Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
2011/2/5 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:57:39 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 05 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote: (...) Does disabling KMS make any effect? Actually, I'd try to make sure KMS is enabled, instead :) I would expect KMS is enabled by default with the radeon driver (so I asked for the X log, just to be sure). If KMS has been automatically disabled, that's another error to look for. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.05.20.15...@gmail.com
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
Sorry, wrong send... 2011/2/5 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org On Sat, 05 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:30:10 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: Fresh installation of squeeze here, machine AMD Athlon II x2, board Asus M4A78LT-M LE with integrated Radeon 3000. I sure hope the discrete Radeon 3000 is supported by KMS (should be, it is supposed to be a r600). It is not a discrete radeon, her's the lspci: $ lspci | grep -i vga 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 760G [Radeon 3000] Does disabling KMS make any effect? Actually, I'd try to make sure KMS is enabled, instead :) KMS is reported to be not supported from drm: $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep KMS (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported and: $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)' (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols. I attach my Xorg.log: it seems 3d not working (glxgears/info crash per segmentation fault) Note: you need either the Debian or Ubuntu patched kernels, or you need the latest longterm 2.6.35 patch level, or the latest stable patchlevel for 2.6.36. Anything else is likely to simply not work (e.g. latest longterm 2.6.32 doesn't work). $ uname -srm Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Yea! Squeeze is stuck with 2.6.32...patched sup., as per standard distribution's kernel? $ lsmod | grep radeon radeon573996 0 ttm39986 1 radeon drm_kms_helper 20065 1 radeon drm 142359 3 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper i2c_algo_bit4225 1 radeon i2c_core 15712 14 radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,tda1004x,saa7134_dvb,tda827x,tda8290,tuner,saa7134,i2c_piix4,v4l2_common,videodev,tveeprom Some problems in my configuration? No xorg.conf neither xorg.conf.d (Version: 1:7.5+8) Any hints? thanks -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110205185739.ga26...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
2011/2/6 Pier Paolo pierpaolo.fra...@gmail.com Sorry 2, wrong send 2... missing attachment 2011/2/6 Pier Paolo pierpaolo.fra...@gmail.com Sorry, wrong send... 2011/2/5 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org On Sat, 05 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:30:10 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: Fresh installation of squeeze here, machine AMD Athlon II x2, board Asus M4A78LT-M LE with integrated Radeon 3000. I sure hope the discrete Radeon 3000 is supported by KMS (should be, it is supposed to be a r600). It is not a discrete radeon, her's the lspci: $ lspci | grep -i vga 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 760G [Radeon 3000] Does disabling KMS make any effect? Actually, I'd try to make sure KMS is enabled, instead :) KMS is reported to be not supported from drm: $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep KMS (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported and: $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)' (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols. I attach my Xorg.log: it seems 3d not working (glxgears/info crash per segmentation fault) Note: you need either the Debian or Ubuntu patched kernels, or you need the latest longterm 2.6.35 patch level, or the latest stable patchlevel for 2.6.36. Anything else is likely to simply not work (e.g. latest longterm 2.6.32 doesn't work). $ uname -srm Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Yea! Squeeze is stuck with 2.6.32...patched sup., as per standard distribution's kernel? $ lsmod | grep radeon radeon573996 0 ttm39986 1 radeon drm_kms_helper 20065 1 radeon drm 142359 3 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper i2c_algo_bit4225 1 radeon i2c_core 15712 14 radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,tda1004x,saa7134_dvb,tda827x,tda8290,tuner,saa7134,i2c_piix4,v4l2_common,videodev,tveeprom Some problems in my configuration? No xorg.conf neither xorg.conf.d (Version: 1:7.5+8) Any hints? thanks -- That's the problem, i think... Custom kernel! :D $ cat /boot/config-2.6.32-5-amd64 | grep KMS CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m # CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set ...Correct me, if i'm wrong, please. Pier Paolo.
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
Pier Paolo wrote: 2011/2/6 Pier Paolo pierpaolo.fra...@gmail.com mailto:pierpaolo.fra...@gmail.com Sorry 2, wrong send 2... missing attachment 2011/2/6 Pier Paolo pierpaolo.fra...@gmail.com mailto:pierpaolo.fra...@gmail.com Sorry, wrong send... 2011/2/5 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org mailto:h...@debian.org On Sat, 05 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:30:10 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: Fresh installation of squeeze here, machine AMD Athlon II x2, board Asus M4A78LT-M LE with integrated Radeon 3000. I sure hope the discrete Radeon 3000 is supported by KMS (should be, it is supposed to be a r600). It is not a discrete radeon, her's the lspci: $ lspci | grep -i vga 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 760G [Radeon 3000] Does disabling KMS make any effect? Actually, I'd try to make sure KMS is enabled, instead :) KMS is reported to be not supported from drm:  $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep KMS (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported and: $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)'        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols. I attach my Xorg.log: it seems 3d not working (glxgears/info crash per segmentation fault) Note: you need either the Debian or Ubuntu patched kernels, or you need the latest longterm 2.6.35 patch level, or the latest stable patchlevel for 2.6.36.  Anything else is likely to simply not work (e.g. latest longterm 2.6.32 doesn't work).  $ uname -srm Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Yea! Squeeze is stuck with 2.6.32...patched sup., as per standard distribution's kernel? $ lsmod | grep radeon radeon               573996 0 ttm                   39986 1 radeon drm_kms_helper        20065 1 radeon drm                  142359 3 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper i2c_algo_bit           4225 1 radeon i2c_core              15712 14 radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,tda1004x,saa7134_dvb,tda827x,tda8290,tuner,saa7134,i2c_piix4,v4l2_common,videodev,tveeprom Some problems in my configuration? No xorg.conf neither xorg.conf.d (Version: 1:7.5+8) Any hints? thanks --  That's the problem, i think... Custom kernel! :D $ cat /boot/config-2.6.32-5-amd64 | grep KMS CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m # CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set ...Correct me, if i'm wrong, please. Pier Paolo. If you want an easy why to manage your x system for Debian, take a look at this page: http://smxi.org/docs/smxi-manual.htm I've been using it for ever 3 years, smxi will manage your x driver install, repos, updates and the kernel, while sgfxi is even simpler and will just manage x driver install only, ether way it's easy, it will pick the best driver for your system and install it for you and makes using Debian easy. -- Jimmy Johnson Custom OS - AMD64 - KDE 4.5.3 - EXT4 at sda7 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d4f196c.3090...@gmail.com
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
On Sun, 06 Feb 2011, Pier Paolo wrote: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Yea! Squeeze is stuck with 2.6.32...patched sup., as per standard distribution's kernel? As in what Debian is shipping, so yes, standard distro kernel. You can build a custom kernel using the distro kernel sources if you want, but... CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m # CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set THIS is not going to give you a well-behaved X.org when using the radeon video driver IME. Try the Debian standard kernel binary images. That will tell you whether KMS being disabled is the problem in your case. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110207014311.gb21...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
2011/2/7 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org On Sun, 06 Feb 2011, Pier Paolo wrote: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Yea! Squeeze is stuck with 2.6.32...patched sup., as per standard distribution's kernel? As in what Debian is shipping, so yes, standard distro kernel. You can build a custom kernel using the distro kernel sources if you want, but... CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m # CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set THIS is not going to give you a well-behaved X.org when using the radeon video driver IME. Try the Debian standard kernel binary images. That will tell you whether KMS being disabled is the problem in your case. Hi, I had a very similar problem with a radeon X1550 (I couldn't switch between users using X). I solved removing fglrx-* related packages. regards raffaele
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:30:10 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: Fresh installation of squeeze here, machine AMD Athlon II x2, board Asus M4A78LT-M LE with integrated Radeon 3000. The problem is: 1) startx on openbox - Switching between consoles (CTRL+ALT+Fn) make appear a blank screen, - returning to X works (ALT+F7) 2) exit from openbox - X closes, but the screen keep blank (black...), for every console (ALT+Fn doesn't work)! So what??? Please, a mediacenter/server is unusable without VTs... This problem arise with standard Xorg installation (xorg-video-ati) and radeon driver, and now with fglrx drivers Does disabling KMS make any effect? I would also look at xorg's log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) for any clue. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.05.17.29...@gmail.com
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
2011/2/5 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:30:10 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: Fresh installation of squeeze here, machine AMD Athlon II x2, board Asus M4A78LT-M LE with integrated Radeon 3000. The problem is: 1) startx on openbox - Switching between consoles (CTRL+ALT+Fn) make appear a blank screen, - returning to X works (ALT+F7) 2) exit from openbox - X closes, but the screen keep blank (black...), for every console (ALT+Fn doesn't work)! So what??? Please, a mediacenter/server is unusable without VTs... This problem arise with standard Xorg installation (xorg-video-ati) and radeon driver, and now with fglrx drivers Does disabling KMS make any effect? Sorry, a bit new to ATI/AMD stuff (i owned a beloved AthlonXP+Radeon-very-old and radeon drv): how to disable KMS? I would also look at xorg's log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) for any clue. Yep... I can attach the Xorg log as it is now: radeon drv and seems ok, but i feel it very poor on 3D (at less with xbmc, however throwed away); I will reinstall frglx and tell you, actually with radeon i can switch between consoles, and that's what i want ...finding my way on mythtv... so not too much time to reproduce this bug, tomorrow i'll be ok to post the xorg log; Thanks very much. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.05.17.29...@gmail.com
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:03:10 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: 2011/2/5 Camaleón (...) This problem arise with standard Xorg installation (xorg-video-ati) and radeon driver, and now with fglrx drivers Does disabling KMS make any effect? Sorry, a bit new to ATI/AMD stuff (i owned a beloved AthlonXP+Radeon-very-old and radeon drv): how to disable KMS? While using radeon driver, you can append to kernel line the nomodeset parameter at GRUB boot menu. It is documented here: http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#DisablingKMS I would also look at xorg's log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) for any clue. Yep... I can attach the Xorg log as it is now: radeon drv and seems ok, but i feel it very poor on 3D (at less with xbmc, however throwed away); I will reinstall frglx and tell you, actually with radeon i can switch between consoles, and that's what i want ...finding my way on mythtv... so not too much time to reproduce this bug, tomorrow i'll be ok to post the xorg log; Thanks very much. Okay, just remember that closed drivers are not eligible for bug reports ;-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.05.18.52...@gmail.com
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:30:10 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: Fresh installation of squeeze here, machine AMD Athlon II x2, board Asus M4A78LT-M LE with integrated Radeon 3000. I sure hope the discrete Radeon 3000 is supported by KMS (should be, it is supposed to be a r600). The problem is: 1) startx on openbox - Switching between consoles (CTRL+ALT+Fn) make appear a blank screen, - returning to X works (ALT+F7) 2) exit from openbox - X closes, but the screen keep blank (black...), for every console (ALT+Fn doesn't work)! Because that's exactly what happens in a Radeon X300 (which _is_ supported) if you do _NOT_ enable KMS. Squeeze, on Radeon GPUs, is basically unusable right now unless you have KMS working _or_ you never suspend, hibernate or try to switch back to a text console. Does disabling KMS make any effect? Actually, I'd try to make sure KMS is enabled, instead :) Note: you need either the Debian or Ubuntu patched kernels, or you need the latest longterm 2.6.35 patch level, or the latest stable patchlevel for 2.6.36. Anything else is likely to simply not work (e.g. latest longterm 2.6.32 doesn't work). -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110205185739.ga26...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:57:39 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 05 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote: (...) Does disabling KMS make any effect? Actually, I'd try to make sure KMS is enabled, instead :) I would expect KMS is enabled by default with the radeon driver (so I asked for the X log, just to be sure). If KMS has been automatically disabled, that's another error to look for. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.05.20.15...@gmail.com
Unusable Squeeze: Can't switch off from X to consoles, neither between
Fresh installation of squeeze here, machine AMD Athlon II x2, board Asus M4A78LT-M LE with integrated Radeon 3000. The problem is: 1) startx on openbox - Switching between consoles (CTRL+ALT+Fn) make appear a blank screen, - returning to X works (ALT+F7) 2) exit from openbox - X closes, but the screen keep blank (black...), for every console (ALT+Fn doesn't work)! So what??? Please, a mediacenter/server is unusable without VTs... This problem arise with standard Xorg installation (xorg-video-ati) and radeon driver, and now with fglrx drivers Thank you, Pier Paolo.
