Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-14 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Thursday 12 July 2012 1:47:14 pm Miles Fidelman wrote:
 Kushal Kumaran wrote:
  Ken Heard kensli...@teksavvy.com wrote:
  Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung tablet
  with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze, using either
  a
  USB or Bluetooth connection between them?  I know I can transfer them
  by
  e-mail, but that method is cumbersome.
  
  I hear newer versions of android no longer support the usb mass storage
  protocol. They use something called Media Transfer Protocol. The libmtp
  package (and associated utility packages) should help, but I think they
  are still in debian unstable only.
 
 amazing what one can find with a little googling:
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sa
 ndwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access

Thanks.  I carried out these steps yesterday even though I'm not using ubuntu.  
Didn't work yesterday, does today (go figure).  Problem may be solved.

Mark


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-13 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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Hi,

On 12.07.2012 18:55, Ken Heard wrote:
 Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung
 tablet with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze,
 using either a USB or Bluetooth connection between them?  I know I
 can transfer them by e-mail, but that method is cumbersome.
 
 Ken Heard

I don't have Samsung tablet, but I have Samsung Galaxy 5 Android phone
and Debian (Sid) detects it when I plug in USB-cable on phone and
computer. The phone appears like an USB-stick and then it can be
opened file browser and everything can be copy-pasted.

Just make sure that you switch off USB debugging under development
settings, or otherwise you can only move files with adb push and
adb pull.


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-13 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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On 12.07.2012 19:39, m...@neidorff.com wrote:
 If I can add value to this postI just got a Samsung Galaxy S
 III and would like to know how to transfer my music and podcasts
 from my PC to the phone.  Just like the tablet, the phone is not
 recognized as a device when the USB cable is plugged in.  So, my
 question is how are files copied to it?

Uncheck Settings -- Applicaltions -- Development -- USB debugging

If that is checked, you can only move files using ADB.

That wasn't checked by default in my Galaxy 5, but Galaxy Y of my
sister had it checked by default and it seems to check itself
automatically on reboot*.

*Why people who hate this feature have it and not me, who would like
it? :(

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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-13 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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On 12.07.2012 20:22, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
 I hear newer versions of android no longer support the usb mass
 storage protocol. They use something called Media Transfer
 Protocol. The libmtp package (and associated utility packages)
 should help, but I think they are still in debian unstable only.

Maybe that is why it works for me on Sid. I seem to have some of those
packages installed.

I hope that unchecking USB debugging works.

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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-13 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Mika Suomalainen
mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote:
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 On 12.07.2012 20:22, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
 I hear newer versions of android no longer support the usb mass
 storage protocol. They use something called Media Transfer
 Protocol. The libmtp package (and associated utility packages)
 should help, but I think they are still in debian unstable only.

 Maybe that is why it works for me on Sid. I seem to have some of those
 packages installed.


It works for you because you have an older version of Android on your
phone.  In newer versions (I think honeycomb onwards), the support for
mass storage is not present.  It means that the phone will not act
like a usb hard disk when you plug it in.  To interact with the
storage, you have to use software that can speak the Media Transfer
Protocol (or the specific dialect of it that android speaks, I haven't
looked at it in any detail).

 I hope that unchecking USB debugging works.


AFAIK, this has nothing to do with accessing the storage.  I have two
pre-honeycomb phones, and I always leave usb debugging turned on, and
I have no problems accessing the phones as usb mass storage devices.
You have to explicitly switch the USB connection type (check the
notifications after you connect a usb cable) to Mass Storage or
Disk Drive (or whatever text your particular phone uses) for it to
switch to the mass storage protocol.  In Honeycomb+, this option has
been removed.

Hope this makes it clearer.

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Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Ken Heard
Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung tablet
with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze, using either a
USB or Bluetooth connection between them?  I know I can transfer them by
e-mail, but that method is cumbersome.

Ken Heard


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread mark
 Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung tablet
 with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze, using either a
 USB or Bluetooth connection between them?  I know I can transfer them by
 e-mail, but that method is cumbersome.


If I can add value to this postI just got a Samsung Galaxy S III and
would like to know how to transfer my music and podcasts from my PC to the
phone.  Just like the tablet, the phone is not recognized as a device when
the USB cable is plugged in.  So, my question is how are files copied to
it?

Thanks,

Mark


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:39 AM,  m...@neidorff.com wrote:
 Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung tablet
 with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze, using either a
 USB or Bluetooth connection between them?  I know I can transfer them by
 e-mail, but that method is cumbersome.


 If I can add value to this postI just got a Samsung Galaxy S III and
 would like to know how to transfer my music and podcasts from my PC to the
 phone.  Just like the tablet, the phone is not recognized as a device when
 the USB cable is plugged in.  So, my question is how are files copied to
 it?


But when you plug it in, could you look for it in dmesg?

That is, when you plug it in and press the button to connect it, can you
run dmesg, and look for lines like
   blah blah blah /dev/sdg blah blah blah
then sudo mount it on /mnt (or elsewhere)?  (There may be some wrinkle
like you mount /dev/sd-whatever instead of /dev/sd-whatever1.)

Anyhow, if that works, then you can just copy files in and out
of where you've mounted it.

dan


 Thanks,

 Mark


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Ken Heard kensli...@teksavvy.com wrote:

Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung tablet
with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze, using either
a
USB or Bluetooth connection between them?  I know I can transfer them
by
e-mail, but that method is cumbersome.


I hear newer versions of android no longer support the usb mass storage 
protocol. They use something called Media Transfer Protocol. The libmtp package 
(and associated utility packages) should help, but I think they are still in 
debian unstable only. 


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Miles Fidelman

Kushal Kumaran wrote:

Ken Heard kensli...@teksavvy.com wrote:


Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung tablet
with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze, using either
a
USB or Bluetooth connection between them?  I know I can transfer them
by
e-mail, but that method is cumbersome.


I hear newer versions of android no longer support the usb mass storage 
protocol. They use something called Media Transfer Protocol. The libmtp package 
(and associated utility packages) should help, but I think they are still in 
debian unstable only.



amazing what one can find with a little googling:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access

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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Siard
Miles Fidelman wrote:
 amazing what one can find with a little googling:
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access

In addition to that, I found another method which is amazingly fast:
install an application like 'Software data cable' in your Android
device.  If device and PC both share the same WiFi connection, then you
can access your device from your PC through an ftp program, e.g. gftp.


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Thursday 12 July 2012 1:47:14 pm Miles Fidelman wrote:
  
  I hear newer versions of android no longer support the usb mass storage
  protocol. They use something called Media Transfer Protocol. The libmtp
  package (and associated utility packages) should help, but I think they
  are still in debian unstable only.
 
 amazing what one can find with a little googling:
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sa
 ndwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access

It doesn't work for me.  Here is the error output that I get:

mark@Mark:~$ mtp-detect
libmtp version: 1.0.3

Listing raw device(s)
Device 0 (VID=04e8 and PID=6860) is UNKNOWN.
Please report this VID/PID and the device model to the libmtp development team
   Found 1 device(s):
   04e8:6860 @ bus 1, dev 8
Attempting to connect device(s)
PTP_ERROR_IO: Trying again after re-initializing USB interface
LIBMTP PANIC: Could not open session! (Return code 767)
  Try to reset the device.
Unable to open raw device 0
OK.


Thanks,
Mark


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Siard
Mark Neidorff:
 Miles Fidelman: 
  amazing what one can find with a little googling:
  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sa
  ndwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
 
 It doesn't work for me.  Here is the error output that I get:
 
 mark@Mark:~$ mtp-detect
 libmtp version: 1.0.3
 
 Listing raw device(s)
 Device 0 (VID=04e8 and PID=6860) is UNKNOWN.
 Please report this VID/PID and the device model to the libmtp
 development team Found 1 device(s):
04e8:6860 @ bus 1, dev 8

It's OK, you just need the VID and PID in order to put them into
/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules.

You might understand a little more of mtpfs after reading this:
www.linux-magazine.com/content/view/full/45191/(offset)/3

For more interesting stuff on MTP in Linux, try the same url, leaving
away the 3 at the end.


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Cam Hutchison
Ken Heard kensli...@teksavvy.com writes:

Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung tablet
with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze, using either a
USB or Bluetooth connection between them?  I know I can transfer them by
e-mail, but that method is cumbersome.

As others have mentioned in this thread, Honeycomb and onwards use MTP as
the protocol for communicating with a USB host instead of MSC (mass storage
class).

I have not found a reliable MTP stack on linux, possibly because the MTP
protocol itself is not very general, so treating the device as a filesystem
is an abstraction mismatch.

Instead, I have install an app called AirDroid on my tablet. This lets me
communicate with the tablet via my browser, and supports transferring
files that way. It does not give the flexibility of treating the device
as a mounted filesystem, but works well enough for my purposes.

I know that's not USB or bluetooth, but hopefully it is still suitable.


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Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Mark Blakeney
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:55:54 -0400, Ken Heard wrote:
 Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung tablet
 with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze, using either a
 USB or Bluetooth connection between them?  I know I can transfer them by
 e-mail, but that method is cumbersome.

Dropbox?


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