Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 06:35:08AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:39:55PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > > > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > > > > enough to trigger the bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > > > > > "the bug"? > > > > > > What's this bug you're referring to? > > > > Perhaps: > > > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00680.html > > > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00682.html > > Might be this: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057967 > An attempt to get beyond FUD |Debian Bug report logs - #1057967 |linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 renders my physical bookworm/gnome computer largely unusable version graph |Package: src:linux; Maintainer for src:linux is Debian Kernel Team ; |Affects: src:broadcom-sta, src:linux, linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 |Reported by: Kevin Price |Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 02:03:01 UTC |Severity: serious |Tags: confirmed |Found in version linux/6.1.66-1 |Fixed in version linux/6.1.67-1 |Done: Salvatore Bonaccorso > Cheers > t Groeten Geert Stappers -- Silence is hard to parse
Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:39:55PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > > > enough to trigger the bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > > > "the bug"? > > > > What's this bug you're referring to? > > Perhaps: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00680.html > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00682.html Might be this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057967 Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)
Can anyone please explain: 1. Why upgrades of stable into a potentially seriously compromised state were allowed to continue, twice, rather than pulling the upgrades? or... 2. Why the best temporary solution isn't to revert the kernel to the last known good version so upgrades-other-than-kernel can continue? There may be some versioning jiggery-pokery needed, but doesn't the +deb12xxx (or other) naming convention take care of that? I'm sure I've seen packages previously with names like foo-1.3-really-1.2 This really doesn't seem to have been handled well from an official mitigation/communication pov. There only seems to have been a debian-announce announcement re 12.3 issues. I'm inclined to think there must be reasons why things that seem obvious have not been done, and keen to understand why, if so. Do 1 or 2 above involve disproportionate effort? Were there backwards-incompatible changes to other things (such as filesystems) in the latest kernel(s), so reversion = breakage for some upgraded systems unaffected by recent issues? Thanks, Gareth
Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)
On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > > enough to trigger the bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > "the bug"? > > What's this bug you're referring to? Perhaps: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00680.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00682.html Cheers, David.
The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)
> Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > enough to trigger the bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong. "the bug"? What's this bug you're referring to? Stefan
