Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:10:03 +0100 Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: Anyone have a link to a good tutorial? http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers -- CK INGREDIENTS: Bleached Wheat Flour, Sugar, Salt, Water, Vegetable Oil, Soybean Lecithin, Sodium Bicarbonate, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Cyamopsis Tetragonoloba, Cellulose, Natural and Artificial Flavor (Vanilla), and Food Colors (FDC Yellow #5 Red #40) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8sifhrfhq...@mid.individual.net
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sb, 19 feb 11, 12:43:23, Paul Cartwright wrote: After I posted to the list I found http://linuxinside.blogspot.com/2008/03/debian-nvidia-drivers.html from a text-based terminal ( CTRL-ALT-F1), you run: # sgfxi -c and it runs pulls in the headers for you installs the latest NVIDIA driver from NVIDIA. I prefer apt-get install nvidia-glx ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sb, 19 feb 11, 20:10:28, Brian wrote: With NVidia the almost automatic response is to dive into the proprietry driver pool. It seems to me that unless 3D is a need (used by less than 5% of users) or the card is not supported well, you are going to be served well by the nouveau driver. It is also set up automatically with a Squeeze or Sid install so why jump through the hoops of getting a proprietry driver installed unless you have particlar obvious needs. Does this count? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Mon 21 Feb 2011 at 14:51:00 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 19 feb 11, 20:10:28, Brian wrote: With NVidia the almost automatic response is to dive into the proprietry driver pool. It seems to me that unless 3D is a need (used by less than 5% of users) or the card is not supported well, you are going to be served well by the nouveau driver. It is also set up automatically with a Squeeze or Sid install so why jump through the hoops of getting a proprietry driver installed unless you have particlar obvious needs. Does this count? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 This isn't a bug in nouveau but I can appreciate the impact of 96 dpi in some situations. The user could adopt various approaches to alleviating the problem. For example: use xrandr, change font sizes or install a non-free driver. The choice might depend on the number of extra hoops needed in using nouveau. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110221214747.GA6698@desktop
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Lu, 21 feb 11, 21:47:47, Brian wrote: Does this count? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 This isn't a bug in nouveau but I can appreciate the impact of 96 dpi in some situations. The user could adopt various approaches to alleviating the problem. For example: use xrandr, change font sizes or install a non-free driver. The choice might depend on the number of extra hoops needed in using nouveau. :) Ok, I wasn't 100% fair here, since I do need nvidia from time to time for VDPAU and the occasional HoN[1] night. All three together are enough reason for me to only try nouveau out when I expect major changes to have happened. [1] Heroes of Newerth Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Switching to NVIDIA
I am running Sid, and have just switched my video from Intel on-board to a NVIDIA based GE 5200. Now I am thoroughly confused about how to install NVIDIAs driver. I DL'ed the latest run file from Nvidia.com, now when I attempt to get it to install the proper module(s), it tells me I need the kernel source. Doing an aptitude search for kernel turns up a lot of nvidia-related files (including module sources and binary modules) but no kernel source. Am I barking up the wrong tree? Anyone have a link to a good tutorial? -- -- Frank -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219115938.090a9f01.debianl...@videotron.ca
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:59:38 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running Sid, and have just switched my video from Intel on-board to a NVIDIA based GE 5200. Now I am thoroughly confused about how to install NVIDIAs driver. I DL'ed the latest run file from Nvidia.com, now when I attempt to get it to install the proper module(s), it tells me I need the kernel source. Doing an aptitude search for kernel turns up a lot of nvidia-related files (including module sources and binary modules) but no kernel source. Am I barking up the wrong tree? Anyone have a link to a good tutorial? http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers *But* if your card is a GeForce FX 5200, you may need the legacy version of the drivers (173.14.28). http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.28/README/index.html Anyway, have you tried first with nouveau? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.19.17.11...@gmail.com
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On 2011-02-19 11:59:38, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running Sid, and have just switched my video from Intel on-board to a NVIDIA based GE 5200. Now I am thoroughly confused about how to install NVIDIAs driver. I DL'ed the latest run file from Nvidia.com, now when I attempt to get it to install the proper module(s), it tells me I need the kernel source. Doing an aptitude search for kernel turns up a lot of nvidia-related files (including module sources and binary modules) but no kernel source. Am I barking up the wrong tree? Install the linux-headers-$version package if you want to use the NVIDIA installer. /Allan -- Allan Wind Life Integrity, LLC http://lifeintegrity.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219171329.GB9700@vent.lifeintegrity.localnet
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:11:29 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:59:38 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running Sid, and have just switched my video from Intel on-board to a NVIDIA based GE 5200. Anyone have a link to a good tutorial? http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Thanks. Had a look at it, but got a little confused after reading a page or two :) *But* if your card is a GeForce FX 5200, you may need the legacy version of the drivers (173.14.28). That's what I dl'ed from Nvidia.com http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.28/README/index.html Anyway, have you tried first with nouveau? That's the first thing I tried . Seemed to be OK, but a little on the slow side compared with my on-board Intel video. But that could have been an illusion. After I posted to the list I found http://linuxinside.blogspot.com/2008/03/debian-nvidia-drivers.html I used that method, which for me worked perfectly. But I know understand using the DebianWiki way might have been better in the long run - seems simpler after a Kernel update ??? Thanks- I have bookmarked all the sites. -- -- Frank -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219123431.87f6bba7.debianl...@videotron.ca
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:13:29 + Allan Wind allan_w...@lifeintegrity.com wrote: On 2011-02-19 11:59:38, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running Sid, and have just switched my video from Intel on-board to a NVIDIA based GE 5200. Install the linux-headers-$version package if you want to use the NVIDIA installer. Thanks - that's what I ended up doing. I guess I should have done an aptitude search for linux...not kernel. -- -- Frank -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219123544.85baaf83.debianl...@videotron.ca
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat 19 Feb 2011 at 12:34:31 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:11:29 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, have you tried first with nouveau? That's the first thing I tried . Seemed to be OK, but a little on the slow side compared with my on-board Intel video. But that could have been an illusion. 'Slow'? Doing what? I have cards with the same chipset as you and slowness is not an issue with nouveau for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219175651.GP32679@desktop
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:34:31 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:11:29 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Anyone have a link to a good tutorial? http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Thanks. Had a look at it, but got a little confused after reading a page or two :) Yep, is a bit fuzzy to get whole picture if you don't know what is the current status of the nvidia driver for your VGA card and distribution. All this stuff change very fast. *But* if your card is a GeForce FX 5200, you may need the legacy version of the drivers (173.14.28). That's what I dl'ed from Nvidia.com Then that's fine. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.28/README/index.html Anyway, have you tried first with nouveau? That's the first thing I tried . Seemed to be OK, but a little on the slow side compared with my on-board Intel video. But that could have been an illusion. X-) After I posted to the list I found http://linuxinside.blogspot.com/2008/03/debian-nvidia-drivers.html I used that method, which for me worked perfectly. Good. But I know understand using the DebianWiki way might have been better in the long run - seems simpler after a Kernel update ??? Well, yes... installing using the Debian way is easier but you are limited to one set of drivers (the ones available in non-free repository, that is 173.14.27). Thanks- I have bookmarked all the sites. Just remember that for any kernel update it's quite possible you need to update the nvidia driver in the way the link you sent it shows. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.19.18.14...@gmail.com
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:56:51 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 19 Feb 2011 at 12:34:31 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:11:29 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, have you tried first with nouveau? That's the first thing I tried . Seemed to be OK, but a little on the slow side compared with my on-board Intel video. But that could have been an illusion. 'Slow'? Doing what? I have cards with the same chipset as you and slowness is not an issue with nouveau for me. Like I said, might have been an illusion - I have 3 distros on this computer..Sid - Ubuntu Maverick and Ubunty Natty...I have left Maverick with the Nouveau driver so we'll see. I am undecided what to do with Natty...I mean it's already quite buggy (it's in Alpha) so I may stick with Nouveau there as well. Sid is the one I use 80% of the time. It would be **so* nice if Nvidia open-sourced their Linux drivers! -- Frank debianl...@videotron.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219132322.7ae0c5eb.debianl...@videotron.ca
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:14:14 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:34:31 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:11:29 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Anyone have a link to a good tutorial? http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Thanks. Had a look at it, but got a little confused after reading a page or two :) Yep, is a bit fuzzy to get whole picture if you don't know what is the current status of the nvidia driver for your VGA card and distribution. All this stuff change very fast. *But* if your card is a GeForce FX 5200, you may need the legacy version of the drivers (173.14.28). That's what I dl'ed from Nvidia.com Then that's fine. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.28/README/index.html Anyway, have you tried first with nouveau? That's the first thing I tried . Seemed to be OK, but a little on the slow side compared with my on-board Intel video. But that could have been an illusion. X-) After I posted to the list I found http://linuxinside.blogspot.com/2008/03/debian-nvidia-drivers.html I used that method, which for me worked perfectly. Good. But I know understand using the DebianWiki way might have been better in the long run - seems simpler after a Kernel update ??? Well, yes... installing using the Debian way is easier but you are limited to one set of drivers (the ones available in non-free repository, that is 173.14.27). Thanks- I have bookmarked all the sites. Just remember that for any kernel update it's quite possible you need to update the nvidia driver in the way the link you sent it shows. I am hoping kernel updates are few...:) -- Frank debianl...@videotron.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219132516.dba2dab4.debianl...@videotron.ca
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:11:29 + (UTC) Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com wrote: After I posted to the list I found http://linuxinside.blogspot.com/2008/03/debian-nvidia-drivers.html from a text-based terminal ( CTRL-ALT-F1), you run: # sgfxi -c and it runs pulls in the headers for you installs the latest NVIDIA driver from NVIDIA. -- Paul Cartwright -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d60013b.7080...@pcartwright.com
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:59 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running Sid, and have just switched my video from Intel on-board to a NVIDIA based GE 5200. I would recommend to use the DKMS [0] packages to install the proprietary driver for nvidia cards. Which package? == Depending on your chipset you need one of the following packages: 1. nvidia-kernel-dkms 2. nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-dkms 3. nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms 4. nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-dkms (only in sid) You can check the list of supported chipsets on the nvidia page to find which driver supports your card. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/260.19.36/README/supportedchips.html http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/195.36.24/README/supportedchips.html Installation and Configuration == The installation of the dkms driver is more or less the same for each of these pacakges. Enable non-free sources --- Make sure that each deb/deb-src lineends in main contrib non-free. So, for example, the following line: deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main should be changed to: deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free Note that contrib is not really needed, but you might want to add it nonetheless if you plan to install packages like flashplugin-nonfree. You can learn more about the cdn mirror at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianGeoMirror Package installation Change the nvidia-kernel-dkms package to the one you actually need. # aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms Configuration -- The Xorg version in squeeze is most elegantly configured by using an empty, or rather nonexisting, /etc/X11/xorg.conf and by using device specific config snippets in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d. Every file whose filename ends in .conf is included. So you basically do the following: # mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d (if it does not exist) # $EDITOR /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf With the following content: --- snip --- Section Device Identifier My GPU Driver nvidia EndSection' --- snip --- Notes = Using the DKMS approach has the advantage that the module will be compiled whenever you install a new kernel. I can understand that you find the wiki page a bit confusing, but hope that you can follow my instructions. This is the procedure we typically recommend in #d these days. Have a nice day [0] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support -- .''`. Wolodja Wentlandwolodja.wentl...@ed.ac.uk : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat 19 Feb 2011 at 13:23:22 -0500, Frank wrote: Like I said, might have been an illusion - I have 3 distros on this computer..Sid - Ubuntu Maverick and Ubunty Natty...I have left Maverick with the Nouveau driver so we'll see. I am undecided what to do with Natty...I mean it's already quite buggy (it's in Alpha) so I may stick with Nouveau there as well. Sid is the one I use 80% of the time. It would be **so* nice if Nvidia open-sourced their Linux drivers! With NVidia the almost automatic response is to dive into the proprietry driver pool. It seems to me that unless 3D is a need (used by less than 5% of users) or the card is not supported well, you are going to be served well by the nouveau driver. It is also set up automatically with a Squeeze or Sid install so why jump through the hoops of getting a proprietry driver installed unless you have particlar obvious needs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219201028.GR32679@desktop
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On 02/19/2011 02:10 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 19 Feb 2011 at 13:23:22 -0500, Frank wrote: Like I said, might have been an illusion - I have 3 distros on this computer..Sid - Ubuntu Maverick and Ubunty Natty...I have left Maverick with the Nouveau driver so we'll see. I am undecided what to do with Natty...I mean it's already quite buggy (it's in Alpha) so I may stick with Nouveau there as well. Sid is the one I use 80% of the time. It would be **so* nice if Nvidia open-sourced their Linux drivers! With NVidia the almost automatic response is to dive into the proprietry driver pool. It seems to me that unless 3D is a need (used by less than 5% of users) or the card is not supported well, you are going to be served well by the nouveau driver. Does nouveau support vdpau (which, even on the old 8400GS, *significantly* reduces CPU usage when watching video)? -- The normal condition of mankind is tyranny and misery. Milton Friedman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d602961.4000...@cox.net
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:43:23 -0500 Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:11:29 + (UTC) Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com wrote: After I posted to the list I found http://linuxinside.blogspot.com/2008/03/debian-nvidia-drivers.html from a text-based terminal ( CTRL-ALT-F1), you run: # sgfxi -c and it runs pulls in the headers for you installs the latest NVIDIA driver from NVIDIA. And what is sgfxi ? -- -- Frank -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219161646.668f2472.debianl...@videotron.ca
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:43:23 -0500 Paul Cartwrightdeb...@pcartwright.com wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:11:29 + (UTC) Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com wrote: After I posted to the list I found http://linuxinside.blogspot.com/2008/03/debian-nvidia-drivers.html from a text-based terminal ( CTRL-ALT-F1), you run: # sgfxi -c and it runs pulls in the headers for you installs the latest NVIDIA driver from NVIDIA. And what is sgfxi ? http://smxi.org/site/about.htm#sgfxi What is sgfxi (simple graphics installer - s gfx i) The primary purpose of sgfxi is to install non-free graphics drivers. It also supports removing non-free graphics drivers and replacing them with the free version. To do this it cleans out the system of any previous drivers, then installs the latest versions of the driver you have requested. Support for Ubuntu and Arch Linux has been added to sgfxi, so now it should work in most areas in Debian, Ubuntu, and Arch. -- Paul Cartwright
Re: Switching to NVIDIA
On Sat 19 Feb 2011 at 14:34:41 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/19/2011 02:10 PM, Brian wrote: With NVidia the almost automatic response is to dive into the proprietry driver pool. It seems to me that unless 3D is a need (used by less than 5% of users) or the card is not supported well, you are going to be served well by the nouveau driver. Does nouveau support vdpau (which, even on the old 8400GS, *significantly* reduces CPU usage when watching video)? I'd never come across vdpau but it only took me a few seconds to find this post from someone associated with the development of nouveau: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2010-May/005725.html HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110219232348.GT32679@desktop
