Re: Updating not working as expected
On Monday 10 February 2014 01:25:10 Jon N wrote: Well, the choice of jessie or testing doesn't seem to explain the trouble I was experiencing with the lack of updates. No, I was answering darkestkhan, not you. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201402101258.09903.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Updating not working as expected
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jon N jdnandr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I installed Jessie on a new computer about 2 months ago. I needed Jessie to support my network interface. Since then I noticed that I seeing almost no updates in Synaptic, or when using apt-get. During the same period on my old computer (also running Jessie) see packages almost constantly updating. Jessie? TBOMK it is still not released. I did look at a few things on both systems previously and didn't see anything I could recognize as causing the difference. Today however I opened the preferences in Synaptic and changed the preferred distribution from 'Always prefer highest' to 'Prefer versions from Testing'. Low and behold I now have a very large number of updates waiting. But, I don't think I should have to make that change to get normal updates. I'm thinking this has something to do with the repositories, which are different between the 2 computers. Here is my repositories list: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates non-free contrib main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates non-free contrib main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates non-free contrib main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ jessie main non-free deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian/ jessie main # deb http://linux.dropbox.com/debian/ wheezy main My guess is the behavior I'm seeing is related to either the 'jessie-backports' or 'jessie-updates' repositories, but I don't know why I ended up with them or why I would (or would not) want them. Should I just change them to 'jessie'? Personally I'm dubious if using `jessie` instead of `testing` atm should even work - considering that it is basically testing for the time being. -- darkestkhan -- Feel free to CC me. jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cacrpbmg9d2ashenl_1kz-spdxjqv2hpk16-mnbqs-u55uhd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Updating not working as expected
On Du, 09 feb 14, 18:05:52, darkestkhan wrote: Personally I'm dubious if using `jessie` instead of `testing` atm should even work - considering that it is basically testing for the time being. Of course it works. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Updating not working as expected
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM, darkestkhan darkestk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jon N jdnandr...@gmail.com wrote: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates non-free contrib main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates non-free contrib main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates non-free contrib main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ jessie main non-free deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian/ jessie main # deb http://linux.dropbox.com/debian/ wheezy main Personally I'm dubious if using `jessie` instead of `testing` atm should even work - considering that it is basically testing for the time being. Oh, look, there's jessie! ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/ And the first few lines of the jessie Release file: Origin: Debian Label: Debian Suite: testing Codename: jessie Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:50:33 UTC Valid-Until: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:50:33 UTC Architectures: amd64 armel armhf i386 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc Components: main contrib non-free Description: Debian x.y Testing distribution - Not Released -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=szoo6_8szpihkz+mym5nqdhup7a6argjthfuzekvo7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Updating not working as expected
On Sunday 09 February 2014 18:05:52 darkestkhan wrote: Personally I'm dubious if using `jessie` instead of `testing` atm should even work - considering that it is basically testing for the time being. The beauty of using the name, Jessie, instead of Testing is that when Jessie becomes Stable, the system will automatically upgrade to Stable. As soon as Jessie is Stable, the floodgates in Testing will open and all the new packages will just rush in. By staying with the name Jessie, you can chose your moment to go back to Testing. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201402092257.11400.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Updating not working as expected
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 09 February 2014 18:05:52 darkestkhan wrote: Personally I'm dubious if using `jessie` instead of `testing` atm should even work - considering that it is basically testing for the time being. The beauty of using the name, Jessie, instead of Testing is that when Jessie becomes Stable, the system will automatically upgrade to Stable. As soon as Jessie is Stable, the floodgates in Testing will open and all the new packages will just rush in. By staying with the name Jessie, you can chose your moment to go back to Testing. Well, the choice of jessie or testing doesn't seem to explain the trouble I was experiencing with the lack of updates. Does anyone have an idea of why I have to choose 'always prefer testing' rather that 'always prefer latest' in Synaptic preferences to get updates? I am also in testing on my old computer and do not need to do this. I guess if it works it works, so why worry. It just makes me curious what's making it do this. BTW, I also use jessie in the sources.list on the old computer for all the debian.org repositories. Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CANcvmg0100+_=m+xswrjnbkadehpsmqru-e93czzkv6n5fn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Updating not working as expected
Use apt-cache policy to see what are your repositories' priorities, and than adjust them in /etc/apt/preferences. That synaptic option probably changes Default-Release in apt.conf[.d/], but, I don't recommend it because I think it's simpler to specify everyting in /etc/apt/preferences. -- http://markorandjelovic.hopto.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140210051637.133ed...@eunet.rs
Updating not working as expected
Hi, I installed Jessie on a new computer about 2 months ago. I needed Jessie to support my network interface. Since then I noticed that I seeing almost no updates in Synaptic, or when using apt-get. During the same period on my old computer (also running Jessie) see packages almost constantly updating. I did look at a few things on both systems previously and didn't see anything I could recognize as causing the difference. Today however I opened the preferences in Synaptic and changed the preferred distribution from 'Always prefer highest' to 'Prefer versions from Testing'. Low and behold I now have a very large number of updates waiting. But, I don't think I should have to make that change to get normal updates. I'm thinking this has something to do with the repositories, which are different between the 2 computers. Here is my repositories list: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates non-free contrib main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates non-free contrib main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates non-free contrib main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ jessie main non-free deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian/ jessie main # deb http://linux.dropbox.com/debian/ wheezy main My guess is the behavior I'm seeing is related to either the 'jessie-backports' or 'jessie-updates' repositories, but I don't know why I ended up with them or why I would (or would not) want them. Should I just change them to 'jessie'? Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CANcvmg3o_3JwQfswfrRmqyGuW_B+_Wewfn7CF=5m2gpb13g...@mail.gmail.com
