Re: Unable to get X to start on new flat screen monitor using DVI

2012-06-20 Thread James Allsopp
Hi,
That's really odd about the kernel. The computer was working fine on an old
CRT via VGA, and I just plugged my new flat screen in via dvi-d, and you
can see start up, but X doesn't start.

I'm upgrading to the 2.6.32-686 kernel, will that be new enough?
Thanks
James

On 19 June 2012 20:16, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 2012-06-19 01:19 +0200, Brian wrote:

  On Mon 18 Jun 2012 at 23:21:03 +, James Allsopp wrote:
 
  [drm] failed to load kernel module nouveau
  (EE) [drm] failed to open device
 
 http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/TroubleShooting
 
  and also look at what is happening with nouveau in the output of the
  'dmesg' command.

 That question is easy to answer, the nouveau module does not exist
 because James is running an obsolete 2.6.30 kernel.  Upgrading to the
 Squeeze kernel should rectify this.

 Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Unable to get X to start on new flat screen monitor using DVI

2012-06-20 Thread James Allsopp
Brilliant, updated the kernel and everything seems fixed now!

Thanks very much!
James

On 20 June 2012 08:18, James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 That's really odd about the kernel. The computer was working fine on an
 old CRT via VGA, and I just plugged my new flat screen in via dvi-d, and
 you can see start up, but X doesn't start.

 I'm upgrading to the 2.6.32-686 kernel, will that be new enough?
 Thanks
 James


 On 19 June 2012 20:16, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 2012-06-19 01:19 +0200, Brian wrote:

  On Mon 18 Jun 2012 at 23:21:03 +, James Allsopp wrote:
 
  [drm] failed to load kernel module nouveau
  (EE) [drm] failed to open device
 
 http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/TroubleShooting
 
  and also look at what is happening with nouveau in the output of the
  'dmesg' command.

 That question is easy to answer, the nouveau module does not exist
 because James is running an obsolete 2.6.30 kernel.  Upgrading to the
 Squeeze kernel should rectify this.

 Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Unable to get X to start on new flat screen monitor using DVI

2012-06-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-06-19 01:19 +0200, Brian wrote:

 On Mon 18 Jun 2012 at 23:21:03 +, James Allsopp wrote:

 [drm] failed to load kernel module nouveau
 (EE) [drm] failed to open device

http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/TroubleShooting

 and also look at what is happening with nouveau in the output of the
 'dmesg' command.

That question is easy to answer, the nouveau module does not exist
because James is running an obsolete 2.6.30 kernel.  Upgrading to the
Squeeze kernel should rectify this.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Unable to get X to start on new flat screen monitor using DVI

2012-06-18 Thread James Allsopp

Hi,
I wrote this as an xorg.conf, but the problem still remains,

Section Screen
Identifier Default Screen
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection Display
   Depth 16
   Modes 1280x1024
EndSubSection
EndSection

xrandr says there are no displays though.

My Xorg.0.log is now as written at the bottom of this message.

Thanks for any help you can offer,
James
X.Org X Server 1.7.7
Release Date: 2010-05-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 i686 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux mexican 2.6.30-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Dec 4 
00:53:20 UTC 2009 i686

Kernel command line: root=UUID=b6f5a669-9108-411f-813d-b59e9a36a80a ro
Build Date: 30 October 2011  08:56:49PM
xorg-server 2:1.7.7-14 (Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org)
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Jun 18 23:05:19 2012
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
(==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
(**) |--Screen Default Screen (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
(==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen.
Using a default monitor configuration.
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,
built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
(II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable 
AutoAddDevices.
(II) Loader magic: 0x81ecce0
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(++) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0322:: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce 
FX 5200] rev 161, Mem @ 0xec00/16777216, 0xe000/134217728, BIOS 
@ 0x/131072

(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) LoadModule: extmod
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: dbe
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: glx
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: record
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: dri
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: dri2
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 0
(==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 1
(==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 2
(==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
(==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
(II) LoadModule: nouveau
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
(II) 

Re: Unable to get X to start on new flat screen monitor using DVI

2012-06-18 Thread Brian
On Mon 18 Jun 2012 at 23:21:03 +, James Allsopp wrote:

 I wrote this as an xorg.conf, but the problem still remains,

 Section Screen
   Identifier Default Screen
   DefaultDepth 16
   SubSection Display
  Depth 16
  Modes 1280x1024
   EndSubSection
 EndSection

This wasn't the best of advice to offer given the contents of Xorg.0.log.

 xrandr says there are no displays though.

X needs to be running to have an xrandr output. Again, not a useful
suggestion to give you.

 My Xorg.0.log is now as written at the bottom of this message.

[Snip]

 [drm] failed to load kernel module nouveau
 (EE) [drm] failed to open device

   http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/TroubleShooting

and also look at what is happening with nouveau in the output of the
'dmesg' command.


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Re: Unable to get X to start on new flat screen monitor using DVI

2012-06-18 Thread Marty

(II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC read failed


Are you missing an I2C driver?

Also, just WAG but maybe 1280X720 will work anyway.


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Unable to get X to start on new flat screen monitor using DVI

2012-06-17 Thread James Allsopp

Hi,
Got one of my old PC's lying around and I'm trying to get it to work 
with my nice new LG  IPS225V flatscreen. It used to work fine with my 
CRT over VGA but although I can get a console up, I can't get X to 
start. I've listed the Xorg log out at the bottom of the e-mail


I think it could be that the monitor is refusing anything other than 
1900x1080 at 60Hz over which DVI, which my hardware hasn't a hope of 
driving. There doesn't appear to be any way of turning this down on the 
monitor.


To get some idea of the hardware, this is the lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host 
bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP 
bridge (rev 03)

00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880B [AudioPCI] (rev 02)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 
5200] (rev a1)


Thanks for any help,
James



X.Org X Server 1.7.7
Release Date: 2010-05-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 i686 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux mexican 2.6.30-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Dec 4 
00:53:20 UTC 2009 i686

Kernel command line: root=UUID=b6f5a669-9108-411f-813d-b59e9a36a80a ro
Build Date: 30 October 2011  08:56:49PM
xorg-server 2:1.7.7-14 (Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org)
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sun Jun 17 22:13:40 2012
(==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
(==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
(==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
(**) |--Screen Default Screen Section (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
(==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen Section.
Using a default monitor configuration.
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,
built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
(II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable 
AutoAddDevices.
(II) Loader magic: 0x81ecce0
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(++) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0322:: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce 
FX 5200] rev 161, Mem @ 0xec00/16777216, 0xe000/134217728, BIOS 
@ 0x/131072

(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) LoadModule: extmod
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: dbe
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: glx
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: record
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0

Re: Unable to get X to start on new flat screen monitor using DVI

2012-06-17 Thread Brian
On Sun 17 Jun 2012 at 22:29:04 +, James Allsopp wrote:

 Hi,
 Got one of my old PC's lying around and I'm trying to get it to work  
 with my nice new LG  IPS225V flatscreen. It used to work fine with my  
 CRT over VGA but although I can get a console up, I can't get X to  
 start. I've listed the Xorg log out at the bottom of the e-mail

 I think it could be that the monitor is refusing anything other than  
 1900x1080 at 60Hz over which DVI, which my hardware hasn't a hope of  
 driving. There doesn't appear to be any way of turning this down on the  
 monitor.

 To get some idea of the hardware, this is the lspci

[Most of lspci ouput, apart from one line, snipped]

 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX  
 5200] (rev a1)

You'll like this! On one of my machines:

   brian@dektop3:~$ lspci | grep VGA
   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] 
(rev a1)

You can compare mine with yours:

   brian@dektop3:~$ xrandr
   Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 4096 x 4096
   VGA-1 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm 
x 0mm
  1280x1024  63.2*+
  1024x768   60.0  
  800x60060.3 56.2  
  848x48060.0  
  640x48059.9  
   VGA-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
   TV-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

If I was in your situation and was after 1280x1024 I'd put this in
an /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

   Section Screen
   IdentifierDefault Screen
   DefaultDepth   16
   SubSection Display
   Depth  16
   Modes 1280x1024
   EndSubSection
   EndSection


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