Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
Bob Bernstein composed on 2016-06-03 22:29 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: In summary, 16x32 at a lower screen resolution translates to a bigger glyph on any given display. Thanks. That comports with my feeble cogitations. I'll give her a whirl. How did it go? What font size did you wind up with? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
Den 04. juni 2016 03:24, skrev Bob Bernstein: > GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 > GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1024x768 > and rem'd out > # GRUB_TERMINAL=console > > The output of 'hwinfo --framebuffer' suggests I have many other larger > and smaller resolutions available to me, but I am not one to muck > around with undue familiarity in those far reaches. > > If I _knew_ that the result of setting a lesser resolution, say, > 800x600, would render those Terminus2Bold 16x32 jobbies "bigger" on my > monitor, I would rally round and charge into it! > Yes, a single character from a given font will most likely take up more room on your screen if resolution is changed from 1024x768 to 800x600. You could be out of luck and get a large unused border around the output, or even not get any output at all though. LCD screens tend to get a bit "unfocused" if run at non-native resolution. Personally I've not had much luck messing with console resolution, but it is worth a shot if you make sure you have an easy way to revert to the working state you have now.
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Felix Miata wrote: In summary, 16x32 at a lower screen resolution translates to a bigger glyph on any given display. Thanks. That comports with my feeble cogitations. I'll give her a whirl. -- Man is essentially a dreamer, wakened sometimes for a moment by some peculiarly obtrusive element in the outer world, but lapsing again quickly into the happy somnolence of imagination. Russell
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
Bob Bernstein composed on 2016-06-03 21:48 (UTC-0400): I discovered and remedied that I only had one of the firmware-linux-free/nonfree packages installed. Then I enabled framebuffer and began to run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup with some success. I now have Terminus2Bold 16x32 to use in my console, or terminal, or whatever. But I want bigger, to accommodate my failing eyes. This leads me -- ta da, finally! -- to my _question_: Will a given font appear smaller or larger if the screen resolution is increased or decreased? To enable framebuffer I set in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1024x768 and rem'd out # GRUB_TERMINAL=console The output of 'hwinfo --framebuffer' suggests I have many other larger and smaller resolutions available to me, but I am not one to muck around with undue familiarity in those far reaches. If I _knew_ that the result of setting a lesser resolution, say, 800x600, would render those Terminus2Bold 16x32 jobbies "bigger" on my monitor, I would rally round and charge into it! Keeping all else equal, screen dimensions in mm or cm or inches in particular, changing resolution has a big impact on text size. Fewer pixels in a given space means a lower pixel density. So, conversely, more pixels in a given space means higher pixel density. A 16x32 glyph is nominally 16px wide by 32px tall. Those pixels necessarily take up more space as resolution and density are lowered. In summary, 16x32 at a lower screen resolution translates to a bigger glyph on any given display. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Thu, 21 May 2015, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Thu, 21 May 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: It's probably a good idea to have the firmware packages installed, I think these are used to handle throttling to make sure it doesn't overheat. As can be seen, when we last left Bob he was stuck with an impossibly small console font (or, is "terminal font" the correct verbiage?). Last night I hurled all caution to the wind and revisited this situation. For those keeping score at home, this is Jessie, sans systemd, running AMD64. I discovered and remedied that I only had one of the firmware-linux-free/nonfree packages installed. Then I enabled framebuffer and began to run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup with some success. I now have Terminus2Bold 16x32 to use in my console, or terminal, or whatever. But I want bigger, to accommodate my failing eyes. This leads me -- ta da, finally! -- to my _question_: Will a given font appear smaller or larger if the screen resolution is increased or decreased? To enable framebuffer I set in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1024x768 and rem'd out # GRUB_TERMINAL=console The output of 'hwinfo --framebuffer' suggests I have many other larger and smaller resolutions available to me, but I am not one to muck around with undue familiarity in those far reaches. If I _knew_ that the result of setting a lesser resolution, say, 800x600, would render those Terminus2Bold 16x32 jobbies "bigger" on my monitor, I would rally round and charge into it! Thoughts? Thanks! -- Man is essentially a dreamer, wakened sometimes for a moment by some peculiarly obtrusive element in the outer world, but lapsing again quickly into the happy somnolence of imagination. Russell
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
Sorry...sent this first using an incorrect -- for debian-user -- account. Bah. On Thu, 21 May 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: It's probably a good idea to have the firmware packages installed, I think these are used to handle throttling to make sure it doesn't overheat. As can be seen, when we last left Bob he was stuck with an impossibly small console font (or, is "terminal font" the correct verbiage?). Last night I hurled all caution to the wind and revisited this situation. For those keeping score at home, this is Jessie, sans systemd, running AMD64. I discovered and remedied that I only had one of the firmware-linux-free/nonfree packages installed. Then I enabled framebuffer and began to run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup with some success. I now have Terminus2Bold 16x32 to use in my console, or terminal, or whatever. But I want bigger, to accommodate my failing eyes. This leads me -- ta da, finally! -- to my _question_: Will a given font appear smaller or larger if the screen resolution is increased or decreased? To enable framebuffer I set in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1024x768 and rem'd out # GRUB_TERMINAL=console The output of 'hwinfo --framebuffer' suggests I have many other larger and smaller resolutions available to me, but I am not one to muck around with undue familiarity in those far reaches. If I _knew_ that the result of setting a lesser resolution, say, 800x600, would render those Terminus2Bold 16x32 jobbies "bigger" on my monitor, I would rally round and charge into it! Thoughts? Thanks! -- Man is essentially a dreamer, wakened sometimes for a moment by some peculiarly obtrusive element in the outer world, but lapsing again quickly into the happy somnolence of imagination. Russell
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On 2015-05-21, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: After the reboot: setupcon Please forgive my lack of verboseness. Prolixity killed the cat. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmlujtk.3eo.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Fri 22 May 2015 at 18:07:16 +, Curt wrote: On 2015-05-22, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Prolixity killed the cat. Commiserations. There's no accounting for the behaviour of a dog which has been given that name. I nicknamed him Fido. But have you got an alias in ~/.bashrc? Unpredictable behaviour may result if not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/22052015195908.cbb5bb303...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On 2015-05-22, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Prolixity killed the cat. Commiserations. There's no accounting for the behaviour of a dog which has been given that name. I nicknamed him Fido. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmlus2k.3eo.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Fri 22 May 2015 at 15:48:04 +, Curt wrote: On 2015-05-21, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: After the reboot: setupcon Please forgive my lack of verboseness. Prolixity killed the cat. Commiserations. There's no accounting for the behaviour of a dog which has been given that name. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/22052015181929.1c084ffe6...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
2015-05-21 11:10 GMT+08:00 Bob Bernstein poo...@ruptured-duck.com: I always cleave to my number one fundamental rule: if it ain't broke don't fix it. Unless of course curiosity comes into the picture and momentarily releases the crazy person who lives in my head. It wasn't pure unalloyed curiosity. I did see a line in dmesg telling me I should install the package noted. And no, I did not exercise due diligence, say, by looking into why I might really need that package, and into what awful things could happen to me if I failed in my allegiance to the Kernel Gods. My spidey sense is tingling the way it almost always does when I try to foist off on a list a question I know must be a FAQ, but there you have it, nevertheless, as they say. But, may I have my console font back, please? (I have Jessie amd64 here.) -- Bob Bernstein dpkg-reconfigure ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cahw9mbxthpobpmugf3yfusekfys8ync5qlegroentczypkz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Thu 21 May 2015 at 11:35:52 -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 03:28:26PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup After using the above, and rebooting, whatever changes the above made did not appear to take i.e. the teeny tiny console font always reappeared. It was this tenacity that inspired my reckless, but successful, use of 'dpkg -r.' After the reboot: setupcon Please forgive my lack of verboseness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21052015193150.c10eb946d...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Thu, 21 May 2015, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: dpkg-reconfigure ? I wonder: could you be a bit more verbose as to how you think I might use that command? Thanks! -- These are not the droids you are looking for. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/nycvar.QRO.7.75.3.1505210820160.950@arjgebyy.ybpnyqbznva
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 08:22 -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Thu, 21 May 2015, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: dpkg-reconfigure ? I wonder: could you be a bit more verbose as to how you think I might use that command? Thanks! Hi, Probably something changed the console font, or you didn't have console-setup installed before. Use dpkg-reconfigure console-setup (as root) to manage fonts for the console. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Thu, 21 May 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: It's probably a good idea to have the firmware packages installed, I think these are used to handle throttling to make sure it doesn't overheat. Thank you for this insight and all the others you have shared. I am still sufficiently gun-shy that I felt relieved to have been able to back my way out of the problem by removing those packages without breaking _everything!_ g /* Begin rhetorical question Have we -- with Jessie -- in one fell swoop left Wheezy way, way behind, or is that just my poor addled brain whining, again? End rhetorical question */ -- These are not the droids you are looking for. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/nycvar.QRO.7.75.3.1505211757560.1006@arjgebyy.ybpnyqbznva
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 03:28:26PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Probably something changed the console font, or you didn't have console-setup installed before. Console-setup was already installed. The problem arose exactly simultaneously with my installing the firmware-linux metapackage. 'dpkg -r'ing the firmware-linux-free and -nonfree packages fixed the problem. Thank you for your suggestion: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup After using the above, and rebooting, whatever changes the above made did not appear to take i.e. the teeny tiny console font always reappeared. It was this tenacity that inspired my reckless, but successful, use of 'dpkg -r.' Thank you so much, though, for responding to my plea for help! -- Bob Bernstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150521153552.ga19...@sixtiessurvivor.org
Re: Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 11:35 -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 03:28:26PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Probably something changed the console font, or you didn't have console-setup installed before. Console-setup was already installed. The problem arose exactly simultaneously with my installing the firmware-linux metapackage. 'dpkg -r'ing the firmware-linux-free and -nonfree packages fixed the problem. Oh, I see. I think what happens is Kernel Mode Setting. With the proper firmware for your graphics card the kernel sets the console resolution to the resolution of your monitor. You can try setting a larger text size in console-setup, or setting a different resolution: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_mode_setting You might also want to disable KMS if it bothers you, but it might result in problems running X. It's probably a good idea to have the firmware packages installed, I think these are used to handle throttling to make sure it doesn't overheat. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Teeny tiny console font after firmware-linux
I always cleave to my number one fundamental rule: if it ain't broke don't fix it. Unless of course curiosity comes into the picture and momentarily releases the crazy person who lives in my head. It wasn't pure unalloyed curiosity. I did see a line in dmesg telling me I should install the package noted. And no, I did not exercise due diligence, say, by looking into why I might really need that package, and into what awful things could happen to me if I failed in my allegiance to the Kernel Gods. My spidey sense is tingling the way it almost always does when I try to foist off on a list a question I know must be a FAQ, but there you have it, nevertheless, as they say. But, may I have my console font back, please? (I have Jessie amd64 here.) -- Bob Bernstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150521031035.ga23...@sixtiessurvivor.org
