of what you want; at first it can feel a lil like twm ;-), but once you have it configured is very powerful. It looked _very_ minimal in looks from the screenshots. That's why i was leaning towards openbox. But I'll give it a try! Thanks! A lot of people is speaking well about XFCE - haven't tried it yet. It's here if you want to take a look: http://www.xfce.org/index.html John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:32:56PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: } After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use } something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Sawfish. } Here's what I really like about E: } } - minimal screen real estate lost. I don't mind selecting an } application by clicking the mouse first to get a menu. Minimal or no } icon box. Themeable, and I use a pretty minimal theme (microGUI). There's at least one smaller theme (Microtene), too, and even an E-like theme (absolute-e). } - shade/unshade windows, leaving only the window decoration bar showing. Yup. } - ability to switch virctual consoles by scrolling the mouse wheel. It never occurred to me to set this up. I tried it, though, and sawfish handles it like a champ. } - settings done using GUI rather than editing a config file. Yup. A nice config GUI, too. } - Looks good. A matter of taste, but I like how it looks. } So I'm looking for something fairly unintrusive, yet with nice features. } Eye candy is good. The screenshots of openbox look good, but I don't } know if it has the features I want. I tend to be a functionalist, and I'm very into customization (of functionality/interface, not appearance). I find that sawfish suits my needs admirably. } Comments? :-) --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Here's what I really like about E: - minimal screen real estate lost. I don't mind selecting an application by clicking the mouse first to get a menu. Minimal or no icon box. - shade/unshade windows, leaving only the window decoration bar showing. - ability to switch virctual consoles by scrolling the mouse wheel. - settings done using GUI rather than editing a config file. - Looks good. So I'm looking for something fairly unintrusive, yet with nice features. Eye candy is good. The screenshots of openbox look good, but I don't know if it has the features I want. Comments? :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:32:56 -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Here's what I really like about E: - minimal screen real estate lost. I don't mind selecting an application by clicking the mouse first to get a menu. Minimal or no icon box. - shade/unshade windows, leaving only the window decoration bar showing. - ability to switch virctual consoles by scrolling the mouse wheel. - settings done using GUI rather than editing a config file. - Looks good. Fluxbox on all points except the last (I suspect the other blackbox derivatives share the same features.) The last one is highly subjective. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:32:56 -0500 Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PSG After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use PSG something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Try blackbox or one of its derivates. It has most of what you want; at first it can feel a lil like twm ;-), but once you have it configured is very powerful. Its real light, has most essential functions (plus a lot more through addons), supported by update-menus, minimal and clean interface. Gottchas: as blackbox tries to stay minimal, it comes without image support; it has pretty shading capabilities, though, and looks real nice. Also becouse of that, you need external programs to do some basic things, like having key bindings. Not all the configuration is trough GUI. But once you have it setup, you'll love it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter S Galbraith wrote: After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Here's what I really like about E: - minimal screen real estate lost. I don't mind selecting an application by clicking the mouse first to get a menu. Minimal or no icon box. - shade/unshade windows, leaving only the window decoration bar showing. - ability to switch virctual consoles by scrolling the mouse wheel. - settings done using GUI rather than editing a config file. - Looks good. Fluxbox on all points except the last (I suspect the other blackbox derivatives share the same features.) The last one is highly subjective. That's true. Okay thanks, I'll take a look. The screenshots don't look as pretty as E. :-) Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
Chema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:32:56 -0500 Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PSG After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use PSG something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Try blackbox or one of its derivates. It has most of what you want; at first it can feel a lil like twm ;-), but once you have it configured is very powerful. It looked _very_ minimal in looks from the screenshots. That's why i was leaning towards openbox. But I'll give it a try! Thanks! Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
on Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:32:56PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Intall and try a few. Launch X from console with: $ startx $( which xterm ) ...and kick off a few window managers from the terminal. That said, WindowMaker arguably meets all your needs -- it's keep me happy for years. The tiles take up minimal real estate, particularly if you set the Clip to autoattract icons and Autocollapse. Add: fast, stable, and highly configurable to keyboard operation, with minimal intrusive distractions. Here's what I really like about E: - minimal screen real estate lost. I don't mind selecting an application by clicking the mouse first to get a menu. Minimal or no icon box. Check. - shade/unshade windows, leaving only the window decoration bar showing. Check. Minimize to miniwindow (64x64 tile) - ability to switch virctual consoles by scrolling the mouse wheel. No, but altnumber will get you there, for the first 9 workspaces. Drag windows between workspaces in setting. ctrlaltleft|right also cycles. All keys are remappable. - settings done using GUI rather than editing a config file. WPrefs: http://www.windowmaker.org/features-wprefs.html ...though you can also hand-edit config files, _if you need to_. - Looks good. Again, arguably. I find it minimally distracting, but pleasent. Though it can also be dressed up. http://www.windowmaker.org/gallery-1.html http://windowmaker.org/imageview.php?cat=bigid=47 http://windowmaker.org/imageview.php?cat=bigid=40 So I'm looking for something fairly unintrusive, yet with nice features. Eye candy is good. The screenshots of openbox look good, but I don't know if it has the features I want. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Bush/Cheney '04: Four More Wars! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
