Re: SSH (was Telent)

2000-11-23 Thread Robert Waldner
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 16:42:19 +1100, John Griffiths writes:
First off don't use telnet...use ssh instead. Telnet isn't secure at
all because
it's completely clear text. And yes, there are debs for the ssh system
(but you'll need a non-US deb source).

what clients do you recommend?

openssh (apt-get install ssh), be sure to have a non-US-source like
 deb ftp://ftp.at.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main \
  contrib non-free
in your /etc/apt/sources.list

what command would i invoke? (for instance i've always just done telnet
foo.foo.com)

ssh foo.foo.com if the server has a sshd running.

do i need keys established at both ends?

you should, but it´s also possible to use password-authentication.

i'd really appreciate this advice.. particularly free windows telnet
clients (windows desktop, debian servers)

I´m fond of teraterm (with ssh-extension), try your favourite search 
 engine (for the ssh-ext., search for ttssh).

hth,
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Re: Telent

2000-11-23 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,
if you really need to log in as root via telnet, you must add a line in 
/etc/securetty and add:
pts/0   for only one connection
pts/1   for a second connection
etc.

However, this is unsecure. For maintenance, use ssh instead (and do not
add the lines given above). If you need to acces the computer from a
windoze platform, use Putty, a client way better than the windoze one and
also ssh.
For install you can use:
# apt-get install ssh

this should install the daemon and client.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Trainer wrote:

 I have a question. Is there some configuration that I need to make in order 
 to telnet in to my Linux box. I have a static ip, and i can log on locally. I 
 have the gateway configured. I get the log in thru telnet and enter root and 
 then password. Everytime I get incorrect login I know this is not correct 
 because i can log in locally. Can i use root to log in? I very new to Linux 
 and Debian and need some advice.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Jeff D
 



Telent

2000-11-22 Thread Trainer



I have a question. Is there some configuration that 
I need to make in order to telnet in to my Linux box. I have a static ip, and 
ican log on locally. I have the gateway configured. I get the log in thru 
telnet and enter root and then password. Everytime I get incorrect login I know 
this is not correct because i can log in locally. Can i use root to log in? I 
very new to Linux and Debian and need some advice.

Thanks in advance

Jeff D


Re: Telent

2000-11-22 Thread John Griffiths

Jeff said:
I have a question. Is there some configuration that I need to make in order to telnet in to my Linux box. I have a static ip, and i can log on locally. I have the gateway configured. I get the log in thru telnet and enter root and then password. Everytime I get incorrect login I know this is not correct because i can log in locally. Can i use root to log in? I very new to Linux and Debian and need some advice.

for security reasons very few modern unices allow remote root logon

u need to logon as user first and then su if you want root access




Re: Telent

2000-11-22 Thread Hung Hin Lik, Shell


 Trainer wrote:
 
 I have a question. Is there some configuration that I need to make in
 order to telnet in to my Linux box. I have a static ip, and i can log
 on locally. I have the gateway configured. I get the log in thru
 telnet and enter root and then password. Everytime I get incorrect
 login I know this is not correct because i can log in locally. Can i
 use root to log in? I very new to Linux and Debian and need some
 advice.
Actually, you can remote login to your system through Telnet, if you
want to use 'root' to login your system, try ssh instead of telnet...

Of course, login as normal user, and use 'su' to change to SuperUser
is better... (ssh is better)

About the telnet settings, you may read the man page of 'telnetd', and
config '/etc/inetd.conf'..

-- 
Best Regards,
Shell Hung

Different algorithms offer different degrees of security;
 it depends on how hard they are to break.

   -- Applied Cryptography, Bruce Schneier



Re: Telent

2000-11-22 Thread Steven Kurylo
You cannot use root to login with telnet.  Its disabled by default for 
security reasons.


At 11:28 PM 22/11/00, you wrote:
I have a question. Is there some configuration that I need to make in 
order to telnet in to my Linux box. I have a static ip, and i can log on 
locally. I have the gateway configured. I get the log in thru telnet and 
enter root and then password. Everytime I get incorrect login I know this 
is not correct because i can log in locally. Can i use root to log in? I 
very new to Linux and Debian and need some advice.


Thanks in advance

Jeff D




Re: Telent

2000-11-22 Thread Cheng H. Lee
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 09:28:03PM -0800, Trainer wrote:
 I have a question. Is there some configuration that I need to make in order 
 to telnet in to my Linux box. I have a static ip, and i can log on locally. I 
 have the gateway configured. I get the log in thru telnet and enter root and 
 then password. Everytime I get incorrect login I know this is not correct 
 because i can log in locally. Can i use root to log in? I very new to Linux 
 and Debian and need some advice.

First off don't use telnet...use ssh instead. Telnet isn't secure at all because
it's completely clear text. And yes, there are debs for the ssh system (but 
you'll need a non-US deb source).

Once you've converted to ssh, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set PermitRootLogin 
to yes. Personally, I wouldn't do that -- I have PermitRootLogin set to no for
safety; this requires me to ssh in as a normal user then su to root.

Cheng



Re: Telent

2000-11-22 Thread ktb
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 09:28:03PM -0800, Trainer wrote:
 I have a question. Is there some configuration that I need to make in order 
 to telnet in to my Linux box. I have a static ip, and i can log on locally. I 
 have the gateway configured. I get the log in thru telnet and enter root and 
 then password. Everytime I get incorrect login I know this is not correct 
 because i can log in locally. Can i use root to log in? I very new to Linux 
 and Debian and need some advice.
 

First of all you don't want to login as root especially
with a program like telnet.  Someone could snag your password
and you would not be happy.  Install ssh and use that.  Your
information will be encrypted then.  Even with ssh I would
recommend to login as a regular user and then su to root.
That way someone would have to break two passwords to get to
your vitals:)
hth,
kent

-- 
The only normal people are the one's you don't know very well. 
   ~Joe Ancis~
--
 



SSH (was Telent)

2000-11-22 Thread John Griffiths
First off don't use telnet...use ssh instead. Telnet isn't secure at all 
because
it's completely clear text. And yes, there are debs for the ssh system (but 
you'll need a non-US deb source).

what clients do you recommend?

what command would i invoke? (for instance i've always just done telnet 
foo.foo.com)

do i need keys established at both ends?

i'd really appreciate this advice.. particularly free windows telnet clients 
(windows desktop, debian servers)



Re: SSH (was Telent)

2000-11-22 Thread ktb
On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 04:42:19PM +1100, John Griffiths wrote:
 First off don't use telnet...use ssh instead. Telnet isn't secure at all 
 because
 it's completely clear text. And yes, there are debs for the ssh system (but 
 you'll need a non-US deb source).
 
 what clients do you recommend?
 
 what command would i invoke? (for instance i've always just done telnet 
 foo.foo.com)
 
 do i need keys established at both ends?
 
 i'd really appreciate this advice.. particularly free windows telnet clients 
 (windows desktop, debian servers)
 

You need to have a server and client.  apt-get install ssh
will get what you need installed on your linux machine.  Putty
is about the best free windows ssh client I have come across.
You can find a few more at openssh.com
Also there is a handy remote copy program that comes with it
called scp  
hth,
kent

-- 
The only normal people are the one's you don't know very well. 
   ~Joe Ancis~
--