Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 7:40 am, Paul Cartwright wrote: Sidarth Dasari wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: [1] http://www.knujon.com/ [2] http://www.complainterator.com/ Thanks for those links :) there is also http://www.spamcop.net/ and thanks for the links!! I purposefully did not mention spamcop in my email because for me spamcop did not reduce spam. If it is anything, my spam volumes increased after I started reporting to spamcop. But since there is no way to prove this, it is at best an allegation against spamcop. While the concept behind spamcop is sound, it is not very efficient in removing spam from your Inboxes unless you use the spamcop's DNSBL to reject the spam messages. But if you do this, there will be lot of false positives and you risk not getting legitimate messages. Moreover, according to spamcop's policies, you should not report spam from debian mailing lists (or any mailing lists you intentionally subscribed to) or spam from bugs.debian.org unless you are administrator of these lists. So it is pretty much useless in my case as almost all the spam I receive is from mailing lists. On a related note, spam mails sent to mailing lists are perfectly acceptable to knujon. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- Free pop3 email with a spam filter. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
Sidarth Dasari wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: [1] http://www.knujon.com/ [2] http://www.complainterator.com/ just my 2 cents raju Thanks for those links :) there is also http://www.spamcop.net/ and thanks for the links!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:59:53 -0600, Sidarth Dasari [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? Spam? The last Spam message I saw was in late October -- or was it early November? This is what filtering is for: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/mail/ http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/categories/spam.html Filtering is a very practical solution. However, the problem with filtering, as I am sure you are already aware of, is that you have already incurred the cost of spam (CPU time spent on filtering, bandwidth used etc.,). I think the correct solution to spam is to look at the root cause of it. Spammers send spam emails because they make money out of it. They make money by advertising their spammed websites (well, most of the spam emails). If we are able to shutdown these spammy websites then at least that would reduce the amount of spam hovering over the internet. So far, I have seen two successful projects doing this - knujon[1], complainterator[2]. [1] http://www.knujon.com/ [2] http://www.complainterator.com/ just my 2 cents raju Thanks for those links :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:59:53 -0600 Sidarth Dasari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah getting lots of it. Man I guess I have to sit down and install and configure spamassasin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:59:53PM -0600, Sidarth Dasari wrote: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? I think it got worse after the transition to the new host (liszt.debian.org)[1]. Maybe the transition is not complete yet? [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/11/msg7.html Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:59:53PM -0600, Sidarth Dasari wrote: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? None at all where I am, my host's spam filtering must be working! :-) -- Chris Green -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:59:53 -0600, Sidarth Dasari [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? Spam? The last Spam message I saw was in late October -- or was it early November? This is what filtering is for: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/mail/ http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/categories/spam.html manoj -- A modem is a baudy house. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
Usually gmail filters it out pretty well, but I think perhaps it white listed the debian-user address. I hope it can catch the right stuff without blocking the real questions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
On Nov 25, 2007 7:04 PM, Sidarth Dasari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Usually gmail filters it out pretty well, but I think perhaps it white listed the debian-user address. I hope it can catch the right stuff without blocking the real questions. I had that problem yesterday. Today's much better. Since my spam folder isn't growing as fast as the mail was arriving yesterday, it may be that the mailserv is catching more of the spam. You shouldn't have a problem with gmail filtering based solely on the debian-user address. Mark the spam, look for mistakenly flagged ham, and gmail will learn. -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com http://36pints.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
Jonathan Kaye writes: I'm using a newsreader (knode) and it's pretty easy to lose authentic messages in the crowd, but I really feel for the people who get this list via email. I use Spamassassin and have Mailagent configured to delete messages with spam scores over ten. There were three messages in my spam directory this morning. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
At 11:59 PM 11/24/2007, Sidarth Dasari wrote: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes a lot. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1151 - Release Date: 11/25/2007 4:24 PM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
Sidarth Dasari wrote: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? Yes. I am receiving a lot of spam emails. Most of it is sent to bugs.debian.org of which some get forwarded to debian mailing lists. Currently, I am forwarding the spam emails to knujon project who seem to be very effective in shutting down the websites advertised in the spam emails. If I have time, sometimes I send complaints to the registrars of the websites involved (using a tool called complainterator). Some of the registrars are quite pro-active and shut down the spammy nameservers reported. If a spammy nameserver is shutdown, it shuts down hundreds spam websites in a single blow. However the whole process is quite time consuming... If you are still interested, I would like to refer you to www.castlecops.com/forums.html where people discuss about knujon, complainterator, other anti-spam efforts such as PIRT, MIRT, SIRT etc., hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:59:53 -0600, Sidarth Dasari [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? Spam? The last Spam message I saw was in late October -- or was it early November? This is what filtering is for: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/mail/ http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/categories/spam.html Filtering is a very practical solution. However, the problem with filtering, as I am sure you are already aware of, is that you have already incurred the cost of spam (CPU time spent on filtering, bandwidth used etc.,). I think the correct solution to spam is to look at the root cause of it. Spammers send spam emails because they make money out of it. They make money by advertising their spammed websites (well, most of the spam emails). If we are able to shutdown these spammy websites then at least that would reduce the amount of spam hovering over the internet. So far, I have seen two successful projects doing this - knujon[1], complainterator[2]. [1] http://www.knujon.com/ [2] http://www.complainterator.com/ just my 2 cents raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
On 11/25/07, Robert Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes a lot. I haven't at least not today. I got a few yesterday, 2 even in Chinese. I also saw a relative large spike in 409 spam from a number of different people (who knows, they could all be the same person masquerading under different names). On my relatively new gmail account, I don't get that much spam, but 12 409 scams (at least) in a few hours is pretty excessive. I also got a bunch of various foreign lottery scams too. But I didn't check too closely to see if they were coming from the list or going directly to my email address. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1151 - Release Date: 11/25/2007 4:24 PM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
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Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
Sidarth Dasari wrote: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? Not only spam, but spam of the Japanese and Arabian variety :-/ Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
Sidarth Dasari wrote: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? Yes, a real spam blizzard has hit debian.user I'm using a newsreader (knode) and it's pretty easy to lose authentic messages in the crowd, but I really feel for the people who get this list via email. I hope your filters are working. Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The excessive amounts of spam I am getting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/25/07 00:43, Jonathan Kaye wrote: Sidarth Dasari wrote: Is anybody else getting tons of spam emails from this mailing list? Yes, a real spam blizzard has hit debian.user I'm using a newsreader (knode) and it's pretty easy to lose authentic messages in the crowd, but I really feel for the people who get this list via email. I hope your filters are working. The combo of my ISP's filter plus local Spam Assassin proves *quite* effective at preventing spam from reaching my Debian User folder. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHSSrhS9HxQb37XmcRAmSxAKDuV9TXeGHxq0AU83CNiAaHGgpEDQCgiZno I7ygGDhjuHSgk7qsvHC3etY= =/kss -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
