Re: Update of kde-window-manager wants to remove kde-standard

2013-11-10 Thread Rainer Dorsch
On Monday 11 November 2013 00:11:57 Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 03:04:02PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I think that will get eventually resolved, but I am just curious how I can
> > find the root cause of this upgrade issue.
> 
> Hmmm.. root cause seems to be aptitude package dependency resolver.
> This is so typical ...  I like aptitude but I do not like this
> happening.
> 
> >  plasma-dataengines-workspace : Depends: libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.2-3)
> >  but> 
> > 4:4.11.3-1 is to be installed.
> > 
> > there is certainly plasma-dataengines-workspace Version: 4:4.11.3-1, which
> > depends on libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.3-1)
> > 
> > so why is aptitude complaining about this?
> 
> 
> There may be some packages which want 4:4.11.2-3 version.
> 
> This is the new updated text from my "Debian Refrence":
> 
>   The package dependency resolver of the aptitude command tends to
>   suggests mass package removals when packages in unstable is temporary
>   inconsistent. This situation is a bit frightening. Usually, "apt-get
>   dist-upgrade" should resolve this situation. This situation seems to be
>   caused mostly by the version skew among packages depended or recommended
>   by a meta-package such as gnome-core.
> 
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt
> _get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal
>

Hmmapt-get dist-upgrade gets to the same conclusion:

blackbox:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and 
are no longer required:
  libkwineffects1abi5 libkwinglutils1abi2
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  kde-full kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-standard kde-window-
manager kde-workspace libsmokekdeui4-3 libsmokekfile3 libsmokekhtml3 
libsmokekio3
  libsmokeknewstuff2-3 libsmokeknewstuff3-3 libsmokekparts3 
libsmokektexteditor3 
libsmokekutils3 libsmokeplasma3 plasma-scriptengine-ruby
  plasma-scriptengines ruby-kde4 ruby-plasma
The following packages have been kept back:
  icedove kdeartwork kscreensaver libavcodec53 libkdecorations4abi2 
libsmokekdecore4-3 libsmokenepomuk3 libsmokesolid3
The following packages will be upgraded:
  kde-style-oxygen kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-
plugins kdm ksysguard ksysguardd libkephal4abi1 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4
  libksignalplotter4 libkwineffects1abi5 libkwinglutils1abi2 libkworkspace4abi2 
libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasmaclock4abi4 libplasmagenericshell4
  libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libtaskmanager4abi4 libweather-ion6 
plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-netbook
  plasma-widgets-workspace
25 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 20 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/12.9 MB of archives.
After this operation, 19.3 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 

Rainer
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Re: Update of kde-window-manager wants to remove kde-standard

2013-11-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,


On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 03:04:02PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I think that will get eventually resolved, but I am just curious how I can 
> find 
> the root cause of this upgrade issue.

Hmmm.. root cause seems to be aptitude package dependency resolver.
This is so typical ...  I like aptitude but I do not like this
happening.
 

>  plasma-dataengines-workspace : Depends: libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.2-3) 
> but 
> 4:4.11.3-1 is to be installed.
> 
> there is certainly plasma-dataengines-workspace Version: 4:4.11.3-1, which 
> depends on libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.3-1)
> 
> so why is aptitude complaining about this?

There may be some packages which want 4:4.11.2-3 version.

This is the new updated text from my "Debian Refrence":

  The package dependency resolver of the aptitude command tends to
  suggests mass package removals when packages in unstable is temporary
  inconsistent. This situation is a bit frightening. Usually, "apt-get
  dist-upgrade" should resolve this situation. This situation seems to be
  caused mostly by the version skew among packages depended or recommended
  by a meta-package such as gnome-core.

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal

Good luck,

Osamu


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Update of kde-window-manager wants to remove kde-standard

2013-11-10 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi,

I think that will get eventually resolved, but I am just curious how I can find 
the root cause of this upgrade issue.

E.g. for 

 plasma-dataengines-workspace : Depends: libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.2-3) but 
4:4.11.3-1 is to be installed.

there is certainly plasma-dataengines-workspace Version: 4:4.11.3-1, which 
depends on libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.3-1)

so why is aptitude complaining about this?


blackbox:~# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  icedove kde-style-oxygen kde-window-manager kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-
data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdeartwork kdm kscreensaver ksysguard
  ksysguardd libavcodec53 libkdecorations4abi2 libkephal4abi1 libkscreensaver5 
libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libkwineffects1abi5 libkwinglutils1abi2
  libkworkspace4abi2 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasmaclock4abi4 
libplasmagenericshell4 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libsmokekdecore4-3
  libsmokekdeui4-3 libsmokekfile3 libsmokekhtml3 libsmokekio3 
libsmokeknewstuff2-3 libsmokeknewstuff3-3 libsmokekparts3 libsmokektexteditor3
  libsmokekutils3 libsmokenepomuk3 libsmokeplasma3 libsmokesolid3 
libtaskmanager4abi4 libweather-ion6 plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-
desktop
  plasma-netbook plasma-widgets-workspace ruby-kde4 ruby-plasma
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 46 not upgraded.
blackbox:~# aptitude install -t sid kde-window-manager 
The following packages will be upgraded: 
  kde-style-oxygen kde-window-manager libkdecorations4abi2{b} 
libkwineffects1abi5 libkwinglutils1abi2 libkworkspace4abi2 
6 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 553 not upgraded.
Need to get 3615 kB/4236 kB of archives. After unpacking 1024 B will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 plasma-desktop : Depends: libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.2-3) but 4:4.11.3-1 is 
to be installed.
 plasma-dataengines-workspace : Depends: libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.2-3) but 
4:4.11.3-1 is to be installed.
 kde-workspace-bin : Depends: kde-style-oxygen (= 4:4.11.2-3) but 4:4.11.3-1 
is to be installed.
 Depends: libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.2-3) but 4:4.11.3-1 
is to be installed.
 libplasmagenericshell4 : Depends: libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.2-3) but 
4:4.11.3-1 is to be installed.
 libkdecorations4abi2 : Breaks: libkdecorations4abi1 but 4:4.10.5-3 is 
installed.
 kdm : Depends: libkworkspace4abi2 (= 4:4.11.2-3) but 4:4.11.3-1 is to be 
installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

  Remove the following packages:
  
1)  libkdecorations4abi1
  

  Upgrade the following packages:   
  
2)  kde-workspace-bin [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)]   
3)  kde-workspace-data [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)]  
4)  kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 
4:4.11.3-1 (unstable)]
5)  kdm [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 (unstable)]   
  
6)  ksysguard [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 (unstable)] 
  
7)  ksysguardd [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 (unstable)]
  
8)  libkephal4abi1 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)]  
9)  libkscreensaver5 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)]
10) libksgrd4 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 (unstable)] 
  
11) libksignalplotter4 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)]  
12) libplasma-geolocation-interface4 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 
4:4.11.3-1 (unstable)]
13) libplasmaclock4abi4 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)] 
14) libplasmagenericshell4 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)]  
15) libprocesscore4abi1 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)] 
16) libprocessui4a [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)]  
17) libtaskmanager4abi4 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)] 
18) libweather-ion6 [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)] 
19) plasma-dataengines-workspace [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 
4:4.11.3-1 (unstable)]
20) plasma-desktop [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)]  
21) plasma-netbook [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstable)]  
22) plasma-widgets-workspace [4:4.11.2-3 (experimental, now) -> 4:4.11.3-1 
(unstabl