Re: Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 13 December 2014 05:47:25 Ric Moore wrote:
 Our computers are the worst of
 mistresses.

Logical, consistent, predictable, biddable ... oh yes, and demanding. ;-)

Lisi


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Re: Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-12 Thread peter
From: Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:37:09 -0500
 Is this in a desktop machine?
 Can you remove the board?
 If so, is there a window nearby?
 Then, open the window and throw that board out. :)

Will aim for a recycling bin about 2 km distant.

 Older nVidia boards, ten times as capable as that Matrox device, go for $20, 
 or less, all day long.

Will see what else was donated.

From: Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:19:45 +0100
 So, please, put this graphics card to rest and just use a cheap, fanless
 Nvidia or ATI ...

See above.

Thanks fellows, ... Peter E.

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Re: Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-12 Thread Ric Moore

On 12/12/2014 09:34 PM, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:

From: Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:37:09 -0500

Is this in a desktop machine?
Can you remove the board?
If so, is there a window nearby?
Then, open the window and throw that board out. :)


Will aim for a recycling bin about 2 km distant.


Older nVidia boards, ten times as capable as that Matrox device, go for $20, or 
less, all day long.


Will see what else was donated.

From: Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:19:45 +0100

So, please, put this graphics card to rest and just use a cheap, fanless
Nvidia or ATI ...


See above.

Thanks fellows, ... Peter E.


It's all heartbreak out there. Our computers are the worst of 
mistresses. But, you still love them. :) Ric




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Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-11 Thread peter
A CRT monitor and an IBM flat monitor are connected to a Matrox G450  
adapter.  Both monitors display the command line interface.  With X 
running, the monitor on output 1 is active; the monitor on output 2 
indicates absence of signal.  If the monitors are swapped across the 
output connectors, output 2 continues to indicate absence of a signal 
while output 1 works.  From that I conclude that the monitors are OK.

* Do the following reports help to localize the problem to the video 
adapter or to software?  
* Failed to get size of gamma for output default?
* Other ideas?

Thanks,... Peter E.

 = 
peter@joule:~$ lspci -v -s 01:00.0
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G400/G450
 (rev 85) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. Millennium G450 32Mb SDRAM Du
al Head
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at f200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
Memory at fe9fc000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Memory at fe00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8M]
Expansion ROM at fe9c [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: matrox_w1

peter@joule:~$ lsmod | grep matrox
matrox_w1  12547  0
wire   19207  1 matrox_w1
peter@joule:~$ lsmod | grep mga
mga26157  1 
drm   146387  2 mga

peter@joule:~$ xrandr
Can't open display

peter@joule:~$ xrandr -d :0
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1024x768   87.0*75.0 85.0 60.0 70.0  
   832x62475.0  
   800x60085.0 75.0 72.0 60.0 56.0  
   840x52560.0  
   700x52560.0  
   640x51260.0  
   720x45060.0  
   640x48085.0 75.0 67.0 60.0 73.0  
   720x40070.0 85.0  
   680x38460.0  
   640x40085.0  
   576x43275.0 70.0 60.0  
   640x35085.0  
   512x38487.0 85.0 75.0 70.0 60.0  
   416x31275.0  
   400x30085.0 75.0 72.0 60.0 56.0  
   320x24085.0  
   360x20085.0  
peter@joule:~$ xrandr -d :1
Can't open display :1

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Re: Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-11 Thread Sven Hartge
pe...@easthope.ca wrote:

 A CRT monitor and an IBM flat monitor are connected to a Matrox G450
 adapter.  Both monitors display the command line interface.  With X
 running, the monitor on output 1 is active; the monitor on output 2
 indicates absence of signal.  If the monitors are swapped across the
 output connectors, output 2 continues to indicate absence of a signal
 while output 1 works.  From that I conclude that the monitors are OK.

 * Do the following reports help to localize the problem to the video 
 adapter or to software?  
 * Failed to get size of gamma for output default?
 * Other ideas?

Dual-Monitor wirh a G450 only works with a binary-only HAL from Matrox
(no longer available) which must be compatible with your X-Version. 

Conclusion: Dual-Monitor with a G450 on a newer Debian Version than
maybe Lenny or Etch is not possible.

Sorry.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-11 Thread Ric Moore

On 12/11/2014 10:40 AM, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:

A CRT monitor and an IBM flat monitor are connected to a Matrox G450
adapter.


Please, I am not trying to be rude here. cackles but here it comes...

Is this in a desktop machine?
Can you remove the board?
If so, is there a window nearby?
Then, open the window and throw that board out. :)

Older nVidia boards, ten times as capable as that Matrox device, go for 
$20, or less, all day long. I had a very old 5200 running two monitors. 
It was shaky as merry hell, but it worked.


Didja try here?:
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/drivers/download/?id=143
(this is from 2006)
...or root around in here?:
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/drivers/previous/menu/

Otherwise, try apt-get install matroxset and see if that helps. Synaptic 
recommends several other packages as well, searching on matrox. OR, 
just expect less of this video setup and live with it. If you have an 
older laptop with Matrox chipset video in it, I guess there isn't a lot 
of hope there for what you want to do, as Sven mentioned.


I have to give them credit, it seems that Matrox is now more for 
industrial video wall setups nowadays, big time. Good luck! :) Ric



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Re: Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-11 Thread Sven Hartge
Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:

 Didja try here?:
 http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/drivers/download/?id=143
 (this is from 2006)

This contains the HAL I was talking about.

From the README:

,
| A working installation of XFree86 4.3.0, and X.org versions 6.7.0,
| 6.8.0, 6.8.1, 6.8.2, 6.9.0, 7.0.0 is required before the binaries
| can be installed.
`

X.org 7.0 was released in December 2005, 9 years ago.

You might be able to use this driver with Debian Etch.

But then DVI does not work with anything newer than XFree86 4.2:

,
| The DualHead Multi-Display - Merged feature is available on G450-
| and G550- based products only. Please take note that this feature
| does not support DVI monitors in XFree86 4.3.0, and X.org versions
| 6.7.0, 6.8.0, 6.8.1, 6.8.2, 6.9.0, 7.0.0.
`

XFree86 4.2 was released in 2002, 12 years go.

So, please, put this graphics card to rest and just use a cheap, fanless
Nvidia or ATI on.

Grüße,
Sven.

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