Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-20 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Sam Halliday wrote:
Ralph Katz wrote:
For searching *within* a web page in firefox

sorry if i was unclear... i mean the search bar at the top. the one that 
requires search engines, like google.

cheers,
Sam
Hi Sam,
OH that one!
If you mean the one just to the right of the basic url textbox, then 
ctl-k does that for you. If you (1) select and copy text from some 
webpage, then ctl-k then ctl-v it will paste whatever your selection is 
in that searchbox over whatever (if anything) was in it before. BTW, 
ctl-f works exactly the same. The combo ctl-f ctl-v will paste whatever 
you've just selected into the searchbox in the lower lefthand corner of 
Firefox.
I hope I've understood you now.
Cheers,
Jonathan

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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-20 Thread Sam Halliday
Jonathan Kaye wrote:
Sam Halliday wrote:
Ralph Katz wrote:
For searching *within* a web page in firefox
sorry if i was unclear... i mean the search bar at the top. the one 
that requires search engines, like google.
OH that one!
If you mean the one just to the right of the basic url textbox, then 
ctl-k does that for you.
no, you need to 'C-k Del' to do what i want. besides... that is not the point. 
i knew the keystroke from the very beginning of the thread, i was axing if 
anyone had written an extension to do what thunderbird does; bring up a 
'clear' button.

thanks anyway.
cheers,
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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-19 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Sam Halliday wrote:
for anyone who has thunderbird installed, they will notice that when you 
search for an item in the search bar, a little button appears which 
allows you to clear the field... is there an extension to firefox which 
enables the same feature in its search bar? as it is very irritating 
having to manually clear the search bar every time.

cheers,
Sam
Hi Sam,
I just use ctl-f which opens the search box if it's not already open. It 
highlights any text in the box if it's already open so anything I type 
replaces what's highlighted. It shifts focus to the search box as well 
so even if the box is on the main Firefox browser window ctl-f will get 
you straight to the search box. I'm using KDE and ctl-f is the search 
command used in KDE apps anyway. Isn't that easier and quicker than 
using a button.
Cheers,
Jonathan

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Re: Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-19 Thread Ralph Katz
On 12/19/2004 09:10 AM, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 Sam Halliday wrote:

 for anyone who has thunderbird installed, they will notice that when
 you search for an item in the search bar, a little button appears
 which allows you to clear the field... is there an extension to
 firefox which enables the same feature in its search bar? as it is
 very irritating having to manually clear the search bar every time.

 cheers,
 Sam


 Hi Sam,
 I just use ctl-f which opens the search box if it's not already open. It
 highlights any text in the box if it's already open so anything I type
 replaces what's highlighted. It shifts focus to the search box as well
 so even if the box is on the main Firefox browser window ctl-f will get
 you straight to the search box. I'm using KDE and ctl-f is the search
 command used in KDE apps anyway. Isn't that easier and quicker than
 using a button.
 Cheers,
 Jonathan
Jonathan and Sam,
For searching *within* a web page in firefox, there's also find as you type.
Edit - Preferences - Advanced  or about:config - 
accessibility.typeaheadfind

For searching *within* a message in thunderbird, there's also 
mozilla-thunderbird-typeaheadfind package for similar functionality.

Regards,
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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-19 Thread Sam Halliday
Jonathan Kaye wrote:
Sam Halliday wrote:
for anyone who has thunderbird installed, they will notice that when 
you search for an item in the search bar, a little button appears 
which allows you to clear the field... is there an extension to 
firefox which enables the same feature in its search bar? as it is 
very irritating having to manually clear the search bar every time.
I just use ctl-f which opens the search box if it's not already open. It 
highlights any text in the box if it's already open so anything I type 
replaces what's highlighted. It shifts focus to the search box as well 
so even if the box is on the main Firefox browser window ctl-f will get 
you straight to the search box. I'm using KDE and ctl-f is the search 
command used in KDE apps anyway.

Isn't that easier and quicker than using a button.
no. consider the situation where i have selected text from the browser window 
which i wish to search for. C-f will not delete the text in the search window, 
and neither will pasting over it. the only key combination which will do what 
i wish involves 4 key presses on my laptop C-k Fn-BS (to send C-k Del). a 
button would be much better, and not require me to learn any new key strokes. 
i already use emacs... i think thats enough key shortcuts for a lifetime!

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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-19 Thread Sam Halliday
Ralph Katz wrote:
For searching *within* a web page in firefox
sorry if i was unclear... i mean the search bar at the top. the one that 
requires search engines, like google.

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Re: Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-18 Thread Ralph Katz
On 12/17/2004 11:40 PM, Travis Crump wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, I can't for the life of me figure
out where in the gnome-keyboard-properties dialog you are supposed to
set this.

From terminal:
$ gnome-keybinding-properties
Note that that is different from gnome-keyboard-properties.
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Re: Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-18 Thread Ralph Katz
On 12/18/2004 12:00 AM, Sam Halliday wrote:
thanks, unfortunately that is not an optimal solution as on my laptop
keyboard it is quite tricky to send Delete.
Tricky to hit the delete key?!
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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-18 Thread Travis Crump
Ralph Katz wrote:
On 12/17/2004 11:40 PM, Travis Crump wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, I can't for the life of me figure
out where in the gnome-keyboard-properties dialog you are supposed to
set this.

 From terminal:
$ gnome-keybinding-properties
Note that that is different from gnome-keyboard-properties.

gnome-keybinding-properties just gives me the dialog where you set 
shortcuts ala the old acme.  Still can't figure out where I'd be 
supposed to find 'text editing shortcuts'; I've tried everything under 
Applications-Desktop Preferences.


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Re: Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-18 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 14:20 -0500, Ralph Katz wrote:
 On 12/18/2004 12:00 AM, Sam Halliday wrote:
 
  thanks, unfortunately that is not an optimal solution as on my laptop
  keyboard it is quite tricky to send Delete.
 
 Tricky to hit the delete key?!

Remember, it's a laptop, not a desktop keyboard.

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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-18 Thread Sam Halliday
Ralph Katz wrote:
Sam Halliday wrote:
thanks, unfortunately that is not an optimal solution as on my laptop
keyboard it is quite tricky to send Delete.
Tricky to hit the delete key?!
yes its a laptop keyboard, so Delete (unlike Backspace) requires a two-key 
combination, which is just a pain. when you think about it... thats 4 keys you 
need to press in order to clear the taskbar, but a single click could do the 
same thing.

to be honest... i use this key combination and always have... but i much 
prefer the button Thunderbird implements. since no-one seems to have written 
an extension to do this (its maybe a little ridiculous to write an extension 
for something so trivial), i have opened up a wishlist report on bugzilla
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275193
hopefully it'll get picked up for 1.1

thanks for everyone's replies!
cheers,
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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-18 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 17 2004, Steve Lamb wrote:
 Firefox setting CNTL-U to upload manager was pretty dumb since CNTL-U
 is unix' default for clear field.  :/

Put this into your .gtkrc-2.0 file:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
gtk-key-theme-name = Emacs
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

And while we're at it, here are the contents of my .gtkrc file:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
include /usr/share/themes/Raleigh/gtk/gtkrc

style user-font
{
  font=-bitstream-bitstream vera 
sans-medium-r-normal-*-*-110-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
}
widget_class * style user-font
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

This way, my GTK 1 applications are more or less similar to my GTK 2
applications.


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Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Sam Halliday
for anyone who has thunderbird installed, they will notice that when you 
search for an item in the search bar, a little button appears which allows you 
to clear the field... is there an extension to firefox which enables the same 
feature in its search bar? as it is very irritating having to manually clear 
the search bar every time.

cheers,
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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
Sam Halliday wrote:
for anyone who has thunderbird installed, they will notice that when 
you search for an item in the search bar, a little button appears 
which allows you to clear the field... is there an extension to 
firefox which enables the same feature in its search bar? as it is 
very irritating having to manually clear the search bar every time.

cheers,
Sam
what's so bad about ctrl-a, delete?
oh yeah that's windows.
I'm still just a wanna be.
what is the select-all keystroke in... I guess gnome? don't tell me it 
doesn't exist.
bu

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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Steve Lamb
Michael Z Daryabeygi wrote:
what is the select-all keystroke in... I guess gnome? don't tell me it 
doesn't exist.
CNTL-A.  Problem is that we're talking X style selects.  Select something 
it is automatically coped into the CP buffer.  So you can't do a Windows 
style CNTL-A, CNTL-C, click, CNTL-A, CNTL-V since the CNTL-V would yield the 
contents you're trying to get rid of.

   Firefox setting CNTL-U to upload manager was pretty dumb since CNTL-U is 
unix' default for clear field.  :/

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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Steve Lamb wrote:
Michael Z Daryabeygi wrote:
what is the select-all keystroke in... I guess gnome? don't tell me 
it doesn't exist.

CNTL-A.  Problem is that we're talking X style selects.  Select 
something it is automatically coped into the CP buffer.  So you can't 
do a Windows style CNTL-A, CNTL-C, click, CNTL-A, CNTL-V since the 
CNTL-V would yield the contents you're trying to get rid of.

   Firefox setting CNTL-U to upload manager was pretty dumb since 
CNTL-U is unix' default for clear field.  :/

I seem to recall that older builds of Firefox and Thunderbird used
the Unix-style (I believe the same shortcuts as used by GNU readline)
when run in Linux.  For example, if you started typing something in
the address bar, a CTRL-U would clear what you had typed.  If you
were entering a serch query on Google's homepage, a CTRL-W would
delete the previous word.  I get really irritated now and then because
I still forget sometimes.  I will type in a 10-word Google query and
hit CTRL-W to delete the last word I typed and wham.  My tab is closed.
If anyone knows how to get Firefox and Thunderbird to default to the
old keyboard shortcuts, I would like to know about it.
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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread bmetcalf

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Re: Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Ralph Katz
On 12/17/2004 08:30 PM, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
If anyone knows how to get Firefox and Thunderbird to default to the
old keyboard shortcuts, I would like to know about it.
I learned the answer earlier from this list:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/10/msg03534.html
Some additional notes are now in
/usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/README.Debian .
And Sam, to clear the search bar, Ctrl-J, Delete or just type new entry.
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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Steve Lamb
Ralph Katz wrote:
On 12/17/2004 08:30 PM, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

If anyone knows how to get Firefox and Thunderbird to default to the
old keyboard shortcuts, I would like to know about it.

I learned the answer earlier from this list:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/10/msg03534.html
Fat lot that does those of us using KDE.  Pft.  This whole must run 
Gnome to configure crap is starting to really piss me off.  At least KDE apps 
have the courtesy of allowing one to configure their shortcuts in the app.

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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Michael Marsh
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:47:06 -0800, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Fat lot that does those of us using KDE.  Pft.  This whole must run
 Gnome to configure crap is starting to really piss me off.  At least KDE apps
 have the courtesy of allowing one to configure their shortcuts in the app.

Actually, what works just fine is to add the following line to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0

gtk-key-theme-name = Emacs

I'm not running Gnome, either, nor KDE.  I'd rather see this done
through Firefox's internal configurations, but it could be worse.

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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 07:47:06PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
 Ralph Katz wrote:
 I learned the answer earlier from this list:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/10/msg03534.html
 
 Fat lot that does those of us using KDE.  Pft.  This whole must run 
 Gnome to configure crap is starting to really piss me off.  At least KDE 
 apps have the courtesy of allowing one to configure their shortcuts in the 
 app.

Huh?  Did I miss something?

From ~/.gtkrc-2.0:

# allow ctrl-u to work in text boxes
binding my-text-entry {
  bind ctrlu { delete-from-cursor (paragraphs, -1) }
}
class GtkEntry binding my-text-entry

# and in text views
binding my-text-view {
  bind u { delete-from-cursor (paragraphs, 1) }
}
class GtkTextView binding my-text-view

# ---
# allow the user to change accelerators
gtk-can-change-accels = 1

It's not like it's rocket science, guys.  If you don't want to use g-c-c (I
certainly don't), then set things the way you want them to be yourself.

Of course, I would never use crapfox either, but this solves the problem
for *all* GTK applications.

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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Travis Crump
Steve Lamb wrote:
Ralph Katz wrote:
On 12/17/2004 08:30 PM, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

If anyone knows how to get Firefox and Thunderbird to default to the
old keyboard shortcuts, I would like to know about it.

I learned the answer earlier from this list:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/10/msg03534.html

Fat lot that does those of us using KDE.  Pft.  This whole must run 
Gnome to configure crap is starting to really piss me off.  At least 
KDE apps have the courtesy of allowing one to configure their shortcuts 
in the app.

If it makes you feel any better, I can't for the life of me figure out 
where in the gnome-keyboard-properties dialog you are supposed to set this.


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Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox

2004-12-17 Thread Sam Halliday
Ralph Katz wrote:
And Sam, to clear the search bar, Ctrl-J, Delete or just type new entry.
thanks, unfortunately that is not an optimal solution as on my laptop keyboard 
it is quite tricky to send Delete. the little X box which thunderbird has is 
preferable to any keyboard shortcut to be honest. i was just wondering if 
anyone has written a little extension to add that support...

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