APC Back Pro 650 UPS anyone??
Hi, can anyone send advice on software and configuration for this thing? I've tried apcd without success. I'got the shipped cable and really DON'T want to make a custom one. Thanx -- __ Felipe Alvarez Harnecker. QlSoftware. Tel. 09.874.60.17 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Potenciado por Debian GNU/Linux http://www.qlsoft.cl/ __
Re: APC Back Pro 650 UPS anyone??
I'm not sure if this is what you're looking at/for, but you might want to check out this link: http://www.apcc.com/products/management/pcp_linux.cfm -nicole At 19:05 on Aug 26, Felipe Alvarez Harnecker combined all the right letters...: Hi, can anyone send advice on software and configuration for this thing? I've tried apcd without success. I'got the shipped cable and really DON'T want to make a custom one. Thanx
Re: APC Back Pro 650 UPS anyone??
Thus spake Felipe Alvarez Harnecker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): can anyone send advice on software and configuration for this thing? I've tried apcd without success. I'got the shipped cable and really DON'T want to make a custom one. Use [1]network UPS tools. It works with APC UPSs as well as most other major brands. It works wonderfully... References: 1. http://www.exploits.org/nut/ -- oneiros ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 1024D/62C2F77D 94143243451512659321 url: http://www.darkspire.net/ EBB8 AF14 8C43 2F12 7623 05187239048682851291 irc: EFnet / tietNET / opn C0AA C0AE 56D4 62C2 F77D 34748760276719592346
Re: APC Back Pro 650 UPS anyone??
Is your cable grey or black ? when i got my back ups pro last year the cable was grey(forgot the cable id number), took weeks tryin to get it to work to no avail. turns out it was the wrong kind of cable for unix clients. apc sent me a new cable for free. very odd since i could get PowerChute to work in vmware in linux but i could not get the linux version to work. if you got the wrong kind of cable save yerself a lotta trouble and get them to send u a good one. nate Felipe Alvarez Harnecker wrote: Hi, can anyone send advice on software and configuration for this thing? I've tried apcd without success. I'got the shipped cable and really DON'T want to make a custom one. Thanx -- __ Felipe Alvarez Harnecker. QlSoftware. Tel. 09.874.60.17 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Potenciado por Debian GNU/Linux http://www.qlsoft.cl/ __ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: `Best Power' general comments (http://www.bestpower.com) - manufacturer has `free' Linux software which may be packaged for Debian soon (All I have found in the source are lines like: CheckUPS II BASIC V3.23Copyright (c)1985-99 by Best Power, All Rights Reserved. They'll need to clarify this). Both the dumb and smart models listed below use the same software download, which supports both `basic' and `advanced' programs for dumb and smart UPS. - bpowerd Debian pacakge does not currently support the INT-0051 cable packaged by Best Power for all OSes Just to throw my two cents in, the Best Fortress line of UPS fully support Linux with included/downloadable software. I set two of these up at work, one for a PII running RH4.2. Just downloaded the UNIX checkups software, and compilied the included c source code, and it works great. It communicates with the UPS, pulls a decent amount of information from it, and can intelligently handling power events (via a resident daemons and a few custimizable shell scripts and logging capablities). They might be a bit more than the average linux user might need, but when you have more than 1-2 boxes, or are in a production environment, I would highly recommend them. Also, go to www.buy.com for excellent prices on them (40-45% of list), and decent shipping (for huge, heavy UPS :). No, I don't work for them, just a recent, happy customer. :) | For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. | |--- Philippians 1:21 (KJV)| | Ryan Kirkpatrick | Boulder, Colorado | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www-ugrad.cs.colorado.edu/~rkirkpat/|
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Thanks for the info. The UNIX checkups software you mention is the same that might get packaged for Debian, depending on the license I presume. Even if it didn't get packaged, it would be nice to have the .dsc and .diff.gz files such that one could download checkups, apply the diff and build a proper Debian package. Peter Ryan Kirkpatrick wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: `Best Power' general comments (http://www.bestpower.com) - manufacturer has `free' Linux software which may be packaged for Debian soon (All I have found in the source are lines like: CheckUPS II BASIC V3.23Copyright (c)1985-99 by Best Power, All Rights Reserved. They'll need to clarify this). Both the dumb and smart models listed below use the same software download, which supports both `basic' and `advanced' programs for dumb and smart UPS. - bpowerd Debian pacakge does not currently support the INT-0051 cable packaged by Best Power for all OSes Just to throw my two cents in, the Best Fortress line of UPS fully support Linux with included/downloadable software. I set two of these up at work, one for a PII running RH4.2. Just downloaded the UNIX checkups software, and compilied the included c source code, and it works great. It communicates with the UPS, pulls a decent amount of information from it, and can intelligently handling power events (via a resident daemons and a few custimizable shell scripts and logging capablities). They might be a bit more than the average linux user might need, but when you have more than 1-2 boxes, or are in a production environment, I would highly recommend them. Also, go to www.buy.com for excellent prices on them (40-45% of list), and decent shipping (for huge, heavy UPS :). No, I don't work for them, just a recent, happy customer. :) | For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. | |--- Philippians 1:21 (KJV)| | Ryan Kirkpatrick | Boulder, Colorado | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www-ugrad.cs.colorado.edu/~rkirkpat/|
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On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 11:34:35AM -0600, Gary L. Hennigan wrote Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Unresolved questions: - What do we get for smart mode? I presume more info about the state of the UPS and the line condition gets to the user software. But can the Linux software display it? If you get the APC Back-UPS pro and use apcupsd in smart mode it can. The main advantage is that it can get an estimate of how long your system can run on the battery from the UPS. In dumb mode most of the UPS software immediately shuts down a system when a power outage is detected. In smart mode, with the right software, the system will stay up until the battery gets low. One thing you *don't* seem to get with vendor-supplied stuff is support for multiple workstations on one UPS, as you get with upsd. Is that changing? John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
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John Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 11:34:35AM -0600, Gary L. Hennigan wrote Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Unresolved questions: - What do we get for smart mode? I presume more info about the state of the UPS and the line condition gets to the user software. But can the Linux software display it? If you get the APC Back-UPS pro and use apcupsd in smart mode it can. The main advantage is that it can get an estimate of how long your system can run on the battery from the UPS. In dumb mode most of the UPS software immediately shuts down a system when a power outage is detected. In smart mode, with the right software, the system will stay up until the battery gets low. One thing you *don't* seem to get with vendor-supplied stuff is support for multiple workstations on one UPS, as you get with upsd. Is that changing? Just FYI, apcupsd is not a vendor-supplied product and it handles multiple Linux computers attached to it quite nicely. I have two machines hooked up to it and while it hasn't had to operate yet, I tested it and it shut both machines down just fine. Gary
[Summary] UPS anyone?
Here's another update about what I have so far concerning this confusing UPS issue (prices in Canadian dollars). Thanks to all who contributed. Please email again if you have more info to add. Peter --- `Best Power' general comments (http://www.bestpower.com) - manufacturer has `free' Linux software which may be packaged for Debian soon (All I have found in the source are lines like: CheckUPS II BASIC V3.23Copyright (c)1985-99 by Best Power, All Rights Reserved. They'll need to clarify this). Both the dumb and smart models listed below use the same software download, which supports both `basic' and `advanced' programs for dumb and smart UPS. - bpowerd Debian pacakge does not currently support the INT-0051 cable packaged by Best Power for all OSes - The Patriot Pro II hat comes with cable seems to be the much better deal from Best Power: Best Power Patriot $219 + $52 for INT-0051 cable 250VA dumb mode (looks like a big power bar instead of a UPS) Best Power Patriot Pro II$304 (includes cable) 400VA smart mode Best Power Patriot Pro II$408 (includes cable) 750VA smart mode See web site for other models. --- APC general comments (http://www.apcc.com/) - No manufacturer Linux software, but announced for Q3-99. - They have a Back-UPS line which appear to be dumb-mode only, and a more expensive Back-UPS Pro line (smart mode). - Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a Back-UPS Pro and it works with the genpower Debian package and the apc-pnp cable: `All models of APC from the Back-UPS Pro to the Matrix-UPS have the same interface and will work with the custom apc-advanced (which I designed) or the apc-pnp (standard cable from APC) cables. Both cables have the same dumb-signalling abilities but obviously the apc-pnp cable also supports the smart-signalling modes.' - The debian apcupsd package mentions all Back-UPS (dumb mode), Back-UPS Pro and Smart-UPS (both in smart mode), so it's a safe bet that they all work with this package. APC Back-UPS BK500M $199 + $40 for cable kit. 330 W dumb mode APC Back-UPS BK650M $335 + $40 for cable kit. 400 W dumb mode APC Back-UPS Pro 420 $397 (cable included?) 260 W smart mode APC Smart-UPS 420$417 (cable included?) 260 W smart mode See web site for other models. --- CyberPower general comments http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/ I only very recently discovered this company. I emailed them concerning Linux support and quickly exchanged about 10 emails with a very nice and helpful guy from the company. Their models all come with cable and Windows software. They pointed me to Linux software on the net written by Alberto Maria Segre from the University of Iowa. I have contacted him about making his software DFSG-free (currently educational purposes only) and he is very responsive about this. I will package it if I buy a CyberPower unit and the license changes. The units look somewhat like power bars. Power 99/500VA PnP US$89 at www.outpost.com Power99/720VA PnP US$99 at www.outpost.com CDN$230 at Future Shop stores (why so much more?) --- To me, the CyberPower look pretty affordable, and the quick response from the company was impressive. I also like the Best Power Patriot Pro II 400 VA. It comes with Linux software direct from the company, and we can at least make an unofficial package from .dsc and .diff files if the license forbids us packaging it. Unresolved questions: - What do we get for smart mode? I presume more info about the state of the UPS and the line condition gets to the user software. But can the Linux software display it? -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/
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Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Unresolved questions: - What do we get for smart mode? I presume more info about the state of the UPS and the line condition gets to the user software. But can the Linux software display it? If you get the APC Back-UPS pro and use apcupsd in smart mode it can. The main advantage is that it can get an estimate of how long your system can run on the battery from the UPS. In dumb mode most of the UPS software immediately shuts down a system when a power outage is detected. In smart mode, with the right software, the system will stay up until the battery gets low. Here's the output of apcaccess status on my system (apcaccess is part of the apcupsd package): APC : Aug 17 11:21:25 CABLE: APC Cable 940-0095A UPSMODEL : BACK-UPS PRO 650 UPSMODE : Net Master SHARE: NetworkUPS UPSNAME : ULINE: 118.0 Volts MLINE: 118.0 Volts NLINE: 118.0 Volts FLINE: 60.0 Hz VOUTP: 118.0 Volts LOUTP: 042.9 Load Capacity BOUTP: 13.8 Volts BCHAR: 100.0 Batt. Charge TIME : 18.0 Minutes SENSE: HIGH WAKEUP : 060 Cycles SLEEP: 020 Cycles LOTRANS : 002.0 Volts HITRANS : 002.0 Volts CHARGE : 003.0 Percent BFAIL: 0x08 Status Flag ALARM: Always LASTEVNT : SELF TEST LOWBATT : 02 Minutes So, my system can run for an estimated 18 minutes if the power fails. I have it set so that a shutdown will be performed when either BCHAR drops below 10% or TIME drops below 10 minutes (this is something you can configure yourself). The other quantities that are neat to know about, but not critical, are the maximum, minimum and current line voltages (MLINE, NLINE and ULINE, respectively), and the load capacity (LOUTP). Again, it's interesting to see these values, but not really a necessity to save your system when the power goes out. Gary
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hi ya I have a few dead UPS... ( bad battery ) I changed the powersupply to be +24v-DC input instead of 110v-ac I use 2 car batteries...and pulled the 110vac... it stayed up for about 15 hrs.. - with 1 IDE disk...-- just sitting there and running cron every 10 minutes to log how long it ran have fun alvin Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Unresolved questions: - What do we get for smart mode? I presume more info about the state of the UPS and the line condition gets to the user software. But can the Linux software display it? If you get the APC Back-UPS pro and use apcupsd in smart mode it can. The main advantage is that it can get an estimate of how long your system can run on the battery from the UPS. In dumb mode most of the UPS software immediately shuts down a system when a power outage is detected. In smart mode, with the right software, the system will stay up until the battery gets low. Here's the output of apcaccess status on my system (apcaccess is part of the apcupsd package): APC : Aug 17 11:21:25 CABLE: APC Cable 940-0095A UPSMODEL : BACK-UPS PRO 650 UPSMODE : Net Master SHARE: NetworkUPS UPSNAME : ULINE: 118.0 Volts MLINE: 118.0 Volts NLINE: 118.0 Volts FLINE: 60.0 Hz VOUTP: 118.0 Volts LOUTP: 042.9 Load Capacity BOUTP: 13.8 Volts BCHAR: 100.0 Batt. Charge TIME : 18.0 Minutes SENSE: HIGH WAKEUP : 060 Cycles SLEEP: 020 Cycles LOTRANS : 002.0 Volts HITRANS : 002.0 Volts CHARGE : 003.0 Percent BFAIL: 0x08 Status Flag ALARM: Always LASTEVNT : SELF TEST LOWBATT : 02 Minutes So, my system can run for an estimated 18 minutes if the power fails. I have it set so that a shutdown will be performed when either BCHAR drops below 10% or TIME drops below 10 minutes (this is something you can configure yourself). The other quantities that are neat to know about, but not critical, are the maximum, minimum and current line voltages (MLINE, NLINE and ULINE, respectively), and the load capacity (LOUTP). Again, it's interesting to see these values, but not really a necessity to save your system when the power goes out. Gary -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
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On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 01:57:01PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya I have a few dead UPS... ( bad battery ) I changed the powersupply to be +24v-DC input instead of 110v-ac I use 2 car batteries...and pulled the 110vac... it stayed up for about 15 hrs.. - with 1 IDE disk...-- just sitting there and running cron every 10 minutes to log how long it ran That'll work, but you have to be careful. The main problem with lead-acid batteries is that they produce explosive gasses when they charge. Keep the area well ventilated. It'll also tend to cause corrosion on surrounding equipment. It's much safer to use gel-cells. Mike [Private mail welcome, but no need to CC: me on list replies.] -- Michael Merten [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Debian GNU/Linux Fan -- http://www.debian.org --- CenLA-LUG Founder -- http://www.angelfire.com/la2/cenlalug -- The only intuitive interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned. -- Bruce Ediger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on X interfaces
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hi ya mike I changed the powersupply to be +24v-DC input instead of 110v-ac I use 2 car batteries...and pulled the 110vac... it stayed up for about 15 hrs.. - with 1 IDE disk...-- just sitting there and running cron every 10 minutes to log how long it ran That'll work, but you have to be careful. The main problem with lead-acid batteries is that they produce explosive gasses when they charge. Keep the area well ventilated. It'll also tend to cause corrosion on surrounding equipment. It's much safer to use gel-cells. yes...except gelcell batteries are just as expensive as a whole new UPS... and those things are only good for 10-20 minutes or there abouts... the experiment was: How long is a car battery good for - now the problem is how to keep the batteries properly charged - and yes...about ventelation and stuff... ( batteries in an outdoor shed or a generator ?? ..hummm) - for those that don't want a generator...what's their options ? $ 30x2 car batteries + $40x2 battery charger == 15 hours of backup... not too bad... - plus $170 for a off-the-shelf 24v-dc input powersupply have fun linuxing alvin
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Just purchased an APC Smart-UPS 620 (APC model SU620NET) I'm running Debian slink, pretty generic system. My specific setup has the APC-supplied cable on /dev/ttyS2 and uses the apcd package. I did set the port's IRQ to 0 with setserial; my system board shares the IRQ on its two ports, and the mouse on /dev/ttyS0 gets slightly sluggish. Though when I was testing genpower it was completely unuseable! Also having an interrupt shared on the UPS's port seems to affect the logging. The daemon write one line to its logfile approx. every 30 seconds with the interrupt disabled, but with the interrupt shared, the mouse usage seemed to prevent the daemon from polling the UPS. The only thing untested AFAIK is actually cutting line power long enough to initiate a shutdown, and to time the UPS under full load. I'm intending to run three fairly low-power machines off it eventually. So far so good. I have no way of testing if the serial port needs the IRQ disabled with setserial in the general case. I'd do it anyway, though. : I'll post an update in a few days to a week or so. On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Here's what I have so far concerning this confusing UPS issue (prices in Canadian dollars). Thanks to all who contributed. Please email again if you have more info to add. Peter --- `Best Power' general comments (http://www.bestpower.com) [snip] APC general comments (http://www.apcc.com/) - No manufacturer Linux software, but announced for Q3-99. - They have a Back-UPS line which appear to be dumb-mode only, and a more expensive Back-UPS Pro line (smart mode). - Kenneth Scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] says the debian upsd package works quite well with their ups's in dumb mode. However he uses an older Back-ups 400 (not sold anymore) and I think he made his own cable (?). Do we have to make a cable to use upsd? - Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a Back-UPS Pro and it works with the genpower Debian package and the apc-pnp cable. He doesn't think the Back-UPS works with apcd (no smart signalling) or with standard genpower (different cable signals) but he says he could be wrong. APC Back-UPS BK500M $219 (Don't know if cable is included) 330 W dumb mode APC Back-UPS BK650M $335 (Don't know if cable is included) 400 W dumb mode - [EMAIL PROTECTED] can't get his Back-UPS 650 running under Debian apcd package (confirms what Brian White says). APC Back-UPS Pro 420 $397 260 W smart mode APC Smart-UPS 420$417 260 W smart mode See web site for other models. --- Unresolved issues: [snip] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBN7UC6NZwc6w4vgodAQHGwwf8CUt4c6l7P3TIrRe0V3EclDCDI6ZO/zws bIVQUZsMQeiCXRhGN2asJCdA2t1te0ZerXaYfsQR9l/mWlHEnbBJGk/ZiCEnlv6E HFdA1V5OY+YA4nKkMi7XStVH2PnHdJ55CIWXkOEbBLFKNKSN2rh7fvUGPd5LID81 zLYgEFh8DzK9Ig3mfWbJKruM6OxCPtejvvJoRQDQ004Pz3Ll7pii4sVCSYXr03sx BUpwc6zfjh6NQBdncTDPQCqp4K5wUS6aoQ4Ii7GAc4HQBgf5Bgd4240KIBXnlKYa 0HnawrAly7Hnz4aeyGTrT8QtEta0f89v6/OaYM3gweg+/JTri0fVbg== =atGJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Here's what I have so far concerning this confusing UPS issue (prices in Canadian dollars). Thanks to all who contributed. Please email again if you have more info to add. Peter --- `Best Power' general comments (http://www.bestpower.com) - manufacturer has `free' Linux software which may be packaged for Debian soon (All I have found in the source are lines like: CheckUPS II BASIC V3.23Copyright (c)1985-99 by Best Power, All Rights Reserved. They'll need to clarify this). Both the dumb and smart models listed below use the same software download, which supports both `basic' and `advanced' programs for dumb and smart UPS. - bpowerd Debian pacakge does not currently support the INT-0051 cable The info listed in the bpowerd package concerning the INT-0027 cable appears to be obsolete; I infer that Best Power now use the single INT-0051 cable for all OSes; I sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to confirm this cabling issue and have not had a reply. However the source code to the manufacturer's checkUPS program says: Enhancements V2.0: * Complete rewrite to support INT-0051 INT-0027 cable!!! So I guess either cable is fine. Best Power Patriot $219 + $52 for INT-0051 cable 285 W dumb mode Only model that looks like a big power bar instead of a UPS! Best Power Patriot Pro $363 (includes cable) 250 W smart mode See web site for other models. --- APC general comments (http://www.apcc.com/) - No manufacturer Linux software, but announced for Q3-99. - They have a Back-UPS line which appear to be dumb-mode only, and a more expensive Back-UPS Pro line (smart mode). - Kenneth Scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] says the debian upsd package works quite well with their ups's in dumb mode. However he uses an older Back-ups 400 (not sold anymore) and I think he made his own cable (?). Do we have to make a cable to use upsd? - Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a Back-UPS Pro and it works with the genpower Debian package and the apc-pnp cable. He doesn't think the Back-UPS works with apcd (no smart signalling) or with standard genpower (different cable signals) but he says he could be wrong. APC Back-UPS BK500M $219 (Don't know if cable is included) 330 W dumb mode APC Back-UPS BK650M $335 (Don't know if cable is included) 400 W dumb mode - [EMAIL PROTECTED] can't get his Back-UPS 650 running under Debian apcd package (confirms what Brian White says). APC Back-UPS Pro 420 $397 260 W smart mode APC Smart-UPS 420$417 260 W smart mode See web site for other models. --- Unresolved issues: - Do APC Back-UPS 500 and 600 work with upsd? - Do APC Back-UPS 500 and 600 include a cable? - Do we have to make our own cable, or can we get one that works with upsd from APC? - Do we really want `smart' for $100 more with `Best Power'?
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APC general comments (http://www.apcc.com/) - Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a Back-UPS Pro and it works with the genpower Debian package and the apc-pnp cable. He doesn't think the Back-UPS works with apcd (no smart signalling) or with standard genpower (different cable signals) but he says he could be wrong. All models of APC from the Back-UPS Pro to the Matrix-UPS have the same interface and will work with the custom apc-advanced (which I designed) or the apc-pnp (standard cable from APC) cables. Both cables have the same dumb-signalling abilities but obviously the apc-pnp cable also supports the smart-signalling modes. One further note: The APC UPSs default to dumb-signalling on power-up but retain whatever state they were last put in until they are next power cycled. Thus, if you have a dual-boot system with windows and use the standard APC software, when you boot back to linux, genpower won't be able to talk dumb-signal to the UPS. If you write an R to the serial port it will go back to dumb-signalling, but my quick attempts to write a program to do such failed. I believe apcd require the older black smart-signalling cable to work, but could be wrong. APC units used to come with both cables, but newer ones may only come with the Plug'n'Play cable. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Sticks and stones may break bones, but words will shatter the soul.
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- Kenneth Scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] says the debian upsd package works quite well with their ups's in dumb mode. However he uses an older Back-ups 400 (not sold anymore) and I think he made his own cable (?). Do we have to make a cable to use upsd? I made my own cable as per the doc's in upsd because I bought the UPS used and it did not come with the cable. Making a cable is no big deal, two connectors and two resistors (from any radio shack), and 4 wires. (Not hard if you know how to solder without burning yourself). I havn't looked at any of the other packages you mentioned (maybe I should) but upsd does get the job done with my castoff ups's. === Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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And who can tell me how to get the APC Back-UPS 650 running.. APCd for smart ups's doesn't work.. what else do I need? -Original Message- From: Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Users Mailing List debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, 17 June 1999 5:19 Subject: UPS anyone? I want to put a small UPS on my work system to let it shutdown gracefully when there's a power outage. I'm looking at: Best Power Patriot Best Power Patriot Pro APC Back-UPS BK500M APC Back-UPS BK650M Anyone have any recommendations? Does any of them work `easily' with Debian packages (e.g. using stock cables)? The Debain packages I know of are genpower, bpowerd, apcd and upsd. It'll take a while to look at them all since they mostly congflict with eachother (for obvious reasons). Thanks, Peter -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
UPS anyone?
I want to put a small UPS on my work system to let it shutdown gracefully when there's a power outage. I'm looking at: Best Power Patriot Best Power Patriot Pro APC Back-UPS BK500M APC Back-UPS BK650M Anyone have any recommendations? Does any of them work `easily' with Debian packages (e.g. using stock cables)? The Debain packages I know of are genpower, bpowerd, apcd and upsd. It'll take a while to look at them all since they mostly congflict with eachother (for obvious reasons). Thanks, Peter
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Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to put a small UPS on my work system to let it shutdown gracefully when there's a power outage. I'm looking at: Best Power Patriot Best Power Patriot Pro APC Back-UPS BK500M APC Back-UPS BK650M Anyone have any recommendations? Does any of them work `easily' with Debian packages (e.g. using stock cables)? The Debain packages I know of are genpower, bpowerd, apcd and upsd. It'll take a while to look at them all since they mostly congflict with eachother (for obvious reasons). Last time I looked into this APC was very bad about supplying developers with their specs and the protocol they used for communication between the UPS and the PC. On the other hand Best supplied Unix drivers, with source code, right out of the box, and was gladly supplying any information requested by programmers. Of course this was about a year ago so things my have changed, but Best certainly seemed like the Best decision at the time. Gary
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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I want to put a small UPS on my work system to let it shutdown gracefully when there's a power outage. I'm looking at: Best Power Patriot Best Power Patriot Pro These people have historically shown much more enthusiasm for Linux support than APC. Beyond that, I'm afraid I dunno. Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248)377-7735[EMAIL PROTECTED] Modern inductive method: 1) Devise hypothesis. 2) Apply for grant. 3) Perform experiments. 4) Revise data to fit hypothesis. 5) Publish.
Re: UPS anyone?
Peter S Galbraith wrote: I want to put a small UPS on my work system to let it shutdown gracefully when there's a power outage. I'm looking at: Best Power Patriot Best Power Patriot Pro APC Back-UPS BK500M APC Back-UPS BK650M Anyone have any recommendations? Does any of them work `easily' with Debian packages (e.g. using stock cables)? The Debain packages I know of are genpower, bpowerd, apcd and upsd. It'll take a while to look at them all since they mostly conflict with eachother (for obvious reasons). Do you know if bpowerd works with the newer Patriot Pro? I don't have a Patriot Pro, but if the pinout is the same, then it should work. Also, I can't find the cable INT-0027A on their web page. I do find INT-0027 (basic cable for the CheckUPS II Suite for UNIX, AIX, SCO and HP-UX). Is that what I want? My supplier can get it for CDN$52, although he thinks I need INT-0051 (for Windows). Should I get a Patriot or a Patriot Pro, in your experience? I would avoid Patriot at this point. Since I packaged bpowerd, Best has stopped supplying cables for free with their UPS's. If you want a cable, expect to pay $50 to Best. (They used to supply the cables for free with the UPS) Also, bpowerd does not support the INT-0051, which is the only cable Best (now) supports for Windows. I have the beginnings of a cable auto-detect and support for INT-0051, but I haven't finished because the Real World(tm) keeps getting in the way. Also, out of my 3 Patriots that I have owned for the past year, one has died. All in all, I am underwhelmed by Best Power. -Mitch
Re: Opti-UPS anyone?
I recently had a brief power failure, didn't lose any data whatsoever, and decided that my Linux box has had its free-bee... I read reviews, checked the HOWTO's, searched the web, and this is what I know thus far: APC seems to have the name brand recognition, but they are not Linux-friendly (though there has been a lot of reverse-engineering). BEST and TrippLite get nice marks, but not too common in stores. They are mentioned in HOWTO I read, but only very briefly. Opti-UPS gets great reviews in the general press, but no connection (that I have found, HOWTO's or otherwise) between any Linux users and that brand of UPS. Does anyone know anything about the Opti-UPS's? I sent mail to their tech support today asking if they support Linux in any way, but I would like to know if anyone has any experience with them. I'm leaning toward that one based on price, good reviews, anice warranty, and the fact that it is line-interactive. BUT, I have no experience with UPS's. If they don't support Linux, and I don't hear anything favorable, I might have to go with APC Thanks for any input. Hi! Check out www.fiskarsups.com . They have control-software for Linux and I've been really happy with their hardware in the past. I don't know if they are sold in where you live, though. --j -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Opti-UPS anyone?
I recently had a brief power failure, didn't lose any data whatsoever, and decided that my Linux box has had its free-bee... I read reviews, checked the HOWTO's, searched the web, and this is what I know thus far: APC seems to have the name brand recognition, but they are not Linux-friendly (though there has been a lot of reverse-engineering). BEST and TrippLite get nice marks, but not too common in stores. They are mentioned in HOWTO I read, but only very briefly. Opti-UPS gets great reviews in the general press, but no connection (that I have found, HOWTO's or otherwise) between any Linux users and that brand of UPS. Does anyone know anything about the Opti-UPS's? I sent mail to their tech support today asking if they support Linux in any way, but I would like to know if anyone has any experience with them. I'm leaning toward that one based on price, good reviews, anice warranty, and the fact that it is line-interactive. BUT, I have no experience with UPS's. If they don't support Linux, and I don't hear anything favorable, I might have to go with APC Thanks for any input. -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Opti-UPS anyone?
Dan Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BEST and TrippLite get nice marks, but not too common in stores. They are mentioned in HOWTO I read, but only very briefly. Go with a Best Power, IMHO. The one sitting on top of my computer is great. It's compact, light (for a UPS), no-hassle, and Linux compatible. Mail order if you have to. -- Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail will receive free 32MB core files! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Opti-UPS anyone?
Dan Hugo wrote: Opti-UPS gets great reviews in the general press, but no connection (that I have found, HOWTO's or otherwise) between any Linux users and that brand of UPS. Does anyone know anything about the Opti-UPS's? I sent mail to their tech support today asking if they support Linux in any way, but I would like to know if anyone has any experience with them. About a year ago we converted an NT box to Linux (yippee!) but had to toss the Opti-UPS that was attached to it. Opti-UPS's only have a smart signalling mode. Most all linux ups software can only use the dumb signalling mode. This is of course because every company (stupidly IMHO) keeps the specs for their smart signalling modes proprietary. The only smart signalling mode linux ups monitoring daemon I know of is apcd (which is a debian package), but it only works with APC UPSs (but I think only with certain APCs). The smart signalling mode was reverse engineered by it's author. I've never used it so I can't vouch for it. All the computers here use APC UPS's (and the debian package genpower) and they work just great with Linux. APC UPS's are little more expensive, but IMO are worth it. Behan -- Behan Webster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-613-224-7547 http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Opti-UPS anyone?
Re: UPSs APC seems to have the name brand recognition, but they are not Linux-friendly (though there has been a lot of reverse-engineering). BEST and TrippLite get nice marks, but not too common in stores. They are mentioned in HOWTO I read, but only very briefly. Opti-UPS gets great reviews in the general press, but no connection I remember that Jerry Pournelle (in his _Byte_ column) has recommended Clary UPSs very highly. -- Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
