Re-partitioning -- uh oh, I'm confused
Hi all, I have a machine running Debian Woody. There's one 120GB hard drive, /dev/hda. When I installed Debian a few months ago, I split the disk into two 60GB partitions. I figured that I'd install another OS in the second partition. I never did. Now, I want to recombine the partitions into one, big chunk. This would be a pretty straightforward use of parted, I assume, but here's the rub: For some reason, the Debian installer put / on /dev/hda1 and /usr on /dev/hda3. If I just delete /dev/hda3, I'll destroy /usr, right? That, I presume, would be bad. So how to I handle this? Can I just mount /usr on /dev/hda1, then delete /dev/hda3? Or is my /usr data on /dev/hda3? I guess I just don't understand partitioning that well and I'm confused. Any suggestions? Here's the disk layout: machine1:~# df Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 57677500 45016936 9730712 83% / /dev/hda3 56720252618292 53220704 2% /usr (parted) print Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0.000-114473.460 megabytes Disk label type: msdos MinorStart End Type Filesystem Flags 1 0.031 57223.718 primary ext3 boot 2 57223.718 58196.403 primary linux-swap 3 58196.404 114470.969 primary ext3 And here's /etc/fstab: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/hda1 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda2 noneswapsw 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults 0 0 /dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda3 /usrext3defaults 0 2 Thanks, rc __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re-partitioning -- uh oh, I'm confused
hi ya ridge On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, Ridge Chittenden wrote: machine1:~# df Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 57677500 45016936 9730712 83% / /dev/hda3 56720252618292 53220704 2% /usr looks normal / is things like /boot /bin /lib /sbin and is /dev/hda1 in your case, which is fine /usr in your case is /dev/hda3 which is fine /home where you put all your stuff is alsoo under /dev/hda1 - i personally, consider that (a huge / ) bad, but for those that dont care about partitions and single user will not be bothered by it till / crashes which in this case is your /home stuff too /dev/hda1 / ext3 that is fine /dev/hda2 noneswapsw that is fine /dev/hda3 /usrext3defaults that is fine leave your system alone c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ridge Chittenden wrote: Hi all, I have a machine running Debian Woody. There's one 120GB hard drive, /dev/hda. When I installed Debian a few months ago, I split the disk into two 60GB partitions. I figured that I'd install another OS in the second partition. I never did. Now, I want to recombine the partitions into one, big chunk. This would be a pretty straightforward use of parted, I assume, but here's the rub: For some reason, the Debian installer put / on /dev/hda1 and /usr on /dev/hda3. If I just delete /dev/hda3, I'll destroy /usr, right? That, I presume, would be bad. So how to I handle this? Can I just mount /usr on /dev/hda1, then delete /dev/hda3? Or is my /usr data on /dev/hda3? I guess I just don't understand partitioning that well and I'm confused. Any suggestions? The installer apparently saw the two 60GB partitions and used them both; one for / and one for /usr. You'll need to copy the /usr files over to the first partition. # init 1 # umount /usr # mkdir /oldusr # mount /dev/hda3 /olduser # cp -a /olduser/* /usr # [edit /etc/fstab and comment out or delete the /dev/hda3 line] # init 2 That should be pretty close to what you need to do. If everything works properly, now you can erase /dev/hda3 and use it as you like. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ridge Chittenden wrote: Hi all, I have a machine running Debian Woody. There's one 120GB hard drive, /dev/hda. When I installed Debian a few months ago, I split the disk into two 60GB partitions. I figured that I'd install another OS in the second partition. I never did. Now, I want to recombine the partitions into one, big chunk. This would be a pretty straightforward use of parted, I assume, but here's the rub: For some reason, the Debian installer put / on /dev/hda1 and /usr on /dev/hda3. If I just delete /dev/hda3, I'll destroy /usr, right? That, I presume, would be bad. So how to I handle this? Can I just mount /usr on /dev/hda1, then delete /dev/hda3? Or is my /usr data on /dev/hda3? I guess I just don't understand partitioning that well and I'm confused. Any suggestions? The installer apparently saw the two 60GB partitions and used them both; one for / and one for /usr. You'll need to copy the /usr files over to the first partition. # init 1 # umount /usr # mkdir /oldusr # mount /dev/hda3 /olduser # cp -a /olduser/* /usr # [edit /etc/fstab and comment out or delete the /dev/hda3 line] # init 2 Thanks Kent. This looks like what I need to do. A quick question: What's the reason for going into single-user mode? I ask because this machine has neither keyboard nor monitor, and I usually ssh into it. init 1 drops my ssh connection. (Thinking out loud: Perhaps this is a good time to boot with a live CD--assuming it enables sshd--since I expect I'll need to not be running off /dev/hda at all to edit the partition table...) rc __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ridge Chittenden wrote: --- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ridge Chittenden wrote: Now, I want to recombine the partitions into one, big chunk. This would be a pretty straightforward use of parted, I assume, but here's the rub: For some reason, the Debian installer put / on /dev/hda1 and /usr on /dev/hda3. If I just delete /dev/hda3, I'll destroy /usr, right? That, I presume, would be bad. So how to I handle this? The installer apparently saw the two 60GB partitions and used them both; one for / and one for /usr. You'll need to copy the /usr files over to the first partition. # init 1 # umount /usr # mkdir /oldusr # mount /dev/hda3 /olduser # cp -a /olduser/* /usr # [edit /etc/fstab and comment out or delete the /dev/hda3 line] # init 2 Thanks Kent. This looks like what I need to do. A quick question: What's the reason for going into single-user mode? So that no files on /usr are in use. You won't be able to unmount /usr otherwise. I ask because this machine has neither keyboard nor monitor, and I usually ssh into it. init 1 drops my ssh connection. (Thinking out loud: Perhaps this is a good time to boot with a live CD--assuming it enables sshd--since I expect I'll need to not be running off /dev/hda at all to edit the partition table...) That should be a workable solution. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 09:17:33PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 07:57:08AM -0500, cecil wrote: cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil Maybe I should get a different laptop? Is a 150 mhz machine with 2 gig hd and 32 meg ram going to be able to do the job? I'm worried now. Hi Cecil, I have a libretto 110: p1-166 32mb ram, 10gb (up from 2gb). I have X with windowmaker running with mozilla-fire$PICK_ONE. Its not a speed deamon but it works. Sounds like you'll be doing non-gui progamming anyway unless this is some upper level class. most beginning classes in pascal,fortran,c,c++, etc. use stdout, not gui stuff. At most, the program may use a generic gui output method to simulate a console. Maybe you teacher will ok you submitting a text file dump and not the fancy screen shot. And if you _really_ want a window manager that looks like you're operating on the console apart from graphical output from time to time, use ion (or ion-devel). I used that on my old laptop when I was tired of waiting for gnome etc. and didn't want to be distracted from my thesis work at all. If I _did_ want to be distracted, I used windowmaker with some nice dockapps. Looks just fine! David -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
David Fokkema wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 09:17:33PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 07:57:08AM -0500, cecil wrote: cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil Maybe I should get a different laptop? Is a 150 mhz machine with 2 gig hd and 32 meg ram going to be able to do the job? I'm worried now. Hi Cecil, I have a libretto 110: p1-166 32mb ram, 10gb (up from 2gb). I have X with windowmaker running with mozilla-fire$PICK_ONE. Its not a speed deamon but it works. Sounds like you'll be doing non-gui progamming anyway unless this is some upper level class. most beginning classes in pascal,fortran,c,c++, etc. use stdout, not gui stuff. At most, the program may use a generic gui output method to simulate a console. Maybe you teacher will ok you submitting a text file dump and not the fancy screen shot. And if you _really_ want a window manager that looks like you're operating on the console apart from graphical output from time to time, use ion (or ion-devel). I used that on my old laptop when I was tired of waiting for gnome etc. and didn't want to be distracted from my thesis work at all. If I _did_ want to be distracted, I used windowmaker with some nice dockapps. Looks just fine! David WindowMaker is surprisingly lightweight and high performing. If you have to go 'X' then this might be the best option. IIRC it uses 4MB of memory footprint. Probably better than fvwm but I'm not sure about twm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 12:11:47PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 09:17:33PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 07:57:08AM -0500, cecil wrote: cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil Maybe I should get a different laptop? Is a 150 mhz machine with 2 gig hd and 32 meg ram going to be able to do the job? I'm worried now. Hi Cecil, I have a libretto 110: p1-166 32mb ram, 10gb (up from 2gb). I have X with windowmaker running with mozilla-fire$PICK_ONE. Its not a speed deamon but it works. Sounds like you'll be doing non-gui progamming anyway unless this is some upper level class. most beginning classes in pascal,fortran,c,c++, etc. use stdout, not gui stuff. At most, the program may use a generic gui output method to simulate a console. Maybe you teacher will ok you submitting a text file dump and not the fancy screen shot. And if you _really_ want a window manager that looks like you're operating on the console apart from graphical output from time to time, use ion (or ion-devel). I used that on my old laptop when I was tired of waiting for gnome etc. and didn't want to be distracted from my thesis There is also ratpoison which is very light if you are into those kinds of window managers. work at all. If I _did_ want to be distracted, I used windowmaker with some nice dockapps. Looks just fine! David -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System at the Tel-Aviv University CC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 07:50:20AM -0500, cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil With the replies so far, I guess you now know that X will run on your machine. Knoppix might have troubles, though, because its autoconfiguration may be designed for a larger machine (it reserves a 10 megabyte RAMdisk, for example, and thst's a *lot* of your RAM, and may no longer have space for X. As for minimal X, I once (ten or fifteen years ago) used an X terminal with only 8 meg of RAM. It worked fine, though all my applications and even the window manager had to run on another machine! May I recommend abiword? It will also generate word files, and it's a good deal smaller than OpenOffice. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 01:06:51PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 07:50:20AM -0500, cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil With the replies so far, I guess you now know that X will run on your machine. Knoppix might have troubles, though, because its autoconfiguration may be designed for a larger machine (it reserves a 10 megabyte RAMdisk, for example, and thst's a *lot* of your RAM, and may no longer have space for X. Most modern desktops and live cds, including knoppix and friends won't run on that machine and it will probably take some time to set up, but I also ran linux originally with X and fvwm on a 486 and a 1GB HD. startoffice 5 (what is now openoffice) ran on it at the time, but was _very_ slow, so openoffice will probably be a problem. Mozilla probably won't like it too much either since its a resource hog, but there are lighter variants (firefox maybe, epiphany probably). As for minimal X, I once (ten or fifteen years ago) used an X terminal with only 8 meg of RAM. It worked fine, though all my applications and even the window manager had to run on another machine! May I recommend abiword? It will also generate word files, and it's a good deal smaller than OpenOffice. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System at the Tel-Aviv University CC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OpenOffice.org I have to write Word documents at work on a semi-daily basis for those technically impared and I've yet to have a problem where Openoffice wouldn't work. (Well, MS Project isn't covered but Excel and .doc are just great). Robert Thus spake cecil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] :wq! --- Robert L. Harris | GPG Key ID: E344DA3B @ x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. With Dreams To Be A King First One Should Be A Man - Manowar signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil And on top of that, I read further, and I need to submit also a screen shot of the running program. Is there anyway to do all this stuff just in the console? I'm not fanatical, I can put on twm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil Maybe I should get a different laptop? Is a 150 mhz machine with 2 gig hd and 32 meg ram going to be able to do the job? I'm worried now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
If you're going to be running OpenOffice.org on it, then... hell yes. :| On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:57 pm, cecil wrote: cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil Maybe I should get a different laptop? Is a 150 mhz machine with 2 gig hd and 32 meg ram going to be able to do the job? I'm worried now. -- Cheers, Paul Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2004-06-27T08:51:50-0400, Robert L. Harris wrote: OpenOffice.org I have to write Word documents at work on a semi-daily basis for those technically impared and I've yet to have a problem where Openoffice wouldn't work. (Well, MS Project isn't covered but Excel and .doc are just great). Figures with caption (framed) are buthcered in the process, and there are some minor issues with export of special character symbols (or perhaps triggered via an import of word documents). Other than that, it has worked surprisingly well for me. /Allan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On 2004-06-27T07:55:06-0500, cecil wrote: And on top of that, I read further, and I need to submit also a screen shot of the running program. Is there anyway to do all this stuff just in the console? I'm not fanatical, I can put on twm. If you really mean console, redirect, cutpaste or use screen's hardcopy feature to get a text file. Convert that as need (for instance, enscript to get ps, imagemagick's convert to get whatever you need). If you mean xterm, then you can use imagemagick's import to take a screen shot (but there are a bunch of tools that can do this). /Allan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 08:51:50AM -0400, Robert L. Harris wrote: OpenOffice.org I have to write Word documents at work on a semi-daily basis for those technically impared and I've yet to have a problem where Openoffice wouldn't work. (Well, MS Project isn't covered but Excel and .doc are just great). Robert There are also several latex to rtf converters. You may lose some formating but it will open under word. Thus spake cecil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] :wq! --- Robert L. Harris | GPG Key ID: E344DA3B @ x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. With Dreams To Be A King First One Should Be A Man - Manowar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 07:55:06AM -0500, cecil wrote: cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil And on top of that, I read further, and I need to submit also a screen shot of the running program. Is there anyway to do all this stuff just in the console? I'm not fanatical, I can put on twm. You can either setup X, or if you don't need the graphics I think you can also cat /dev/tty0 or something similar to get a text version screen capture, don't remember the exact details, or if you run a frame buffer you can cat the frame biffer device into a file to get a graphics screen capture, not sure though how to convert it into a standard image format. Just catting it back into the frame buffer will put the image back on the screen though ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System at the Tel-Aviv University CC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
cecil writes: Maybe I should get a different laptop? I would suggest that you get a different professor, and perhaps a different university as well. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 10:57:52PM +1000, Paul Fraser wrote: If you're going to be running OpenOffice.org on it, then... hell yes. :| Or you could discuss this with your prof. MS Word can open a few formats (not many - MS don't want you using anything else...), but almost certainly enough for showing i/o of babygrammes. -- Mark Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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%% cecil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: c Maybe I should get a different laptop? Is a 150 mhz machine with 2 gig c hd and 32 meg ram going to be able to do the job? I'm worried now. I seriously doubt you'll be able to run Office with that amount of RAM... and even getting it installed (with the rest of Linux) in 2G will be tricky (but is probably doable with work). On the other hand, Windows is an even worse resource hog than Linux, and there's NO freakin' way you'll be able to get Windows (well, maybe Windows 3.1...) to run at all on that system, much less any of the Office products. So... -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] HASMAT--HA Software Mthds Tools Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional. --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Paul Smith wrote: On the other hand, Windows is an even worse resource hog than Linux, and there's NO freakin' way you'll be able to get Windows (well, maybe Windows 3.1...) to run at all on that system, much less any of the Office products. So... Oh come on. I've got an old Pentium 166 here with 32mb RAM that runs Windows 98 SE and Office 97 - not very fast, and best only 1 Office app at a time, but it works fine really. My dad used it for years and it got the job done. Also, you can easily fit that into say a 500mb partition, if that much can be spared on this guy's 2gb disk. I haven't been following the thread, but surely there are resources at the university that can be used anyway... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 11:00:06AM -0400, Paul Smith wrote: %% cecil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: c Maybe I should get a different laptop? Is a 150 mhz machine with 2 gig c hd and 32 meg ram going to be able to do the job? I'm worried now. I seriously doubt you'll be able to run Office with that amount of RAM... and even getting it installed (with the rest of Linux) in 2G will be tricky (but is probably doable with work). You absolutely WILL NOT be able to run OO on that system. It would be a small miracle if you were even able to get the Java VM alone to load on there. However, last I checked MS Word has no problem opening up regular old ASCII files. So unless you really NEED to be making charts and use curved text with all sorts of other bells and whistles, I see no reason that he shouldn't accept a plain old ASCII file. Just remember that since he's a Windows user you'll have to name it *.txt so that his system doesn't think it's an executable or who knows what else. As long as you're not going to be writing any extremely complex (i.e. heavy duty number-crunching) programs, that machine should be enough to develop on. For screenshots you can use one of the previously mentioned methods to get a screen capture of your console. If your prof won't accept that, you can install just plain-old X with an xterm and an X screen capture program and call it a day. I have run X with an xterm on a 133 with 24 MB of RAM without TOO much trouble. It's not nearly as snappy as my 2.4 GHz box, it works. :) Hope that helps. FWIW, having gotten my BS a month ago, I've found that most profs are willing to let you work in whatever environment you want as long as you do the work and as long as they're able to efficiently grade it. The only time this has been a problem with me was with a prof who wanted compiled binaries as part of the submitted assignment. For this I would run down to the lab, do a compile (and use their printer to print source, etc) and then go to class. Best of luck to you with your schooling and your laptop. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 07:50:20AM -0500, cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Since you're already thinking about LaTeX... Your professor is running windows and cares about file size. There is a very handy windows app which can read _all files_ which a linux app can generate, if that app can print to a file, as most (if not all) can. The de facto standard on un*x systems for printing files is postscript. Certainly with LaTeX it is _very_ easy to output these. The nice thing about postscript is that you can translate it to Adobe's Portable Data Format (PDF) and the windows program I'm talking about would be Adobe's Acrobat Reader. All my teachers in the last year and the entire school I teach are running windows, but I just convert everything to pdf and I'm all set. I would be very suprised if your professor wouldn't accept pdf. If he doesn't, I'd think about following John's suggestion. HTH, David -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:50:06 +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: There are also several latex to rtf converters. You may lose some formating but it will open under word. Specifically, it tends to bork on multiple tabular environments. -- Stephen Patterson http://patter.mine.nu/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] remove SPAM to reply Linux Counter No: 142831 GPG Public key: 252B8B37 Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
cecil wrote: cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Maybe I should get a different laptop? Is a 150 mhz machine with 2 gig hd and 32 meg ram going to be able to do the job? I'm worried now. There's nothing wrong with installing X. It's all Free, so use the best tool for the job. For many tasks I have nothing open but a single fullscreen terminal with no window decorations, but it is an xterm. For me, text in an xterm is faster, crisper, and at 1600x1200 is higher resolution than anything I can get on the console with my video card. I feel that I mentioned this a week or two ago when we were having a similar conversation on the list, but even if you were to use OpenOffice.org, whenever you need to turn in a .doc file converted from OOo (rather than a printed document), you are going to want to preview the .doc document on a machine running Windows, in genuine MS Word, and preferably the same version your instructor will be running. Either you will need to use a lab computer to do this, or use a friend's computer. Because if something doesn't work right, there are no excuses. You had access to a lab computer just like all the people who don't even have a personal computer, and you had access to the prescribed tools on those lab computers. Which operating system you will be running is going to be the least of your worries. You're _never_ going to get a higher grade because your completed assignment went through n esoteric conversions and was keyed in on a front panel. And if you have to worry about that, you are either going to need to spend that much more time on the assignment than everyone else, or you will be stressed and start to miss things. It is almost never worth accepting a lower grade because you did not use the prescribed tools for the job. CS has very little to do with learning how to operate any particular operating system. You will find many successful CS students who use only Windows, and the odds are that many of them will be smarter and more successful in school than you. It just doesn't matter that much. It really doesn't. Do something Linux or UNIX related at the hobbyist level, in school IT employment, or in an internship. I think you have 4 good options, which have already been covered: - Ask the professor whether you can turn in completed assignments in PDF format, and explain to him or her why you would prefer to. - Compose documents with LaTeX and convert to rtf. Then go to a lab machine and convert rtf to doc with MS Word, preview the doc file in MS Word and cocrrect any formatting issues, zip it, and turn it in (see packages latex2rtf and latex2rtf-doc). - Buy a slightly faster machine and from your campus computer or book store buy educational license copies of Windows 2000 and Office 2000 (or whatever). - Use a lab computer, and keep your machine for tinkering and other free-time pursuits, or for those assignments where it doesn't create more problems than are worth hassling with. Remember, even if you chose to buy a faster machine to run OpenOffice.org, at risk of getting a lower grade when it fails to open correctly or format just right, or display things in the right order, you will still need to go to a lab machine and preview the converted .doc file. And again, it is almost never worth taking that risk. dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
Don't believe all the nay sayers on the list. 6 years ago, on my first laptop, I ran Win95 and Office on a 486-DX 33 with 8MB RAM and 120MB HDD (that,s Meg not Gig). It's true that I eventually ended up using Hamm split onto the HDD and a 100Zip drive. I also have a Pentium 100 40MB RAM, 1.2GH HDD that will quite happily run Win98 and Office97. It is stuck in a cupboard now :) That said, I do think you would do better to follow the suggestion to print in ps and convert to pdf. Surely nobody runs Windows without Acrobat Reader? regards, Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh Oh... Prof requires ms word format
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 07:57:08AM -0500, cecil wrote: cecil wrote: I just looked on the upcoming syllubus for my CS class. The prof requires ms word format zipped files for the assignments. What do I do to do that on linux? I guess I HAVE to install X now. :( Cecil Maybe I should get a different laptop? Is a 150 mhz machine with 2 gig hd and 32 meg ram going to be able to do the job? I'm worried now. Hi Cecil, I have a libretto 110: p1-166 32mb ram, 10gb (up from 2gb). I have X with windowmaker running with mozilla-fire$PICK_ONE. Its not a speed deamon but it works. Sounds like you'll be doing non-gui progamming anyway unless this is some upper level class. most beginning classes in pascal,fortran,c,c++, etc. use stdout, not gui stuff. At most, the program may use a generic gui output method to simulate a console. Maybe you teacher will ok you submitting a text file dump and not the fancy screen shot. -Kev -- (__) (oo) /--\/ / ||| * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ Have you mooed today?... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Uh-Oh - boot problem
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 21:44:46 -0500, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 05:35:56PM -0800, Chris Cothrun wrote: Hi, My sid system won't boot. Kernel panic after a bunch of attempts to load modules. Output is something like: modprobe can't open dependancies file /lib/modules mount: you must specify filesystem type pivot_root: no such file or directory /sbin/init: cannot open /dev/console: no such file attempted to kill init kernel panic I think it is because apt-get upgraded my kernel, but I forgot to run lilo. Would that do it? I've got the Debian Woody install disk and I've tried booting my partitions from that but no luck, I get a kernel panic (but not the long list of module loading attempts). I can boot the install CD and get a console, any pointers on fixing things from here? I think I can mount the partition and then run lilo, right? Hi Chris, kernels are not deleted automatically. So, if you install another one, it is there still. If you have a GOOD LILO.CONF, the this will work. 1) get Knoppix 2) boot knoppix 3) go to a console (with ctrl-alt-fn1) or using the knoppix menu 4) mount the root parition from your HD (mount /dev/hda1 /mnt) ...as in:' mount -v -o,rw /dev/hda1 /mnt '... where hda1 is the location of your root. 5) chroot /mnt ...as in:' chroot /mnt /bin/bash ', or whatever shell you prefer. 6) lilo -v assuming lilo runs it will re-install lilo and when you reboot everything works. ..before playing with more disks, or if you need to scp the disk image or whatever;' mount -v -t proc /proc proc ', but do remember to ' umount -v /proc ', or ugly things happen. 7) just to be safe, also run 'mkboot' this will prompt you for a floppy and will make a 'boot disk' incase lilo doesnt install ok on the HD-Kev Trying the above, I've gone to the console and run e2fsck /dev/hda2, it listed a couple of inodes and then reported everything OK. After that I'm able to mount /dev/hda2 (root) but lilo complains about libc5.so (GLIBC_2.3 not found). -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh-Oh - boot problem
On 3 Jan 2004 , Chris Cothrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Debian system won't boot. Kernel panic after a bunch of attempts to load modules. I think it is because apt-get upgraded my kernel, but I forgot to run lilo. Thanks to Tom and John on lvlug and Arnt and Kevin on debian- user I got the system working. A Mepis boot CD (I had the ISO around from previous experimentations) helped immensely as well. The key seemed to be some kind of filesystem problem as I didn't make progress until I ran fsck from Mepis. I reverted to the 2.4.22 kernel image, removed the 2.4.23 image and then reinstalled it using synaptic. The apt tools do run lilo unless you tell them not to, but even then lilo should have been able to boot the 2.4.22 kernel. Now, on to messing things up with my own kernels :) Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uh-Oh - boot problem
Hi, My sid system won't boot. Kernel panic after a bunch of attempts to load modules. Output is something like: modprobe can't open dependancies file /lib/modules mount: you must specify filesystem type pivot_root: no such file or directory /sbin/init: cannot open /dev/console: no such file attempted to kill init kernel panic I think it is because apt-get upgraded my kernel, but I forgot to run lilo. Would that do it? I've got the Debian Woody install disk and I've tried booting my partitions from that but no luck, I get a kernel panic (but not the long list of module loading attempts). I can boot the install CD and get a console, any pointers on fixing things from here? I think I can mount the partition and then run lilo, right? Trying the above, I've gone to the console and run e2fsck /dev/hda2, it listed a couple of inodes and then reported everything OK. After that I'm able to mount /dev/hda2 (root) but lilo complains about libc5.so (GLIBC_2.3 not found). TIA! Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh-Oh - boot problem
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 05:35:56PM -0800, Chris Cothrun wrote: Hi, My sid system won't boot. Kernel panic after a bunch of attempts to load modules. Output is something like: modprobe can't open dependancies file /lib/modules mount: you must specify filesystem type pivot_root: no such file or directory /sbin/init: cannot open /dev/console: no such file attempted to kill init kernel panic I think it is because apt-get upgraded my kernel, but I forgot to run lilo. Would that do it? I've got the Debian Woody install disk and I've tried booting my partitions from that but no luck, I get a kernel panic (but not the long list of module loading attempts). I can boot the install CD and get a console, any pointers on fixing things from here? I think I can mount the partition and then run lilo, right? Hi Chris, kernels are not deleted automatically. So, if you install another one, it is there still. If you have a GOOD LILO.CONF, the this will work. 1) get Knoppix 2) boot knoppix 3) go to a console (with ctrl-alt-fn1) or using the knoppix menu 4) mount the root parition from your HD (mount /dev/hda1 /mnt) where hda1 is the location of your root. 5) chroot /mnt 6) lilo -v assuming lilo runs it will re-install lilo and when you reboot everything works. 7) just to be safe, also run 'mkboot' this will prompt you for a floppy and will make a 'boot disk' incase lilo doesnt install ok on the HD -Kev Trying the above, I've gone to the console and run e2fsck /dev/hda2, it listed a couple of inodes and then reported everything OK. After that I'm able to mount /dev/hda2 (root) but lilo complains about libc5.so (GLIBC_2.3 not found). TIA! Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Uh-Oh...
Well I grabbed 2.4.2, did a make-kpkg as usual and installed it. But I reboot to find my filesystem pretty well trashed. I'm running Sid and everything is on Reiserfs except for /boot. The only way I can do anything (with any kernel) is to boot to single user. I have tried reiserfsck'ing it, but the end result is the same. I still get errors like this ... US_13050: reiserfs_update_sd: i/o failure occured trying to update [0 0 0x0 SD] Stat datais_tree_node: node level 2 does not match to the expected one 1 etc etc. I was enjoying kde2.1 final and everything was gravy until I booted the new kernel :-(. Anyone have a fix? TIA, jt
Re: Uh-Oh...
John Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I grabbed 2.4.2, did a make-kpkg as usual and installed it. But I reboot to find my filesystem pretty well trashed. I'm running Sid and everything is on Reiserfs except for /boot. The only way I can do anything (with any kernel) is to boot to single user. I have tried reiserfsck'ing it, but the end result is the same. I still get errors like this ... US_13050: reiserfs_update_sd: i/o failure occured trying to update [0 0 0x0 SD] Stat datais_tree_node: node level 2 does not match to the expected one 1 I always enjoy asking people if they have their power cord plugged in... Which version of reiserfstools is installed? Harald
Re: Uh-Oh...
On 28 Feb 2001 13:17:07 +0100, you wrote: I always enjoy asking people if they have their power cord plugged in... Yes, this part I am sure of g. Which version of reiserfstools is installed? It was the most current version in unstable. I did a dpkg -X to manually install the older version from testing and have managed to fix things most of the way. It did require a reiserfsck --rebuild-tree which totally nuked /var but all well. New question re this new problem to follow :-). jt Alternative Computing Solutions... Debian GNU/Linux http://www.debian.org FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org
uh-oh, now what?
New problem, having to do with mail, specifically the following error from fetchmail: client/server sychronization error while fetching from radiant.net. Sendmail is running... i run fetchmail manually, as i like to keep processes down to a dull roar. I've been doing this since i started using Debian, with no problems until tonight. Now, i seem to be getting fetchmail to read the mail, but it doesn't download it, won't flush it in spite of the -F tag. Pinging the mail server at Radiant goes through just fine... Um, ideas anyone? Please? Thx - Alpha
Re: uh-oh, now what?
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:23:09PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New problem, having to do with mail, specifically the following error from fetchmail: client/server sychronization error while fetching from radiant.net. Sendmail is running... i run fetchmail manually, as i like to keep processes down to a dull roar. I've been doing this since i started using Debian, with no problems until tonight. Now, i seem to be getting fetchmail to read the mail, but it doesn't download it, won't flush it in spite of the -F tag. Pinging the mail server at Radiant goes through just fine... Um, ideas anyone? Please? Is the mail marked as read? If so, fetchmail -a should do it. It won't download read mail by default. -v flag should be more informative if that doesn't help. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
Re: uh-oh, now what?
Fetchmail says the mail is read, but it's not flushed. Will try the -a tag. Thanks, Mike. Alpha
Re: Uh oh! I ruined my kernel!
Dear On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 03:57:18PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: Hey, I did a complete system upgrade yesterday (nothing in my computer is the same as it was anymore), so I was recompiling the kernel, and I guess I configured something wrong, cause now my computer won't boot-up. _I'm not concerned about fixing it,_ I just want to start over, but I can't seem to reinstall debian, because when I boot off the 2.1 CD, and I hit 'enter' to boot, it loads the bad kernel image off my hard drive, instead of the one on the CD. I read the help (by pressing F1-F4), and when you are on the prompt boot: from CD-ROM, you should just press ENTER. That brings you into installation menu. You can then press ALT-CTRL-F2 and use the console to repair the system. You could also from that console, simply take the standard kernel from the CD-ROM, by mounting it and installing it with dpkg. Before going to second console, ensure that you have mounted your / filesystem. Sincerely, Marko Cehaja
Uh oh! I ruined my kernel!
Hey, I did a complete system upgrade yesterday (nothing in my computer is the same as it was anymore), so I was recompiling the kernel, and I guess I configured something wrong, cause now my computer won't boot-up. _I'm not concerned about fixing it,_ I just want to start over, but I can't seem to reinstall debian, because when I boot off the 2.1 CD, and I hit 'enter' to boot, it loads the bad kernel image off my hard drive, instead of the one on the CD. I read the help (by pressing F1-F4), and it said something about typing 'default' and then hitting enter, but then it just tells me that their is no kernel image 'default'. Just wondering how I can load the CD's kernel image. Thanks, Cameron Matheson
Re: Uh oh! I ruined my kernel!
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 03:57:18PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: Hey, I did a complete system upgrade yesterday (nothing in my computer is the same as it was anymore), so I was recompiling the kernel, and I guess I configured something wrong, cause now my computer won't boot-up. _I'm not concerned about fixing it,_ I just want to start over, but I can't seem to reinstall debian, because when I boot off the 2.1 CD, and I hit 'enter' to boot, it loads the bad kernel image off my hard drive, instead of the one on the CD. I read the help (by pressing F1-F4), and it said something about typing 'default' and then hitting enter, but then it just tells me that their is no kernel image 'default'. Just wondering how I can load the CD's kernel image. Investigate the boot-prompt HOWTO if you want, or just go ahead and boot rescue. You can switch to the second virtual console, get a shell, and proceed to fix up your system. One standard trick is to mount your hard disk someplace and chroot into it to fix up the system. If you saved your old kernel image, you should be able to just point LILO at it and boot it. It's usually a good idea to leave stanzas for known-good kernels in /etc/lilo.conf. Remember to re-run lilo to commit the changes to your boot record. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpCmJaQDKX53.pgp Description: PGP signature
uh oh, where'd my memory go?
I just upgraded from a PII to an athlon (YEA!) however, my LCD is only reporting 64 of my 512meg. I had 512 before this upgrade, no problem. I also upgraded to 2.2.14. Whats going on here? -Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: uh oh, where'd my memory go?
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Aaron Solochek wrote: aarons I just upgraded from a PII to an athlon (YEA!) however, my LCD is only aarons reporting 64 of my 512meg. I had 512 before this upgrade, no problem. aarons I also upgraded to 2.2.14. Whats going on here? does the system report 64MB or 512? (run 'free') you will need to add: append=mem=512M to lilo.conf if it reports 64MB, some bioses are broken and don't pass the installed memory along in a standard way(my bios worked fine till i flash upgraded it ever since i've had to use the append= ..) nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 3:35pm up 180 days, 3:52, 1 user, load average: 1.30, 1.11, 1.03
Re: cfdisk and fdisk with slink hang writing partition to SCSI disk...uh-oh
I already tried that - Debian still hangs when initialising the partitions (made with RH). I guess I'll have to stick with RedHat, which I'm none too happy about I can tell you. I say bug. Martin From: Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cfdisk and fdisk with slink hang writing partition to SCSI disk...uh-oh Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:48:40 -0800 On 27/10/99 Martin Waller wrote: (I've resorted to installing RH (6.0 or 6.1) which seems to be coping OK (still indstalling...but got through the partition bit and now throwing packages on) hmmm). why didn't you just partition with redhat and then install debian skipping the partition step? all linux on i386 use the same kind of partition table... Best Regards, Ethan Benson To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/ __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
cfdisk and fdisk with slink hang writing partition to SCSI disk...uh-oh
Hi, I've come into an old DEC Prioris HX590DP server which has an aha2940/2940W scsi card, scsi disks a scsi CD and a scsi tape. Installing slink progresses to partiton a hrad disk, but when writing the partition table, cfdisk just sits there saying 'Writing partition table to disk...', and the machine cycles through resetting the disk, tape and CD time and time again. Using fdisk came up with 'Calling IOCTL() tyo re-read partition table' (or something similar) and again just hung. It is annoying that debian can't install/partition the SCSI and that no error messages are generated. What's going on? (I've resorted to installing RH (6.0 or 6.1) which seems to be coping OK (still indstalling...but got through the partition bit and now throwing packages on) hmmm). Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Uh-oh, is it WMaker or my 2.0.33 kernel?
Just had another nasty crash to top off the night (in addition to multiple SVGA server crashes when I move the mouse TOO EARLY after switching from console mode). Everything just fried itself, then I found this in the syslog: May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address e90833c4 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: current-tss.cr3 = 00299000, %cr3 = 00299000 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: *pde = May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: Oops: May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: CPU:0 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: EIP:0010:[add_timer+257/348] May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: EFLAGS: 00010082 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: eax: ebx: 0026332c ecx: 00872f7c edx: 002d May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: esi: 0206 edi: 0026332d ebp: 00872f5c esp: 00872f54 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: Process WindowMaker (pid: 517, process nr: 32, stackpage=00872000) May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: Stack: 00d51810 0026332d 00872f90 001126cb 00872f7c 0026332d 0001 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel:0026332d 01264018 0293bebc 0026332d 00d51810 00112424 00872fb4 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel:00113b47 00d51810 08081a57 0804c0a0 020c5550 541b 004c4b40 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: Call Trace: [schedule+543/652] [process_timeout+0/128] [sys_nanosleep+271/348] [system_call+85/124] May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: Code: 00 89 48 04 89 0c 95 08 e6 19 00 8d 04 95 08 e6 19 00 89 41 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: task not on run-queue Anyone understand what's up? Is it just a problem with the memory management of the 2.0.33 kernel? Maybe I should switch back to 2.0.32, or perhaps the new 2.0 kernel is out and is stable? This sucks. Bash crashed my whole system today too. NOT a good day. And to think, I was actually beginning to yearn for an uptime of over a week (I used to shut my computer off at night, but now I've got the rc5des client running nonstop, so...) ANY HELP APPRECIATED IN THE EXTREME. Thanks -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing A. Kiyan Azarbar its opponents and making them see the light, but Ottawa, Canadarather because its opponents eventually die and a Linux 2.0.32 new generation grows up that is familiar with it. 1024/0x9A9EC5EA 4F3ADBDA1EE5850209DD8BB205250ED2F696A7BE ^- Max Planck pgpFtdZv9Pzcu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Uh-oh, is it WMaker or my 2.0.33 kernel?
Kiyan Azarbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything just fried itself, then I found this in the syslog: May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at = virtual address e90833c4 May 11 03:22:42 palantir kernel: current-tss.cr3 =3D 00299000, %cr3 = 00 299000 [cut] Anyone understand what's up? Is it just a problem with the memory management of the 2.0.33 kernel? Maybe I should switch back to 2.0.32, or perhaps the new 2.0 kernel is out and is stable? This sucks. Bash crashed my whole system today too. NOT a good day. And to think, I was actually beginning to yearn for an uptime of over a week (I used to shut my computer off at night, but now I've got=20 the rc5des client running nonstop, so...) Such errors are ALWAYS bugs in the kernel even if evoked by an application. If these bugs started with updating to 2.0.33 you should go back to the previous kernel. I heard of some problems with the memory management of 2.0.33, fortunately, never had these problems. Torsten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uh oh! After dselect installed the new kernel... the system does not boot...
Hello again, Mmm I would think the installation would have prompt me for that... (it did ask whether to use the lilo.conf configuration file). Anyways I have booted from diskette and ran `lilo`. I still get the 01 01 01 01 01 01 How can I revert back to my old kernel image? Just change the symlinks and rerun lilo??? Thanx. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Uh oh! After dselect installed the new kernel... the system does not boot...
Hi again, Guess what? I used dselect to install a few (well quite a few) packages including the kernel sources and utilities. As it requested me to compile the new 2.0.30 kernel I replied yes. All went ok till I rebooted! Now just as I get to the lilo prompt all I get is 01 01 01 01 for ever and ever, nonstop. I guess I'll have to revert back to the old kernel. I have some idea on how to do that but I would like some expert advise so that I don't damage the system even more ;) I would say that changing the symlinks to point to boot/the old kernel should work... right? Thanx, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Uh oh! After dselect installed the new kernel... the system does not boot...
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